Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: gnu Date: 23 Feb 13 - 08:20 AM Great news! |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 23 Feb 13 - 08:10 AM I was just talking to Tom and reading him this thread, but his breakfast arrived -- pancakes -- so I hung up. Had a nice long talk with the dispatcher at the oil company and was reassured that the delivery WILL be this morning. (While the current sanding holds and before tonight's snow.) The driveway is down to bare dirt in more places, too, than on Thursday. I DESPERATELY need a shower and a hair wash. Then will get dressed. Tom's in really good humor, his voice even sounds better than it has, and he is, of course, looking forward to seeing me. I told him I'd be disguised -- in a mask. He's confident he'll recognize me. Thanks, everybody -- the Mudcat Mojo is working. Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: GUEST Date: 23 Feb 13 - 05:21 AM Lynn Noel here and wishing I had posted earlier. Nothing to say but love, light, and hugs to you both. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: gnu Date: 22 Feb 13 - 10:51 PM Thanks too, Jeri. Linn... keep breathing slowly and deeply. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: GUEST,Mrr Date: 22 Feb 13 - 09:44 PM hang in there, Cute-as-a-button, I mean, Curmudgeon! "From that first little suck of colostrum / To the grope of the nurse in the old people's hostel... ...Fuck, I love boobs though!" |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Charley Noble Date: 22 Feb 13 - 09:41 PM Jeri- Thanks for the update. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Jeri Date: 22 Feb 13 - 08:55 PM Linn picked me up earlier. Her neighbor had done a great job sanding, which required her to run to the town sand place (?) and fill buckets, then spread it around. A lot of ice had melted, too, so there was more actual ground. Got in the car and just drove out. Linn also seemed to have benefited greatly from her sleep. Not over it, but way better. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: ChanteyLass Date: 22 Feb 13 - 08:25 PM Thank you for posting so often. I don't know how you find the time and energy when you are feeling poorly and trying to do something about the icy driveway. I hope you and Tom feel better soon. I'm glad he is off the ventilator. Jeri, good luck getting your car out. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Trad Folkie Date: 22 Feb 13 - 02:06 PM But we have. Its too late. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 22 Feb 13 - 01:11 PM Tired of snow. And at this point, I really just don't need it. Tom's curmudgeonly facade is forever blown all to hell, by the way. His critical care nurse right now was telling me what a "sweetie" he is. Monday morning when I arrived at the ER about an hour after he got there, the nurse escorting me to his room said, "Isn't he a sweetie?" Well, I agree, of course, but I don't think that's the image he tries to project... (Don't let the Press Room gang get hold of this information!) Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bill D Date: 22 Feb 13 - 12:15 PM Latest from my weather program suggests snow Sat & Sun won't be nearly as serious as last one.... storm seems to be splitting and weakening. And rain mixed in and higher temps. I hope that's the case. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 22 Feb 13 - 10:48 AM Crisis averted, I think. Rather than trying to dig from the driveway, I dug down from the deck. (Yeah, right, with my knees...) Found the empty ash can. (Well, at least that's eliminated.) Then found and cleared the other one that is pretty much full. So if the oil delivery guy needs more traction (my neighbor did a decent job of sanding yesterday), we've got something pretty effective. But I think that was my exertion for the day. Really want to take a nap, but I think I need to stay alert for the oil truck. I'll call Jeri and see if she wants to try to get out. My neighbor is coming back after 4 with more ashes, too. Sigh. All of it will be covered up in this weekend's snow, of course... Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 22 Feb 13 - 09:29 AM I'm going to get dressed and see if it's feasible to uncover the trash can of wood ashes. That would definitly solve the ice problem. (Yes, I'll take care of myself. No, I won't push myself too much and make myself sicker. Yes, I'll keep you posted. Yes, if I can't do it, I'll stop.) Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Charley Noble Date: 22 Feb 13 - 08:54 AM Linn- Sounds as if things are slowly improving for you both. Happy to hear that. The Saturday evening storm should dump another 6-10 inches of snow over everything in your neighborhood. We won't get as much where we are in Maine. That's what you get for moving South! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 22 Feb 13 - 08:49 AM Jeri, there might be enough sand on the driveway now for you to drive out. Izo is coming back at 4-ish with more. If I feel well enough to go out for orange juice, eggs and fizzy water, I'll come get you and you can find out. I'll call first. Advantages of an AWD Subaru, especially living where we live. Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: GUEST,999 Date: 22 Feb 13 - 08:37 AM I'm glad Tom's gonna be ok. You too, Linn. Jeri, Spring is on the way. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Jeri Date: 22 Feb 13 - 08:30 AM It would be nice if I could get my car back out before the storm, too. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 22 Feb 13 - 08:23 AM No, MaineDog -- no indication of a stroke. It was the half generic Ambien that got him in trouble. Glad he was in the hospital when he REALLY got into trouble. All the nurses are well aware of my illness -- and appreciate I'm keeping my contageous body away. They don't expect him to leave until next week some time. Meanwhile, I slept 12 hours last night -- every time I woke up took garlic tabs, aspirin if called for, and expectorant. Feel a lot better this morning, but still may not go over there today unless I feel a lot better later. But at least I'm more or less functional today. I DO have to go out and buy eggs, orange juice, fizzy water (seltzer)...but my gut is iffy, so I don't think I'll be going too far afield. Tom sounds good -- I've been filling him in on his lost days. I hope my neighbor can do some more sanding early in the day and that the oil delivery guy comes back so I know I'll get through tomorrow evening's snow. (This has been one of the snowiest Februarys in history -- after two pretty much snowless winters.) Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: GUEST,mg Date: 21 Feb 13 - 10:16 PM if they are talking discharge, be sure to tell them of your illness...you might not be able to care for him right yet. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Janie Date: 21 Feb 13 - 07:25 PM sounds like Tom is doing better. Now you follow suit, Linn. Lots of good thoughts. Janie |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: MaineDog Date: 21 Feb 13 - 06:52 PM Sounds to me like he may have had a stroke. A similar thing happened to my dad, but nobody thought of stroke, so he was not treated. and the rest of the story was not good. Please check for this. I hope things get better soon! Jim |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bill D Date: 21 Feb 13 - 06:41 PM Hoping you dream nice dreams...and that you both feel much better tomorrow. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 21 Feb 13 - 06:24 PM I'm going back up to bed. I NEED an early night. Will talk to Tom, though, before I fall asleep. Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: LilyFestre Date: 21 Feb 13 - 06:18 PM Lots of love coming from our family to yours. Michelle, Pete & Jeremiah |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: wysiwyg Date: 21 Feb 13 - 06:15 PM O n e t h i n g a t a t i m e . . . . Love, ~Susan |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 21 Feb 13 - 05:45 PM Phone is through Comcast -- no cell service at the house. (Try the parking lots at Lee Circle 5 miles away.) What an afternoon! I slept most of the day -- needed it. All the sinus cavities hurt, chest tight, have an unproductive cough. Good news is I can breathe. My brain is pretty much non-functional. And I think I'm running a fever. Jeri picked up some expectorant and a couple packages of On-Cor mac & cheese. Bad news is she got stuck on the glare ice in the driveway. (That's why I have an AWD Subaru.) Put cat litter on the ice, it melts, as freezes on top. I'm pretty much out of cat litter and none of it has gotten into the litter boxes... My up-the-hill neighbor gave Jeri a ride home (about 6 miles) and came back and put down some sand. Will get some more tomorrow. My regular plow person threw out his back, but is trying to call in a favor and maybe get some sand -- the oil truck (I've got 1/8 tank and bad weather is coming in Saturday night) came while Jeri was here, took one look, and gave it a miss. He'll be back later tomorrow (I hope). Yes, we've got a woodstove and firewood, but I'm really sick and Tom is in ICU and blind to boot (which is why we haven't used the stove for two winters). The GREAT news is Tom has the ventilator out and is doing very well. He called me -- just before the power went out. (Ach! The Co-op picks the damnedest time to play around.) Okay, power back on. Talked to Tom's nurse -- he seemed to think he could go home tomorrow (wishful thinking); she says maybe next week. Not sure if that means out of the ICU or actually home. He's just been through quite a lot. (I've got to knock this thing I've got out, too.) Well, that was a little more excitement than I really wanted, feeling like I do today. Arghhh! Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: gnu Date: 21 Feb 13 - 04:11 PM Still here. Brave on, Linn. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Mrrzy Date: 21 Feb 13 - 02:33 PM Still thinking, hoping, and well-wishing! Don't like to read words like blue and unresponsive unless you're talking to berries! |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: ranger1 Date: 21 Feb 13 - 11:37 AM Thanks for the updates, Linn. You know how to reach me if you need anything. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Art Thieme Date: 21 Feb 13 - 10:12 AM Art and Carol say be well!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Feb 13 - 10:11 AM Yeah.....my previous post went by-by or some senile old idiot forgot to hit submit...........Let's say I agree with Jeri and as one who has spent waaaaay too much time on a vent, I can assure you what she says is true. The nurses will give Tom the message if he wants to know and it may take several times before he understands...... I can't imagine negotiating a cell phone on a vent. Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: maeve Date: 21 Feb 13 - 09:55 AM Thank you, Jeri. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Jeri Date: 21 Feb 13 - 09:42 AM Tom is legally blind, so texting isn't an option. I'm not sure they allow cell phones in ICUs either. Plus, he's asleep most of the time just now. Linn called and sounded viral. I have directions for the above stuff, and will pick it up on my way back from faxing some mortgage stuff and going to the credit union. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: wysiwyg Date: 21 Feb 13 - 09:19 AM Text msging on a burn phone? ~S~ |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 21 Feb 13 - 09:05 AM Mary, he fell early Monday morning, after 12:30 (when he was okay) but before 2 a.m when I found him on the floor. He said he was trying to find a chair to sit in -- which he NEVER does in the middle of the night. He had taken half an Ambien sometime probably around 1 a.m. -- I think that caused his disorientation. I have no idea how his wheelchair ended up where it was (in the hall) or why his flashlights were a) in the bed (couch) and b) on the floor on the other side of the room. He landed flat on his back, which is how I found him -- feet towards the couch and head towards his commode. When the EMTs got there we (meaning Tom, too) debated just giving him a lift assist into bed or going to the ER. The EMTs didn't think he had any spinal or neck injury (later verified by X-rays and scans), but he wanted the pain checked out, even though it was probably pulled muscles or bruising. (Which is what the hospital found.) The enzyme that CAN be indicative of a heart attack was elevated when he got to the ER, so Wentworth-Douglass wanted him admitted for observation -- for at least the enzyme cycle. I visited him again when he was in a room. He was bored, thought the mashed potato of his meatloaf supper was disgusting, etc. But coughing was incredibly painful for him (and he has to clear his throat more often than someone who hasn't had throat surgery) so, I think, he tried to avoid coughing. (Which probably caused the fluid in his lungs.) I talked to him on the phone at 9 p.m. and he was sounding really good and in much better humor. Somewhere around midnight he was found without the oxygen tube in his nose, he was blue and unresponsive. They transferred him to the ICU and got him stabilized and on a ventilator. He was awake when I got there on Tuesday morning, but couldn't talk, of course, because of the ventilator. He's been pretty much sedated ever since -- he needs a lot of rest. I just talked to Cathryn his day nurse. I am NOT going to expose either the hospital and especially not Tom's room in the ICU with my chest cold, even with a mask. She agrees completely. I'm going to spend the day mostly sleeping. I hope I can get someone to bring me a bottle of Rite-Aid Expectorant. Vicks on my chest has been working, too. I'll keep in touch with his nurses, and they will call me if anything happens I need to know about. He's in very good hands. They got a bunch of crap out of his lungs and will try again to remove the ventilator today. Tom was evidently awake at some point and asked where I was -- Cathryn told him I was home sleeping. I told her to explain to him, too, that I'm not jepardizing his health by coming there coughing like this. The absolute hardest thing about this is, because he's on a ventilator and can't talk, AND is mostly sedated, unlike other hospital stays, I can't talk to him on the phone. Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: bbc Date: 21 Feb 13 - 09:04 AM Ah, good answers, Linn! If you follow Pat's advice about the Mucinex, I'd recommend just the simple expectorant version. The kind w/ decongestant made me jumpy in the daytime & kept me, totally, awake at night--things you don't need! Love & prayers, Barbara |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: GUEST,SINSULL Date: 21 Feb 13 - 08:33 AM Has the doctor given any explanation of why Tom fell in the first place and why his blood pressure plummeted? Did he maybe have pneumonia to begin with? Scary stuff. Hope he knows we are all thinking of him. Mary |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: kendall Date: 21 Feb 13 - 06:37 AM Zinc and vitamin C. Cold Ease is also good. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: RangerSteve Date: 21 Feb 13 - 04:51 AM Sending good thoughts your way. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: My guru always said Date: 21 Feb 13 - 03:12 AM Hope you're feeling better and have slept well Linn. Looking after yourself is the best thing you can do for Tom, you need to be strong. xx |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Feb 13 - 10:50 PM Zinc, Linn. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: ChanteyLass Date: 20 Feb 13 - 08:23 PM Linn, while I'm sorry that Tom needs to be in the ICU, it is the best place in the hospital for attention from the staff. I know that from the month I spent in one. I'm sorry the first attempt to remove the ventilator was too soon, but I hope the right time is not far off. As for your cold, if you can tolerate it, you might want to throw some cayenne into your food along with the garlic. Tom and Linn, get better, both of you. Love, hugs, and prayers. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 20 Feb 13 - 07:53 PM I'm going to bed in a few minutes. Just ate a toasted English muffin and one of the hard cooked eggs I made this morning. Rest and remedies may knock whatever this is out before it starts. Just talked to his night nurse -- he's quiet and resting. I'll down a potion and rest quietly myself. And I'll wear a mask when I get to the hospital -- should have worn one to keep from picking up the cough in the first place! (I assume it works both ways.) G'night, all...thanks for all the good wishes. Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: GUEST Date: 20 Feb 13 - 07:13 PM Not a good idea to take a cold into the ICU, is it? |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Feb 13 - 07:00 PM HAng in Linn....>Try Mucinex. Works well. Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: GUEST,Don Hale Date: 20 Feb 13 - 05:56 PM Linn, finally figured out how to find this thread. We are keeping the good thought here in Norwood and await good news! Don & Cathy |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: gnu Date: 20 Feb 13 - 05:55 PM Indeed, Linn... rough stuff. Take solace in the fact that you are doing all the right things. Brave on and try to rest well... for you AND for Tom. |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 20 Feb 13 - 05:43 PM I think I'll take my garlic orally tonight (but thanks, John...) in the sauce to go with some shrimp on top of pasta with too much grated Romano. Or maybe just something frozen (I can add more garlic & cheese) that I picked up on the way home yesterday. I'm not feeling particularly ambitious... The thing I most miss the past couple days (since 9 p.m. Monday) is TALKING to Tom... Linn |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: gnu Date: 20 Feb 13 - 05:34 PM Oh, Linn... I have no words, except to say you are doing the right things. Bravo from me. Now... "Peel a clove of garlic, insert it as a suppository (guess where), and leave it in situ overnight." followed by "Bummer about your cold!" ??? That strike anyone else in the funny sphincter? |
Subject: RE: BS: Curmudgeon in hospital again From: Bat Goddess Date: 20 Feb 13 - 05:03 PM Airbornes and Cold-Eeze have worked for me often. I talked to Tom's nurse a little while ago. They tried taking him off the ventilator, but it was judged premature, so he's still sedated and, even if he were awake, couldn't talk because of the ventilator. I'm not going back today -- all I'd be doing is tiring myself out (and setting back stomping out the cold) just to listen to him breathing. And they really don't need me there even with a mask on. I've got a decent arsenal of cold preventives and remedies, so I don't need to go out for more right now. And, while I'd love a couple more packages of On-Cor frozen mac & cheese on hand, I think I can whip up some other comfort food for supper tonight. Something I can add a lot of garlic to. So, I'm going to go up to the mailbox and collect the mail and then turn around and come right back here. I'll call Tom's night nurse Janet after the "changing of the guard" and she's had a chance to observe him for awhile. Jeri, I'm still working on the half-priced heart-shaped boxes of chocolates I bought the day after Valentine's Day. Oh, and there's the most of that batch of Nigella Lawson's no-churn chocolate ice cream that I made on Sunday. (Not to mention ginger tea and honey.) Linn |