Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove-off 4 abit

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 04:13 PM

Red Cross- They helped enormously right after the fire by putting us up in a motel when we needed privacy and a safe place to stay. They've done their part.

Trailer- Yes! That's exactly what we need to do. There are companies that handle this kind of emergency housing (and the insurance company will pay for it), along with arranging hook-ups of utilities....just wondering if anyone can tell us via PM what companies they recommend or not and why, along with any other advice based on whatever experience someone may have had with a similar situation. PMs are best if anyone suggestions.

Thanks, Mary. You are right on target.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 07:40 PM

good news

sandra (sending more hugs)

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 08:09 PM

Thanks for the hugs, Sandra. No good news yet... just a need for housing. Soon, I hope, some kind of good news.

m

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 08:19 PM

Are you talking mobile home or travel trailer? There is a big difference.

I think there are a couple of approaches to consider.

If you know you're going to finish this cleanup work in the forseeable future, but you need a place to stay while you're doing the work and while you're working on the agricultural end of things, I would consider borrowing or renting a travel trailer, as much of one as you can afford, and live like you're on a boat (they're built that way--very compact, very efficient). Don't plan to fill it with a lot of personal things, but use it as a base of operations. You do need ground rules so you don't trip over each other, but if you're outside a lot anyway, that's less of a concern.

I would buy a couple of portable buildings that are sturdy enough to be locked and not broken into easily and put those on foundations in places where you think they'll live even after the new house is built. You might even want to plumb and wire one for appliances. Treat those buildings like a compound, and when the new house is finished, the trailer moves away. I'm afraid if there is a mobile home it is too easy to move slowly, fill it up with stuff, and end up living on the property in it.

If you did bring a mobile home in, then you would have a place to store a lot of stuff, but as I said, it would be tempting to just keep the mobile home going for a while. I've lived in them a few times over the years as park housing and such, and they're okay, but they don't appreciate and there are a lot of health and safety issues with living in them.

This said, I think you should be able to do some research on EPA information about the interior air in types of mobile homes. Also look into flammable insulation and materials. There might be rentals of various years to consider, but you want one up to code so you don't have another structure burn down on the site.

Welcome to Mudcat, Chicken Lady. You'll find if you use the little Google search on the home page that there are tons of De-Clutter/Declutter threads going. We've gotten to where we do one a month and are our own small cheering section. If you're interested in music, that makes Mudcat all the better a site for you--it's the music that brought us here in the first place.

SRS

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 08:51 PM

Trailer meaning mobile home. No campers; no security. No purchases; no money. No foundations under sheds; taxes. I've lived in all of the more or less obvious options at one time or another. Sorry- I can't go into much detail here; negotiations are ongoing with the insurance company and current landlords- thus the request for PMs.

We can't afford anything on our own except for moving into one of our sheds- and I refuse to do that while we have any other healthy option.

Thanks.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 09:33 PM

maeve, just sent you a PM. There's a free mobile home on craiglist - not sure how close it is to you. I sent you the link.


Hope you are getting some rest.

luvyakat

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 09:58 PM

Thanks. We don't want to have to pay to move one on and off the property or hook up septic, water, and power; nor do we want to pay taxes on it. If we do this at all it is through the insurance company, it is furnished, and they haul it away within a year- when we want it gone.

We've been living way below poverty level without any support services for years; this loss has taken our energy, money, hope, strength. What we have left is faith in our God and trust in our marriage; not a whole lot more than that.

You are all wonderful to be so full of good ideas, but this is the best option that is open to us; there are companies that specialize in temporary emergency housing after fires and similar disasters. I have the names of three in the New England area. They would work directly with the insurance company. I hoped someone might have used such a company and could recommend or warn against it. Maybe no one here has actually used such a service. Fair enough.

I'm tired and sad. Sorry to throw a wet blanket over shiny new ideas. Have a restful night, friends.

Love,

maeve

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 10:12 PM

Thanks for explaining further, maeve. I know it is not easy for you to share so much personal detail. That sounds like a good plan and much easier on you, as far as getting something there, etc.

Your God, marriage and survival of that night are pretty important things to have intact. The rest will come as you are guided by your faith. We will be patient and keep sending lots of hugs, prayers, good thoughts and thanks givings.

With all good wishes for Peace Profound,

kat

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 10:17 PM

Along those lines, when we moved to Fort Worth we were in what they call "executive housing" for about 2 months while we waited for the house to close. They wanted him on the job so soon that we didn't have the leisure to find a house first. Furnished apartments, rented by the month by the company. Do you suppose you could find something similar in your area? Use those key words.

As it happens, a friend in West Texas has been building a compound small building by small building, and they built a couple of small sheds that they used in conjunction with a travel trailer. Very well-built sheds, one for his ham radio gear, another for storage, but along the lines of 12 x 15 and they could set them up like individual rooms without a house holding them together. That's what the Reagan compound in California is like.   ;-)

SRS

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 24 Feb 10 - 10:20 PM

I guess I'm not explaining very well, Maggie. Thank you for your suggestions. No, these are not what we are needing right now. Have a great night.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 12:47 AM

If the insurance industry uses these companies you might find personal experiences of their use on other forums or newspaper sites.

good luck & a few more hugs

sandra

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 12:58 AM

We're not talking about now, we're talking about sometime in the future when you have a table to put a decorative plate on in a house you've rebuilt. No need to lug something around until then.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 01:00 AM

Oops--wrong thread for the plate.

Are there no nearby rental units that would be covered until you are ready to move in? Is it a matter of getting the insurance to pay for what Red Cross has paid for so far, or are you needing to relocate also?

SRS

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 01:37 AM

...this is the best option that is open to us; there are companies that specialize in temporary emergency housing after fires and similar disasters. I have the names of three in the New England area. They would work directly with the insurance company.

There are companies that handle this kind of emergency housing (and the insurance company will pay for it), along with arranging hook-ups of utilities....just wondering if anyone can tell us via PM what companies they recommend or not and why...

I would suspect the insurance company wants a say and is not looking for free mobile homes, etc. (sorry about that, maeve:-)

I think they mean to put it on their property while they muck out and grow their products for their farm stand.

At any rate, I think maeve has it figured out and will get the ball rolling with their ins. co which can then takeover and get it done! May there be a swift and just resolution in this situation..this or something better for the highest good of all concerned.

G'night, for real.:-)

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 10:02 AM

Home and shelter are elemental- may you find the way soon!

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 10:25 AM

For all that the Internet leaves things wide open for research, to understand a particular place and the ammenities and such, it's like peaking through a keyhole. Good luck in sorting it all out!

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Janie
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 10:48 AM

maeve & TL,

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 05:09 PM

Maeve, I read this thread (your posts anyway) daily even during my Lenten abstinence from the BS section. You and TL continue on the parish prayer list (anonymously) as well as my daily personal prayer list.

About the housing situation-- I would just say, your own excellent thinking and God's abundant provision must be about to hook up.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: jacqui.c
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 07:35 PM

I hope things get sorted out Maeve - I've been thinking about you.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 26 Feb 10 - 11:22 AM

Words have fled again.

Thanks, all.

m

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 26 Feb 10 - 11:46 AM

Sometimes I read here but also have no words- I'm just here, that's all. Love you!

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Feb 10 - 01:00 PM

{{{{{{{{maeve}}}}}}}}

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: bbc
Date: 26 Feb 10 - 09:37 PM

Thinking of you with love!

Barbara

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: JennieG
Date: 27 Feb 10 - 02:50 AM

Lots of good thoughts and hugs from me too - hope things are sorted for you soon.

Cheers
JennieG

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 27 Feb 10 - 07:02 AM

Thanks, friends. The thing is; when your whole world falls apart and even secure shelter is up in the air, every additional stress has a greater impact. Our choices are limited at best. There is no cure for what ails us.

Your many kindnesses are appreciated.

maeve

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 27 Feb 10 - 09:31 AM

I second what Jennie said

sandra

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Mar 10 - 11:14 AM

How's it going, Maeve?

~Susan

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Mar 10 - 01:21 PM

I hope things have been sorted and that you two are bathed in light.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 02:40 AM

Maeve and TL, there is ALWAYS a cure - it just might not look like it at the moment... Take comfort, that even in your lowest moments, your darkest days and your most terrifying dreams someone, somewhere is thinking about you.


And smiling.

(((hugs)))

LTS

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 07:33 AM

Always....

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 08:03 AM

Friends: Thank you for your encouragement. Music and fabric, PMs and letters, seeds and seed gift certificates have all smoothed the way. Thank you.

"What ails us" is that a hand built, two hundred year old house crafted from trees that started life up to three hundred years ago is gone. There truly is no cure for that loss. We will find treasures. We will have another home or homes. That much loved, unique house is gone forever.

We are grieving the death of our home. We are allowed to do this, and it is healthy for us to to mourn as we feel the need. If it is uncomfortable for our Mudcat friends when we do so here, we are content to post only the stories that will provide encouragement and indicate progress to whomever happens to read the posts.

We have held off posting for several days to allow the concern and helpful efforts to go to those here who are fighting the good fight against various illnesses. When we aren't so busy working at the fire clean-up we'll post with such happy reports as we can muster.

The best we can offer for now is the new poem on the Birdwatching 2010 thread.

maeve & Truelove

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 09:15 AM

Maeve,
My big concern for you was that you did not seem to be mourning. You appeared to be taking it all in stride with a philosophical acceptance. It is healthy and necessary to mourn the loss. When my family jewelry was stolen, nothing could replace my mother's, grandmothers' and great-grandmother's wedding rings. It took me years to get past it. Mourn privately or share your thoughts. Either way, you have friends to listen or simply stand by and care.
And thanks for letting us focus on om, Kendall and Michelle. There is so much crap going on right now, it wears me out.
By the way, I fell on my face on Fore Street, cut my nose and hand and bruised everything. I want some sympathy.
Though laughed at the time.
Mary

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: jacqui.c
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 09:38 AM

Maeve - I don't think that any of your Mudcat friends would be the least bit discomforted by your grieving here. It is natural so to do and is a relief, to me at least, that your are doing that.

We are here to share both good times and bad and to give comfort, where we can, in the dark times.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 10:45 AM

Exactly what Jacqui said, maeve. Please, post what you need to, happy, sad, and in-between. I was admonished a while back...we need not compare our own troubles with those of others and think that our need is less worthy. It is all relative and there are a lot of us to work on helping.

The great big old Victorian house I grew up in and lived in with my first two children burnt down soon after my parents sold it. Having been gone more than twenty years when we came back here, I couldn't stand to drive by the old place..it would send me into a long crying spell...I am still mourning that wonderful old HOME. It stood on a small hill and was visible for a long way; pilots used it as a landmark when coming into the airport. You are right, there is no cure for that kind of loss.

Much love and support for your way of living through this.

kat

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 10:58 AM

If it is uncomfortable for our Mudcat friends when we do so here, we are content to post only the stories that will provide encouragement and indicate progress to whomever happens to read the posts.

We have held off posting for several days to allow the concern and helpful efforts to go to those here who are fighting the good fight against various illnesses.


It can be hard for folks to be sure what is grief-venting that needs no response-- and what is meant otherwise. (It took me a long time to learn to say, up front, what I intended/wanted in my posts, but doing that CAN help cut down the unwanted help/advice offers.) And I know for sure that just about everyone here trusts and expects you to:

Take the best and leave the rest.


Now, as far as not wanting to eclipse others' struggles-- that is NONSENSE. There is MORE than enough MudLove to go around. Behind the scenes, sometimes. Take LF for instance. I'm close to that one so I can say-- MOST of the support there has been offthread, via PMs between her best supporters. Quiet, personal, well-aimed, well-used.

No one person's struggle is on the shoulders of only a few, tho maybe those "few" do sometimes FEEL like it is. But that is THEIR issue, and they can let go of that "I'm so burdened" approach at any time. Their issue of feeling overly-needed has NOTHING to do with what YOUR rational needs are.

Your only "job" in this is to just... be... yourself. Woman, that who-you-really-are person is SO WORTHY of being supported. Those who know you really well know that in spades, but even those of us who only know you a little more narrowly also find it obvious.


When we had our fire, there was not enough support in the world, despite a caring church family, biological families, coping skills we were told were extraordinary, and a few close Catter friends. And that was only a "teensy" fire-- compared to yours. TAKE THE SUPPORT. Why? Because your own future goals require that you be at your best, later (as you define it).

This means that your own recovery now-- which you so excellently model and conduct-- is priceless. It's more priceless even than the house that of COURSE you must grieve.


But the idea that you have to wait for space here-- nope. Just not so! Space with close-by folks, yes, maybe-- they do have a heavy load right now.

But just a tad farther are the REST of us.

Teach us what you need! Some of us are quick learners! :~)


~Susan

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 11:14 AM

"Great" minds think alike, cross-post, and then argue over the details. :~)

Maeve, I'm doubling the number of CDs in the box you last OK'd. Some of them may SEEM like "not your type" of music. Hey, give them a try and then pass them along to the library of you don't find them useful.

~S~

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 11:21 AM

Kat, you remind me of a message I received several years ago from Mudcatter Deckman, who saw a story in the paper about my mother's house having sustained a damage in a fire. Of course it was no longer my mother's house, but it had been my childhood home, and it was a shock to see it even damaged. It was also a landmark in town, but because of an unusual roof design, not because it was near anything where people would always remark on it. We used to put lights up under the eaves each holiday season because that made it look all the more like a "gingerbread house."

We had an even earlier house, in Seattle, where I loved to explore. There were spaces that were off limits to us because they weren't being used or because our parents didn't want to try to keep track of us in them. I'd love to be in that house as an adult, because I would use the green house, I would use the garden shed, I would use so much of the space that my parents never bothered with.

Amazing, when you think about it, how much of what we become can be based upon the spaces where we grew up, and how we understand space can be used.

SRS

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 11:39 AM

I think I rattled my brain a bit more than I thought yesterday.
Om is Tom.
And I laughed while sitting on my butt on the ground.
Need a laugh?
Here's a silly old woman sitting on the ground on her butt with blood all over her face and hands. The local garage guy walks over (now he is considered the local crank but he and I chat every night as I leave work) looks down very concerned and says "At first I thought it was a circus act but I guess you're hurt." Everybody stopped and looked at him in disbelief. I just laughed as he helped me up. First time any of them have heard him speak and of course he comes out with a bizarre comment.

I love you dearly, Maeve, and hate that the fire happened to you. Hang in there. It will get better. In some ways it is getting better.
Mary

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: gnu
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 12:35 PM

Gee... I missed that post about your fall, SINS. You good?

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 12:47 PM

Fine, gnu. Just thought I'd amuse Maeve at my expense. Fine and very lucky. A little scabby too.
SINS

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 12:49 PM

Mary, I also missed that remark about your fall. I'm glad someone was there to assist.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 02:36 PM

The particular house is gone, but you remember the floor plan etc. There are lots of old structures in rural Maine that can be moved,or torn down and reassembled etc. I bet a good plan, the proper old wood and a team of horses and a house-raising could put something beautiful together. Even before a house comes together, would you be interested in putting together a simple concrete block or stone (even better) wash house, with a washer and dryer, shower and bathroom facilities..and a separate room for kitchen type sink. if that were piped and heated, there are all sorts of other living arrangements that could happen..mg

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 03:45 PM

Money makes the world go around, mg. The family is trying to avoid spending any.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 03:50 PM

True...but sometimes supplies and often friendly labor can be had for free or very low cost...if I were there I would be glad to help with sorting stones or whatever. mg

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 03:04 PM

Thanks for the thoughts that were posted while we've been working on the fire clean-up. Your good wishes are appreciated. My reply is rather long; you may prefer to skip to the last paragraph!

What I want from this thread is to have a safe place to describe our experience as we recover from the fire and the way our lives have changed. I'd like to ask a question and get a couple of answers to that question. I'd like to keep in mind the unseen folks who may read this- and with them in mind, keep it as productive as possible, even when that means expressing our sorrow. Sometimes I may post a poem, or list the birds we've seen at home.

I come to Mudcat for music and friendship. We know where to find therapy or counseling if we need it. We were glad to let the focus of caring Mudcatters shift to those facing immediately worrying, painful medical issues. We've been given bountiful help and support, and we will continue to accept help; but it is good for us to step back occasionally, turning from our own worries in favor of others.

We continue to work hard toward full and healthy recovery. If you can't see the grieving or the recovery it's because this is (gasp!) a virtual community whose real participants have lives you can't see unless we visit each other. Those who know me can visit or pick up the telephone. I love getting letters and PMs, so those are also good choices for more personal discussions rather than for this very Mudcat thread.

My husband and I are able to build with wood and stone. We can plant, grow, graft, and harvest. We can repair what is broken, use hand and power tools, turn a ruin to a lovely oasis, and make a haven out of a fire dead home. We are learning when to ask for help, and how to accept or gently refuse help. We have no money except what we have been given for immediate survival. At the moment we are occupied with putting the house to rest, dealing with insurance negotiations, and organizing shelter for the next year. Will we rebuild? I have no idea.

Sometimes the suggestions and help offered here aren't what we need, but that's fine. We know someone else will see and make use of your good ideas. Just as we hope we can help others through this thread, we hope to build some stronger sense of community in our small farming village. Perhaps as we work through the things we need to do we'll be able to receive and offer just the sort of practical help mg mentions; we hope so.

For now, the snowdrops are in bloom at home, we are deeply in love with one another, and we celebrate the many kindnesses from strangers and friends.

In gratitude,
maeve

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: gnu
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 04:15 PM

Eloquent, thoughtful and thought provoking. Thanks, m.

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 06:55 PM

It is quite a process, isn't it? I like that idea of Mary's, though. I've seen so many houses that are little wooden gems get pushed over so people can build a new brick one on a slab. And those little old ones can be purchased for very reasonable prices, even with the moving costs. I'm thinking of Everett, Washington, where I've read several stories lately. And I've seen lovely little houses moved in places like the Fairmount neighborhood, and Arlington Heights, here in Fort Worth.

I was just out working in the yard, and when I walked into the garage to look around for the gas can and pruning shears, I had that same little bubble of pleasure rise up--it is just a garage, but it is a building that I had built. I didn't use hammer and nails myself, but I planned it, paid for it, and have enjoyed using it exactly the way I planned. Even the most modest structure, if it works the way you want, is a reminder that we all leave marks on our environment that we hope will stick around for a while. But if they don't, we know how to do it again. Good luck with the continued planning, maeve!

SRS

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 08:01 PM

KUDOS MAEVE! You just achieved some kinda new level there.


A Priority-Mail box (the size one sz larger than the envelope sz) is on its way, mailed by Father Cootoesniffer (ask LF) with love and our prayers from an antique post office in Corning. It may arrive Monday or Tuesday they said. It includes a recycled paper shopping bag to keep items inside from rattling around too much, and in the ep are some threads to decorate a bush for birds-nest material (all cotton).

Some of the music is a pass-alonmg from LF and some is music left over from fitness and socail-change projects in full swing here.

Yet to send is a CD of the church service that prays for you (discreetly) each week, and our raucous music for that service. Be warned, we sound loud and somewhat loosely wrapped. :~)

===

Please PM for shipping instrux if you would like to ship burnt items to me to scan into JPEGs. I did not know this till last week, but I can stand the smell of fire-burnt stuff now (9 years post-fire healing), and it would help us redeem OUR experience to help in that way-- if it would be useful to you for salvaging non-stinky memories into visual permanency.

~S~

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Mar 10 - 02:16 AM

I'm lost for words... a rare occurence!

Be assured that you're still thought of and prayed for, and if my lottery numbers come up, I'm coming out to help you whether you want it or not!

LTS

Subject: RE: Tribulation/ Blessings Maeve & Truelove
From: maeve
Date: 13 Mar 10 - 05:57 AM

Liz, that's one threat I'd like to see carried out! When you find your words, send a few along in a PM, eh?

maeve