The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: mandotim
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 03:32 PM

You'd be a 'macro, rather than a micro manager'; in other words, you haven't got a clue how to even make a start on shaping the world as you would wish it to be.
Just to show how wrong you usually are; there are at least 26 real tennis courts in England, and over 4,000 regular players. New ones have been constructed recently, and a number of old country houses are renovating courts that have fallen into disuse. If you can't get this right by doing some elementary research, why should we pay any regard to your equally poorly researched ideas on geopolitics?
Tim

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 02:19 PM

I have read the works, I want more information. Details, especially. Surely someone with your impressive qualifications would be able to provide them.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 01:56 PM

To be more precise, Volgadon, there are 2 "French imports" in the form of Real Tennis courts in merry England - 1 in London and 1 in "little London"/Newcastle upon Tyne; I'm yet to try either...anyone ever played French Real Tennis..?
From tennis to the other Tim: as I said when the matter of the UN came up on another thread, if things were to change radically and I became such a world-leader, I'd be a macro- NOT a micro-manager - leaving it to experts in their field to flesh-out the details of my big-picture.
Or could it be, Ruth, that such is the extent of AmericaniSation these days, it's even gotten/got to let's-keep-England's-end-up me?!...no such problem with the newly re-chalked Giant at Cerne Abbas, mind!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 11:56 AM

I want to know how come Wavey favours the very Americanised 'gotten' over the more Anglicized 'got'. Can it be that 'gotten' is also the preferred form in Australia, and that Wavey ain't quite as English as he thinks?

Ruth(from a still cookieless iPhone)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: mandotim
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 09:57 AM

Yes forkydorky, I know the UN should be one nation one vote; I asked you what you, in your omnipotence, propose to do about the fact that it isn't? How would the people of the whole world elect their representatives (given that western liberal democracy is by no means the most common form of government in the world)? More importantly, how would you ensure the legitimacy of all these representatives?Volgadon is right; there are no details in the 'works', just lots of half-baked and mostly racist idiocies.
Back up your ideas, or pipe down until you can.
Tim (still waiting for 'frank answers' on another thread.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 09:44 AM

I have read the works, I want more information. Details, especially. Surely someone with your impressive qualifications would be able to provide them. I'm willing to wait until you've finsihed watching that French import.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 09:05 AM

Tim - on another thread, folks, whether or not they also be forkies (confused newbies please see the "5000 Morris Dancers" thread), detailed some of the problems with the UN - which SHOULD be strictly one nation/one vote.
Volgadon - with all due respect, please spend half a day and read the works! for the details, while I watch the final rubber of the Davis Cup.
Yours frankly,
WAV the folkie/forkie tennis fan

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: mandotim
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 08:55 AM

Dear Academic Forklift Driver; please tell me who the regulators will be, and how I will get the chance to vote for or against them? You propose the UN as a regulator; this is an appointed, rather than elected body, with built in advantages for more prosperous or powerful nations. Not really a democrat, are you WAV? Fits with a lot of the totalitarian rubbish on other threads though. Alternatively, are you proposing wholesale reform of the UN too? Pray tell, how will you go about this, and what will your first steps be?
Tim (still waiting for answers to lots of other questions)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 06:51 AM

WAV, herein lies
the rub,
which regulations,
on what,
how much,
and
by whom.
Define for me inequality,
I do insist.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 05:05 AM

refresh.Why not...
Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 Sep 08 - 08:18 AM

Following the free-market farce of the last week, this week's
WEEKLY WALKABOUT, E.G. is...

Poem 105 of 230: GLOBAL REGULATIONISM

No income-scale would be unjust -
    It's a matter of degree;
And, to have less inequality,
    Regulations are a must.

For, in Millennium's status quo,
    The pay-gaps for human work,
And what's gotten simply as a perk,
    Are wrong - inhumanely so.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 01:03 PM

...thanks, Volgadon, etc., and, as it happens, I just recorded and copy/pasted a MaZlO over the MazloV on my Audacity recording software, today, so that's how it will be on the next CD I burn, or if I put it on myspace for a while, which I may do soon.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 11:33 AM

Volgadon hasn't posted on these matters because Volgadon was out of the country for a couple of weeks.
Maslow/v is down to spelling conventions. As has been pointed out, there is no 'w' in Russian, but a 'v'. It isn't as flat sounding as an English 'v'. HOWEVER, surnames ending with a 'v' should sound more like an 'f', because of the Russian tendency to soften endings. Taking Maslow, a surname deriving from the word for oil, it could be rendered properly as either Maslow, Maslov, or even Masloff. This would be fine if he were Russian, but as his parents emigrated, then the form chosen back then should be used.
Personally, I preffer 'v' as 'w' is too Polish and 'ff' too French.

Don, I would say the spelling was Polonicised! Huge number of Polish immigrants, that's why.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 03:31 PM

...at least that one hasn't been changed to "wot", yet!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: GUEST,Don Firth (computer still in the shop)
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 01:53 PM

What. . . !???

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 07:46 AM

THE WEEKLY WALKAOUT, E.G.

Poem 149 of 230: FOR BETTER OR WORSE

Largely due to America,
    English - to use Italian -
Is now the world's lingua franca,
    Where, it seems, it once was Latin;
But, while brogues are a good thing,
    I doubt American spelling.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 10:18 PM

Germanic language currently pronounces the letters V & W different to English... seems Old English was closer to modern German...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 09:21 AM

Further to Maslow, above, I just made a check of 2 library encyclopedias: one gave no mention; and the other spelt it as Maslow, and gave the pronunciation as MaZlO - thus, shortly I'll change my sites and my recording.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Sep 08 - 06:39 AM

THE WEEKLY WALKABOUT, E.G.

Poem 54 of 230: HOBSON'S CHOICE

During a day trip to Cambridge,
    My uncle showed the confined space
That left punters no choice to face -
    Using Hobson's trade of carriage.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 04:05 PM

...I wonder if he liked VW..?..I certainly enjoyed his 9th symphony on The Proms the other night.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 03:48 PM

I don't think this is an episode of Who Do You Think You Are...no matter how many generations ago his family may or may not have changed the spelling of their name, or how many Russian tennis players it takes to change a light bulb, it doesn't change the fact that you misspelt it.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 03:38 PM

...my headaches, OD, are nearly always caused by low sleep-hours...but then there's the Maslov/ws, who left W-less Russia (thanks Stu) for (V AND W) America and, it seems, became Maslows!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 03:37 PM

Perhaps he left England to get away from Olive Whatnoll. He would not be the first to have done so.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: olddude
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 03:19 PM

Spaw
Sick headache got any aspirin?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 03:15 PM

"And, as much as I enjoyed visiting Ireland, I, in turn, find it hard to understand why you and your repertoire left England..? "

Because he wanted to? Because it made him happy? For the same reasons that I and my lack of repertoire left new Jersey?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 03:11 PM

No, Captain Birdseye. You don't find them, nonsensical. You find them nonsensical.

(It's so much fun being a pedant....) ;-)

Do, you, follow, me?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 02:58 PM

Because some of the "Conclusions" in my "Walkabouts: travels and conclusions in verse" are heavily against the status quo, CB, I tried some introductory, frank, blank verse, in "0 - 19," to try and let people know "where I'm coming from" (here).
And, as much as I enjoyed visiting Ireland, I, in turn, find it hard to understand why you and your repertoire left England..?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 01:18 PM

WAV,You seem an affable cove.
I find your views on immigration, nonsensical.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 01:15 PM

There is no W in the Russian alphabet. Maslow was American. The pronunciation is Maslow.

Isaac Asimov chose to transliterate his name to end with a V. Maslow didn't.

The terminal consonant in these names in Russian is a labiodental voiced fricative. The pronunciation can vary from between close to a V to close to a W. It depends on the closeness of the lips to the teeth.

Russian Alphabet

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 12:55 PM

...I'm into tennis, S&R, but go through composers or any other Russians you may know of and there are many Vs, rather than Ws, yes?...Was his family name changed at some point from Maslov to Maslow..?...And, speaking of Vs, I'm a tad surprised Volgadon hasn't posted on this matter..?...But, either way, as I say, I'm going to check in the library before making changes.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: s&r
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 12:17 PM

Just another indefensible clanger WAV - just accept it's Maslow. He's not a Russian tennis player.

Do you think essential needs is a tautology?

And who needs poor food, poor clothes and no abode?

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 08:50 AM

...if you look, Ruth, I'm not the only one still questioning this matter (as I say, I began thinking of the Russian tennis players I konw of) but, after my visit to the local library, I probably will change it to Maslow, as you say.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 07:20 AM

Do you know what the funny thing is? I pointed out this rather minor factual innacuracy to see whether WAV would argue the toss - just to see whether,as I suspect, he really cannot bear to be wrong about ANYTHING.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 07:16 AM

His name was Maslow, WAV, no matter how you decide to pronounce it.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Joseph P
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 06:53 AM

So his name was Maslow? So why not change 'Maslov' to 'Maslow'? on phonetic grounds?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 05:47 AM

..if we put Maslov into Google, it does come up with Maslow; and if we put "pronounce Maslow" into the same place, it gives at least 4 opinions; and, to a tennis fan, both the spelling and the pronunciation still seem questionable - Dmitry TursunoV is among many players of Russian origin (he has actually lived in America for several years) with a V rather than a W in their name...for what it's worth, I intend to check my local library's encyclopedia before making changes.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Stu
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 05:28 AM

Featherstonehaugh = Fanshaw

Cholmondley = Chumley

I love these!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Joseph P
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 04:31 AM

Was Maslow the boke that got pissed before and during his public seminars? Or was that Herzberg? It was one of the business related theorists anyway.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 12:08 AM

Yeah.........I spell my name JABLONSKI but pronounce it JOE.

Spaw

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 02:57 PM

Caesar was pronounced "Kye-sar" by the Romans. (similar to the German word Kaiser).

Jesus name was most likely pronounced "Yeshua" in his own time.

These things all change as they move from place to place.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 02:42 PM

When I learned the theory (and indeed taught it at university level) it was pronounced Maslow. But that was in the UK.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 02:37 PM

That was all I was able to find, but further checking might be in order. I would assume that it might have been pronounced "Mas-lov" orginally in the "old country," but since he was born in the United States (one of those pesky immigrant families), it's quite likely that the pronunciation was Anglicised (or Americanised) to "Mas-low."

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 02:31 PM

Abraham Maslow

Re:   pronunciation, the consensus seems to be "Mas-low" rather than "Mas-lov."

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 02:16 PM

After your beer Don, or Ruth, could you confirm that it is pronounced "MaZloV" - if not I'll have to change it on my CD, as well as my site and book (and thanks for the correction, Ruth).

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 01:57 PM

I'm getting tired of trying to lead people out of the wilderness. I'm gonna go have a beer!

Moses

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 01:54 PM

"Have you pondered on the thought that most of the money given directly to beggars goes on drugs and alcohol?"

Yes, I have, but what worries me more is where the money given to bankers and politicians goes... ;-)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: olddude
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 11:30 AM

:-(
   I have a headache

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 11:07 AM

It was Abraham Maslow, not Maslov, who developed a theory on the heirarchy of needs.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: Joseph P
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 04:42 AM

'of all the trades in England a-begging is the best' or so they say!!

Have you pndered on the thought that most of the money given directly to beggars goes on drugs and alcohol?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout (part 2.)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 01:07 PM

...thanks heaps, Spaw!.............and there's not meant to be a space between the "Maslov" and the "good deeds" lines, by the way.