The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 07:35 AM

Maybe you have no job because you interview poorly. If you're anything at all in an interview as you seem to be around here, its no wonder you're unemployed! When asked a question in the interviews, do you quote from your "Life's Work" and ramble on ad nauseum about your single degree and forklift prowess?

Have you considered your lack of employment may simply be because you come off as such a complete asshole in your interviews? I can easily see how it could be the problem.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 06:26 AM

"Wav, under your regulationist regime (what a silly term), how would you prove that YOU aren't a capitalist immigrant." (Volgadon)...birth certificate, passport.
To Stu and WSK/How much can a koala bear? - you may, then, be pleased to know that poem 19 of 230 did NOT become one of my Chants from Walkabouts. But as for "bitterness of personal failure" (WSK)...I'm quite content with my 4 techinical certificates, BA in humanities, travel through 40 countries, A-grade junior sports trophies, etc., thanks pal; also many of my poems were written when I had both a job and a partner; and, to Joe P, maybe from my next interview I will indeed get the job, instead of "Why ON EARTH did you come back?"/"You must be mad!"/"Most people go the other way!", because not everyone takes that attitude.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,We Subvert Koalas
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 05:07 AM

And, at that Paris station, they closed the doors throughout,
For cleaning through the morning, insisting - stragglers out.
So it was that a few of us spent the night on the street,
And, I do declare to you, it left young me dead beat.

Structured like this, one could very well sing it to the old Mutton Pie melody and stick a fol-the-diddly-dido / fol-the-diddle-day chorus after it too. Also, anything that fits Mutton Pie (and quite a few things do) also fits the tune of the Holy Modal Rounders' Same Old Man. Otherwise, it's the sort of thing one might smile at if one found it anonymously scrawled on the door of public toilet - which isn't to taint public toilet folk verse by associating it with WAV's drivel, rather to suggest a more appropriate context for it. The dynamic sense of the thing in terms of narrative is entirely mired by the sentimental superfluity of the last verse as the poet vainly struggles to connect his subjective misery to the wider issues of the objective world that so constantly, and consistently, elude him. Or is that the point (one can't help but wonder)? If so, such noble sentiments are but the flotsam on the tide of a manifest bitterness of personal failure and general inconsequence that pervades his work as a whole and is the root and cause of its expressed racism. Even his desolate cry of I love the world being multicultural is one of the misanthropic outsider cast adrift in a search for the centre of his own little universe wherein he, and his Life's Work, is all that matters. Whatever the case, in Poem 19 of 230, Walkaboutsverse has provided himself with the perfect epitaph: A Straggler in the Human Domain.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Joe P at work
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 04:22 AM

What I dont understand is that if someone wants a job then they can usually find a job. I found a job here in Hull on the day I wanted to start, in the field I wanted to work in.

Surely someone with both academic and technical qualifications should be able to find SOMETHING? Join an agency maybe?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 03 Oct 08 - 03:14 AM

WAV that poem contains several of the worst poetic lines I've ever read. Top of the awful tree is

And, I do declare to you,
    It left young me dead beat.


And just for me try getting rid of the commas dotted here and there like currants in a bun.

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 07:41 PM

Well Vol, he seems to be unemployed. Does that count?   Maybe he's trying to get work as a blowboy by showing his TECHNIQUE using a recorder as a substitute.

What does that pay in the UK? And is there more work there than in Oz? Here in the States, both sexes can make a pretty fair annual pay at it. Say Wavyflabbus, are you self-employed or is your mother in business with you?

Just playin' the dozens here............

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 01:33 PM

Wav, under your regulationist regime (what a silly term), how would you prove that YOU aren't a capitalist immigrant.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 01:03 PM

Oh, but it's all glamour in south Jersey, Volgadon.

*ROFL*

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 12:47 PM

(NOT the Weekly Walkabout)
Poem 19 of 230: JET

With time-based rail passes,
    As many youth still do,
I caught the trains through Europe -
    A good time it was, too.

But, late one night in summer,
    I ran full-on in vain,
Through quiet streets in Paris,
    To catch the London train.

And, at that Paris station,
    They closed the doors throughout,
For cleaning through the morning,
    Insisting - stragglers out.

So it was that a few of us
    Spent the night on the street,
And, I do declare to you,
    It left young me dead beat.

Yet there are many stragglers,
    Within the human domain,
Spending all their nights as such -
    While others own a plane!

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 10:56 AM

John and Iris freely say, like George and Tammy before them, "We're Not The Jetset"

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 07:46 AM

Took the words right out of my mouth, spaw. Not only are airliners bigger and more comfortable, you don't trip over them either.

Anyway Wav, I would hardly apply the term jetset to places like Newark, Camden, Bergensfield and JC.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 08:14 PM

Its hard to get good seating on a shoestring. Airliners generally have larger seats and are more comfortable.

Wavy probably likes it though..................

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 06:14 PM

And Lincolnshire. But I don't travel on a shoestring.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 05:29 PM

Hollywood, New Jersey, Sidmouth...a jetset Prudhoe Pixie/Ruth.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 03:58 PM

oooh, I'm going home to New Jersey in a few weeks - I'll be buying some salt water taffy!

(I do hope that WAV's draconian immigration policies won't be adopted in my absence, preventing my return - I've got a festival to programme.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 02:57 PM

All of his will come with a piece of real salt water taffy!

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 02:50 PM

Wav, how are your regulations going to differentiate?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 02:47 PM

I mean the system/lottery itself, Hollwoodies.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 01:47 PM

The movie was terrible, no arguments, but it's the premise that I ment.
Depardieu wasn't much better than McDowell either.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 01:44 PM

He's right, Volgadon. Andi McDowell was terribly wooden.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 01:17 PM

The movie?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 12:47 PM

Yes, Volgadon, and the USA could set a good example by ending it, in my opinion.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 09:49 AM

You've not seen Green Card, have you?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 06:16 AM

Yeah, but Geez Wavylimpdick, you really don't want some American fouling up your pristine English vision now do you? No......that'd be nasty huh? It'd be like the time your Mom played "Glory Hole" with the entire crew of an American carrier.

BTW.......You're getting deeper and deeper into the racist/segregationist role.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 05:54 AM

No, Ruth - the initial act determines what kind of immigration/emigration it is/was; and that, plus a bit of common sense, answers your question, too, Volgadon.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:02 PM

and what happens if, like me, you later separate? Should I have been compelled to return to America when my marriage ended?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:05 PM

Then my question is, HOW can you tell the difference?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:53 PM

Don - recall "safety nets" are part of my proposed regulationism.

"Really? Even if I married a girl from another country and moved there to make things easier for her and got a job to support our new family (which is in the Bible you claim to believe), I would still be a capitalist immigrant?" (Volgadon)...No, you would not be, in my view - as the emigration was for love/marriage.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:49 PM

Ah, HAH!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 04:34 PM

Ooooh - look what I said back in August (stumbled on whilst page was loading, rather than a deliberate trawl - I'm honestly not THAT sad...)


' "Closing the borders is one way to avoid facing certain bitter truths."

Indeedio. But what happens when they close the borders and you STILL can't find a job? Who do you blame then?'

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 03:54 PM

"And, in order to get at me and brag about yourself, you've just offended others who ARE trying to get BACK into work."

No bragging, Wavey - just home truths. I've been unemployed for all of about 3 months (and that was post-childbirth) since I arrived in this country nearly 18 years ago. Even when my daughter was little and my husband worked, I was a stay-at-home mum in the day, and then went out in evenings and at weekends working in restaurants and pubs.

As a good socialist I firmly believe in the welfare state, and in the underlying principle "from each according to their ability, to each accoring to their need." But personally, I would have been very uncomfortable receiving benefit in a country where I had contributed little or nothing to the tax system.

Don't worry, I don't begrudge you benefitting from the taxes I've been paying all these years, Wavey, with all my dirty foreign labour - even though you resent my foreignness diluting your culture.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 03:22 PM

No...Don has it. You would be a sandwich.

Ham on rye
I might buy
If I had a job
To fill my gob.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 03:07 PM

"Even if I move for others reasons? I will need a job wherever I live, won't I? (Volgadon)...Yes."

Really? Even if I married a girl from another country and moved there to make things easier for her and got a job to support our new family (which is in the Bible you claim to believe), I would still be a capitalist immigrant?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 02:59 PM

"if you were a genuine socialist, you would surely not leave your land for monetary reasons, i.e. you would not become a capitalist/economic immigrant."

And why wouldn't I, if there were no jobs available to me here and there were in another country? You're suggesting that I starve to death as a matter of economic principle?

You'll have to explain that a bit more fully.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 02:14 PM

Dear Don - if you were a genuine socialist, you would surely not leave your land for monetary reasons, i.e. you would not become a capitalist/economic immigrant.
Ruth - maybe from my next interview I'll get a job, instead of "Why ON EARTH did you come back"/"you must be mad". And, in order to get at me and brag about yourself, you've just offended others who ARE trying to get BACK into work.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 02:05 PM

I'm getting confused here.

If I were an avowed Socialist and I moved to another country to take a job, would that make me a Capitalist immigrant?

Lemme put the question another way:    when lunchtime comes around, if I go out in the kitchen and make myself a sandwich, does that mean that I am therefore a sandwich?

This is getting pretty metaphysical. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 01:51 PM

"Even if I move for others reasons? I will need a job wherever I live, won't I?"

Unless, of course, you're WAV, who apparently is on the dole. I wonder what is worse, WAV: being an immigrant who works, pays taxes and never has had a penny off the state (like me) or a "re-pat" who presumably has paid very little into the system, but relies on state support? Is that how you support your "own good English culture"?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 01:47 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Amos
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 01:38 PM

People, by their DNA, are brothers,
All of whom depended on their mothers
Up to a point; if I had my druthers,
People would be much nicer to each other.

IF they were, it is probably safe to say,
There might be a different and a better way,
WHere folks combined their efforts and their pay
And helped each other get by, day to day.

Of course, every system has abusers,
And even this idyllic scene would probably involve some takers and some users,
Who would puff them selves up and say they were just choosers,
And look down on everyone else and call them losers.

Sakkar Reine-Sloppe, Vestal Virgin, Temple of Tanit
Sardinia, 083 A.D.
Translated by Weecan Helphitt,
Ancient Whines Without Reason, Cagliari, 1954

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 01:27 PM

And ***POOF*** goes your pathetic nonsense in a cloud of dust much like the dust clouds you witnessed as a child when your mom was copulating with the yak. And of course your earliest song memory as you know is Mommy singing to you, "That's what I call balling the yak"............But as far as your theory goes.......well, its gone!

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 12:58 PM

Even if I move for others reasons? I will need a job wherever I live, won't I? (Volgadon)...Yes.
And, yes, I equated capitalist with economic immigration/emigration myself, WSK.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:18 AM

"If I emigrated somewhere and got a job, would I be a capitalist imigrant?" (Volgadon)...yes - most, of course, would call that economic immigration/emigration but it is really, as I as, a hypothetical example of capitalist immigration/emigration."

Even if I move for others reasons? I will need a job wherever I live, won't I?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Joseph P
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:46 AM

on his website? If its there its gospel.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,We Subvert Koalas
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 04:49 AM

A search on Google for the term CAPITALIST IMMIGRATION throws up but one true hit - see HERE. Could it be by any chance that our transient all-singing, all-dancing Antipodean Anglophile has coined this term himself? If not, perhaps he'd be so good as to supply other instances where CAPITALIST IMMIGRATION is an accepted term of sociological / anthropological / economic (etc.) theory.

Could this be yet another instance of WAV smoke-screening his racism with bogus theory and banal euphemism? Remember, according to WAV, it is because of immigration that English culture is taking a hammering and, when people lose their own culture, society suffers.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 02:53 PM

Life ain't no yuk for a yak
Who carries his pack on his back
Whose progeny spouts hopeless crap
While Spaw refuse to try to to take a nap.





Hey! His doesn't scan. Why should mine?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 01:18 PM

...I think you've been on the catnip, again, Catspaw.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 08:37 AM

So that's why your Mommy left England? It paid more going down down under, so to speak..............Capitalist immigration/emigration huh?

Okay, well I can see that...............

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 05:22 AM

No, Catspaw, it's you that needs to shut your flap and take a nap - if people are permanently leaving a country for economic reasons (perhaps to "get rich") it is, in effect, capitalist emigration/immigration.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 03:26 PM

Wavymumbles says: "yes - most, of course, would call that economic immigration/emigration but it is really, as I as, a hypothetical example of capitalist immigration/emigration."

Say what?......... As you as?   Geeziz Dude......Not only does your poetry bite the big one, so does your prose.....a fact many others have noted here as well. You need to relax. Take a break from finding a sutable yak for your Mom and go practice fellatio on your recorder or pocket flute.......whatever........

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 02:00 PM

After all the pro-immigrationism of the Blair years, Stu, more-and-more MAINSTREAM politicians here are openly questioning immigration and the multicultural state.
"If I emigrated somewhere and got a job, would I be a capitalist imigrant?" (Volgadon)...yes - most, of course, would call that economic immigration/emigration but it is really, as I as, a hypothetical example of capitalist immigration/emigration.