BS: lets develop Scotland

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 08:17 PM

Dave, I'm getting a bit sick of your parrot like misrepresentation.

All folks who live in Scotland are entitled to vote; I am not advocating removing the vote from retired rich English, just remarking on their hypocrisy in moving here, availing themselves of the benefits fought for by Alex Salmond and his government, then vociferously proclaiming that we should all vote against independence.

Noo away an' bile yer heid!

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 06:46 PM

great song JIM ! well done ! have you been round playing it much?

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 06:45 PM

Jim, if that's wan eh yours, its a wee smasher!! :0)

Dunno how the boys are gaunnae cope wi' "There'll be cataclysmic bombshells, the world'll fall asunder", eftir a couple eh pints right enuff!

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 06:32 PM

BTW - I am all for the introduction of a real Watford Gap :-)

(No offense to my friend south of that divide!)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 05:33 PM

This vote is not only for Scots but for ALL the peoples who live in Scotland who want fair political representation.

It should be, Sol, but ake has already said that the English living there should have their views discounted. Glad to say that your view is the one that I find to be more representative.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Sol
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 05:28 PM

"All true and free thinking Scottish people will vote for union." -Musket

I consider myself a free-thinking Scot I will be voting yes - to break free from the 'Musketeers' and their ilk. [Though I do suspect our friendly agitator may be just a wind up merchant ;-)]

This vote is not only for Scots but for ALL the peoples who live in Scotland who want fair political representation. FWIW, nearly all the folk I know who have move here from over the border are voting 'yes'.

Here's a wee thought....
Prior to the referendum, why don't we move the border down to Watford and leave the SE to play Monopoly.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Jim McLean
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 02:26 PM

I've often heard it said by oor leaders doon in London
Auld Scotland will be knackered if we vote tae leave the union,
Tae listen tae the wireless or telly they won't let us
They'll stop oor pocket money and the Russians will get us
For it's oh dear me, whit will ah dae
If we have tae pit up wi Westminster.

Clegg and Alexander and funny wee Vince Cable
Tae fend for oorselves, they tell us we're no' able
And Miliband agrees wi the Liberals and Tories
Wee Dougie Alexander is makin' up the stories
For it's oh dear me, whit will ah dae
If we have tae pit up wi Westminster.

There'll be cataclysmic bombshells, the world'll fall asunder
The sun will disappear in a roaring clap of thunder
Ben Nevis will fall down and Loch Lomond will freeze over
But by staying in the Union we'll be rolling in the clover,
For it's oh dear me, whit will ah dae
If we have tae pit up wi Westminster.

But we don't believe their threats for a brighter day is dawin'
An Cameron and Miliband can stop their crouse crawin'
We don't believe their lies and the promise o' disaster
For Scotland will flourish, free from London's bluff and bluster,
So let's be free, oh whit a day
When we say Cheerio tae Westminster.
Yes, let be free, oh whit a day
When we say Cheerio tae Westminster.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 02:18 PM

Ty ...... DTG
Noman is an island too
Jist geid ye that for free
Wid make things more interstin
If we a' took it a' in turns
An' took the time and posted
In the style o' Rabbie Burns

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 01:47 PM

We a' focht to keep this island free.

I didn't know Scotland was an island? Still, in the spirit of the post...

I asked a Scot if he would beheid,
ma mate fra' England 'cause he did nae work
The Scot said I need to look at Spain
I dinnae know why. Maybe he's a jerk?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Kenny B Sans Kuki
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 10:31 AM

Guess which way im voting
Please reply in verse

Ally's Tartan Army

Chorus
We're on the march wi' Ally's Army
We.re a' gaunie vote for tae be free
When we're free we're gaunie boast
We dinnae ken or care the cost .
Cause Ally has said " itll a' be nearly free
and oil will pey"
Cause Ally has said "itll a' be nearly free

He has promised this and that
tae those that tip their hat
He has courted far and wide
For funds and such.
A' critics he dismisses
while the rich folks erse he kisses
Saying Scotland will be better under me
and who's he kiddin
Saying Scotland will be better under me .... Chorus

When they frackin English start
the price of oil will fa' apart
Diminishin returns will be our fate
A' the goodies he has promised
Will be forgotten or diminished
And those that choose tae break will rue the day
Will rue the day
And those that choose tae break .... Chorus

He forgets oor faithers focht
Tae defend the bloody lot
We a' focht to keep this island free.
He's no been asked, so he's no disputin
That he's done a deal wi Putin
Just in case the EU wont agree,
tae let us in
Just in case the EU wont agree, .... Chorus

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 06:35 AM

No one is denying that there are huge problems of drug abuse and youth unemployment in deprived areas of Scotland, but these problems are ALL historic and can be laid at the door of successive Westminster governments, both Labour and Conservative.

We will NEVER be able to tackle these very real problems, until we have complete control of our own affairs and can work out our own priorities.
A "NO" vote is a vote for a status quo, which is more of the "medicine" Westminster has been doling out for decades.
I agree with Jock, if you are happy with YOUR country as it is, butt out and allow us to made the decisions which concern US.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Musket
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 05:46 AM

Aye, its quite capable of its own malaise. Public health statistics that would make a third world country blush, government riding roughshod over public concern when it comes to oil barons and Americans wanting more gold courses and an unhealthy set of entries in most and least affluent council wards in The UK. A couple of Tories will still own Scotland between them, regardless of the outcome.

All thanks to SNP and Labour taking turns in running Scottish affairs. Tell you what, Cameron and his lot may not be my cup of tea either, but I shall happily let them off the hook when Salmond stands in a run down council estate in Dundee and tells them they never had it so good... It was hilarious when the camera panned to a bloke looking round at the broken windows, dog shit and burned out cars whilst he was speaking about their successful economy.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Jun 14 - 12:07 AM

yeh.... abit nothing compared to the highland clearances though.....!

we won't move because my wife asked to retire here on the south coast - but if Scotland went independent, and it was my choice entirely. I would move there.

I think tory government is a blight on the country - its like recurring nightmare. I t just never occurs to them to develop the rest of the country apart from the south east where all their constituencies are.

its okay I suppose if you're in with the fast set, but theres all kinds of really bad shit happening - because the rest of the country is not getting its fair share of jobs and economic development.

the dependence on low wage immigrants, the obscene property prices around the capital, the drug culture and the people living on the streets - which previous to Thatcher were completely unknown in this country - its all a consequence of the grab it now culture.

Scotland has been treated shamefully. if it has a chance to break free from the malaise that grips the rest of this poor country - i'd say go for it!

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: LadyJean
Date: 21 Jun 14 - 10:43 PM

I just read about some young people in Scotland who put bacon in a mosque in Edinborough, which isn't a nice thing to do. But I'll take it over the people here who broke into the Islamic center one night, turned on all the water taps, then stopped the drains to flood the place. Bacon is only dangerous if taken internally.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Giok
Date: 21 Jun 14 - 05:35 PM

Haven't read all of this thread, but having read the first 3 or 4 posts, I have only one response.

FUCK OFF

Go screw with your own country.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Musket
Date: 21 Jun 14 - 04:10 AM

He's lost the plot.

Possibly from birth.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 Jun 14 - 03:34 AM

OK Dave, take a look at Spain...if you need a mirror.

I really have no idea what you are on about. I ask if you would deprive my mate of his home and you go on about Spain and mirrors. WTF???

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jun 14 - 03:24 AM

OK Dave, take a look at Spain...if you need a mirror.

"We" are the people who live and work here, who have grown up surrounded by Scottish culture....who understand and cherish what it means to be a Scot in word a deed.

You and I, Ian, move in very different circles, I do not have the luxury of the "holiday lifestyle" ...nor wish for it.
I spend most of my time in reality, except for small excursions into Mudcatland. :0)

I am on first name terms with hundreds of people all over South Argyll...I knew their parents and sometimes their grandparents.
I am trusted implicitly.   I am proud of my place in our society.

You stick to your chosen lifestyle and I will stick to mine, but you learn little of life or culture from "casual aquaintaces"

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 03:12 PM

Perhaps Scotland should elect Donald Trump Chief of Scotland and all development of all Scottish wasteland seaside locations into golf courses.

The definition of wasteland is that it is either near the sea or mountains and thus may be purchased for a penny per acre after being condemned by the TRUMP BOARD OF OVERSEERS. (TBOO)


But seriously, what does Sean Connery think about a free Scotland?

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 02:51 PM

WTF are you talking about ake? Who wants to make what a place like what? Are you finding life too difficult for you so you are resorting to goofus tactics and talking complete nonsense?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 02:45 PM

We enjoy Scotland because we avoid bumping into idiots like you. I spent a smashing few days in Inverary last month with friends and we look forward to their wedding later this year.

We spent a week then in Fife, visited friends and had a lovely time in one of my cottages in Anstruther. Then a week in The Cairngorms. Absolutely wonderful and as ever with wonderful people.

Not one person we met or heard was anything like Akenaton. A loner in his own back yard.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 02:31 PM

Same old nonsense, no wonder we want rid of them.

If they love Scotland so much, why do they want to make it just like the place they can't wait to escape from?
Embrace the future ya Sassenachs, develop a bit of national pride!

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Musket
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 02:10 PM

I'd behead myself for living near him...

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 02:05 PM

So at what point in the near future do volatile extremist armed separitists turn Scotland into the UK's Eastern Ukraine

Seems to have already happened here. Ake would behead anyone English retired person living in Scotland.

Nice.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 01:50 PM

So at what point in the near future do volatile extremist armed separitists
turn Scotland into the UK's Eastern Ukraine....????

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 01:27 PM

Salmond's position is that his first preference would be a formal shared currency. The advisors to the Scottish parliament which included two Nobel Laureates in economics suggested it would be beneficial for both Scotland and the rUK though they gave other options too. So of course others may disagree but it isn't the fairytale thinking that some would suggest. Initially the thought was that Salmond was just thinking of it as a stepping stone. Kirsty Wark on Newsnight tried to get him to suggest he'd commit to it for at least 40 years which he refused to be drawn into it. When the unionist parties came out with the "it's not going to happen" without really any apparent consultation some in the Yes campaign suggested it was a campaign strategy more than a serious response to the idea and that it would at least be discussed should there be a Yes vote. The No campaigns problem though is that they've thought various things, including this one, were game changers but of course they haven't been. The main driving force is that many people feel that only controlling our own destiny will in the long run enable us to build the type of society and nation we want - so despite the barage of "we love you but wouldn't work with you" coming from Westminster the polls have still been closing. Of course should there be a currency union then financially Scotland would be constrained by economic rules etc and they would have only a voice on the BofE and wouldn't control much - but of course at the moment we have no control anyway and the Scottish gvt has no voice. Many people feel that the big matters are being controlled by a gvt which has no real mandate to do so. On many other matters an independent Scotland would have far more control over its destiny than it has at the moment.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Musket
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 11:18 AM

I wouldn't bother anyway if I were you.

Until you learn to behave in society and keep your bigotry in your head, I'd laugh in your face should you ever apologise anyway.

You need to apologise to a hell of a lot of people ahead of me, that's for sure.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 08:32 AM

I apologise only to those deserving of such.

You Ian, are deserving of many things, but an apology is not one of them.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 08:30 AM

They may not like dealing with an independent Scotland, but there will be no alternative....unless you are keen to cut off your nose to spite your face.   :0)

Of course that's a pillar of "liberal" ideology.....isn't it Ian :0)

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Musket
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 08:23 AM

The people of the UK do not wish their interest rates to be set on Scotland's risk and exposure with no method of controlling Scotland.

The people of Scotland do not wish interest rates to carry on being set by The UK with no way of influencing them, should the yes vote carry.

Find a friend to explain it to you. There are some Scots with such intelligence. Adam Smith put his willy about, I am told.

If Allan or anyone else with intelligence and considering how they will vote can explain how an independent Scotland will be free of the UK when Salmond speaks of negotiating having the structures with none of the say, I'd be genuinely obliged. I cannot begin to understand the logic beyond the aurora of nationalism and short term politics.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 08:13 AM

I also agree Mr T, it would be nice if everything was down on paper, signed and sealed, but that is not the way it works when there are politicians involved.
All the issues you mention, monetary union, EU membership(I hope not),the property scam, Where we stick England's nukes etc, will sort themselves out in ALL our interests after the referendum vote.

However, at the moment it is in the interests of Westminster to be as divisive and as negative as possible, although they know very well that Monetary Union is in BOTH our interests they just cannot say it, they are playing "politics". Trade with England will go on as usual, as they know very well it is in BOTH our interests.

We need inspiration, we have a strong sense of National identity, but we are failing a whole generation who lost their jobs and theirs heart when our manufacturing industries evaporated....and I don't blame Mrs Thatcher for that totally, I am not an idiotic ideologue like Ian.
The children of these hopeless people now exist on benefit handouts in "sinks" all over Scotland.....To the shame of successive Westminster governments

YES! for Scotland, and YES to our blighted young people!

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 08:02 AM

Ake I know many English people living in Scotland and yes some (like my wife) are definite No whilst others are definite Yes. The point is though that they make their decision as they wish. It is a free democratic choice. And undoubtedly it doesn't all come down to finance etc. It could be argued that some Scots are drawn to the Yes camp for the emotional pull it has - just as some English born people may be emotionally pulled towards the union. However it does no good to break the figures down too much and almost start laying the blame. Besides we all know from the polls who the Yes camp have to persuade and it is Scottish women whatever their origins. Some polls have shown a male majority for independence but the female vote (for some reason) is well behind. We aren't going to badger and bully our wives, mothers and daughters because they don't agree with us are we? So why should we badger our English born neighbours! We can't say we are welcoming to everyone regardless of origins etc if we are only going to be welcoming if they agree with our views!

I also don't agree with this idea that elderly English people come here for the benefits. In the Borders we have a lot of English incomers and yes some have moved here once they are retired. Generally it is because they've loved coming to Scotland on holiday so decided to retire here. Places like the Highlands and Borders have more English incomers because they are nice rural places to live out your retirement. The Borders of course being the handiest place for visits back south or visitors from down south!

And sorry yes holiday homes is a problem in places like here but again you can't blame it on the English. Kirk Yetholm seems to be particularly full of holiday homes but as far as I can see the owners are as likely to come from Edinburgh as anywhere else.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Musket
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 07:34 AM

I need a drink. Teribus can occasionally speak sense after all.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Teribus
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 06:37 AM

I can remember stating on this forum that the referendum on Scottish Independence would be mid to late term of the next Parliament ~2015 (IIRC that was in 2007). I was then pulled up on that and was told that the referendum would take place within the term of the sitting Parliament no later than 2010.

That being the case you would have thought that had the SNP been serious about the independence issue they would have had all the answers worked out in detail to all the questions on the issues that are of prime importance to the people of Scotland and the electorate of Scotland by the summer of 2009 at the latest.

I therefore find it astonishing with less than 90 days to go the YES campaign and the SNP in particular cannot give definite statements on any of the main issues - they simply do not have a clue, they rely on groundless assertions and baseless assumptions.

Something like 80% of Scotland's trade is with England and the rest of the United Kingdom - If the vote is YES there will be a massive flight of capital and jobs out of Scotland, and the newly independent Scotland NOT being an EU member state will be at a distinct disadvantage trading with it's largest customer.

The vote I think will be NO, but this idiotic divisive waste of time, resources and money, will leave the nation scarred.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Musket
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 04:59 AM

Do passengers include the nine out of ten households in Scotland who receive more in benefits than they pay in tax?

Just wondering...

If being a landlord is an issue, you might want to have a quiet word with Dundee Council.

That nine out of ten is a bit of a generalisation and caused a bit of an uproar when the Scottish conservative leader claimed it. The reality isn't sparkling all the same...

Akenaton's contributors

If it isn't fair to moan about people who rely on the state, (and it most certainly isn't) neither is it nice to moan about anybody else.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 04:12 AM

In the "new" Scotland, to make a difference we all need to pull our weight....no room for passengers, no matter how many "properties" they have.

How many times do I have to say it. My mate has ONE property. The one he lives in. He is turned 65 and after working all his life, paying taxes and saving for his retirement he now enjoys his life in the place he spent a lot of time and money in. Is he a passenger? Does he need to pull his weight?

Luckily, no-one has to justify themselves to you and, from experience, I know most of the Scots in the area consider him to be a friend and stalwart of the community. It is also fortunate that no-one on here is stereotyping Scotsmen based on your views...

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Musket
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 03:56 AM

Even.... Even who? The people who live in Scotland every bit as much as you do and have the same rights as you?

Pathetic.

President Alexander I of Salmon farm. Can't wait...

Have you noticed how he is trying to attract the pink vote? Something for you to ponder on.

Don't forget, if it does lead to a yes majority, The UK will respect it as per the agreement. To come running back later means the rest of us will decide whether or not to have you. To date, the yes campaign seems to be poking fun at politicians on the no camp and claiming Westminster and Brussels will do the exact opposite of what they have said they will do.

Currency union with The UK requires the will of The UK. Currency union with The EU means being a member of The EU. (This is The EU by the way whose alcohol ideas in their public health proposals are not exactly music to the ears of those employed in making and exporting whisky.)

In reality, there are good reasons to vote either way. Throwing scorn on the no voters shows the narrow nationalistic obscenity that rises to the surface from time to time. Not exactly shocked by who the cheer leader is.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 03:07 AM

In the "new" Scotland, to make a difference we all need to pull our weight....no room for passengers, no matter how many "properties" they have.

The problem of housing for our young people is on of the first things we need to sort out. Private rents are disgustingly high, and large houses empty for most of the year is an absolute disgrace.
Allan... My son works for "Yes Scotland" and tells me the vote WILL be very close. He also tells me that most of the many English retired in Argyll will definitely vote "NO"....he has knocked on hundreds of doors and works in community care.
Even the Asians and Chinese who own the local fast food shops will be voting "YES"... :0)

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 02:40 AM

Of course this doesn't apply to ALL English...some come here to work and earn their keep.
The stereotype is the well off retired

So, anyone who has not come there to work, even if they moved there because they love it and have put plenty into the local economy, would be kicked out by you then ake? Including my mate who is retired and comfortably off because he worked hard all his life and put as much into the Scottish coffers as anyone working in Scotland? You really take the biscuit.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 20 Jun 14 - 01:27 AM

If you are voting on the basis of free prescriptions and tuition fees, you'll be voting to remain being subsidised from Westminster then.

I guarantee these would be the first victims of independence austerity if an independent Scotland wishes to keep its credit rating with IMF. Regardless of whose currency controls it is bound to with no say in the matter.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 07:04 PM

To qualify for a vote someone would need to be resident in Scotland by 2nd Sep at the latest and of course get themselves registered.

There's no saying what it'll be like after the vote. If it is a Yes then I think there will be massive parties and celebrations. If it is No then I think it will be a stranger atmosphere. The No campaigners will be more relieved than anything else and the Yes people will be totally dejected. Can't imagine many street parties etc.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 06:55 PM

we just booked into an apartment in glasgow for the independence day vote and party. can we get registered to vote (vote Aye!) as we will be living there on the day? though we stay in cumbria we have many connections and 3 scots children living there. of course the scots should go for it and it would be an example to those of us in the north and elsewhere that austerity/global capitalism/ tories do not have to rule forever and hopefully encourage us to demand somethig better for ourselves.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 06:30 PM

Ake everyone in Scotland has a vote and everyone's opinion is relevant. An English incomer has as much right to vote No as a home grown Scot has. We could equally take a swipe at women saying they are happy to use free prescriptions yet vote No. You simply can't break things down like that. All people want the best for the country they just disagree on how best to achieve that! Besides seemingly about a third of of English incomers support independence anyway - so it isn't really correct to depict them all as unionists. For Scottish votes to make the difference in a UK general election the election itself needs to be really close - likewise for the English vote to make a difference in the referendum the vote itself would need to be very close anyway!!

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 06:19 PM

"Never mind, if we win, "We'll sned therr heids lik taps o' thristle" :0)"

Two of the major benefits of Scottish independence are

1). That we would never again have to admit that Ake was one of "ours"

and

2). That we would feel some sympathy for that eejit Salmond, knowing that he would not benefit from 1).

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 06:18 PM

For a long time, I have held that Canada should link politically with Caribbean nations. Vacations in "the warm" might be cheaper.

Cuba as the 11 province would be perfect. Wouldn't have to change the health care system and French would become the third language.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 06:04 PM

Of course this doesn't apply to ALL English...some come here to work and earn their keep.
The stereotype is the well off retired, wonder why they don't stay in the South.....too many immigrants?    :0)

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 06:00 PM

I work in a small town near Loch Fyne, where over 35% of the houses are holiday homes.

The young locals can't compete with the English money, they just cant get a mortgage for the amounts required.
Most leave for the cities or stay with their parents while good houses lie empty for all but a couple of months in the year.

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 05:50 PM

Er....are you missing something?.....I actually live here :0)
I see what is going on, shower of hypocrites.
No houses for local young folks...priced out of the market by people from the South of England.


What's the attraction then? Our history? Our culture? Our Nation?......Or is it our free health care? free prescriptions? "cheap" housing(for you)? No tuition fees?

Pity about the peasants?....isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 05:25 PM

I'm not really surprised, Musket. Just eternally optimistic. I am often disappointed but it tends to make life a lot more joyous :-)

Cheers

dtG

Subject: RE: BS: lets develop Scotland
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 05:19 PM

Typical lowlife scum. I don't know why you sound so surprised about him Dave. I know you tend to give most people the benefit of the doubt whilst I dismiss them too easily but this specimen doesn't exactly hide his ugly side.

He isn't representative of anything really except the reason why the tabloids are still in business. Base attitudes and lack of humility. Par for the course for bigots.