BS: Not U.S.'s fault

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Riginslinger
Date: 23 Feb 08 - 02:31 PM

"we are heading both in the US and the UK for the government of the stupid, by the stupid, for the stupid."


                  In the US we are there. This year it started in Iowa.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Gurney
Date: 22 Feb 08 - 09:31 PM

You/They are responsible for French Fries. And especially Shoestring French Fries.

Everyone else who speaks the language has chips and shoelaces.
Don't get them mixed up, or your shoes will fall off.

And Webster, who taught you how not to spell, even French words like sabre, metre, etc.

I didn't mean that etc. is a French word.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 09:35 PM

I just looked it up. Frederick Hayek was on the faculty of the London School of Economics.

                   Isn't that the idiot who led Ronald Reagan over the cliff with "The Road to Surfdom?"

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 06:15 PM

No, we can blame you for Thatcherpiginthetrough. Your school of economics.

I have also just watched a debate about current UK plans to increase scrutiny of possible extraordinary rendition overflights.

If we had flown secret flights over the US - I suspect the answer would have been "Boom Boom". Ming Campbell was a tad more cirumspect in his analysis. He is alas another example of a thinking leader of a political party who succumbed to "the judgement of the public" (compare remarks here about "folk") - in a way which makes me fear that we are heading both in the US and the UK for the government of the stupid, by the stupid, for the stupid.

Rambling slightly - in the same way that Ming Campbell was judged not on policies and judgment (where he was excellent) but on image and soundbite (where he was less modern) I fear that although the next president of the USA will be a democrat (in name) he will be Barack Obama who is already in thrall to the oligopoly, and who will be elected because of personality politics not rational judgment.

What I was working up to - the US is worldwide reaping the whirlwind of things like extraordinary rendition. You can blame us in the UK for not shooting the Fokkers down.

Sneck up. (that is Yorkshire vernacular although I am not from there. An American might say - if not embarrased at who he might be quoting - "bring it on"). We know we are right, and so, in your hearts (Oh shit was that the Barry Goldwater electoral slogan?) do you.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Amergin
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 04:28 PM

Margaret Thatcher

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: kendall
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 04:17 PM

You Brits blame us for the Torrey Canyon oil spill, we blame you for Twiggy.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 04:12 PM

Oh, that's why everything is being run by the pigs. I'd never thought of that.

                     They're burning the US embassy now--can't say that I blame them.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 04:07 PM

Makes your blood run cold, doesn't it? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 02:07 PM

Hot shit LH - you've just outlined the sequel to "Animal Farm"! I know the film rights holders. Do you think they would be interested?

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 01:51 PM

Oh, of course. The world-wide Islamic conspiracy to take over everything and make us all stop eating pork. That's got to be it!

Did you know that the world's pigs are co-conspirators in that dark and evil plan? Yes, it's true! There are pigs in your very community who are secretly working for the world-wide Islamic takeover. They can't be trusted. The most perfidious part of it all is that pigs do not believe in Allah at all. They're doing it for completely pragmatic and selfish reasons of their own. They have no scruples whatsoever! They also secretly back Israel, because the Jews don't eat pork either. They want to convert the entire world to either Judaism or Islam, then set the two at each other's throats. Their longterm plan is to run everything for the benefit of pigs after the Muslims and Jews kill each other off...having first eliminated the Christians and all the other people who eat pork.

An independent Kosovo is just one small step on the road to a porcine takeover of this planet.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: pdq
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 12:27 PM

think Islam

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 11:48 AM

Yeah, but how does it advance the cause to extend Albania's borders at the expense of Serbia?

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 10:41 AM

Actually, LH, the French, the Dutch, the Spaniards and the Moors, not to mention the Romans and Attila the Hun have all had empires, and there were the Mughal emporers in India too, and now it seems the US is trying to build an empire by both war and cultural colonialism, so I think UK is probably no worse than many there.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 10:26 AM

OK Australia is our fault as well, but it's nice to remember that England also used Virginia as a penal colony.

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 03:22 AM

What monumental f*^kup is Bush trying to cover up then?!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Riginslinger
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 09:49 PM

"Sure! An independent Kosova. :D"
    "'But that shit's totally cancelled out by the existence of "American cheese.'"
---Will


                  Hard to cipher. But an independent Kosovo is a direct result of Bill Clinton needing to get Monica Lewinsky's picture off the front pages of the newspapers.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 08:18 PM

Soccar brawls

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 07:41 PM

The teletubbies.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: artbrooks
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 07:34 PM

Warm beer

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 07:06 PM

Brian Mulroney.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 07:03 PM

The most boring TV program Coronation Street.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 06:59 PM

Lutefisk, gravlaks, sursild, stockfish. Rakefisk, sushi, boudin, steak tartare, solomon gundy, nor Solomon Rushdi.

Sake, schnapps, Belgum Gin, huangjiu or pinyin.

Fermented Black Beans, fermented bamboo products.


Anything french, except the *kind of french+ Cajuns.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:56 PM

And English cuisine....often reputed to be the worst in the world. ;-)

The French take particular delight in pointing that out. They also say that the English are not much good at sex...relatively speaking. (I'm sure there are exceptions to that, though. After all, Diana Rigg is English, right?)

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Peace
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:00 PM

LOL

And Canada.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:57 PM

Yeah well we could blame the English for Australia.... ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Peace
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:52 PM

AH. So you ADMIT to the responsibility for Spears? What's next? Rocks?

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Alice
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:36 PM

But we are sorry about Britney.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Alice
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:35 PM

Not responsible for Posh and Beck.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:16 PM

The US is in no way resposible for the Peugot.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:51 PM

I used to think that Woody Allen was the USA's fault, but I'm beginning to feel that it might be the other way around.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: bankley
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:34 PM

Not U.S.s fault that we have better beer and weed North of the 'medicine line'.....

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: PoppaGator
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:30 PM

Martin Gibson changed his Mudcat name to "Once Famous" shortly before disappearing completely.

Not the U.S.'s fault!

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:22 PM

As most of them are German or Greek in origin, they aren't our fault either!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:15 PM

The English royal family is not our fault....

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: kendall
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 11:48 AM

And we also didn't bomb Pearl Harbor either.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Megan L
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 10:37 AM

Surely the title of this thread is gramatiacally incorrect. It would be more correct to say Not Ouyr fault.

Meg who is heading oot the door as fast as her walkin stick will move

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 10:29 AM

However, we take full responsibility for The Rt. Hon. sir jOhn of Hull, and damn proud of it!

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 10:28 AM

But you ARE to blame for Martin Gibson.
Come to think of it, where is Martin..........??

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: artbrooks
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 09:35 AM

The US has absolutely no responsibility for Little Hawk, Liz the Squeak or McGrath of Harlow. I'm not at all sure that we should assume full responsibility for Catspaw - clearly, he was corrupted by aliens at some point. On the other hand, I think that we can proudly claim credit for the illustrious Max of Mudcat!

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 04:47 AM

We didn't create America - we were perfectly happy ruling you properly but you had to go and get the silly idea that you could do it yourselves!

*BG*

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Folkiedave
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 04:21 AM

I didn't blame the USA for appointing Bryan Robson as Sheffield United's manager - nor did I blame them for him staying so long in post.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 03:45 AM

Damn Eric.......You're right! I dunno' why I had never considered that before, but you are oh so right............and yet somehow, now, I feel so....uh, diminished...........***sigh***..................cheap even.............

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:53 AM

England IS to blame for it all, after all we created AMERICA, may god forgive us.

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:17 AM

Hell, why stop at Ireland? The English have been a pain in the rest of the world's butt ever since, oh, about the year 1200... ;-)

I say this as one who grew up in the British Commonwealth and greatly admired the British redcoats and Nelson's brave lads in their wooden ships...but I'm still aware that they were a plague upon their neighbours time and time again. One reason for that was simply that they were damn good at it!

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:12 AM

Well, the Jack Russell and Parson Jack Russell terriers are not the US's fault, not the fusses about the various Belgian Shepherds or the Akbash, Karabash, etc. But the American Cocker Spaniel definitely is.

I'd be a bit iffy about long haired Weimaraners too, and indeed the way judges appear to accept different breed standards (although there are not different breed standards for the various Pointer colours. That's Pointer, not GWP, GSP, Braque or any HPR dog.

But never mind. Everything else in the world is the fault of the UK's insensitive ("Kumbaya!") treatment of Ireland, or so many 'catters seem to think.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 02:04 AM

Well, okay. The troubles in Myanmar (former Burma). I don't think that mess is the USA's fault.

And then there's Shatner. He was born in Canada. Not the USA's fault. We Canadians are, of course, very proud of him for boldly going where none had gone before.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Slag
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 01:33 AM

Have you ever noticed that Spaw spelled backwards is Waps!


Gals

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:18 AM

Bullshit! I like all those things and the fact that I have to look so hard to get some of them is proof that this damn country is ALWAYS at fault, even with its own citizens......and I'm damn proud to say it! I tell ya' what, we ARE the leaders of the whole damn world and the next in line ain't nothin' but our prison bitch!

We drive the SUV's and 4WD's with that powerful and masterful American iron under the hood because we rule and we don't give a damn about pissing away the world's piddlin' resources because we CAN! Every country in the world envies us as they should!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:09 AM

If there's a shortage of anchovies, it's not our fault. Nobody here eats them. Same for Vegemite, Marmite, and kidneys. If you can't find them, don't be pointing fingers in our direction. We don't eat them, we aren't hiding them, we don't want them. If you can't find them, blame the Chinese.

Subject: RE: BS: Not U.S.'s fault
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Feb 08 - 11:54 PM

I already explained that Westminster is NOT an example. I repeat:

Actually the Westminster Kennel Club as well as the show itself are wholly American in their attitudes displaying the same damned "We're the Greatest and You Can Fuck Off" attitude known so well by our neighbors on the planet. The WKC follows the AKC in this and instead of standing up for the breed and it's world-wide history and influence they tag along with the American Kennel Club.

Here's an example near and dear to me.........Longhair Weimaraners are not recognized for conformation show competition in the United States although they can be registered and are eligible for agility, obedience, and field trial competition. But everywhere else in the world and they are recognized for all competition and even highly sought after in many places including Germany, the ancestral home of the breed (obviously). Longhairs developed right alongside their shorthair brethren but when they came to the U.S.A. they were verboten. The story is too long and too damn silly to tell, but once again, the United States sucks owl dicks!

Spaw