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BS: Calling GfS......

GUEST,Guest from Sanity 10 Nov 10 - 03:30 AM
Little Hawk 10 Nov 10 - 12:21 AM
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Slag 08 Nov 10 - 10:24 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 03:30 AM

Little Hawk, (yo-ho)..all you need, to get good sound is your computer hooked up to a good sound system, or maybe GOOD headphones. On a conference 'chat', we could have as many people on it, as who want to listen.

Last time I used 'yahoo' chat, then hit the 'conference' icon, and then you either ask to enter the conference chat, or I invite you..either one. Once everybody is in the room, they can all listen, and/or post messages to anyone in the room....which, I believe, everybody in the room reads, and it's 'live'.

I've done it before in the chat rooms, themselves, but then you get a lot of people who want to talk, and the music gets messed up when they 'key' the mic.

I think we could pull it off, and any 'Catter can listen in...and still be on the Mudcat Forum..at the same time!..All we'd have to do, is set a time, and everybody have instant messaging. like I said, I used 'Yahoo'. I don't have it on this computer now, but it's a free download.

This way, I don't have to piss off some people who are looking at the material, for commercial production....and turn you on to some pretty cool stuff!

Anybody else? Post a thought, or a time, or ask a question.

Earlier this evening I got a call from a lady who LOVES the material, and wanted to know if I'd play for the opening night, for the town's brand new 'Arts Council Center'....Sure! Move my equipment, and I'll do it! So I guess I'm waiting to hear back.

Anyway, I'll hang, and check out the feedback. If, not, we could do it one on one.

Regards,

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 12:21 AM

I've never participated or listened to a "conference chat" type of thing, GfS, but I'd certainly be interested.

I think what you say about original innocence is dead right. We all sprang from orginal innocence as far as I'm concerned, not original sin. I have never thought of myself as having any origin in "sin", but I do recognize having made numerous errors. Error is a step on the path of learning. In fact, without making errors learning is probably not even possible...each error made raises a flag in consciousness which points the way toward a correction of that error, and in the process of correction something valuable is learned and one improves oneself. Thus error is not to be feared or denied, but to be appreciated for the lesson it teaches.

The ego is so intent on observing and critizing others that it generally manages to almost totally avoid real self-observation and self-criticism. It manages, though, to erect a wall of pride...a defensive reaction, but it rarely succeeds in experiencing genuine love of either self or others.

The ego fears its own death if it should be honest and confront its own weaknesses and failings, but the love that sustains it through all that fear and sorrow cannot die. The ego itself WILL die when it truly surrenders to love...and that's what it fears. It will die and that which one truly is, which is way beyond the fragile ego, will step magnificently out of the shadow of fear and be seen to be the true self after all. And what is the true self? Love in all its forms!

The ego believes in separation and lives BY the belief in separation. Love believes in oneness and lives by no separation whatsoever. Love embraces everything. Light banishes darkness, and in the light the darkness is seen to have been...nothing at all, just an absence of light. We all want that love, because we know at heart that love is the one and only thing that can sustain us.


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From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Nov 10 - 11:29 PM

Slag: "You're on to something there Ggfs! There can be a re-connection, a higher innocence if you will. We can forgive ourselves, we can seek God's forgiveness, we can move beyond whatever limitations that have been imposed upon ourselves by ourselves and by others."

And Little Hawk agrees...so.....

First of all, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner..the office floor was steam cleaned, and I've been buried in 'busy'. My apologies!

Now, back to the posts from Slag, and Little Hawk,
I think people have been hung up in the disconnect, and that is definitely tangled up in people trying to figure out(read: 'make up'), what is 'Good and/or Evil'..(and the 'knowledge' thereof. What people can't seem to get, in their reconciliation, is that BEFORE there was 'original sin' there was original innocence.....and the path to that, is to at least make some honest attempt to admit that somewhere along the line, we have made mistakes!...Not only in our actions, but in our thinking, which perpetuates the sense of 'separation'...and if separated, we have a sense of 'unworthiness'. With a sense of unworthiness, comes a sense of avoiding taking that which is rightfully yours!

I find it so beneficial, whether in composing music or in writing lyrics, to freely and openly admit, what people are afraid to admit, or try to hide. This is true in your life as well!...so, it doesn't have to be so much of a stretch! When your music, (or life) is giving away such information, you might be surprised at how many people perk up, and pay attention!!! People are STARVED and THIRSTY, for REAL input!!

It's not like people need to be 'taught' more, or convinced of your 'opinions'(based on the worn out insanity of figuring out good versus evil), people need to identify, with a reality, long swept away from plain view!...and that which can be spoken of freely, but isn't, because of a sense of 'self embarrassment', turns out to be admired, for the sheer genius of it!!! That is a fact!!(If said tastefully).

So, I came up with an idea for anybody on here who would like to hear some of the music that I've been working on(for so long)....

I'm thinking, maybe it would be better to set up a time, where we could possibly be on a 'conference chat', and I'll play, both some recordings, and some 'live'..and it would be sorta like a live Mudcat concert!!! I'm pretty confident, you'll find it a breath of fresh air!

I did this a couple of years ago, during the holidays, in a chat room, where I played keyboards live into the room, through a transducer hook up, and it went over fabulously!

So let me know....and I'll put some stuff together. One piece is about a half hour long, but I have shorter ones, that are in 'song' format, with different singers. (one, might even be me, but I won't tell).

Best Regards!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag
Date: 08 Nov 10 - 10:24 PM

Mrzzy, if you told the Great Void about life on Earth (and if it didn't just swallow you up without even as much as a burp) it would think you the most imaginative story teller. I can see the aura forming the letters: PREPOSTEROUS ! and now it swallows you up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Nov 10 - 11:20 AM

And...?

Please elaborate, Mrzzy. ;-)

I have direct contact with life every day. It is life itself that supports and sustains me, you, and everyone else, and it is life itself, whatever enables life and consciousness to function within us, which I refer to as the Great Spirit of Life. You could also call it "life force". Or you could call it "consciousness". Or you could call it "self-awareness". Or you could call it "a sense of identity". Or you could call it "intention".

I don't know what it is. You don't know what it is. Nobody knows what it is. Nobody knows how it started or when or where it began (though there are some theories about that). But we all have contact with it at all times. We all experience it. Some choose to call it "God". Some don't call it anything at all, and they never think about it.

I also think that life is an act of love. That's a subjective judgement I have made, derived from direct experience, contact, and observation of life.


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Nov 10 - 11:08 AM

Little Hawk, I thought you only believed in that with which you had direct contact?


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Nov 10 - 02:27 AM

Absolutely, Slag! I think that forgiveness of self and others is the ultimate step toward personal freedom. Most people find it quite hard to forgive certain others, and even harder to forgive themselves (for not accomplishing and being all that they had hoped to be in this life). They are far harder on themselves than the Great Spirit of Life is, because they won't let go of the minor key. In any case, that Great Spirit of Life loves them without reserve. In my opinion.


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From: Slag
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 10:58 PM

I wonder if human crying was what first sparked the first music? It has been said some some sage that for the most, life on Earth is in the minor key. You have to have soul, spirit to sing and make music, to do art, to write or anything else that really connects with humans.

Psychopathic people do not do these things. There only connection is with themselves and how they feel about what they are doing. Other humans are just objects to them to be manipulated or avoided. There is no human spirit with them. To some, they may seem like Supermen, Superwomen. To varying degrees they are disconnected from Humankind.

You're on to something there Ggfs! There can be a re-connection, a higher innocence if you will. We can forgive ourselves, we can seek God's forgiveness, we can move beyond whatever limitations that have been imposed upon ourselves by ourselves and by others. We don't have to keep playing in the minor keys. The world opens up to those who find the way beyond guilt. It is very freeing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 05:01 PM

Oh, for sure...


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From: akenaton
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 02:32 PM

Inspirational figures all.....maybe even CC   :0)


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 02:21 PM

Huh?

Chongo Chimp? ;-)

What's your point, Akenaton?


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 02:14 PM

Fidel Castro. Eva Peron. Sarah Palin?


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 01:22 PM

Go back to sleep, Bobs.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 12:55 PM

Sure...it's possible to spiritualize politics, Bobert. Just not very common.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 12:45 PM

Heck, if we let our spirituality prevail in everything we do there is no reason why it has to bring us down... I mean, there are times when Jesus got a little testy, too... No big deal as long as one doesn't allow politics to eat at their core values or their spiritual self... Yeah, some folks can't compartmentalize politics and let it go... I mean, I enjoy them but it ain't my whole danged life...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 10:47 AM

I think your absolutely right in what you say. Yes, when a higher spiritual consciousness is brought into music then the songs or musical pieces are raised to a whole new level, becuase it isn't the isolated ego-mind that's speaking anymore, it's the soul that's speaking, and the soul is far greater than the mind. Ultimately one can tap into the universal Spirit of Life itself, and become as a scribe or a conduit. If that occurs, then both the lyrics and the music become transformed in subtle ways, and a lot of people will feel it and get it at some level, although they may not know exactly why. You can feel it yourself while you perform the music, you just have to "tune in" to it.

As for the political scene...yeah...it's a huge spiritual sinkhole. It mostly just drags people down and turns them negative. And you can see that in most of the political discussions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 03:01 AM

Slag: "....Ever notice how every metaphor for the spiritual is rooted in the physical world: can't put our finger on it? ..."

Slag: "...I would argue too, that the things that matter most to honest sincere humans are not tangible. There IS a spiritual side to things but not all see this..."

Hawk: "Yeah, there's a spiritual side. I think it's the side that imparts meaning and that gives consciousness..."

Slag: "In Judeo-Christian terms, The Fall!..."

However, IF you've made connection, are you still under ALL the bummers of the 'fall'? If we have 'access', then it would also logical, that if you 'felt' the separation, then the 're-union', your point of view about what life really is, and the compassion of what it is if YOU were trying to 'break through' to communicate, that life, wouldn't it teach you something from THAT point of view? Wouldn't that affect your playing?, Your expression?..and if you write, your lyrics?...and to reach a HIGHER common denominator in mankind, wouldn't your lyrics have more truth in them..especially if you perform it more believably, because its true, and you are IT, delivering IT...so when the listener hears the 'song', a part of him/her identifies with a more personal depth, and their ears perk up?..possibly to add info to that part of them???...I mean, people are thirsty for it, aren't they...especially in the 'folk' circles.

This rises above your typical 'protest' song...especially if they are feeling LIFE in a way, that the comparison between what they begin to think and feel, and 'an issue' normally addressed, is 'taken care of' automatically...you think??

(You may have to read that again, slowly..not sure if I articulated it well enough).

Your music, at that point, makes a quantum leap...because music IS A LANGUAGE!!..and they can't explain why it works!!!..but it does!!...and if you can make it resonate in the listener, within the deeper truths, via emotion, and intelligence, speak to the soul....you've blown them away!!...and its NOT to have the listener 'admire' you, but to admire that part, within themselves, and you spoke to it!!
That is AWESOME...especially if it keeps resonating within them!

Dang...I gotta get some to you...some of this stuff just takes you AWAYYYY....and on the vocal stuff, instead of laying out another 'want' or 'demand', you just lay it out, and be vulnerable...the listener KNOWS what to feel or do, INSTINCTIVELY!..with out 'putting the 'suggestion' in words!

The only deal, is you have to be consummately, honest, with all of it. You can't help dialing it in, with your finger on the pulse.

Yes folks, there IS a common thread through mankind....and we get to link people to it, in a more tangible way..something to be humbly valued for!!

OKAY, enough on this for now....But in closing, the whole of the body politic, whether for or against it, is a big spiritual sink hole!
Higher is better!!

Regards, GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 12:31 AM

Well, I think it's all sacred. That's why I call it "life". That includes our entire experience of everything. Yeah, there's a spiritual side. I think it's the side that imparts meaning and that gives consciousness. It also manifests as love, without which you don't have much of anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 11:24 PM

Sheet fire, ya'll...

Want proof that God does indeed exist all ya' gotta do is open yer sports page and check out the Dallas Cowboys record... That just fir starters... Ya'll ever been on the Pennsylvania Turnpike and you been drivin' thru snow and construction and ya' get to Altoona and so ya' get off, find a $39 a night room and walk down the street and find corner bar where people come to play and listen to blues??? Sheet fire!!! That's God's work... I mean, don't know about Jesus but I'm goin' on record of sayin' the Big Guy is a blues fan... I mean, He gotta be since the blues is the Devil's music, right??? I mean, they say to keep yer friends close but yer enemies closer...

Let's see??? Hmmmmm??? Need more proof of God??? Well, there were these three travelin' salesmen... Ahhhhhh, wrong file...

Okay, back to Altoona, Pa... Can't remember the name of that joint 'er the names of folks I got to play with but they sold ***Iron City*** beer so I was glad that the motel was just a block away so me, my poor ol' geetar and a 2-pack (6 mius 4) of Iron City were able to stumble back thru the snow after an impromptu jam...

See, that shit couldn't happen if God didn't exist... Right???

Square business...

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 10:47 PM

In Judeo-Christian terms, The Fall! We lost the spiritual connection. We know something is missing but can't quite put our fingers on it. < Every notice how every metsphor for the spiritual is rooted in the physical world: can't put our finger on it? Jesus portrayed spiritual truths in parables about known things. I would argue too, that the things that matter most to honest sincere humans are not tangible. There IS a spiritual side to things but not all see this.


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From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 09:32 PM

Slag: "But! The body apparatus is necessary and can serve as an intermediary between the cosmos and the sensory experience."

So, it would seem logical that if the invisible force wanted to communicate with the physical realm, who have 'lost' connection with the 'unseen' it would have to manifest itself into the physical dimension, to speak to it, in this dimension...wouldn't it?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 07:39 PM

LH, I have to agree with a lot of what you state. To me, God is transcendent. I could swap a few definitions with you and know we'd be talking about the same thing. He is wholly other than our observable universe but the inner universe! Ah! Trnascendent in that He touches this world in a different way than psyicallity, with a different type of knowing than what the sensory imput can confirm.

But! The body apparatus is necessary and can serve as an intermediary between the cosmos and the sensory experience. That is, if we seek. I have learned through years of prolonged periods of unrelenting pain that, body does indeed affect perception and in some cases overwhelm. That's stuff for an extended discussion, not here. In one sense, through the human mind we are the means of the universe to behold itself.


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From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 02:28 PM

Nope..it was just to deliver the substance of the part that we needed...but people get hung up in the image of the shell...or being the 'chosen' shell....and miss the food!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 02:25 PM

And an empty shell ain't good for much, is it? ;-)


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From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 02:20 PM

Yo-Ho...the problem, is, as you stated, and I didn't want to C/P....is that what we're saying really has NO conflict with Judeo/Christian beliefs...but some rather believe in the meaning of the shell rather than the yoke!..so they miss it!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 01:41 PM

Yeah...the trouble with calling that omnipresent web of consciousness "God" is...most people immediately imagine some kind of bearded ancient male deity sitting on a heavenly throne somewhere handing out judgement...which would make "him" separate from us! I don't imagine anything like that at all. Anyway, it's fairly useless talking to most people about it, because they usually have a completely different understanding of the word, based on archaic Judeo-Christian religious notions and/or their negative reactions to those notions, so they usually misinterpret what it is that you're talking about if you say "God" and they can't be bothered to listen carefully enough or long enough to find out. So sometimes I call it "God", but I often call it something else instead. You could call it anything you wanted. In Star Wars they chose to call it "the Force". It is that which imparts consciousness and meaning and a sense of identity...of "self" and "other". You could call it "life" too, if you wanted to, and I often do call it that.

It shouldn't matter much that your music is different from mine. I like many kinds of music.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 01:25 PM

Little Hawk: "...We are not our bodies,...."

Funny, I was thinking about posting that Yesterday, while driving into town! I've thought about this one, too...your mind is like a 'modem' that connects 'you' to the massive 'internet' of the collective consciousness'...a part of the creative force, connected to all life.

Some may call it God...but, it DOES connect us all..and works best, when you don't have any 'viruses' in it. Those (viruses) only come into it, if you are negligent, and don't keep your filters clean!

The ability to 'process' information, is called 'intelligence' (by definition of the process, not by opinion).

I was going to add something related to the 'Atheist' thread about that, but haven't got around to it, yet; (just too buried in busy).
but I will.

L.H. am getting set up to make contact with you. Be patient..will do.
I'm wondering now if you'd like the music, being as it is a bit different than what you do..but then, I think you may have an open mind. The BIG one is going to be a trick to send...but I'm sure with a little help from 'Galactic Central' it'll happen!

BTW, Yo-Ho....and stay tuned.......

Regards,
GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 12:53 PM

You can't fool me. There ain't no sanity clause.

-A Marx Brother


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 11:29 AM

Cheers, Slag. ;-) Yeah, there's Dylan influence there, specially when I sing one of his songs.

Regarding the Santa thing...I was the most scientifically rational kid I ever knew. I was studying Darwin's evolutionary stuff in some natural history books at my parents' place before I even went to school. (My mother taught me to read at home.) So it was a leadpipe cinch to figure out that the Santa Claus story couldn't possibly be true. After all, it violated several commonly known natural laws! What I couldn't fathom was that so many other kids didn't seem to even think about that...but their parents probably were the main cause of that. Kids imitate the example put in front of them.

We didn't go to church. My whole understanding of life in those days was scientific rationalism and normal social morality.

Interestingly enough, though, as time went by I discovered for myself that there are vast inner worlds of consciousness in human experience that science has little (if anything) to say about and that they are very real. I now have great interest in spiritual matters...some of which science can touch upon...but most of which science is blind to...so far. There's a physical universe. There's a non-physical universe. The one reaches into the other intimately and at all times, but you cannot observe or contain the non-physical through physical means, and you can't put it in a petri dish and weigh it or measure it. Nevertheless it plays a vital part in imparting consciousness and meaning to the physical...indeed the physical would be utterly dead and useless without it. We are not our bodies, we are our consciousness. It is from consciousness that we derive a sense of self and of meaning. The body, in my opinion, is just a vehicle. My consciousness is the owner and driver of that vehicle, and when the vehicle gets too old to drive, I'll send it to the wreckers and I'll find a new vehicle.


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From: akenaton
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 08:51 AM

Sorry GfS....Someone left some really nice sixties music on my youtube site. Thought it was you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 07:11 AM

Very interesting LH! I detect a little influence perhaps from Mr. Dylan and...maybe a touch of Arlo in there, but your voice is your own and has its own distinction. Nonetheless I like!


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 05:21 AM

Akenaton: "
Yes!!    Santa from Sanity has been to my Youtube!
Thanks for the presents GfS.....   :0)"

Huh?

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: akenaton
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 03:44 AM

Yes!!    Santa from Sanity has been to my Youtube!

Thanks for the presents GfS.....   :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag
Date: 06 Nov 10 - 03:33 AM

Gee, LH you were either a)smarter than me b)didn't have boneheaded neighbor kids who could'nt wait to tell you before you figured it out or c) you ARE a UFO foundling. I wonder what Chongo would say?
At anyrate I see we are the same age.

And speaking of Santa Claus have you heard of the four stages of Man in terms of Santa Claus? Is that a "No"? Do you want me to tell you the four stages? Too bad, I will tell you anyhow.

1. You believe in Santa Claus

2. You don't believe in Santa Claus

3. You ARE Santa Claus

4. You LOOK like Santa Claus!

Merry Christmas- now I gotta go check out your YouTube site.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 10:00 PM

An interesting theory of yours, Little Hawk.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Charley Noble
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 09:26 PM

Refreshing!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:13 PM

Well, I gave the matter some thought when I was very young. I took a look at the chimney, and thought, "There's simply no way a fat man with a bag of presents can come down that chimney. Not possible. Also, sleighs and reindeer can't fly."

I then quizzed my mother about it and asked for an explanation. My suspicion was that my parents were making up the whole thing for some reason.

She confirmed that my suspicions were correct and she explained that it was just a nice traditional story which people told their children in order to help them have fun at Christmas. She cautioned me not to spoil the other kid's fun by bursting their bubble, and to keep quiet about it. That made good sense to me, so I did as she had advised. It was fun knowing that I knew, but not saying anything to anyone. Presently, of course, all my friends also figured out the whole thing and that was the end of it. I haven't had any children, but if I had, I don't think I would have told them stories about Santa Claus. Can't be sure, though! You never know unless you're actually there how strong the social pressures to conform can be on a parent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:11 PM

Actually he delegates a lot of the present giving stuff these days. But he still keeps an eye on what's going on and is always liable to step in, if it's not working out right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 08:02 PM

What's wrong with Santa Claus?
He has free presents in his bag....he's probably a registered Democrat!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:33 PM

Well, I did...for awhile. ;-) But I only tend to believe now in stuff that I've encountered directly...other stuff I keep under advisement, so to speak...as a possibility, but not a certainty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:30 PM

You don't believe in Santa Claus Little Hawk? I am shocked.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:30 PM

Yeah, that's me with the curly hair and the green T-shirt, singing "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry". The other guys (and gal) are musical friends. We get together on Tuesday nights and play songs. One of the guys is Mike Cavendish who ran one of Toronto's seminal folk clubs, The Village Corner, in the late 50s, early 60s. Dylan played his first Toronto appearance there according to Mike, and people like Gordon Lightfoot and Ian and Sylvia played there a lot when they were starting out. Buffy Sainte-Marie and Joan Baez also. Mike is about 75 now, I think, and he's a real character. Loves to talk and tell outrageous stories about those times. I'm 62.

The hair is the real deal, I don't get it done. ;-D


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:20 PM

Cool....is that you, with the curly hair?
You look younger than I thought....(unless you get your hair done)...smirk)

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:16 PM

Hey, I'm here. Cool. Yeah, I'd love to hear that stuff.

I'm not much into Facebook either, don't go there much, but I am on it. You can protect yourself fine on Facebook if you don't post a picture of yourself (which someone can steal for identify theft purposes), and if you don't provide a lot of personal info on your profile such as your entire birthdate (big mistake!), your home address, etc...all of which can again be used for identity theft. You had best also avoid all the various games and free things that are offered there for you to log onto...cos I hear that some of them are viruses or other nasty things.

I also had an extraordinary experience years ago which changed a great deal and shifted my perspective a lot. I don't talk about it on this forum, but it was something that helps widen one's viewpoint considerably, that's for sure. It gives strong reason to believe in the goodness of life and of oneself and of others too.

Yeah, you can definitely get an autograph from Chongo. I can arrange that. I can even get you a pre-issue print of a Chongo Dollar (he's gonna change the design of the Greenbacks after he's elected). ;-D

Like I said, look me up on Youtube.   Under "George Coventry". I think you can send messages on Youtube too.

I've got a CD to come out shortly. You might be interested in that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 07:08 PM

You're welcome, Tom. I don't know how to be somebody else, though....not even while everybody is trying to program everybody to be somebody else!

I might not be perfect all the time, but speed is a bi-product of accuracy....and I can play pretty fast...when I need to.

Sometimes truth isn't polite, sometimes truth isn't 'nice', sometimes truth isn't good news, sometimes it is....all it HAS to be IS the truth..and that's what I want.

(Sorry if that offends anyone in the 'Mudpond').

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag
Date: 05 Nov 10 - 03:15 AM

I don't know where LH got off to but that sounds pretty good to me Ggfs. Stay away from cliffs please and thanks for being your own person.

Tom


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 04 Nov 10 - 12:18 PM

Little Hawk, Yo ho,...Flattery will get you nowhe....Hey, what am I saying!?! I'll figure something out here. I'm not into 'Facebook', with all I've heard about it....but, I'm going to figure someway to touch bases. Maybe send you some music, just for shits and giggles. One of them is TOO big, even in MP3 to fit into an E-mail. Got some vocal stuff, that you may enjoy....but then you might not, either...in which case I'll throw myself off a cliff!..and land on a big cactus!

Sorry, I didn't get back to you sooner.

As far as the 'independent thinker' stuff....something happened to me years ago, (Which I'll get into later), and I saw it all unfold. Can't explain why or how, but it changed everything. When I got together with the Tewa, we instantly hit it off, and we shared lots of ...umm..'notes'(?)...which confirmed a lot of stuff I saw. I even wrote of it, in the first part of a screenplay, in some detail, in 1990. When the screenplay was being looked at, and considered at ...(maybe I shouldn't say here), 911 happened. They loved the work, but because of the events then, they held up EVERYTHING they were doing. In retrospect, and as time went on, it was dead on!!!..However, it has the element of being 'timeless', as they said, but ahead of its time. Well, here we are!! Even though it was sorta a 'love' story, I was also told it was HIGHLY political and spiritual (for the time), though that was not my main intent. I also scored the soundtrack, and film score....some of which,(as soon as I figure this out), I'll send to you.....However it would be for your personal 'enjoyment'....(well 'enjoyment is just an assumption, but most people do a lot)..if not, I'll start looking for that cliff!

Sometimes it seems like its been both a blessing, and a curse(the event I mentioned earlier), but as it came down, that's the cards that were dealt me, so as they say, 'Once you strike the bell, you can't take away the ring'.

Until then I sincerely hope that my thoughts in some of my posts, though some agree, and some don't, have jogged some circuits, to any and all those who write and/or compose. Sometimes we need a nudge to think in new and larger boxes. I know for me, when I hear or feel the angst, in my brothers and sisters, it causes me to compose or play, with the deeper emotions, that we tend to ignore, as people journey away from their own beings, and 'adopt' ideas and outlooks, that are not even real, or their own...as they drift closer to a death of their hearts!

Anyway, I can yak about this later...other than to say, access, through your mind and heart, the 'portal' where the truth lives, and turn is into frequencies, contain the chaos, and make music...for a distant place, ignored, but within you!!

Absolute Warmest Regards!

Guest from Sanity

P.S. Do you think I could get an autograph from Chongo?


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Nov 10 - 11:11 AM

You say "he", Bill? Well, I always assumed it was "he" too, but some people here insist that GfS is a "she". I have no idea what these assumptions are based upon.

I do find, however, that GfS is a truly independent thinker who cannot be defined as either a "liberal" or a "conservative" because he or she is smart enough and flexible enough to see way beyond those ridiculous designations which are presently being used to divide people and shut them up inside a little mental box.

GfS thinks outside the box. That is how you free yourself from the all-pervasive programming that the mass media are doing to the public. You think outside the box. You don't accept their definitions. You don't fall back on standard knee-jerk reactions to keywords. You don't buy into their "divide and conquer" program. You stop believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. You don't allow yourself to be defined as anything but "human".


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Nov 10 - 06:20 AM

The Christmas bill arrives in January BTW


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Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag
Date: 04 Nov 10 - 04:38 AM

I looked Chongo up. He's all over the place but I did not see you, LH

Merry Xmas Bill!


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