Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK July/Aug 2009

Subject: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn tour UK 24/7-
From: Barry Finn
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 08:16 PM

Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-?/? as Finn & Laddie
(Could a mudelf or Joe Offer complete the title, please, thanks)

Finn & Haddie (www.FinnAndHaddie.com) & (www.MySpace.com/FinnAndHaddie) has been invited to perform at the Scarborough Seafest (http://www.seafest.org.uk/) on July 24 -26. Since our invite my singing partner Neil has had some family medical issues come up he can't make this. Ken Schatz, who I've enjoyed singing with in the past (http://www.kenschatz.com), a mudcatter and New York shanty singer extraordinaire and I will be performing together instead as Finn & Laddie & likely we (Neil & I) will be having Ken by our sides much more often in the future. We'll hopefully be staying longer than just the weekend of the festival but we need some help getting some paying spots so that we can tour & eat.
Our concentration musically will be the singing mostly of sea music (leaning towards songs influenced by sailors of color) & prison worksongs but as anyone who knows us will say that our repertoire is wide, vast & rare. Hopefully we can get down to Swansea to visit & sing with more than a few friends there, we'll see.
What we were hoping for is that UK mudcatters could help us get spots singing at various venues so we can extend & afford our stay. We're poor, so we sing for supper, board, rides & especially money. I'm hoping that US mudcatters & others in the UK that know us & what we do will pipe up/in with some words of recommendation so those in the UK who don't know us will get an idea of who & what we are & what we do (thanks all you friends, checks will be forwarded). We are both strong & passionate singers & engagingly rousing presenters with a rare repertoire that is assured to please & tickle the fancy of most & encourage even the shyest of singers to bellow.
Our planned dates are somewhere just prior to the Seafest anywhere between July 21st (Tuesday) to the 23rd (Thursday) and depending if we get any spots we'll stay till around either the very end of July or very early August.   


Thanks for any & all help
Barry Finn

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Well, from the thread, all I can figure is July/Aug 2009 - hope that's OK. -Joe-

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: kendall
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 08:43 PM

Good for you! UK, Batten down the hatches!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 08:48 PM

Barry's voice can fill a room and Ken is no slouch either. This will be a fun pair to see. Enjoy!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 08:49 PM

I am insanely jealous.

It is just not fair that you two are going OVER THERE to do this! No stateside tour? Our beds and breakfasts aren't enough for you? Two of my favorite singers TOGETHER... across the pond.

Words fail me...

Dani

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 08:51 PM

OK, my snit's over.

I'm going to see Joe Stead here in Durham (that's the NC-USA Durham) next week, shall I drop your names for when he gets home?

Dani

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: DebC
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 09:22 PM

Hi Barry,

I just confirmed the seafest so i'll see you both over there!

Deb

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 09:44 PM

Barry - and Ken - that sounds wonderful.....would be a treat to be able to see you.

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: SussexCarole
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 03:20 AM

Sorry to hear than Neil can't make the trip - but it will be great to see Dan over here with you. You're welcome to board & lodge with us for as long as you want and we're looking out for singing venues. We'll organise a sing down here with your many Welsh friends as soon as we know your schedule

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Barry Finn
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 06:28 AM

That's Ken, Carole, Dan's brother. I know, they're both cute & great singers, it's just hard to tell them apart.
Thanks for the offer & for keeping an eye out for us, much appricated

Deb C, that's great, it's always great fun to be in your company

Hi Dani, you can mention us but he'll probably have no notion of who we are. I'm not available, don't give him my phone number.

Barry

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: GUEST,SussexCarole
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 07:10 AM

Ooops sorry, Ken it is (Gracie strikes again)

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: jacqui.c
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 07:36 AM

I'll most likely be in the UK for part of the time you'll be there! I'm looking forward to seeing your itinerary once you've got your gigs lined up.

Now, if you get a chance to see these guys - GO! They are just the best so far as songs of the sea are concerned.

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: My guru always said
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 07:51 AM

Well Barry, I'm really hoping to get to see you at some point while you're over here! So sorry that Neil can't come but glad you'll have Ken with you!

I'll put feelers out to my local clubs to see if we can get you a club bookings or two, though our area is towards the south of the UK & quite a way from Carole & Andrew. Please keep us up to date here with the dates you get booked up so we can try to fit in if the dates & distance are feasible.

I'd recommend these guys, lets see if we can sort them a good tour!!
Hil

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Charley Noble
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 07:56 AM

Barry-

As we say in Maine, "Finest kind!"

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, out the door on his own great trek

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 08:17 AM

I will be making the journey down from Scotland to see you, Barry.

( And talking of Scotland, Scotland is part of the UK, so do feel free to seek gigs up here :-)

Seeing Deb again will be an added bonus ...

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 01:01 PM

Both members of Finn and Laddie are "not to be missed" performers. Barry has been performing sea chanties across the NorthEast for many years. He is also a fine singer of prison work songs. Ken has also been very active in the NorthEast with a focus on prison work songs.

I especially support their work with prison songs, a traditional genre that is under performed in the US.

I have heard them perform together in informal situations and in addition to their skills and knowledge they have a warm cameraderie. I wish them both well in this tour.

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Nancy King
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 01:03 PM

Hoo ha! Wish I could come on this trip with you!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 01:06 PM

Oh, he's far cuter. Go hear them! Enjoy!

Dan

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Banjiman
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 01:14 PM

Barry,

Not sure I can help you with any paying gigs (we shut KFFC over the summer) in the timescale you are in the UK but we are booked at Seafest as well (as you know, I think!).

However if you are short of somewhere to stay while you are here, just let me know, we'll find you a bed and supper, no problem. You would be very welcome at Burneston Folk Club on the Wednesday night..... but they don't do paying gigs, it's purely a singaround though I could see if we could get you a longer spot if you want (but they still won't pay you!).

The Burneston organiser will be around here later tonight, so let me know if this is of any use to you. We could pass the hat round I guess.

Cheers

Paul

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: My guru always said
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 04:26 PM

'Bout time we had the links on this thread even if they're about Barry & Neil rather than Barry & Ken, or even Barry, Neil & Ken!

Finn & Haddie's web-page

Finn & Haddie's myspace

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 08:07 PM

Oh, I don't think it's a matter of any cuter, honey. Your mama done good all around : )

Dani

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Nancy King
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 09:52 PM

Aw, thanks, Dani...

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: MMario
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 09:23 AM

Dani may have got over her snit - but I'm pitching one. Holy crow; these two are going to throw off enough energy to light up most of the UK!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 10:08 AM

Ooh, this sounds fantastic - it would be great to see you Barry (and with Ken too), for as you know Fathom This has been a big favourite with me.
As for bookings etc, well summer can be a bit sparse with several clubs not booking guests over the season or even closing altogether, but I'll put some feelers out. I wish I were able to come to Scarborough SeaFest and see you, but I've never managed to get a booking there! - so do keep us posted re your schedule and I'll try to ensure we meet up somewhere somehow.
Good luck!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Barry Finn
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 06:17 PM

Thanks all for the kind words & thanks to all you who are putting out feelers on our behalf, we'd love to make our stay as musical & magical as possible.

Here's a link to Ken's web site

Hi Banjiman, I looked but I didn't see you at the Seafest site but I'm sure you're not there as Banjiman & thanks for the heads-up about
Burneston Folk Club, where is that? If we're not doing something for pay on the Wednesday night & it's a place we can get to we'd love to be there providing it's in our time frame (which at the moment is way up in the air).

Jacqui, let me know when you'll be over.

Hey Murrary, it be great to see & hear you again, I'm honored that you'll be coming down to greet us. We'll have to have some songs together & please feel free to look about your area for gigs for us if you have any connections. We will go were the gigs/food/beds especially where the money is.

Thanks Moorley Man, glad you're enjoying the CD, where abouts are you? Hopefully we can cross paths while we're there

I'll up date this as we go
Thanks to ecverybody

Barry

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Barry Finn
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 02:06 AM

Time for a refresh

Ken & I will be flying in (swimming was just out of the question at my age) to Manchester on Thursday the 23rd of July & we're hoping that 2Black Sheep & a Stallion are up for the Thrusday evening at the Black Swan later that night, they've kindly offered to look after us until the Seafest where a least it seems that 2/3rds of them will be performing there. Then we'll be off to the Scarborough Seafest where we'll also see, meet & hear mudcatters Captain Birdseye & good friend Deb C who'll also be doing the Seafest. From there we'll most likely be heading down towards Llangollen where Carole & Andrew plan on showing us an aquaduct that we can surf in, behind canal boats & hopefully far behind the horse's ass. My first experience at ever seeing an aquaduct. I'm threatening to sing the "Erie Canal" if I'm not allowed to bath in it. Course that might be unhealthy for the horses (or are they mules? You got mukes in the UK?) that tow the boats if they drink from it. Ken will fly back out of Manchester that Tuesday morn & leave me & Carole & Andrew to make our way to the Bull's Bay Festival in Anglesey, Wales, from July 31st to August 2nd
(festival link here; Bull's Bay fest). Where Carole & Andrew are on the list as well as me. From there I hope to see a bit of the Swansea area & then I should probably start to make my way towards Manchester to fly back on Wednesday the 5th of August. Doesn't seem like it'll be long enough but I figure I'm just lucky to have this much time. The last time I was in this part of the world was around 25 yrs ago when I went to Ireland. I don't get out much.
The thing I'm most excited about is visiting your folk clubs. I've been hearing about them for ages from friends & espically here on Mudcat & it sounds so different from what we have here in the States that I can't even visualize what it's like there, except from the bits that I hear. And Carole & Andrew have very graciously offered to make sure that get to one as well as see some of their countryside. Thanks to you both.

If any mudcatters will be near abouts where we are we're hoping you'll cross our paths & speak up & say hi.

Thanks & hopefully we'll be seeing some of you

Hey Murry, will you still be able to make it down from the North to the Seafest? Would be good to see & sing with you & Deb again. Even though Deb & I aren't far from each other we don't get a chance to see each other to often & even get the chance less to sing together, go figure. I believe she'll be making her way down to

Barry

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Barry Finn
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 02:13 AM

I hit the submit button before being done

as I was starting to say before I so rudely inturpted myself. I believe Deb Cowen will be making her way down to Broadstairs where she's also on the list to perform. Deb, maybe well cross wakes as we wander, we'll talk at the Seafest.

ok, I can hit submit now

Barry

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: kendall
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 06:26 AM

Thats ok, I'll just hang around here in boring old Maine.sniff. Just me and the dog (if Mary lets me have him) sniff.

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: jacqui.c
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 08:53 AM

I'll do my bestest to catch up with you, possibly at Scarborough. if my daughter's itinerary allows it.

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: DebC
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 11:01 AM

Kendall, I do hope we see you on July 11 at Sinsulls.

Boring old Maine my patootie!

Deb

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 01:43 PM

Looks like we won't get to meet while you're over Barry, there's no way we can get to any of your itinery. But I know you'll have lots of fun, especially surfing on the Llangollen aquaduct!!!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 03:12 PM

John Warner's lovely song "Telford's Bridge" is listed in this thread (posted by Charley Noble).

I've only just noticed this thread, Barry. I will try to get to Scarborough for Seafest weekend. Are you anywhere within reach of Fleetwood, Lancashire? (Opposite side from Scarborough, but only about fifty miles from Manchester).You would be most welcome at Fleetwood Folk Club at the Steamer, Dock Street (http://www.myspace.com/fleetwoodfolkclub) Thursday nights. There's also a small but perfectly formed song and music session at Preston Folk Club at the Moorbrook, Garstang Road, Preston on Friday nights (but I think your Fridays are spoken for!)

All the best for the trip.

Ross

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Banjiman
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 03:31 PM

Hi Barry,

We'll see you at The Black Swan on the 23rd (very kind of you to make the time to come and see us perform) has Stallion arranged with Roland for you to do a floor spot?)

Thenwe'll see you all w/e at Seafest when we'll all be able to watch each other perform!

We're really looking forward to meeting you.

Paul & Wendy

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Jul 09 - 09:03 PM

Barry-

You and Ken will have a grand time and we expect a full report, with pictures, when you get back.

I do hope you get out to the end of Gowan Peninsular to view the giant worm, not to mention the standing stones. And a real canal boat ride is a life experience, especially if your canal boat is cruising over a valley several hundred feet below.

But we'll be seeing you this Saturday in Bath, Maine, at the Maine Maritime Museum in Bath, assuming you remember that you're booked for a concert.

Cheerily,
Charley noble

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Barry Finn
Date: 07 Jul 09 - 12:08 AM

I don't know where Fleetwood, Lancashire is & I doubt that I'll be getting near it Ross, so I do hope to meet you & Banjiman.

Banjiman I don't know if we're going to the Black Swan, that'll ret with the horse & sheep crowd, give 'em a nudge. We'd be happy to do a foor spot but just as happy to be in a English folk club, finally & see what all the fuss is about.

Kendall, you've been in boring old Maine long enough, that dog must consider you a keeper & it thinks you've been well kept. Maybe you'd better reconsider & join Jacgui in the UK

Ross, please remind me of the CW-9 song (merchant vessels at war), with your fondness for tin can sailor songs I think you'd love this.

Charley, I well remember my dates but thanks anyway. I will have my daughters camera so I'll be taking pictures. I taken dives off bridges but never have I swam on one.

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 07 Jul 09 - 12:37 AM

if you are going on the LLangollen canal / aquaduct - well, it is quite something--we travelled it on a canalboat when my son, now 20 was about 4 and I remember holding onto him like grim death because the aquaduct was very high and narrow and he had no sense of self preservation.........

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: SussexCarole
Date: 07 Jul 09 - 01:27 PM

If Barry really intends to surf across the aquaduct we'll be in the narrow boat in front of him making the waves and taking the pics - they should be worth a fortune!   Anyone for vertigo?

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Busy Lizzie
Date: 07 Jul 09 - 01:43 PM

This is all so exciting! Can't wait to meet you Barry! Oh and it is the 'BULL BAY FESTIVAL!'

I'll also update my website as soon as I can it is a little out of date, but my link will be;

Liz's website

Look forward to seeing you all!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Barry Finn
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 03:17 AM

To tell the truth with my bum feet I can no longer surf or water ski but if you can just throw me a tow rope I might be able to manager to do some bottom fishing using the diving deep trawl method.
Hopefully I'll be able to hang on to my suit, don't want to scare off the little fishies.

Thanks for the link Lizzie, no wonder they call you busy. I'm looking forward to meeting you too. I think it'll be an honor.

Trubrit & Carole, my whole adult like has been on high, vertigo, not likely but I have an awful bad habit of falling off of high places & surviving, I should be afraid.

Barry

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 10:48 AM

Enjoy Scarborough, I have many many happy memories of the place after living there for a number of years. I have family there but sadly can't make it up for the festival this year due to other committments.

Safe journey!

Khatt

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: olddude
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 12:44 PM

Barry
can you post some music for the rest of us to hear? Do you have a link so we can enjoy the music for those of us that cannot get to see you perform?

Dan

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Busy Lizzie
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 02:11 PM

I am getting to hear some good things about you too Barry! See you in a few weeks!

And yes I am busy, will update website SOOOOON!!!!

ps enjoy the LLangollen canal thing it IS scary!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 16 Jul 09 - 12:01 AM

really REALLY scarey......

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:55 AM

Time for a refresher!

When do you boys fly off from the States or are you rowing?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Busy Lizzy
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 08:38 AM

WEBITE DULY UPDATED! And I do have an Anglesy festival thread running on here which is worth a look in! Do feel free to add your five penneth!!

Liz's website for Bull Bay info...

Bull Bay Music Festival, Anglesey - is the thread!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: stallion
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 02:04 PM

soon boyz

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: GUEST,John from Elsie`s Band
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 04:43 PM

Barry,
      It sounds as if your tour in the North precludes any chance of us meeting again since we are in the deep South East, but, if by any chance you are down our way don`t hesitate to call on 01732 762224. I`m sure you will be looked after splendidly by our friends up there.
                                           All the Very Best.
                                                 John

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Barry Finn
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 05:59 PM

Thanks John. We will be in Wales, Swansea & the Bull Bay fest but I gather that's a good distance. I will have your number with me just in case. Thanks.

No rowing involved. I'll leave by bus for NYC after the Tues eveing shanty session in Gloucester & meet up with Ken Wednesday. Then we fly to Manchester & arrive mid morning on Thrusday. After that it's festival time

Barry

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: My guru always said
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 11:17 AM

Safe journey you Two! Have a Fab Time!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: jacqui.c
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 11:53 AM

I've got my weekend pass for Scarborough and the offer of accommodation so it looks as if I'll get there!

Subject: RE: Ken Schatz & Barry Finn to tour UK 24/7-
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 03:17 PM

Thanks Hillary, sorry we won't meet up but we'll see you in Portsmouth soon enough

That's great news Jacqui

I'm just about out the door & heading to the shanty session in Gloucester, then to pick up the 2:00 Chinatown bus in Boston headed for NYC.
I'll try to post when I can, I'll return

Barry