Excellent Mudcat parody

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 09:20 AM

jacqui, you know I love you, and I am so glad you married that beloved old coot and came to Amerikay. But if you are to be a proper Yank, you must, my dear, drop that English reserve and learn to say what's on your mind!! We are a loudmouthed, uncouth lot, and usually say what's on our minds over here. So enough with the English reserve, ok, sweetie?

Kendall, could I have the loan of a pry bar? I must dislodge my aul tongue from my cheek. Seems to be stuck in there rather well.

Mick

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Steve
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 09:19 AM

Excellent - why is it that some people just cant have a good laugh. Get a life and dont read the thread!!!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: TheSnail
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 09:18 AM

>b>Captain Birdseye

Snail,No ,because Ive never accused anyone of lacking a sense of humour.

Lighten up, Captain. Did you follow the link? I was just suggesting that the word "fascist" was a teensy-weensy bit inappropriate in the context of this thread.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 09:18 AM

rather tired

I'm extremely tired of tiny minds that can't even spell W - I - D - E - R    I - S - S - U - E - S.

But those who want to snigger their way to oblivion unable to recognise how much needs to be done to rescue and improve the status of the tradarts, so be it.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 09:12 AM

ok, Boss.I promise to obey your orders.
sorry youdidnt enjoy Groucho and Syd,but I wont censure you for that we are all entitled to a different sense of humour.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 09:11 AM

jacqui c.
Thumbs up from me.
Well said.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: jacqui.c
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 09:02 AM

Greg - thanks for the thread - both Kendall and I enjoyed the parody a great deal. I reckon that there is stuff there that we haven't yet found and that we will have more laughs at this brilliant piece of work for some time yet.

Ms Easby and Captain Birdseye - why don't you just stop reading the thread, rather than looking down your noses or bringing in grievances which have nothing to do with the subject? I, for one, am getting rather tired of your attitudes, which spoil so many interesting threads, which then can become so boring that I stop reading them. Go away and let us lesser mortals enjoy these things without your censure.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 09:02 AM

BIG MICK...
Bit of a a bugger that one ....only 2 vowels, and they're both "I's"
Naaaa... nothing pops into my perview...Name change perhaps?

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:57 AM

Snail,No ,because Ive never accused anyone of lacking a sense of humour.
I said I didnt find something funny,all that means,is that my sense of humour is different from Ralphs.
if other people dont find Groucho OR Ramblin Syd funny,Idont accuse them of lacking a sense of humour.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:56 AM

I love the parody, and am enjoying this thread immensely. Like Diane, I am shite at anagrams. I tried the anagram generators to create one for meself, no luck on any of them.

Virtual pint for the most creative one for "Big Mick".

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:54 AM

Kenneth Williams?
Well, whatever floats your boat.
And the relevance to this thread is?????

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:52 AM

I woke this morning believing I had found the link to the Borfolk page with the A.L. Lloyd reference - complete with a brilliant illustration of Ian A. making the announcement. I was going to go straight downstairs and do a blue clicky for Richard Mellish, when it dawned on me that I had found it while I was asleep - it was just a creation by my fevered subconscious.

But you never know - sometimes people dream things up and then they appear as if by magic.

pi toes

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:51 AM

now that is funny Ramblin SydRumpo.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dct_VJNLvAk

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: TheSnail
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:45 AM

Captain Birdseye

are you a humour fascist?

Tan-ta-ra-ta-ra-TAAAAAAAA!

Its that Godwin's Law moment!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:42 AM

Greg Me old mucker.
It's been a very pleasant thread, and thanks for pointing us all in the Mud-E-Ceilidh direction.
It's a shame that two participants didn't get the joke!
(The creator of the original website is loving the reaction BTW.)
I now look forward to the updates.
Just off for a pint with Old Vermin....It's his round!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: kendall
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:41 AM

This is very clever. I'm into parodies and puns.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Vic Smith
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:33 AM

Greg,
If you go to @displaysong.cfm?SongID=521 you will find a song that is really suitable for a person who has an anagram of his name works out as Spent Her Eggs

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:17 AM

Absolutely great!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: greg stephens
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 08:10 AM

Well, I started this thread to draw attention to an amusing, clever and modern parody of Mudcat, which most folkies have obviously greastly enjoyed. Whether certain people found Borfolk cartoons in Southern Rag amusing thirty years ago, but not now, is sort of vaguely interesting. But not hugely relevant
love and peace
Pert Hens'Eggs xx

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 07:59 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5MjzGyKmiw&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5MjzGyKmiw&feature=related
now this is what I call funny.
Ralphie you are very good at telling myself and Diane what to do,and what we should laugh at,are you a humour fascist?
you must laugh at Borfolk or else.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 07:29 AM

Mr Smith of Lewes isn't (in common with others) following the thread. I already made that point two days ago:

It was less antagonistic to do the rounds of ultra-left splinter groups (or warring born-again christian sects - probably, but I wouldn't really know, not having tried any, not even ISB-scientology . . . )

I went on to mention that I took to writing instead. That (as I'm sure I've mentioned before) is why I don't "join" anything, nor indeed perform (much). It's unethical for a necessarily outside observer to do so. But I have been everything, from all sides of all fences, for a very long time. That's why I "bother" to be concerned about extraordinarily hostile and/or self-deprecating attitudes of the English towards the music I have grown up with since my grandfather first taught me in the early 1950s. It's what aspects of the revival has done that I pour scorn on. I am, of course, only assuming but I think L Heath's wake-up call is the same as mine. Laughing at Borfolk is all very well, as long as the crucial need to improve standards and working conditions is not lost in irrelevant guffaws.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 07:17 AM

Vic Old Bean.
Never has a truer word been spoken.
Onwards Mon Brave..!
Now.....back to the point of this thread.
The Vermin Divided, will never be United!
(hopefully)

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Will Fly
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 07:13 AM

Vic - you are indeed having success - and more than just some. Those of us who attend your club, either regularly or from time to time, can only applaud your determination and dedication - while continuing to have a good old belly laugh at Borfolk, Mud-E Ceilidh and all the stuff that Greg brought to our notice in this thread.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Vic Smith
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 07:06 AM

Well said Ralph! If the folk scene is truly as bad as Diane constantly portrays it, why on earth does she bother with it at all? If one believes something is truly awful and incapable of remedy, then abandon it and get involved in something that does give you pleasure.

As a young man I was very involved in British left-wing politics. The internecine in-fighting of the various very small groups had to be experienced to be believed. I soon realised that these factions were going nowhere so I turned my back on them.

And this is where another parody comes in! There are some sections in The Life of Brian where the British Left is parodied as the various Judean liberation movements. I laughed hugely at these whilst realising that they were very close to the truth.

The British folk scene is riddled with hopeless amateurs and characters who do not realise how laughable they are; that is indisputable BUT the movement still stands as one of the viable alternatives to the mainstream music industry whose methods and products I loathe heartily. For that reason, I shall stick with the folkies and continue to try to present that music I love in an acceptable and vibrant way as I possibly can. The numbers attending the weekly folk club that I run suggest that I am having some success.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 07:02 AM

Sorry - should have signed that off properly.

Surgery Siren

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Surreysinger
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 07:01 AM

Thin Seal ... that's so much nicer than the usual gastropod!

Thee Silenter

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Shat Nile
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 06:54 AM

No, I meant Ay dropy (in oor eee).

Craneberry

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 06:46 AM

Don't you mean Rapody?

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Thin Seal
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 06:40 AM

This thread has passed beyond parody.

Ran Cry Beer

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 06:34 AM

Diane.
What on earth are you talking about???
It's just a bit of fun.
I've failed to make a living at playing music too. Am I bovvered...?
No, I'm not.
But, I'll carry on losing money, because most of the people I encounter are very pleasant.
Just lighten up a bit will you?
(that applies to Dick Miles too)

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 05:57 AM

Spaw, not sure it's fair to make all these drug references to Spacy Inebriated or Acidtrip Bans Eye or whatever he's called.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 04:01 AM

Summarised above is the scenario of the very first Borfolk. And nothing's changed on the English landscape 30 years on, other than that there's now an additional coterie of smugness and self-congratulatory, insular mediocrity right here on t'internet, hence the lampooning Mud e-ceilidh.

As mentioned before, Lawrence Heath's intention is surely not to encourage "f*lkies" (yuk) to regard each other with ever-increasing, inward-looking, GEFFist affection and assume "we're not that bad". Yes, you are.

Frank/Lawrence soldiered on in Boring, hoping though largely failing to lead the "revival" by example. On the other hand, I got the hell out of it and promoted events in mainland Europe where the attitude of councils, funding bodies and punters alike towards tradarts is (unlike England) that it's a "normal" activity worthy of support.

It's invidious to single out Dick Miles as he's only one of hundreds of artists struggling precariously to survive on a circuit awash with faux cliquiness and amateurishness. Get real. Tradarts is a business where its workforce and products are now more than ever in need of professional marketing and promotion.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 03:04 AM

From Captain Birdsey:
like Diane,I thought these cartoons were funny 30 years ago.
…………………………………………………………………
now I find them predictable ……………………………………..

and from Diane Easby:
……….I got bored with Borfolk 30 years ago,………..

So, where did either of you see the Mudcat parody 30 years ago? Even if the message is the same, the approach is fresh and amusing.



From another thread:

For more than 30 years Mudcat's Dick Miles has been play and writing traditional music………………….

Captain, perhaps it's a good job people don't apply your sense of humour to their musical tastes, otherwise you could find your upcoming tour playing to pretty small audiences.


DC

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Mar 09 - 12:57 AM

It ain't easy being green, is it, Joe?**bg** (All ya'd have to do is invite us up to your lighthouse sometime and wax poetic about wildflowers or summat.:-)

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 10:30 PM

Aw, all the women react to LeeJ that way. Can't figure out why...

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 10:10 PM

Ah, my LeeJ! swoons, hand held to brow...

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 08:35 PM

"one final point,are we not allowed to have a different sense of humour wothout being called humourless."

Of course you are, if you're on drugs.......Otherwise there is a surcharge and a luxury tax payable to Max.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Dave Roberts
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 08:27 PM

I'm full of admiration for this excellent parody, and also for the protagonists in this typical Mudcat discussion. Definitive and seemingly unanswerable arguments are put forward only to be countered by equally definitive and unanswerable arguments from an entirely different viewpoint. I've sat at the computer into the early hours following threads like this many times over the years, sometimes confused, usually bemused but always very amused (that's almost poetry).

Bert Davrose

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 07:58 PM

Richard, I think the A.L.LLoyd reference is just Mr/Ms High Hopes paying a compliment to this page:

this page

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 06:43 PM

You know what the mudcat banjo looks like at the top of the page. Simply click on that knock-off image and it changes.

Not sure where the other one is.

SRS

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 06:33 PM

I've enjoyed what I've been able to find, but I can't find
'Loved the "Click me" which puts a foot through the banjo...'
and
'- and The A.L.Lloyd Fake Song Award goes to.....'

Can some kind soul please provide direct links?

Richard

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 05:54 PM

. . . and think 'thank goodness we're not quite that bad'

But they are that bad. And worse. And have been for 30 odd years. That's the tragedy.
The mantra is still "professionalism bad, amateurishness good".
No, it isn't.
I can't read Lawrence Heath's mind, though I'd be very surprised if he was endorsing such smugness and self-satisfaction.
I'm much more inclined to believe that Frank's alter ego was hoping people might recognise something of themselves and work for improvement by following his real-life example instead.
If many more had, the musbiz wouldn't be in such a terminal mess.
Dick's right in identifying Borfolk as "predictable", still worse, it's self-perpetuating.
That's what's not so much funny as scary about it.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Les from Hull
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 05:08 PM

Surely the whole point of parody is to go over the top with it, with the hope that people will recognise some of the elements, and probably think 'thank goodness we're not quite that bad'. I thought it extremely funny, and long may it continue and expand.

On the subject of Mr Bleaty's sense of humour, and his love of blues music, I'm reminded of the time he put his version of Robert Johnson's 'Stones in my Passway' on an LP (which is what we had in them days). To give it that element of veracity he added some scratches from an old military marching band record he had. Of course, there were no of these modern recording techniques then. He was surprised when someone return the record with a complaint 'there's something wrong with this track'. They didn't notice that the scratches were going at 78rpm and the record was going at 33rpm!

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:51 PM

like Diane,I thought these cartoons were funny 30 years ago.
and undoubtedly they are funny the first time you see them.
now I find them predictable and much else.the drawings are excellent
one final point,are we not allowed to have a different sense of humour wothout being called humourless.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Big Mick
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:47 PM

Damn the buffaloes, Ernie........ Full speed ahead, sir!!!!!!

...where the hell did I lay that blue coat........

Mick

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:41 PM

Very clever!

I don't know who the folks on the UK side are, with or without anagrams. But the author signed his work, so that isn't a mystery--except that I don't know who he is, either. :)

SRS

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:22 PM

Well, at least we gave you McDonald's. And never a word of thanks for that!
And those luggage carts aren't so bad really. Several years ago, trying to navigate a congested intersection in Heathrow, I would never have made my plane in time if I hadn't used one as a battering ram to drive a wedge through a morosely trudging queu of Brits who refused to acknowledge my polite "excuse me, please!" or even "coming through!" until I finally shouted "watch your ass"" and plowed through, like a broadside from the USS Constitution going through the beam of the HMS Guerriere.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:08 PM

While sulking in a corner (such a useful activity) you might puzzle out who Mr Bleaty and I were talking about. The subject was, after all, killed on a US roadside.

As for "really serious matters", I have another gripe to lay at the door of the transatlantic cousins. A decade ago I was driven demented by the proliferation of those luggage trolleys infesting the island of Manhattan, tripping up all and sundry. Now they're here. Everywhere. Used as offensive weapons against ordinary pedestrians.

Subject: RE: Excellent Mudcat parody
From: Rifleman (inactive)
Date: 26 Mar 09 - 04:07 PM

More than likely it's been there since 2002 but as I said it's one of my favourite quotes about Mr. Bellamy. Probably due to exceedingly bad taste on my part I'm no fan of Messers Boden and Speirs.

Belatedly I've realised that there's no being nice to 'er ladyship so bugger it...*LOL*