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Subject: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Rapparee Date: 28 Jun 13 - 12:03 PM Perhaps I'm overwhelmed or perhaps it's my age, but I have a hard time working up righteous indignation anymore. I expect the government to spy on me. Until the damnedfools in government decide to spend what they should on the mentally ill, I expect horrendous slayings and terrible things to happen. The Sunnis hate the Shiites, the Orangemen hate the Catholics -- such examples have been going on for literally centuries. I can't do anything about it except deplore it. Everybody, it seems, needs someone to look down on and to feel better than. You can use me; perhaps you ARE better than I am (but I if you look down on people you'll probably wrong). People scream at each other instead of engaging in rational discussion. They interrupt someone else to give their own opinion, which has been given over and over and over. I can't help it that they were brought up without manners and are unfit for polite society. The IRS investigates Right-Wing groups who apply for tax-exempt status, and do the same for Left-Wing groups. Isn't that their job? There's injustice and ugliness and sin and evil all over the place; what it is depends upon whom you speak to. Been that way for thousands of years, and much in the past makes the present look right rosy and nice. Frackiing, global warming, depletion of resources, and such like stuff -- I've reduced, reused, and recycled all of my 68 years. Until recently every care I owned got at least 25 mpg in the city. The vast majority of people hang out with others who think as they do, and then this incestuous thought group believes everyone else thinks the same way and gets mad when they discover that the majority don't even know how they are. No, I have a hard time getting excited about much these days. Perhaps it's an overdose. As the says goes, "Information is abundant. Wisdom is scarce." |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Little Hawk Date: 28 Jun 13 - 12:12 PM Well....I think the best way to get excited is to be deeply in love with someone or something. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: VirginiaTam Date: 28 Jun 13 - 12:45 PM Don't forget GM and proccessed foods full of unnatural things and dying bees. Sigh. Unfortunately I am still able to get excited. My blood pressure is going nuts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Little Hawk Date: 28 Jun 13 - 12:51 PM The job of "the News" is to keep you scared, outraged, helpless, distracted, and dependent on the people who produce "the News", just like in the novel "1984". I suggest focusing on something you love instead. Time is ticking by... |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: olddude Date: 28 Jun 13 - 01:02 PM Raps right, it is all shit anyway |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: JohnInKansas Date: 28 Jun 13 - 03:37 PM I've found it a lot easier to approach the world with a rational attitude since discovering and accepting the axiom: Avoid the assumption of Ill Intent John |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: gnu Date: 28 Jun 13 - 03:46 PM I seldom get excited. Usually, it's by rude, arrogant, self-aggrandizing bullies. Or the "Monsantos". Or the politicians. Ot the war mongering corporation. Or... oh dear! |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST Date: 28 Jun 13 - 04:28 PM P.S.: I try to do good things "in my own backyard." Please do not think that I've given up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST,Musket sans ED Date: 28 Jun 13 - 04:35 PM When I saw the title of this thread I was going to point out that Viagra goes generic next month. Price will drop 90% by Xmas. Or so I read, out of nonplussed lack of interest you understand. ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Ebbie Date: 28 Jun 13 - 04:35 PM How can I think you have given up, Guest, when I don't know who you are? I know lots of people who *have*. I still get excited or exercised on a variety of issues, but I fully understand Rap's litany. Sometimes I feel like throwing up my hands and saying, Whatever. And I hate that phrase. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST,Rapparee Date: 28 Jun 13 - 04:49 PM That there last GUEST was me. I'm having pooter problems. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Rapparee Date: 28 Jun 13 - 04:50 PM Okay, I'm now as much myself again as I ever was. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 28 Jun 13 - 04:53 PM If you feel swamped by all the problems in the world, you can at least turn to the smaller issues near at hand. A neighbour or volunteer organisation may benefit from some help and you can make small changes and improvements. And speaking for myself, I also pray. I have faith that God will do something about it all. But 'getting excited' is for the young and active. I'm too old now! |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 28 Jun 13 - 05:17 PM Do you have to get excited? Isn't it enough to do what you can, donate what you can, then get on with life? Most people don't even do that much. Psychology tells us that we can care, really care, about 50 people at the most. When the Internet and the media engulf us with the sufferings and wrongdoings of the 7 billion people on earth, we are overwhelmed. And then there's the cold-blooded troublemaking - the alarmist stuff, the propaganda, the false accusations, the never-ending ethnic squabbles. That really wears us down. To sum up, Rap. Never mind. You're doing okay. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Ed T Date: 28 Jun 13 - 05:27 PM List of things that I used to enjoy, but aren't fun anymore,. Add to it, if you are up to it anymore:) Going to the beach - skin cancer Fishing - mercury, imperelled stocks Drinking - liver problems, driving issues Screwing - Aids,antibiotic resistant STDs Joking around - politically right sensitivities Looking at women - Women's rights groups (also, see above) Reading - poorer eyesight, the internet Fast Cars - Accurate radar, gas consumption Eating - getting fat, sodium, trans-fats and other additives Listening to Music - the parasitic music industry Boxing amd MMA - hurting folks Football - head injuries Hockey - unions Sports competitions -big salaries, endorsements and drugs Movies - Big visuals versus story content Boobs - are they real? Strip joints - Biker gangs Wine - Migrains Pizza and Chinese grub- food additives (also see sodium) KFC - heart attacks Crusty bread - white tastes good but is health-bad |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Little Hawk Date: 28 Jun 13 - 05:36 PM You need a good talk with Chongo, Ed. He'll have you enjoying at least half that stuff again in no time flat. ;-) "Live today like it was yer last." - Chongo Chimp |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: akenaton Date: 28 Jun 13 - 06:06 PM I was talking to one of my sons today about how, when I was an apprentice,the workers used to engage in real conversations....many of the men had been through a major war...some two wars and they had seen it all...no bullshit, they knew what was important in life and could speak with authority on many subjects. Today despite all the information available, most of the population seem clueless and dumbed down....maybe its the mass media, maybe information overload, but there it is, a load of static, much screaming and shouting about fuck all....and no serious search for knowledge. I think I agree with Rap, we just seemed to be carried along in some swollen river of nonesense, unable to drag ourselves out. Our spirit has been diluted, the causes we scream about would seem like a joke to the old boys who fought and died for a generation who threw it all away. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: gnu Date: 28 Jun 13 - 06:30 PM Ed... yeah! But... "Drinking - liver problems, driving issues" I don't drive when hoisting. Liver problems? Dire Straights's "Heavy Fuel". Current sold out on YT and so, no link. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Elmore Date: 28 Jun 13 - 06:46 PM If I want to work up righteous indignation, all I have to do is listen to the latest collection of right wing bozos in Congress. Even worse, both the left and right are too spineless to do anything about gun control. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Rapparee Date: 28 Jun 13 - 07:24 PM ...the causes we scream about would seem like a joke to the old boys who fought and died for a generation who threw it all away. Well said, Ake. I worked with/for such men. One, Stan, still had the scars on his wrists from being bound by the Gestapo with barbed wire. Ralph had a canteen cup with the names of the seventeen Pacific Islands he'd served on as a Corpsman with the US Marines. Still another had served under Harry Truman in WWI and another had served at Vimy Ridge -- he'd been Canadian at the time. Both of my brothers and myself were in the military at the same time...both brothers served in the debacle of Vietnam and I was on the DMZ in Korea. Perhaps it's because my wife and I recently revised our wills (every five years, need it or not). Could also be because I've been trying to help veterans get what they deserve from the Veterans Administration. I dunno. I'll just keep trying to help out in my own corner of the world -- my youthful idealism got lost somewhere hiking around carrying a machine gun and cynicism took root. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Bobert Date: 28 Jun 13 - 09:47 PM Here's the deal, Rap... Ol' Bobert knows what he's talkin' about here so don't go stickin' yer head in the sand comin' out about eatin' worms... Time to visit the bucket list... Okay, starting fullback fort the Packers is out... Lot's of stuff is out... Who cares??? Goes with age, dude... There's still stuff in the bucket list... Feel deep down in the bottom... It's there... Me??? I'd like to take a freighter to Australia... Play me geetar on the way and meet up with some of the fine folks here from there and have a good time with them... Come on, Rap... Reach in there... There's plenty of stuff... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Rapparee Date: 28 Jun 13 - 10:14 PM Bobert, I don't have a "bucket list." Like the birders, I have a "Life List." We've got a cruise coming up this August, RI to NB and back. This winter we want to take a trip up to Whitehorse or Yellow Knife to see the aurora. Why, next week I plan to cut the grass. Don't worry about me running out of things. I just can't generate a lot of Righteous Anger these days about things over which I have no control, like Congress and the Middle East and Greed. Yeah, I can work politics next year but if I do I'll concentrate on the local candidates and issues. BTW, Pocatello just recently passed an ordinance banning discrimination based on sexual preferences (sorry, only human to human). |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 28 Jun 13 - 10:49 PM Well, at least yer sorry about it. That's a start. - Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Rapparee Date: 28 Jun 13 - 11:25 PM I figgered that'd draw Chonga. No, you still cannot keep animals in your house for...well, you can't do it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 29 Jun 13 - 12:03 AM A theme song??? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Bobert Date: 29 Jun 13 - 11:19 AM Don't listen to GfinS, Rap... It ain't the end of the world as we know it... I've figured it out... Apparently you can do whatever you want to do... Cruises, etc... Lotta people can't do that so be thankful that you have the resources to do that... Maybe that's yer problem... Maybe you need to suffer a little... I mean, there are lot's of way to get to suffering... You know, like telling yer wife that that dress makes her butt look big or telling her that her hair looks lousy... That'll get ya' suffering like pronto... No, I mean, like some kinda survival thing... Hey, here's an idea... Make a whacked out you-tube and send it to "Survivor" and maybe you get a month on some deserted island with a bunch of 20 year old girls in bikinis... Now that's what I call sufferin'... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Little Hawk Date: 29 Jun 13 - 11:24 AM Oh, what a fantasy... |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Ron Davies Date: 29 Jun 13 - 11:27 AM Don't worry, Rap. None of it makes any difference anyway. It'll all be solved soon--National Brotherhood Week is coming. And now this is a music thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Rapparee Date: 30 Jun 13 - 01:48 AM The cruise and the trip Up North were planned some time ago to celebrate our 40th Anniversary -- usually Pat is somewhere else, but this year she'll be at home and I'm planning to be at Getaway. A lot of saving and planning goes into stuff like those things. We try to plan them at least a year out. Suppose I had some money -- say a couple million dollars, not one of the billionaires, but sitting okay. Know what I'd do with it? Nothing. Nothing would change. Of course, it's easy to say that when you don't have it and have no expectation of it. But I'm pretty sure I'd keep right on doing what I'm doing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 30 Jun 13 - 04:28 AM ...and then, there's always this.......... ...and this!!! Now, together...... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Ed T Date: 30 Jun 13 - 09:38 AM Below the line music: Billy Bragg "No One Knows Nothing Anymore" |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Elmore Date: 30 Jun 13 - 11:27 AM Just got a shot of righteous indignation when someone on another thread accused someone else of assassinating the character of the NRA. Geez. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Ebbie Date: 30 Jun 13 - 11:59 AM "...you get a month on some deserted island with a bunch of 20 year old girls in bikinis... Now that's what I call sufferin'..." Beaubie "Ah, a man's reach should exceed his grasp..." |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 01 Jul 13 - 11:29 AM Ebbie, Maybe he was thinking that he needed to get a grip on himself!..but then he forgot, 'It's difficult to get excited anymore...' GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Little Hawk Date: 01 Jul 13 - 12:31 PM Try robbing a bank, Rap. Nothing but excitement from beginning to end. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 01 Jul 13 - 12:55 PM ""maybe its the mass media, maybe information overload, but there it is, a load of static, much screaming and shouting about fuck all....and no serious search for knowledge."" Or maybe it's just the way you perceive those who disagree with your superior wisdom and knowledge? Did you ever stop for one moment to think that anybody else might have a point. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 01 Jul 13 - 12:56 PM Anybody who disagrees with you, that is. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Rapparee Date: 01 Jul 13 - 01:32 PM C = W log2(1+S/N), where C is channel capacity measured in bits/second, W is the bandwidth in Hz, S is the signal level in watts across the bandwidth W, and N is the noise power in watts in the bandwidth W. |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 02 Jul 13 - 08:40 AM Don(Wyziwyg)T: "maybe its the mass media, maybe information overload, but there it is, a load of static, much screaming and shouting about fuck all....and no serious search for knowledge."" Or maybe it's just the way you perceive those who disagree with your superior wisdom and knowledge? Did you ever stop for one moment to think that anybody else might have a point." Or maybe it's just the way you perceive those who disagree with your superior wisdom and knowledge? Did you ever stop for one moment to think that anybody else might have a point." GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Suzy Sock Puppet Date: 02 Jul 13 - 06:06 PM Wow, I can totally empathize Rap. I was just about to cry- then I saw Marx wearing a lampshade :-))) |
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Subject: RE: BS: It's difficult to get excited anymore... From: Joe_F Date: 02 Jul 13 - 08:46 PM JohnInKansas: I applaud the charitable impulse in the saying you recite, but I regret to say that in my observation it is based on a false dichotomy. Stupidity & malice are often intimately related. In particular, frightened people favor the kinds of stupidity that are helpful in being mean. On topic, I recommend http://books.google.com/books?id=hy47AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA211&lpg=PA211&dq=%22the+cult+of+hope%22&source=bl&ots=DeBDfkb5nA&sig=r66oi-00ej1K3qGeKhvs8UBEovA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ynPTUZ2GOI_k4AOW1IGIBQ&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=%22the%20cult%20of%20hope%22&f=false |
