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Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009
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Subject: Obit: David Carradine 6/4/09 From: Wesley S Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:24 AM MSNBC Story Breaking news updated 10:07 a.m. ET June 4, 2009 Actor David Carradine, star of the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu" who also had a wide-ranging career in the movies, has been found dead in the Thai capital, Bangkok. A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy, Michael Turner, confirmed the death of the 72-year-old actor. He says Carradine died either late Wednesday or early Thursday, but he could not provide further details out of consideration for his family. The Web site of the newspaper The Nation cited unidentified police sources as saying Carradine was found Thursday hanged in his luxury hotel room and is believed to have committed suicide. Carradine was a leading member of a venerable Hollywood acting family that included his father, character actor John Carradine, and brother Keith. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine From: Alice Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:28 AM oh, my gosh That is a shock. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine From: Jack Blandiver Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:29 AM RIP Grasshopper. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine From: kendall Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:31 AM Damn! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine From: GUEST, Sminky Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:40 AM Sad news. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: katlaughing Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:47 AM We have always been big-time fans of his, esp. his Kung Fu series. This is really sad. I read that he was in Bangkok making a new movie. |
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Subject: Obit: David Carradine, actor - June 2009 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:50 AM What a shock! And before anyone kicks this down below, think: Carradine did a damned fine job of playing Woody Guthrie in a film many years ago. Fox News came up with this story first. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: jacqui.c Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:52 AM So sad. One of the good ones IMHO. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine, actor - June 2009 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:56 AM Bound For Glory was the film. New York Times arts page article. David Carradine, the star of the 1970s television series "Kung Fu" and the title villain of the "Kill Bill" movies has died in Thailand, The Associated Press reported. The United States Embassy in Bangkok told The A.P. that Mr. Carradine had been found dead in his hotel suite in Bangkok, where he was working on a movie. He was 72. Mr. Carradine was part of an acting family that included his father, John; his brother, Bruce, and half-brothers Keith and Robert; and his nieces Ever Carradine and Martha Plimpton. After a short run as the title character in the 1966 television adaptation of the Western "Shane," he found fame in the 1972 series "Kung Fu" as Kwai Chang Caine, a wanderer raised by Shaolin monks to be a martial arts master. He enjoyed a career resurgence in recent years when he was cast by Quentin Tarantino in the action movies "Kill Bill: Vol. 1″ and "Vol. 2." |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: wysiwyg Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:59 AM At first this upset me, but then I realized it's OK-- he passed along with Koko Taylor. M, m, M! Fun up in heaven toNIGHHT! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Backwoodsman Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:15 AM Sod it! He was so cool, and 'Grasshopper' was such a great name. Us young 'uns all wanted to be him. Another icon from my younger days, gone to that last Big Gig. RIP. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Wesley S Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:27 AM My understanding is that the "Kung-Fu" TV series was developed for Bruce Lee. But the network honchos decided that America wasn't ready for a TV series staring an oriental. So a few changes were made and Carradine ended up as the star. And I'm glad that they made a movie about Woody Guthrie but it grated on my nerves that they allowed Carradine to play a Mossman guitar in the movie. It's a great guitar but they weren't used widely until well after Woody stopped performing. A little point but sometimes we guitar players are bothered by things like that. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: GUEST,Neil D Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:35 AM Terrible news. My brother taking me to see Bound For Glory when I was a kid was my introduction to Folk Music. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:45 AM A truly interesting Hollywood family that frequently showed the relationship of genius and madness..........all of them. I've always enjoyed them all and am sad that this end has come to David. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Georgiansilver Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:58 AM RIP Kwai Chang Caine (grasshopper) your memory lives on in many of us. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: PoppaGator Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:58 AM Very sad that anyone would commit suicide at age 72. I would think that such an end is very unusual ~ except in cases of painful, lingering terminal illness, in which case the only available "exit strategy" is often assisted suicide. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Jun 09 - 12:17 PM If you read the public medical examiner records, such as we have here in Tarrant County, Texas, there are, unfortunately, a large number of suicides that occur by hanging in closets. Also drugs, pills, and guns, but a large percentage of closets. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: fat B****rd Date: 04 Jun 09 - 12:32 PM Cain has finally left the temple. RIP Mr. Carradine. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Jun 09 - 12:57 PM I didn't think anybody could play Woody Guthrie, but Carradine did a very credible job in Bound for Glory. May he find peace. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Wesley S Date: 04 Jun 09 - 01:19 PM I'd love to see Gary Sinise take a crack at playing Woody. Surely there must be enough material for one more movie about Woody Guthries life. And I understand that Sinise is a musician of sorts. He plays the bass. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: frogprince Date: 04 Jun 09 - 01:28 PM Sad. It would have been more understandable when he was down to roles in some abysmal movies for a period. R.I.P. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Fiolar Date: 04 Jun 09 - 01:53 PM So sad. Ar Deis De le nahanam |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: open mike Date: 04 Jun 09 - 02:40 PM NPR radio has reported this news (with no mention of the suicide aspect) and part of the story was that David has been in 6 movies which have not yet been released..NPR blog |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: SINSULL Date: 04 Jun 09 - 02:56 PM I loved him in Kill Bill. Pure evil. A sad way to go but... RIP |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: bubblyrat Date: 04 Jun 09 - 03:04 PM I have just watched the News on Channel Four in England,and they are reporting that the authorities in Thailand are tactfully suggesting that Mr Carradine was the victim of "accidental hanging".Well, as far as I know,although I have never tried it,there is only one way that THAT could happen,as it has done in modern times to some famous "rock" musicians, among others. Humanum Est Errare , but who knows ?? |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Sorcha Date: 04 Jun 09 - 03:52 PM I'll miss him. Met him a few times, once in Mossmans shop. Played a little music, had a little fun. Another time on a set in Kansas. That might have been his Merry Go round film. Not sure if it was ever released. He's been fighting depression most of his life. Made several other attemtpts....I'll miss him. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Mrrzy Date: 04 Jun 09 - 04:02 PM hanging naked in his closet with the window cord, is what I read. Very very sad, and he was in the middle of making a movie, seems a weird time to commit suicide. I really liked all the Carradines, very sad for them. hadn't realized he was depressed... |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: open mike Date: 04 Jun 09 - 04:26 PM One story mentioned that he had suicidal thoughts for many years. He once imagined jumping out the window of a tall building that he was in. He kept a loaded pistol in his desk drawer and would often contemplate using it. I would hope that he could have used the Tai Chi powers of concentration to rise above those thoughts. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: open mike Date: 04 Jun 09 - 04:31 PM his tai chi instructonal dvd |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 04 Jun 09 - 04:39 PM I remember David's father, John Carradine, from movies like "Stagecoach," which kick-started John Wayne's career and "The Grapes of Wrath." In the latter, there is a sort of emotional "six degrees" connection to Woodie Guthrie and those for whom he sang. John Carradine had one of those unforgettable stentorian voices that often reeked of ham when he played preachers, shady characters or wayward frontier thespians. David was once married to Barbara Hershey, who was also known for a time as "Barbara Seagull." They were both flower children for a while and seemed to drift in and out of alternative lifestyles. He had seemed to have taken his craft much more seriously in later years. He also seemed to have evolved a sort of self-deprecating sense of humor, which makes it seem all the more odd that his life should have ended as it did. Perhaps an undisclosed illness underlies it. We may never know. Condolences to his family. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Jun 09 - 06:16 PM Terry Gross' Fresh Air today replayed a sizeable chunk, if not the entire interview, made with Carridine in 1991. link SRS |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: GUEST,Lock and Key Date: 04 Jun 09 - 06:34 PM You got the pebble, Caine. Rest well. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: John Hardly Date: 04 Jun 09 - 07:30 PM Master Po: "close your eyes. what do you hear?" Young Caine: "I hear the water, I hear the birds" Master Po: "listen for the color of the sky. look for the sound of the hummingbird's wing. search the air for the perfume of ice on a hot day. if you have found these things, you will know. do you hear your own heartbeat?" Young Caine: "no" Master Po: "do you hear the grasshopper at your feet?" Young Caine: "old man, how is it that you hear these things?" Master Po: "young man, how is it that you do not?" Young Caine: "Um, because they're like totally quiet and stuff?" Master Po: "The grasshopper will be heard if you will but listen, young one." Young Caine: "Would I have to take off my iPod? " Master Po: "If you don't you will never open yourself up to the pure light of being. " Young Caine: "Being what, old man?" Master Po: "Being at one with the universe. Being free from the bonds of matter and free to the surrounding energy." Young Caine:"Could I be invisible too? I think that would be TOTALLY cool." Master Po: "No, but I can teach you to beat the shit out of cowboys." Young Caine: "Awesome! ...What's a cowboy?" |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: frogprince Date: 04 Jun 09 - 07:42 PM : ) John H. The first couple of lines of that, I thought you actually had some dialogue from the show memorized. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 04 Jun 09 - 07:58 PM I met him briefly - about six years ago. He stopped his black car - rolled down the black tinted window and asked, "What are you doing?"
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:43 PM This should be three postings - but in the interest of brevity - and the immediate call of work...ONE POSTING. Naked we come into this world and naked we leave.
There was a most peculiar news article - (mid 80's maybe) Mr. D.C. was found naked, and befuddled trespassing on someone's property at night...(an LSD trip gone bad was implied.)
Nice job - John Hardy
Last Sunday - in a used bookstore - some of the TV scripts (the kind with three brass brads) were in a stack...I hope the owner does well with them...I will be back eight days later to check.
Sincerely
Yesterday - there was a MudCat posting about another celebrity death in Thailand ... The thread has vanished...but I beleive the guy was a Scottish musician. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Beer Date: 04 Jun 09 - 10:56 PM One of my fantasy hero's. Sympathies to all his love ones. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:09 PM Nice story, Gargoyle. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: pdq Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:17 PM Scottish composer and music teacher was murdered in January...his two killers were arrested recently...thread here... Subject: Obit: Scottish Musician's Murderers Arrested From: GUEST,Herald - PM Date: 04 Jun 09 - 06:11 AM In Thursday Herald Musician's Murderers Arrested - David Crisp, musician and teacher was found dead - reportedly with his throat cut The HERALD Web Issue 3478 June 4 2009 "Two arrested over Scottish teacher's murder in Thailand" www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.2485586.0.Two_arrested_over_Scottish_teachers_murder_in_Thailand.php |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: GUEST Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:17 PM I'm so sorry. Depression is an illness, and hard to combat. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: olddude Date: 05 Jun 09 - 12:06 AM not only the kung fu series but nobody played a better villian than he . and he was also a fine singer and guitar player ... did a lot of blues stuff. I heard him once on TV in the 70's and was amazed at his talent RIP David |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Murray MacLeod Date: 05 Jun 09 - 04:57 AM looks like the true story of his demise is altogether more banal and seedier than previously conjectured. doesn't make his death any less regrettable, however. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Richard Bridge Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:28 AM At present further forensics are awaited, but the rope was allegedly not from the hotel and tied around Carradine's neck and testicles. The rope is being tested for traces of DNA that may show whether anyone else was present. Was "seedier" a pun, Murray? |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Murray MacLeod Date: 05 Jun 09 - 02:07 PM heaven forfend I should knowingly indulge in paronomasia on a thread of such gravitas, Richard... |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Paco Rabanne Date: 06 Jun 09 - 03:58 AM Woof! Well done David! Going out in an orgy of unusual sex at the age of 72! Well played sir! |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: mkebenn Date: 06 Jun 09 - 02:03 PM I really liked his potrayal of Cole Younger in the "Longriders", gave a depth to the character not usually seen. I will miss him. Mike |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: heric Date: 06 Jun 09 - 02:14 PM I think his son played the father on the Hilary Duff kids' show, so he did brief appearance where he demonstrated how to catch the pebble: You slap the old priest's hand quickly from underneath, then catch it up in the air. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Art Thieme Date: 06 Jun 09 - 03:30 PM The Yahoo thing I read said that there is 'a practice of cutting off your oxygen supply that enhances male orgasm' -- and that's what he was doing when he went too far! Could that be accurate? Whew!!?? Art |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: wysiwyg Date: 06 Jun 09 - 03:34 PM It's called autoerotic asphyxiation. Accidental death of that sort is more commonly discovered with the people found wearing B&D-wear. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: mkebenn Date: 06 Jun 09 - 04:09 PM SUSAN!! You are right though. Mike |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Jun 09 - 11:18 AM And I THINK it would not normally be done is a closet, but hey, what do I know? "Normally" be done in a closet, LOL, didn't mean to make that joke but what the hey. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: meself Date: 07 Jun 09 - 02:26 PM Yes, let's all have a good laugh ... |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Jun 09 - 02:38 PM "Black" humor, to relieve numbness. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: GUEST,Daily Mail reader Date: 07 Jun 09 - 02:55 PM God Bless him, he was a fine actor. He brought a lot of pleasure to people in his lifetime. In prayers and thoughts. TB |
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Subject: RE: Obit: David Carradine 3 or 4 June 2009 From: Azizi Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:16 PM For an interesting article about David Carradine's career from an Asian writer's perspective, click this link: DAVID CARRADINE'S LEGACY OF SHAME by Guest Contributor (and regular commenter) Atlasien http://www.racialicious.com/2009/06/05/david-carradines-legacy-of-shame/#comments To date, that essay has 82 reader comments which also make interesting reading. |
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