BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 02:19 PM

"Short-sighted"

I don't need any kinda glasses to read your bullshit that I quoted above. I thought you were making a joke but if YOU believe your bullshit, yer full of it. As for commenting, debating, whatever, it's pretty hard to comment on something that you say you think will happen at some point in the future. That is simply inane, as are some of your "arguements"? "statements"? hypotheses?... really, WTF are such inane postings? Trolling?

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 01:52 PM

To my pedantic detractors,
If you want to repudiate what I've commented on, then just do so, but your weak assaults on me or my character, speaks to me, that you have no just cause or issue, or argument, other than the same nonsense that your political party is doing to the opposing political party! What a shame, to resort to these assaults, rather than putting forth a reasonable exchange of ideas. Now I'm beginning to wonder, if that is the case, because 'reason' requires a mental exercise, instead of a immature emotional attack.

And Mr. Bridge, You sound like a bit of an imperialist yourself!
You say you doubt if I'm from the U.K., and that I'm 'trying to sound like an Englishman'. Tsk tsk, Not all in the U.K. happen to be 'English', though England would wish differently. You obviously are English. You therefore are by probability, a product of the influence of the Bank of England, and just haven't realised all the damage done to your thinking!!
Get well soon, and have a healthy recovery!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 04:40 AM

Mr Nobody does not write like an Englishman. His words read more like an American trying to sound English. They appear to accede to Ayn Rand economics (if that is the word) and politics to an extent that is happily rare in the UK. They seek to conflate government and party resources in a way that is either fraudulent or staggeringly ignorant.

In short, I smell a troll, and one with a familiar agenda.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 02 Sep 12 - 12:05 AM

When the rallying cry of the convention--"WE BUILT IT!"--is based on fraudulent editing of an Obama Speech, and the vice-presidential candidate seems to avoid the truth as if it were about to bite him, It's hard for me to lower the bar for intellectual discourse to any noticeable degree.
And I actually enjoyed Mr Eastwood's little act.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bugsy
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 10:41 PM

"GUEST,nobody in particular",
"Being from the U.K., I cannot find it within myself to commend the Republican Convention, nor denigrate it."

Being from Australia, I had an almost irresistable urge to vomit.

"THIS is what is needed, and to back off the 'emotional' levels of debate!" Give me a break!

As i mentioned in an earlier post, only Red Sovine could have pulled harder on the heartstrings of the punters watching than Mitt Romney,

And the members of the audience wiping tears from their eyes when they saw the cameras pointing at them? Come on! It was laughable.

Cheers

Bugsy

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:41 PM

Nobody is also no-nothing...

All mouth and no brain...

Don Firth's farts are better informed than nobody...

Square business...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:26 PM

Indeed, Ebbie... nobody is quite simply, nobody.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:21 PM

Right...

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:12 PM

"You should then find my last comment quite objective. Can you say as much??"

GUEST, I keep up on political news and I read BOTH sides of an issue. I get newsletters in my e-mail every morning from such sources as "Bob Livingston's Libert Alerts" (Conservative) and "AlterNet Headlines" (Liberal/Progressive) so I can read arguments from both sides of the issues. And these are only TWO of my sources of information. I also read widely. I am very familiar with the works of Ayn Rand and of George Lakoff. And one of my fields of study in college was ethics and political science.

Can YOU say as much??

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:01 PM

Google "Citizens United", nobody... We are being carpet bombed by cowards who don't have to say who they are... For all we know it could be al qeada... There is no way of knowing how much is being spent and by whom... Obama is in the middle of a gun fight with a knife... That is reality...

Oh, and guess what, nobody... Our Supreme Court's Republican clowns say that we don't have a right to know who is attacking Obama with nightly lies... Fuck!!! The Magna Carta laid out a principle that man got to face his accusers but...

...fuck 900 years of legal principle...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:52 PM

Sorry, Bobert, I missed your comment typing mine.
May I suggest to you, that if the Democrats used their campaign funds more wisely, as your country's other finances, perhaps the Republicans would not be outspending them by twenty to one, as you say. Did you ever think about that?

gnu, Your comment is very short-sighted! I have never indicated whether I favour one of your parties over the other. I'm just providing an objective view of both. I believe Little Hawk has done you the same service. Perhaps being a bit less of a cynic, may serve you well!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:39 PM

Ebbie, once again you show your lack of both understanding, and discernment. I am indeed from the U.K. and am now in America, on break from touring.

Mr. Firth, I've been keeping up quite well, thank you. I'm just not deluded by taking one side or the other. You should then find my last comment quite objective. Can you say as much??

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:39 PM

"Nasty0 rhetoric", nobody... Try having lived here in Charlotte, NC for the last 4 months and watch Obama being carpet bombed by Romney's boys night after night on every channel that you can find... Talk about nasty... They have bought up almost all ad spots here and are using them to tell lies, lies and more lies... They don't care if they are lies... They have hogged the advertising and they plan on lying right up to the election...

Some nights they have a 20 to 1 advantage in ads... On a good night it's only 7 to 1... Major secret $$$... These creeps won't even tell us who they are... They hide behind all kinds of flowery sounding organizations that don't exist... Americans for Mom and Apple Pie...

You are misinformed, pal...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:36 PM

"I believe that the Republicans, will be holding back, readying themselves to unleash a barrage of economic and fiscal facts and solutions, on your President Obama during the debates, to make him look flustered, and ill prepared."

Hahahahaaaaaheeeheheheheee. Good one!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:32 PM

"Being from the U.K."

You know what? I don't believe you. Not even for one moment. There could not be TWO such.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:11 PM

GUEST, Nobody in particular, being across the pond, you have apparently missed a lot of the "accusations and worthless mudslinging rhetoric" from the Republicans--including such assininities as trying to claim that Obama launched a weather modification program (cloud seeding and such) to create hurricane Isaac for the purpose of disrupting the Republican convention. Or ceaselessly blaming Obama for the sins and transgressions of the BUSH administration, which Obama has had the task of to trying to clean up after.

If you are going to comment of American politics, then DO try to keep up.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:47 PM

Mr. Firth, Being from the U.K., I cannot find it within myself to commend the Republican Convention, nor denigrate it.My observation is this: Mr. Romney and Mr. Rand failed to lay out a fiscal plan, which may seem like a disappointment to many, myself included, however, I think this may have been a 'strategic move' rather than an omission.

I say this because. I believe they wish to save it till after the Democratic Convention, and unleash it in the debates. When the Obama machine has been, and is churning out accusations and worthless mudslinging rhetoric, and devoting their time and energies to that, I believe that the Republicans, will be holding back, readying themselves to unleash a barrage of economic and fiscal facts and solutions, on your President Obama during the debates, to make him look flustered, and ill prepared.

If the Democrats wish to succeed, they must back off the nasty rhetoric, and begin and intellectual and workable discussion of solutions, dealing with economics, rather than the emotional highs of a utopian American/Marxist Dream,

Now let's stop the hype! After all, that's what it is.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:16 PM

The Republican convention was intellectual dialog?

Coulda fooled me!! All I heard was a lot of self-congratulatory puffery, salted with snarky but unsubstantial comments about the current administration, and attempts to blame Obama for inaction, when it was their OWN bullheaded refusal to allow him to do much of anything he tried to do.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:06 PM

I take away two things from the Democratic response:

1. They criticise Mr.Eastwood's delivery, when they know his health is challenged(how compassionate).

2. And the fact that the Republicans, should hire an accomplished actor/director/musician to speak at the convention, so what do the Democrats do? They hire Eva Longoria, more of a sex symbol than either an actress, non-director, or non-musician!

They must have a insatiable taste for that sexy 'Charm', Ebbie was so much in demand of having!!

That certainly doesn't speak very highly of the Democratic response, AGAIN!

Are the Democrats against raising the bar when it comes to an intellectual dialogue? THIS is what is needed, and to back off the 'emotional' levels of debate! This makes them look weak, needy and impotent, for which they are vulnerable to be attacked, and lose.

I think if the people of either party would be a little more critical of their nonsensical positions, only then could some constructive dialogue begin! As it is now, it is only a satire, and parody of the ridiculousness of the parties they say they are!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 05:34 PM

sheeeesh Guest at 12:20 was me. I am finding that I tossed my cookies longer ago than I thought.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 04:09 PM

Bill Maher on NRC

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 01:12 PM

Bill Maher... no time to make a clicky...

http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/bill-maher-part-1-82912/1415202/

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 12:20 PM

"The Old Man and the Seat"
"There is a President Obama that only Republicans can see."

Great lines.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 11:56 AM

Based on the convention, the GOP should pick a new animal to replace the elephant. I suggest a marsupial: The Muck-filled Platitude

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 11:47 AM

Chongo LOVES this idea of debating with an empty chair! He is going to start "Eastwooding" all his political opponents in just the same fashion. He'll glare at the chair and say things like, "If my mama heard you usin' language like that, she'd rip yer damn face off!" or he'll scornfully remark..."Oh, just have a banana and shut up for half a minute, why don'cha?"

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Sawzaw
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 11:17 AM

Bobert's empty chair talking to him in a senior moment:

"Oh, but Bobert, then you are going to take capital away from the rich and then they won't have the $$$ to build factories to hire everyone else?"

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 10:51 AM

Here is the entire Friday's episode of the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. This is the same video that part of is embedded in bobad's link, but it's the whole show. Just for giggles...

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 09:21 AM

Yes, Jon Stewart does seem to have a clear memory of what the Republicans were doing these last four years to derail Obama's recovery program, compared with Romney's script.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: bobad
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 08:36 AM

Jon Stewart on Eastwood's performance: watch

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:54 AM

"Squeezing the Populace? Of course not, Gnu - Corporations are the solution, not the problem.

Just ask Ida Tarbell and Sinclair Lewis.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 07:38 AM

I'd like to throw something out there for consideration and comment.
I realize this is thread drift but I see it as a germain discussion after hearing Mitt's oration on jobs, jobs, jobs...

Is it possible that corporate America is squeezing the populace with inflated(ing) prices, especially on food!!!, simply to get people to vote for Mitt? Or is that an obvious observation/question?

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: kendall
Date: 01 Sep 12 - 06:35 AM

Corporate profits are at an all time high, yet unemployment is twice what it should be. So much for low taxes creating jobs.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Beer
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:12 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: LadyJean
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 11:02 PM

People have been pressuring the press to point out some of the untruths in Ryan's and Romney's speeches. Which could be embarrassing if it lead. So they had Clint Eastwood on, knowing how much the press loves celebrities, especially when they behave badly.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 10:56 PM

Just watched the balance of Romney's address. He's charming. But such sugary bullshit is appalling to me. If he knows how to create 24M jobs and he loves the USA, why hasn't he done it? He doesn't have to be Pres... he just has to care enough to get it done. Not hold it out as a carrot in some wild west ultimatum. Not say it'll cost you an election... trust me... trust me... I will deliver 24M jobs and tell Putin to go fuck himself. Tall order for a man that hasn't bothered to help America in jobs creation because he isn't Pres. Kinda selfish, innit?

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 08:13 PM

Bill D... "...Parkinsons affects the body, not the mind..."

Bill, Bill, Bill... not being able to pee properly at 5AM affects the mind. Seriously, when I get back into bed and wanna go RIGHT BACK AND PEE AGAIN it real fucking affects my demeanour.... ALL DAMN DAY.

What's that? You're sorry about yer big ass blocking the grocery store isle? NO you are NOT. Yer fookin stunned as a FOOKIN BAT YOU....

Now, is that senile or do I just need a piss? Maybe Clint just needed to pee? I mean, besides maybe having Parkinson's disease... which might impact having a pee, mind you. Hey... LAUNDRY AGAIN? THAT PISSES ME OFF!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Jack Campin
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 07:57 PM

Parkinsons affects the body, not the mind

Parkinsons dementia

Carer information leaflet

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 07:49 PM

"there were no WMD's in Iraq"

Hell, no. Not after the Yanks arrived. That woulda been stunned as me arse.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 07:46 PM

To be honest, I refused to believe Tony Blair (someone who purportedly believed in his immortal soul ) would be guilty of such villainy initially. But when all my friends were proved correct, and that there were no WMD's in Iraq - then I realised I'd been a gullible fool.

The proposition that Osama wasn't EVER in Afghanistan - despite all these films of him in a cave. The possibility that he was in some upmarket hotel in Saudi or Pakistan, or London even.....all the time.


Hmmmmm! well I can't remember anyone else suggesting it.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:49 PM

"Why would we expect an entertainer (like Clint Eastwood) to have a more enlightening view on politics than a person from any other very unrelated profession?"

Well... *grin*.. Ronnie Reagan made it work. But he specialized in 'communication, whereas Clint made a profession of short, pithy remarks. In 10 minutes he managed one or two.

(and, as Michael J. Fox might explain, Parkinsons affects the body, not the mind. Clint's 'speech' showed which one he has the most trouble with.)

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:45 PM

I'll bet ya a beer. If yer ever down this way I'll set ya up with a couple a beers. Interest, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: pdq
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:43 PM

Perhaps the correct write-in vote will be for Empty Chair.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:36 PM

How much ya wanna bet more people cast write-in ballots for "The Chair" than vote for whoever the Greens and the Libertarians cough up combined?

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:34 PM

Big Al Whittle, I sincerely hope that these incidents are not the first times, that it should occur to you, that our governments have lied to us! as well as your Congresspersons and Senators, claimed that they 'didn't know that the reports were false' and were ONLY going by the intelligence reports!
Did you ever believe ANY of that poppycock? Ever???
It was contrived from the very beginning!
This, by now, should be obvious!

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:33 PM

Ebbie,
I got it.
The stuck comma key has been catching my eye (here and elsewhere).
Could be coincidence?

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:30 PM

In the boardroom of BP.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:21 PM

Just occurred to me.

perhaps Osama was never in the foothills of Afghanistan or Iraq - like the WMD's weren't there. Why did we invade those places?

If the person who said the WMD's and Osama was there, perhaps we ought to be tracking him down and slinging him in prison for costing us a lot of money and killing a lot of people.


at least we ought to know at what level this dishonesty was initiated.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: GUEST,nobody in particular
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:18 PM

Sorry I didn't catch the GFS, part, nor did I misunderstand Mr. Goldie's text.

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Charley Noble
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:15 PM

I found the speech a little rambling. At the age of 82 Eastwood is not his own best spokesman but he's one of the few Hollywood celebs that Republicans can count on. So they signed him up.

"Clint has Parkinsons Disease"

I didn't realize that but I still wouldn't cut him any slack for that.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Clint Eastwood's Convention Speech
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Aug 12 - 05:15 PM

"As for the Saulgoldie's surprise about seeing so many coloureds, and women there, maybe you should pay less attention to the Democratic Party's erroneous rhetoric, and pay more attention to facts." GfS

I do believe you misunderstood Saul's post. That is a tremendous surprise to me.