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BS: Who would you hire?

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Subject: BS: Who would you hire?
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 10:25 AM

MEMORANDUM

TO: Human Resources Team, United States Division

RE: Pending CEO Hiring Decision


With the national debt at historic proportions, multiple war fronts, insufficient access to health care, a weakened dollar, an all-time high prison population, skyrocketing Federal spending, serial mortgage crises and housing foreclosures, we face a timely hiring decision.

Let's first examine the educational attainment of our two choices.

Barack Obama
Occidental College - Two years undergraduate work
Columbia University - BA. Political Science with a specialization in international relations
Harvard Law School - Juris Doctor, Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden
University of Delaware - BA, History; BA, Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law, Juris Doctor

-or-

John McCain
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

Sarah Palin
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Questions? Comments?

Sincerely,



Your Search Committee


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 10:28 AM

Answer:

The one with the big tits!



Oh, sorry, must be the wrong joke...


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 10:31 AM

Sexist!


:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Alice
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 10:32 AM

It is sad that people who are very intelligent and educated in this country are disrespected by many voters - they want a C or D student to lead, like Dubya, so they can feel his is 'one of them'. There is a quote of Palin I read - that she got a D in economics in college.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 10:33 AM

I'm a naughty boy!   :-(


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 05:53 PM

It looks like Sarah has been to a lot more places, so the job must go to here. She obviously has more worldly experience.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:09 PM

I'd be more inclined to hire on a proven track record than education .... too much emphasis is put towards education .... many of the great innovators, leaders in history and even today do not have a university degree or if they did were mediocre students

On the other side of the coin many of the current bank, corporate (hell, even include U.S. political) disasters have been led to their demise by university grads of the most notable degree.

biLL


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:15 PM

Palin has been to many places? On the basis of the colleges that she - VERY briefly - attended?

Did you know that she and her entourage bruited about the notion that on her trip to Kuwait and Germany last month she visited Ireland? Turns out her plane landed for refueling at an Irish airport.

Did you know that she was thrilled to meet Ivana Trump because "Alaskans are so starved for culture"? This is one deep thinker.

Did you know that she is about as religious as a person can be- not only religious, Rig, but steeped in the deepest superstitions one can find in organized Christianity?

Face it, you just like her looks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:15 PM

Well, I've hired a lot of people my gut instincts didn't want me to hire. My gut instincts were almost always right, but the bosses wanted them hired.

Oh, but this is another Sarah Palin thread.....

Well, my gut instincts tell me not to hire Palin, McCain, or Biden. Not sure about Obama. I still think Hillary is the best choice, and Obama would be a good understudy.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:24 PM

Well ... if we're looking at it that way .... I'd bypass Human Resources altogether (such a useless petty department anyway) and interview what I feel would be the 2 best candidates for a country in dire need of a drastic change and shakeup ... Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader.

biLL :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:32 PM

"Face it, you just like her looks."


                   Well, I mean, she is a woman, and...


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:35 PM

Yo, Alice,

There is a reason that Bush has never fully funded "No Child Left Behind"...

Dumb voters = Repub victories...


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:38 PM

Yo, Rigs,

Yeah, she is a hottie.... Dead ringer fir my high school sweetie, Diane Willson... She was so hot... Prolly still is...

Yeah, I'd vote fir Diane Willson for president in a heartbeat...

(But, Boberdz... Diane was an airhead...)

Well, nobody's perfect...


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:41 PM

Well Biden is an airhead too, but he doesn't seem to have anything else going for him either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:50 PM

Perhaps when you look at him you are seeing the reflection of yourself?


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:54 PM

Biden has an IQ on the plus side of "normal", Rigs...

Palin, if you heard her this evening trying to defend her foriegn policy experience, is like in the mid 80's...

And that, sadly, is the way it is...


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 08:03 PM

Now, let's first examine the educational attainments of another worthy applicant for the job.

Chongo Chimp

School of Hard Knocks - entire life from birth to present

Fieldwork in Africa - 16 years in jungle and savannah, living off the land, fending off predators, Africans and White Hunters, avoiding violent death, engaging in interspecies dialogue

Maritime Academy - transatlantic service on tramp steamer from West Africa to New York, 1928

Stevedore & Shoeshine - 1 year in New York City, lower East Side, 1928-29

Bodyguard - 1 year, New York City, 1930

Freelance Private Investigator - 1931 to present in New York City and Chicago, fighting crime, improving the neighborhood, engaging in interspecies dialogue with lowlifes and hoods, upholding the law, defending liberty, justice, and freedom for all.

Well read - has read everything written by Raymond Chandler as well as most of the Sam Spade books and related literature.

Experienced drink taster - is a self-taught expert and connoiseur of virtually all the better brands of hard liquor.

Martial Arts Master - First Degree Black Belt in Kree-Gah, Ichi-Kichi-Koo, and Lapp Goche.

Founder and leader of the American Primate Party, America's first inter-species political party ever.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 08:21 PM

Dang You're starting to make a believer of me, Little Hawk.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: gnu
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 09:03 PM

An 80 year old chimp? When is... nevermind.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 09:21 PM

"Perhaps when you look at him you are seeing the reflection of yourself?"


                      Not possible! If I looked like that I'd...
Well, I'm still alive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 01:16 AM

LOL! Look, if you're going to complain about that, Rig, complain about McCain.

Gnu, Chongo's chronological age is indeed surprising. I understand that his youthfull appearance and vitality is due to a secret elixir that he imbibed in the Congo in his youth. He will not reveal its nature or location. In fact, he says it's probably lost forever.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Teribus
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 01:45 AM

You have the choice of two educated in law as opposed to two eductated in life - if you don't want to get screwed don't go with the lawyers


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 08:45 AM

What's the definition of lawyer?

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The larval form of a politician.



biLL :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 09:10 AM

Can I be Chongo's lawyer?

I've always wanted to lawy...
(say out loud with correct accent, or you won't get it)...


:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:26 PM

I suspect that McCain has had the same one year's experience many many times. Look at his voting record.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Joe_F
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 09:28 PM

Ronald Reagan, when presented with economic projections in current dollars & constant dollars, had to have the difference explained to him, every time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Gurney
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 06:14 PM

Nothing to do with me, of course, but an outsiders view...
McCain if obviously a man who puts his arse where he sees his duty as being, and...

I am deeply suspicious of people who sit political science at university when there are so many other enthralling degrees available.
Such as accountancy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Gurney
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 06:16 PM

..IS obviously...


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 06:18 PM

I see the problem being that he frequently puts his arse where his brains should be.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 08:49 PM

Anyone who would want to be president at a time like this is pretty clearly somewhat deranged.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 11:27 PM

The reason Bush never fully got behind the "no child left behind" program is because it would force him to return to the third grade.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 11:30 PM

"Ronald Reagan, when presented with economic projections in current dollars & constant dollars, had to have the difference explained to him, every time."


                   I wonder if they had to use teaching aids, like wooden blocks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 12:21 AM

Possibly. ;-) Chongo claims that his old Hollywood buddy Bonzo was far better at comprehending the script and acting his part than Ronnie was.

Bonzo, however, was never elected president. There was no possibility of cracking the bamboo ceiling back then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 02:08 AM

Who elected all these dunces anyway??

I know!!!......what we need is an electorate composed of pseudo-intellectuals....That should get our man into office!


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 02:36 AM

Ake, the American public can only (in effect) vote for the specific few front men that the ruling $ySStem prepicks and puts in front of them to vote for. This excludes anyone who is likely to change anything basic or fundamental in America. The odds against a genuine reformer even being nominated in the first place to run for either the Democrats or Republicans are astronomical.

Therefore, is it entirely fair to blame the public themselves? I don't think so. The public is not in control of the process.

There is the odd maverick and genuine reformer in the party $ySStem...such as Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul...because no huge political party can prevent a few genuine reformers from rising through its ranks one way or another...but those guys are easily screened out of reaching the top spot (presidency) by the mainstream media and the major financial funding sources of the ruling $ySStem.

They are not given enough money to have a real chance, and most of all, they are NOT given sufficient endorsement and coverage by mainstream media to have a real chance.

Thus they do get to talk, of course, but the public in general simply doesn't hear them.

Add to this the fact that genuine reform scares most people, because it's unfamiliar and seems risky, and the majority of voters will go for the more comforting and less scary homogenized messages that they get through the handpicked candidates the $ySStem itself has decided to promote...through the aforementioned mainstream media and the parties themselves.

This isn't so much a public that is stupid as a public that is simply being lied to and manipulated and controlled by a compliant media that is in service of the ruling $ySStem, which is to say: the richest 1 or 2% of the population.

It's a closed loop.

The public can't choose what they barely get to even hear about on their TVs...because they don't know enough about it.

They will choose between a handful of massively promoted $ySStem puppets, because THOSE are the people they will hear about on a daily basis, in a barrage of propaganda.

Since the $ySStem controls both major parties, and the mainstream media outlets, the $ySStem wins every election, and the public loses.

Do the parties each want to win? YES! Definitely. There are perks to being the one who wins and takes office. And they will do anything they can to win...so there is a genuine struggle going on for who gets the vote...McCain or Obama...but it doesn't matter to the $ySStem, because the $ySStem can readily control either McCain or Obama after they are elected. (Someone who can't be controlled ends up dead, to put it bluntly.)

I have no idea which one of them, McCain or Obama, the $ySStem would prefer to win this time, and I would prefer it were Obama....but nonetheless, the $ySStem will still be in control after the election is over, just like they were before it started.

This is not a case of a stupid public so much as it is a case of a public who have been rendered utterly helpless in the face of a 2-Party Duopoly that is controlled from the top down and marketed through the mainstream media in the most lengthy and ludicrous soap opera-like election process in the world.

It's insane. It's almost beyond belief. It seems to be unstoppable. I have no solution. Neither would I have had any solution to dealing with the Roman Empire in its latter days...for example.

One simply has to live through these times, do what one can, and hope for the best.

Europe would be wise to seek united strength among themselves and look to their own future in an independent fashion, and so would Asia and the other parts of the world.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 04:33 AM

I know, my friend.

I just wish some of the Dem cheerleaders had your insight...Ake


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: freda underhill
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 05:17 AM

John McCain is a lifelong gambler. Is that who should be in charge of the US economy right now?


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 09:59 AM

"I know!!!......what we need is an electorate composed of pseudo-intellectuals....That should get our man into office!"


                Actually, if the average voter would simply go to the trouble to inform himself/herself about what's going on, we would be much better off than we are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 12:04 PM

Rig....It was a little joke!
Please read Hawks post.We should all print it out and stick up on the wall to stop us participating in the Obama/ McCain madness.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 01:11 PM

Oh, I see...   And it is madness!


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 01:50 PM

It's a game. A really big game. We, the public, are just spectators, willing or unwilling. Some of us buy an expensive ticket and go to the game because we believe in it enough to root for one of the teams. Others simply walk by the stadium, listen to the roar of the crowd echoing through the towering walls of the Coliseum, shake their heads, and walk on...

The odd thing about the tickets to this game, though, is that everyone must buy one. You end up paying regardless of whether or not you have any wish to participate in the process. Those who participate more enthusiastically may pay a bit more in some cases in order to get better seats, but everybody pays. It's unavoidable.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 01:55 PM

"Ronald Reagan, when presented with economic projections in current dollars & constant dollars, had to have the difference explained to him, every time."

So what is the difference? For once I find myself at one with Regan.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 02:01 PM

Same problem here. ;-D What is a "constant" dollar?


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 06:34 PM

"Current dollars" are prices as quoted in dollar units paid at a particular time. Say that in 2000 a gidget cost $2.00, and the same brand and quality gidget costs $3.00 today. Those are current-dollar figures. In constant dollars, a gidget costs 50% more.

But let's say that there has been 50% inflation since then. In order to compare the actual cost of a gidget there has to be adjustment by 50%. Thus, in constant dollars the 2000 price would be $3.00 today. The effect is that gidgets are the same cost today as they were in 2000, when expressed in constant dollars.

The same sort of computation needs to be made in order to compare the size of a national budget at some remote time to the national budget today.

Simple.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Gurney
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 06:41 PM

A constant dollar loves you and stays with you through thick and thin.
A current dollar is only with you for the sex.

Or am I thinking of something else.


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 10:01 AM

I goofed in my post yesterday. In the last sentence of the first paragraph, it should refer to "current dollars", not constant.

Thus, "In current dollars, a gidget costs 50% more."

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Who would you hire?
From: GUEST,Old Terry
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 09:25 AM

Well if America were a democracy instead of a republic run by big business and corrupt public officials. If they had lifetime voter registration, compulsory voting to get the public off their fat collective arse, citizen initiated referendum I'd vote for Michael Dukakis.


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