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Tune Req: Muhlenburg County? / Paradise (Prine)

DigiTrad:
ENDLESS HOLE
HELLO IN THERE
LET'S TALK DIRTY IN HAWAIIAN
PARADISE or Muhlenberg County
PLEASE DON'T BURY ME
THE FOX (2)
YOUR FLAG DECAL WON'T GET YOU INTO HEAVEN ANYMORE


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Michelle 25 Sep 99 - 12:07 PM
bseed(charleskratz) 25 Sep 99 - 12:59 PM
John Hindsill 25 Sep 99 - 03:13 PM
Banjer 25 Sep 99 - 03:39 PM
Roger in Baltimore 25 Sep 99 - 04:50 PM
bseed(charleskratz) 25 Sep 99 - 05:18 PM
Lonesome EJ 25 Sep 99 - 05:48 PM
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John Hindsill 25 Sep 99 - 08:21 PM
PJ Curtis. 26 Sep 99 - 04:38 AM
Neil Lowe 26 Sep 99 - 08:23 AM
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Subject: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County Song
From: Michelle
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 12:07 PM

I have been looking EVERYWHERE for "Muhlenburg County" or at least I think that's the name of it. Could have SWORN it was by John Prine - but I must be wrong. Some of the lyrics are "Lord won't you take me back to Muhlenburg County, down by the ... river where paradise lay" - or something to that effect. Have been looking for years! Any help would be great... you can contact me at Tessy02@yahoo.com

Thanks in advance!! Michelle


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 12:59 PM

Michelle, it is by John Prine, on his first album--but the name of the song is "Paradise." It's in the DigiTradL: just type PARADVAL in the DigiTrad box at the top of the thread: you'll find the words and a link to a midi of the verse. --seed


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: John Hindsill
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 03:13 PM

The chorus goes something like--

DADDY WON'T YOU TAKE ME TO MUHLENBURG (Muelenburg?) COUNTY.
DOWN BY THE GREEN RIVER WHERE PARADISE LAY.
WELL I'M SORRY MY SON, BUT YOU'RE TOO LATE IN ASKING,
MISTER PEABODY'S COAL TRAIN HAS HAULED IT AWAY.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: Banjer
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 03:39 PM

Beautiful song, indeed!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 04:50 PM

Attention Folk Police:

John just might have snuck one in under the tent with this song. I have met more than one person who assumed this was a "traditional" folk song.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 05:18 PM

It has become a bit of a bluegrass classic, and there are probably lots of people who play it who think it is traditional. Kind of like "Ashokan Farewell" being recorded as "A Shogun's Farewell." --seed


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 05:48 PM

Before the onslaught of the tree-huggers and eco-fascists, it was common practice throughout Kentucky and the other Appalachian states for Coal Companies to simply rip the top off of a hill, ridge, or mountain, empty the coal using trucks and shovels, leave it stripped and broken and move on to the next spot. Western Kentucky was pock-marked with these piles of dead rock, but the coal companies made a ton of money. Along with tobacco, Big Coal controlled the economies and politics of rural Kentucky. Green activism and legislation put an end to this kind of activity. Score one for the good guys.

LEJ eco-fascist


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 06:19 PM

As LEJ is indicating, the song has a strong factual base and protests in a fairly gentle but clear manner. The is a town of Paradise in Kentucky, about 30 miles northwest of Bowling Green. Click here and you will see a map that includes Airdrie Hill. I suspect it is in Muhlenburg County. The Peabody Coal Company does exist. For their view on life click here.

It has been a while since I have read about the struggles between coal companies and environmentalists, but as I remember the Peabody Company did bring in "the world's largest [mechanical] shovel" and it was the "last straw" for many in Kentucky.

It all makes me proud to be a John Prine fan.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 06:31 PM

You will have to ZOOM IN on the map to see Airdrie Hill, it is less than a mile from Paradise.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 07:23 PM

I"m told by a usually reliable source that there's a plaque commemorating the former Paradise Valley in Muhlenberg County. It also stated that, rather than being hauled away by Mr. Peabody's coal trains, it was flooded by a public electrification project.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: John Hindsill
Date: 25 Sep 99 - 08:21 PM

Did I do a bad? Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: PJ Curtis.
Date: 26 Sep 99 - 04:38 AM

Check out John Prine's 'Paradise' on Tim Flannery's excellent album 'Pieces of The Past'. Tim isa baseball Coach with the San Diego Padres. PJC


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: Neil Lowe
Date: 26 Sep 99 - 08:23 AM

John Prine recalls the first time he met Bill Monroe, Monroe complimented Prine on his "version" of "Paradise." Prine respectfully told Monroe that he had written it. Monroe seemed a little surprised. "Oh," he said, "it sounded so 'old-timey' I thought I had written it and forgotten about it." Prine was pleased with the compliment.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: bob schwarer
Date: 26 Sep 99 - 10:06 AM

My map doesn't show county boundries very well, but if Paradise is not in Muhlenburg county it is close enough for poetic license.

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: Neal Huston
Date: 26 Sep 99 - 08:37 PM

I once heard John Prine tell the story on a radio program that his father was from Muhlenburg County. John said that his father didn't care much for his music, so John thought maybe if he included his father in a song, he would like John's music more. I never heard if he did or not.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: HELP! Looking for Muhlenburg County
From: Vixen
Date: 27 Sep 99 - 09:08 AM

One of the old-timey things about this song, imho, is that it lends itself to lyric shifting...yesterday, the local waste management corporation sponsored a huge family day with free food, music, clowns, frisbees, etc, and bus tours of the new ash landfill. For some reason, these words just popped into my head...

Daddy won't you take me to the Quinebaug Valley
Down to the green river where paradise lay,
I'm sorry my son, you're too late in askin'
The ash landfill came and turned it to gray

(now I'll see if the line breaks came out right!!!)

V


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