watcha'say let's have our own festival

Subject: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Lowcountry
Date: 11 May 99 - 10:21 AM

Watcha'say let's find our where some of the Mudcatters are concentrated geographically and throw our own music festival? It might not have to be too organized: just get a big hotel to agree to hold rooms for a while, and that playing and singing will be allowed in lobby, in lounges, in guestrooms and on the grounds--at all reasonable times of day and night.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: WyoWoman
Date: 11 May 99 - 10:42 AM

I'm game. Finding the "geographically concentrated" part might be a challenge...

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Margo
Date: 11 May 99 - 11:11 AM

It seems that we are all over the world. If you're talking just the US it would seem the midwest would be a fair meeting place. But Someone coming from Oz would appreciate us havong it on the west coast. Someone in UK might appreciate it being on the east coast.

How about Hawaii?

Margarita

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 May 99 - 11:23 AM

don't forget MUDSTOCK 99! I know it's not central for a lot of phoaks, but it's kinda whatcher talking about, at least for this year.

katlauhgin

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: folk1234
Date: 11 May 99 - 11:39 AM

Great idea Lowcountry! Name a time and place, I'll be there. NOT a hotel, though. I, for one, refuse to limit my singing to 'reasonable times and places'. I must sing when the time and spirit moves me.

We need trees, birds, flowers, water, and sky. With creeping sunrises (that few of us will actually see) and long lingering fire-to-purple sunsets. Black velvet night sky with peek-a-boo stars winking in three-quarter time as we sing and play around a smoldering fire. Camp?, perhaps for some; but I'd rather like the comfort of a cabin.

It has to be at least two days to make the trip worthwhile. I'm assuming, of course, it will be far from Ada, OK, although we have all the ambiance prerequisites. Perhaps those of us from afar, can stop enroute to make new mudcat friends; then journey on together to the next new-friend point; finally arriving en-mase at our oasis of song.

On the practical side, MUDSTOCK 99 (see previous thread) may have to be our festival of choice for this year. Nevertheless, I'm willing to add another venue.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Sean MacRuaraidh (inactive)
Date: 11 May 99 - 01:25 PM

Someone from the UK would appreciate having it in the UK not on the East Coast of the US.

I don't see why, given the relatively small size of the UK that some central place near a large city e.g. Manchester/Birmingham/London/Cardiff/Newcastle/Glasgow, that was already holding a folk festival, couldn't act a get together point for UK MudCatters.

I've been to places in Scotland ( Newcastleton ) and the North of England (Rothbury) where the whole town is given over to music for a few days so being able to play wouldn't be a problem - same is true on West Coast of Ireland during festivals.

In Newcastle there's the annual Fish Festival festival at North Shields/TyneMouth

Didn't someone say in an old thread on the same subject that they had a URL for all the UK festivals ?

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 May 99 - 02:06 PM

BLUE CLICKY FESTIVAL THINGY

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 11 May 99 - 02:13 PM

Those of you on the Eastern Seaboard of the United States are invited to come to the Getaway sponsored by the Folklore Society of Greater Washington. It'll be the second weekend of October this year (Columbus Day weekend in the U.S.; Thanksgiving weekend in Canada). It'll PROBABLY be at Prince William Forest National Park just south (about 25 miles) of Washington, D.C., but the location is still tentative, so check the webpage at www.fsgw.org/getaway to keep up with the latest planning information about it.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 11 May 99 - 05:28 PM

We could have it at my house. I know people don't really think of NJ as a great spot, but boy, are they wrong.

Folk1234, I have creeping sunset, spectacular sunrises, trees, birds, flowers, water, and sky. I live right on a river, and half a block from a beautiful beach Our town is music oriented and there is always a large response to party.

Plenty of places to flop in my house.

...or, am I being presumptous. I don't mean to be. I just love my house. Actually, I'm only renting, because the owner won't sell. I plan to die here.

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 11 May 99 - 06:21 PM

I have plans to attend the DC Getaway. I went last year and met my first Mudcatters. There was a rumor that Max might try to make it this year. Any word any body? It was a good time and I went in knowing absolutely no one. I told folks on the Mudcat I was going and I wore my Mudcat T-shirt. Dick came right up and said, "Hi, Roger". He figured me out right away.

So, all you East Coasters and others who can't get to Mudstock, come on over!!

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: folk1234
Date: 11 May 99 - 06:27 PM

The Shambles: What lovely names. Why can't we be as creative in naming our fests? Names like, "Jig & Swig", "Giving Voice", "Folk under Libra", and "Folk on the Pier" just make me want to go. annap: Thanks, sounds inviting. A real house? Gee whiz, my highest expectations were just a cabin.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Susan of DT
Date: 11 May 99 - 07:11 PM

Anna - I think New Jersey is wonderfully central to lots of folks, but then I live in central Jersey. But seriously, no location would get everyone, but the washington/maryland/pennsylvannia people could get there and so could the connecticut/massachusetts/new york people, so give it a try. Where are you Anna? You can answer on member email to keep it private if you wish.

How many people would be interested in a New Jersey gathering at Anna's house?

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: WyoWoman
Date: 11 May 99 - 11:17 PM

Given enough notice, I could make either New Jersey or Scotland (if I had a place to flop).

Or you could all sign on for a REALLY big challenge and come see me here in Wild, Wonderful Wyoming! Lord knows it's big enough...

And, we yodel...well, some of us.

kc

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 May 99 - 12:42 AM

KC!!!Where in Wyoming!!! I've been on here since January and NEVER run into another Mudder in WYO!!!

katlauhging in casper

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 12 May 99 - 03:20 AM

Charlie, that holiday is "Indigenous Peoples Day" in PCer than thou Berkeley. --seed

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Judy & Micky
Date: 12 May 99 - 03:48 AM

...right here in the barn

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: WyoWoman
Date: 12 May 99 - 10:32 AM

This is so funny. Katlaughing and I have discovered that we live in the SAME TOWN in Wyoming!!! We've committed to at least organizing a sing... Incredible.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 12 May 99 - 10:38 AM

Hi,

My house is in Sea Bright, NJ. right between the Atlantic Ocean and The Shrewsbury River. Right across the River is the mouth of The Navasink River. I just kayak across The Shrewsbury over to The Navasink and up that river I go. You can see the sunsets from our backyard, or, if you can get up early enough, walk half a block over to the beach to watch the sunrises.

We're very close (about 1/2 mile) from a natural reserve called Sandy Hook. For anyone thats interested, there is a nude beach there called Gunnison's Beach.

The rivers are salt water and I fish right off my dock.

I think it would be a fun weekend or week or whatever.

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Bert
Date: 12 May 99 - 11:47 AM

Anna's house sounds just fine. When??

I'm sure that there Mudcateers are going to get together at various times and places all over the world (The most central spot is about 4000 miles down) but please check with Max before finalizing any 'specific' event. Apart from general courtesy, there are many issues that you need to talk to him about. There's Tee shirts, advertizing, liability and permission if you plan to use the Mudcat name. Remember Max doesn't have time to read all the threads He and his elves have a full time job just keeping things running and up to date.

I hope to get to as many of them as I can.

Bert.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: folk1234
Date: 12 May 99 - 12:11 PM

Anna; Your place sounds great! Count me in, if we organize a big house-hoot at your place. Are there any Mudcatters along the way from Ada, OK the Seabright, NJ. Perhaps we can meet, sing, ride together sing and/or convoy (and sing). KC and Katlaughing: It's amazing who you might meet just 'cattin' around.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 12 May 99 - 12:12 PM

I have a two week vacation to take whenever I like. I was going to take it the middle two weeks of August. That's when everything is most wonderful here.

This is so exciting!

Bert, you hope to get to as many of WHAT as you can.

Will this be an all out real actual festival? Do I need to notify the local guys and get permission? I've never done this before.

We have music all the time in our basement. Almost every weekend. In fact,we're having a jam this Saturday from 2PM til 2AM. In deference to our neighbors, the jammin stops at 12AM Sunday, but the party, discussions, playing CD's a little more quietly continues. Anyone that wants to can come sit in. We barbeque, and everyone brings food and drinks. We usually supply sodas, beer, wine. Who can't drive stays at our house. So far, everyone has been real respectful of our home and there have been no problems at all. People drop in and out all day. Theres always a theme. First Day of Spring, Celebration of Music, The Wall of Music, etc. We can have a Mudcat Festival. I haven't gotten my Mudcat tee shirt yet, but I hope to have it by August ;-)

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Bert
Date: 12 May 99 - 03:25 PM

Anna,

"THEM" is Mudcateer gatherings, there is bound to be more than one.

Re: Will this be an all out real actual festival? Do I need to notify the local guys and get permission?

It depends how big your house is versus how many people you expect. If you have make arrangements with a local hotel or campground then you shouldn't need much in the way of permission. But if you have to hire a hall or theatre then you might want to look into insurance to CYA.

You would need to get permission is if you intend to use public land or if you envision some crowd control or traffic or parking problems. For example, at a nearby house concert the hosts had to get parking permission, because it was permit parking on their street.

So decide When, then when you find out how many people you expect you can address the other issues.

I'll certainly be there if I'm free that weekend.

Bert

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 12 May 99 - 03:46 PM

To everyone,

It is very exciting to think I might be hosting a mudcatters get together. My e-mail address is at my job, but I can receive any e-mail. If you're interested, please write me at [e-mail]. I will e-mail my phone number to anyone one who expresses an interest in coming out.

KC, if Katlaughing is interested, and I hope she is, perhaps you can come together. It's great that you're both from the same town. How long have you both been on Mudcat?

Susan of DT, Where are you? Would you like to come over this weekend for the jam? I will e-mail you my address and phone number.

Bert, I hope you can make it. My house is not real large, but we have plenty sleeping space. People can bring sleeping bags and/or tents. I can have about 4 tents outside. Our town is very liberal, it's a tourist community.

If August is not good for everyone, we can do it when it's convienent for most everyone.

Soon, Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Alice
Date: 12 May 99 - 05:25 PM

KC, if you are still reading this thread, email to me at [e-mail]
The Mudcat message sender doesn't work for me. I responded to your Vilia (Vilja) question, in case you didn't read it again, and have both the original German and an English translation of lyrics.

Alice in Montana

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Susan of DT
Date: 12 May 99 - 06:48 PM

Anna
I sent you a member e-mail with pphone, etc.
If you get 30 or so people who sleep on the floor and/or go to local hotels, it should not be a big problem. Is your place suitable for back yard camping? If it gets too popular, it would get out of hand if 100 people show up at one house.
I think we need several regional gatherings, rather than thinking of one massive get together, say 8 or so in the states, a few in Canada, a few in Australia, one or more each in England, Scotland, Ireland, ...
And remember to post which regular festivals you go to to collect a group to look for each other.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 May 99 - 09:55 PM

Annap; thanks for the invite. I'll be doing good to get to MUDSTOCK99 in Montana. I would LOVE to come your way, as my twwin grandsons are in CT and just turning a year on May 26th, but it'll have to wait this year.

I've been on the Mudcat since the end of Dec. 1998. An editorial on the Colorado massacre I just wrote was published here and in a national-by-subscription paper, in which I mentioned the Mudcat a lot. I'm hoping my article was what enticed her to join in. Course she may've known about it all along. At any rate, I am excited as all get out to have another Mudcateer in our wide and open spaces!

You guys are wonderful!

katlaughing

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: WyoWoman
Date: 12 May 99 - 11:38 PM

Alice -- email me the Vilja lyrics at [e-mail], if you would. And thank you for doing that.

Anna P -- on Mudcat three days now, and Kat, no I actually found Mudcat through the recommendation of a friend in another city. But I'm happy to have stumbled onto it.

I'm looking for the Mudstock 99 thread -- that's at least in our neck of the woods and sounds plenty fun.

KC

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 May 99 - 01:09 AM

KC and anyone else who is interested, here are links, I hope, to the Mudstock 99 threads:

RE:MUDSTOCK 99

Signup for Mudstock 99

kat

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 May 99 - 01:13 AM

This one should work for the signup:

RE: signup for Mudstock 99

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: bill\sables
Date: 13 May 99 - 05:20 AM

Anna. Bill Sables here in the U.K. I will be in and around PA in June and July, If your festival is on around that time I would love to come Please let me know My e-mail is [e-mail] Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Bert
Date: 13 May 99 - 08:58 AM

Bill, You can stop in and see me as well while you're here we'll arrange a sing just for you.

Bert [e-mail]

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 13 May 99 - 09:12 AM

anna, I could probably come, too! My mom-in-law lives in Seaside Park! Allison

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 13 May 99 - 01:21 PM

Hello Everyone,

Susan, I sent you directions on your personal page. I'm looking forward to seeing you.

Bill, Even if we don't have the festival, you are more than welcome to come and visit. Let me know when and we'll arrange a jam for you. Do you like to fish?

Alison(Animaterra) Did you mean Saturday or the festival or just anytime? If you meant Saturday let me know and I'll send you directions. Kat, anytime. Referring to another thread about Catspaw, I loved your prayers. He has mine too.

I told my honey, Glenn, about this and he says any friend of mine is always welcome in our home. He loves any reason to make music.

What say new friends, shall we do this? Anyone else interested? I haven't heard from Max. I wrote him, but he hasn't responded yet.

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 13 May 99 - 01:59 PM

Wish it could be this Sat., but I can't make it. Say, why not have simultaneous Mudstocks- one on the East coast and one in the Wild West? Only trouble is it would give you folks in the middle of it all a big conflict- which way to go? Maybe we should do it on alternate weekends after all...
allison

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Bert
Date: 13 May 99 - 04:43 PM

Anna,

Max is even busier than usual this week 'cos he is in the process of moving his office, so he might not be able to get back to you for a few days.

Bert.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: bbc
Date: 14 May 99 - 06:34 PM

Hi, Anna,

Duane D. & I are 2-2 1/2 hours away, I think, & would hope to attend a get-together. There are several events in the area in June already--Mystic (CT) Sea Music Festival June 10-13, Clearwater Festival (Croton-on-Hudson, NY) June 18-20, and Old Songs (near Albany, NY) June 25-27. July or August would work for us. The mid-August would work fine for us, but it would be nice if we could include Bill. Probably the best thing to do is pin down a date & see how many takers you have. BTW, I *love* Sandy Hook! Thanks so much for the invitation!

best,

bbc (Barbara in NY)

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Len N (inactive)
Date: 15 May 99 - 06:37 PM

Anna

What a great offer....sounds like you have a wonderfull place for a musical gettogether. I imagine I could get away during the month of August and would plan on coming from northwestern Pa.

Thanks

Len

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Allan C.
Date: 17 May 99 - 09:05 AM

I would really like to be there. Sounds like it has potential for a great time. I might be able to make it there if it is early in August, say not later than the weekend of the 14th.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 17 May 99 - 09:46 AM

Hi!

I hope to see you at your home Anna. You did say fishing right off the dock, didn't you?

Mudstock99 is out for me unless I get laid off. One can always hope.

All the best,
Dan

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 17 May 99 - 10:41 AM

Wow! What a response. Thank you.

It looks like I may have had eyes bigger than my stomach, so to speak. I wasn't thinking 50-100 (maybe more) people. I was thinking 15-20 people. My house would be too small for a large number.

But..there is no reason we can't hold a Mudcatter get-together at my house. I'll have vacation the second two weeks of August. What say we put it together then?

Susan of DT, I promise it will be totally acoustical. No electricity. Susan and Dick Greenhouse came to a jam this Saturday, and I'm afraid it wasn't exactly what Susan was expecting. There was a lot of electric rock music at the time she and Dick arrived. Dick was able to join in a bit but, it wasn't as great as it could have been for them. After the left we had two acousticals and a mandolin. They did some beautiful stuff. All I could think of was I wished Susan and Dick hadn't left too soon. Next time.

We can hold it out on the Gazebo which is right on the river. Or in the basement, or in the backyard. We have wonderful neighbors.

As for the festival, Sandy Hook has a yearly jazz festival and I don't see any reason we couldn't start a Mudcat Folk Festival too. I could get all the info on the situation if anybody's interested. I know someone who could prepare food to sell, and we could sell Mudcat tee shirts as long as some of the sales went to the Environmental group. I think it's Clearwater. They have a Clearwater festival at Sandy Hook also. Shall I look into it? It would be fun.

Annap

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Shack
Date: 17 May 99 - 11:24 AM

I am from S.C. and would like to suggest a few potential venues in this area. The Lodge Alley Inn in Charleston has big loft suites and a huge enclosed courtyard with lots of benches and tables spread about. Santee State Park has camping, a few cabins, and a big rustic meeting room with a huge fireplace. Its restaurant specializes in--you guessed it. The Grove Park Inn in Ashville is expensive, but what a venue. The great hall is all stone construction and is the size of a big ballroom with an enormous fireplace. There are numerous outdoor terraces and grassy plateaus looking out over the mountains. Finally there are your basic-to-rustic beachfront hotels, like the Desoto in Tybee Island, (may be gone) the Blockade Runner in Wrightsville Beach, and the Landmark at Myrtle Beach. Anybody interested?

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: danl
Date: 17 May 99 - 02:49 PM

sean and other UK based mudcatters

can we go back to the idea of meeting up at one of the UK festivals? im turning a shade of green hearing about all these plans, but as always am stranded on this little lsland of ours! the idea for one near one of the major cities sounds good, and of course there is the cambridge folk festival which i have heard so much about but never been to before... but what the hell, we could all work something out!

love ivy b*

(ps if i dont follow this thread up for days and days then its because my computor has blown itsself up again, not because ive lost intrest...)

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Bert
Date: 17 May 99 - 03:05 PM

Well there's one thing, Ivy B. wherever you choose you don't have far to go.

Bert :-)

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: danl
Date: 17 May 99 - 03:19 PM

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Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: danl
Date: 17 May 99 - 03:26 PM

oh right. ive just re-read that and ive got it now. ha ha ha.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 17 May 99 - 04:04 PM

To Everyone, Susan of DT made a suggestion when she came to my house on Saturday. (Susan, if I'm misquoting you, just let me know, please) There can never be just one Mudcat Festival because we are too spread out. So... why don't we have regional Mudcat Festivals? Here in Jersey, down in S.C, over in the UK, etc. Over in Wyoming, Montana, etc... I think that's a wonderful idea!! If we can make it out of our regions, great, if not, we can share it here with pictures, music, etc. We can steal ideas for our festivals from each other.

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: bbc
Date: 17 May 99 - 04:40 PM

anna,

Plans sound good, so far, but I think you need to pin it down to a particular day/weekend, so you can get a head count & people can put it on their summer calendar.

best,

bbc

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 17 May 99 - 04:59 PM

Ok, how about Saturday, August 14th, 1999. People can come earlier if they like and can leave Sunday night or whenever. It will be a totally folk/blues acoustic, no electric, weekend. Well, Glenn may want to drum a little. I can handle about 15 people. I can have a couple of tents in my yard facing the river.

It'll be fun. Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Dani
Date: 17 May 99 - 09:47 PM

Wrightsville Beach sounds WONDERFUL!!

I'm 3-4 hours from there, and would love to help put together a gathering in this neck of the woods...

Dani

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 May 99 - 12:41 AM

Liam's Brother: Have ye spoken to the missus about that getting laid (off) bit? Sure would love to have you come to Mudstock99! ***Big Grin***

katlaughing, being facetious!

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Sean MacRuaraidh (inactive)
Date: 18 May 99 - 05:37 AM

To Ivy B.,

I would like to go to the Cambridge folk festival.

It would be nice if there was a group of mudcatters there!

Please see the follownig for a list of festivals,

http://www.froots.demon.co.uk/fdate99.html

Jul 30-1 Aug CHARLES WELLS CAMBRIDGE FOLK FESTIVAL. Details from: Tim Holt, Leisure Services, The Guildhall, Cambridge, CB2 3QJ. Tel: [phone] (mailing list & info)/[phone] (box office). e-mail: [e-mail] web: www.cam-folkfest.co.uk

Anyone else in the UK interested ?

Sean MacRuaraidh

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Bert
Date: 18 May 99 - 10:36 AM

Isn't that the Mudstock weekend? We can't be in two places at once

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 18 May 99 - 11:05 AM

Blast! That's right! Ok,we don't want to put the two too close together, that would be too much I think. How about July 17th or 24th. Then Bill Sables could be here from the UK too. Is this good for everyone?

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 18 May 99 - 11:13 AM

I hope someone will post a full account of Mudstock 99 and Annapolia '99 if they come off to make the rest of us jealous. ( I shall be emptying tavernas in Samos this year)

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 18 May 99 - 11:20 AM

I'm not going to let this go away unless everyone changes their mind. Even if only one person wants to come, it'll happen. Having Dick Greenhouse and Susan over Saturday whetted my appetite for folk. It's been a long, long time since I was part of this. I've decided to try (TRY) to learn a song on my guitar. Maybe "Keep on truckin' Mama". Different thread.

All I need is the chords. (I'm just learning to play)

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Vixen
Date: 18 May 99 - 11:56 AM

Anna--

You can count me and Tim in for 14 August, because we were tentatively planning on Mudstock 99. 17 July is out because we have a gig, 24 July is out because of Falcon Ridge Folk Festival, for which we have tickets. I don't have a problem with having regional Mudstocks on the same day--Kind of adds to the sense of commonality to me!

Vic

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 18 May 99 - 12:18 PM

Geez!! Ok, tell you what, we'll have two! One on the same day as Mudcatter99, August 14, for those who can't make Montana, and one in July. If it were me, I'd have one every weekend, but I have to let my honey Glenn, have some time for his RnR jammin'.

This is going to be fun!! We'll jam right out on the gazebo which is right on the water. I'm going to learn that song!!

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: bill\sables
Date: 18 May 99 - 12:37 PM

Anna, I will be coming over on June 16 and will be around till August 2nd, When you fix a date let me know My e-mail is [e-mail] Any other events around PA would be nice to know about also. Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: LEJ
Date: 18 May 99 - 12:55 PM

OK, tell you what- let's all just do what we want on Aug 14 never mind that some of us have been planning the get-together in Montana for two months. It'll save me the hassle of worrying about tee-shirts anyway..LEJ

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 18 May 99 - 01:04 PM

Wait, don't get angry LEJ. Only people who can't make it to Montana (like me) and are around here will come to my house. And we'll be thinking about you guys.

Don't you think we'd much rather be in Montana??

This is not a festival, just a get together. You're invited to the one in July if you like..

I didn't mean to cause a problem. Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Allan C.
Date: 18 May 99 - 02:25 PM

Anna, such generosity rarely creates a problem except in those who don't know how to graciously receive it. I think it is wonderful that you have invited us to visit with you at your home. I hope you will make it clear to us what you would want us to bring with us in terms of food, etc.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: LEJ
Date: 18 May 99 - 02:38 PM

Right Allan...maybe I could get some lessons in grace from you.

Annap... I just think it might make more sense to keep all of these get-togethers informal. The idea for Mudstock was that an officially sanctioned Mudcat Cafe event was a good idea.I now think that is probably not a good idea. Good luck with your gathering, though.

LEJ

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 18 May 99 - 02:46 PM

Thank you Allen. I'm new and I was afraid I was being presumptous again. I've been know to jump into what I enjoy with both feet. I'm just so excited about this. I know a few folk/blues musicians around here that will want to join us too.

The only requirement, for those who decide to come, is you and your music. Anything else would be welcome. Food, drink,etc. There will be plenty here, but more is always good. Usually. Sometimes. ;-)

I hope you'll be here, Allen.

Annapolia'99. I like that.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 18 May 99 - 03:03 PM

LEJ,

An officially sanctioned Mudcat Cafe event is a wonderful idea. I wish I could be there. Why do you feel our little get together would in any way effect Mudstock'99? I will gladly recind my offer on August 14th if the general feeling is that it's going to upset it. Up til now we have not heard from you in this thread at all. Why didn't you mention something earlier?

MAX, where are you?

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: LEJ
Date: 18 May 99 - 03:23 PM

Annap- this is the latest in a series of threads to do with festivals, get togethers etc. In an earlier thread, I had suggested meeting at my house, and then was suddenly presented with the prospect of hundreds of people camped in my yard. I suggested we gather at an existing festival, which was being held Aug 14th in Columbus MT, and we jokingly called it Mudstock. There were requests for tee-shirts, a Mudcat camping area etc, and things that were starting to look like an organizer would be needed as the date approached. My feeling was that it would be a long way for many to come, and certainly gatherings in other areas would make sense, but not on the same day. I think that that would dilute the impact of what we were planning for Montana. BUT (and that's a big but)I am now thinking that what we were planning was probably more formal and required more of a time investment than I wanted to put in.

Let's just say I'll be at the Musician's Rendezvous on Aug 14th, 1999 in Columbus, Montana and I am hoping to see some of the Mudcat Phoaks there.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annap
Date: 18 May 99 - 03:30 PM

Can I hear from others on this, please? Am I being held responsible for wrecking Mudstock'99??

Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: bbc
Date: 18 May 99 - 09:41 PM

I certainly wouldn't think so, anna. I suspect the same people would not likely be able to go both places. Duane & I are available any of the three dates you mentioned. July 17th is the best, August 14th is 2nd, & July 24th is 3rd choice, but do-able. Don't lose heart!

bbc

Matthew B.--Can we meet you & your angel?

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From:
Date: 19 May 99 - 01:22 AM

AnnaP--

I'm not sure Mudcat is really organized to the point of being able to officially sanction anything. Sure, Max owns the website and provides the software. But a whole community keeps it going. It's rather complex in its structure--perhaps even anarchic.

I doubt that having an event at the Jersey Shore would seriously drain off a lot of people from attending something out near Yellowstone National Park. There are thousands of miles between the two venues. And while one or two people might actually travel a VERY long distance for a special event, most of us will choose to make music with our nearby neighbors and other mudcatters. A chance to make music in New Jersey sounds like a wonderful weekend excursion for me (from Maryland) because it's only a couple of hours of driving (well, 3 hours actually, but who's counting?). Because of proximity, it's an easy opportunity to make music together, and therefore I might take you up on it. On the other hand, a chance to travel to Montana is a wonderful idea, and might engender many fantasies, but ultimately is probably a pipe dream, since it involves a great deal of expense and effort to get there from the East Coast.

So let your events happen informally, and consider repeating frequently and regularly. If 5 or 10 people drop by once a month to make music with you, you'll probably have a lot more hours of fun than if 100 people show up once a year.

And the suggestion for Mudcatters to join in at the Folklore Society of Greater Washington Getaway in October is an informal and logical extension of what's happening anyway--even without publicizing here on Mudcat, we'd have close to a dozen Mudcatters show up anyway. The rest of y'all might just as well drop by.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: folk1234
Date: 19 May 99 - 11:04 AM

Dear AnnaP: Don't feel bad or discouraged. Your exceptional generosity and hospitality will be rewarded many times over by the many good times and good friends you will enjoy. Earlier, I indicated that I would like to come to NJ from OK. At that time I did not know that your planned dates conflicted with Mudstock99, which I also plan to attend. So be it! When I'm next planning to be up NJ way, I shall contact you to see if we may share some music. There are all too few opportunities for some of us 'catters to meet and sing with others. We must go where we can, when we can. By the way, Mudstock is only 1369 miles from Ada, OK, while Sea Bright NJ is approx 1500 miles.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: bill\sables
Date: 19 May 99 - 02:42 PM

I would love to get to Mudstock 99 but I have to be back in England then. But I do hope to get to Mudstock 2000 wherever and whenever that is. Until then I just want to meet my new friends face to face when I come over to the U.S and play a few tunes together, so anna don't cancel your informal get together I am looking foreward to it very much. Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: LEJ
Date: 19 May 99 - 03:32 PM

Maybe we should start thinking about a meeting place for summer of 2000, more centrally located to acommodate a bigger geographic cross-section of Mudcatters?

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Shack
Date: 19 May 99 - 05:40 PM

Really good idea, Ledge. Kansas City is pretty central; so is Memphis, with a "lean" toward the populous Northeast. So are Cincinatti and Chicago. I realize these are all cities, but they're all supposed to be pretty cool. 'Specially Memphis, lotta blues in Memphis. Watcha' think, everybody?

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 May 99 - 06:02 PM

I, for one, absolutely LOVE the kind of location of MUDCAT 99 even though I can't make the trek. I reeeealy wouldn't want to have it in or very close to a major city. Just a personal preference. No justification or anything. - Well, you asked!

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: karen k
Date: 19 May 99 - 06:17 PM

AnnaP, I'm in CT and would love to come down. July 24 is out but the other 2 dates are fine. Please let me know what is settled on. Also, I would prefer to motel it. Could you possibly suggest a couple of reasonably priced motels? Probably somewhere nearby but away from the coast would be best since summer prices would be too high and they are probably booked by now. I would probably want to drive down on Friday and back on Sunday. This sounds like fun and a nice chance to meet some 'catters, to say nothing of a great day of singing!

karen k [e-mail]

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: bill\sables
Date: 19 May 99 - 07:40 PM

I agree with Alan C I would prefer to meet you folks in the country Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Susan of DT
Date: 19 May 99 - 08:03 PM

Anna - I just checked the date for the Champlain (VT) Valley Folk Festival and it is the weekend before the August date you proposed, so we could probably get there, like wise the July dates.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 20 May 99 - 11:25 AM

Hi Everyone,

I was out sick from work with a cold yesterday, so I couldn't respond. I feel much more positive today, especially after reading the responses. I definitely will hold the get togethers. July 17th seems to be good, and August 14th.

Everyone that's interested can just send me an e-mail or personal message and I will give them my address, phone number, and directions. My e-mail address is [e-mail].

I'm going to tell some of my local friends as well as Glenn's brother (he plays guitar, banjo, and mandolin). This is going to be such fun. I hope we have a real good turnout.

I just have to learn "Keep on truckin' Mama" now.

Love, Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: annamill
Date: 20 May 99 - 06:21 PM

Ok, we have a couple of people for July 17th. We need more.

How exciting! Anna

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Allan C.
Date: 21 May 99 - 06:43 AM

The July date turns out to be better for me. I plan to be there!

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 21 May 99 - 06:58 AM

UK 'catters: Betraying my colours, I and many others will be at Cropredy. A bit expensive, but plenty of time to 'bump into each other'.

Like many others, I always carry my 'family flag' to festivals - Green field, 3x3, white hare and moon. Look for that, come over, and extend a paw.

Looking forward to meeting some of you. So, anybody going?

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Ferrara
Date: 21 May 99 - 07:13 AM

Anna, it sounds luscious, but for practical reasons we don't get that far out of town very often. But I'm hoping....

LEJ, Charlie Baum is right, lots of us in the East can't even think about going to Montana this year (maybe ever), but a trip to New Jersey is a possibility. Anna's "do" will necessarily be fairly small, so don't think it will draw any people away from Mudstock 99.

I don't think all the Mudcatters will ever get together, but that doesn't mean we can't meet and sing as often as we can work it out. I hope you'll still try to arrange for an area where Mudcatters can meet and/or camp at Mudstock 99, even if I can't be there I want it to happen! - Rita Ferrara

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: Sean MacRuaraidh (inactive)
Date: 21 May 99 - 01:15 PM

UK Mudcatters

13/14 August 99

Cropredy looks good to me. I will look into going and post confirmation here.

Subject: RE: watcha'say let's have our own festival
From: danl
Date: 24 May 99 - 06:47 AM

sorry sean about the delay in replying, my computor did give up on me, despite my patheticly pleading and threatning it.

i might be booked up for that weekend already, but will now be going to the cambridge folk festival on 30th july - 1st august. is anyone else going perchance ....?