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BS: compassion or honesty

Bill in Alabama 01 Apr 00 - 06:44 PM
TTCM (retired) 01 Apr 00 - 06:54 PM
katlaughing 01 Apr 00 - 06:57 PM
The Beanster 01 Apr 00 - 07:02 PM
TTCM (retired) 01 Apr 00 - 07:11 PM
TTCM (retired) 01 Apr 00 - 07:20 PM
GUEST,flattop 01 Apr 00 - 07:27 PM
TTCM (retired) 01 Apr 00 - 07:31 PM
Rick Fielding 01 Apr 00 - 07:42 PM
GUEST,flattop 01 Apr 00 - 07:44 PM
TTCM (retired) 01 Apr 00 - 08:00 PM
GUEST,flattop 01 Apr 00 - 08:19 PM
katlaughing 01 Apr 00 - 08:22 PM
GUEST,flattop 01 Apr 00 - 08:23 PM
TTCM (retired) 01 Apr 00 - 08:33 PM
GUEST, Another conscience.... 01 Apr 00 - 08:34 PM
TTCM (retired) 01 Apr 00 - 08:45 PM
GUEST,flattop 01 Apr 00 - 08:46 PM
TTCM (retired) 01 Apr 00 - 08:52 PM
GUEST, Another conscience.... 01 Apr 00 - 09:02 PM
TTCM (retired) 01 Apr 00 - 09:07 PM
Jon Freeman 01 Apr 00 - 10:16 PM
GUEST,flattop 01 Apr 00 - 11:24 PM
wysiwyg 01 Apr 00 - 11:28 PM
harpgirl 02 Apr 00 - 12:00 AM
TTCM (retired) 02 Apr 00 - 12:04 AM
GUEST, Another conscience.... 02 Apr 00 - 12:12 AM
Caitrin 02 Apr 00 - 12:29 AM
GUEST, Another conscience.... 02 Apr 00 - 12:38 AM
ceitagh 02 Apr 00 - 01:20 AM
Iodine 02 Apr 00 - 01:34 AM
GUEST, The Thread Watcher 02 Apr 00 - 01:41 AM
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GUEST,flattop 02 Apr 00 - 10:23 AM
catspaw49 02 Apr 00 - 11:01 AM
Bert 02 Apr 00 - 08:35 PM
JedMarum 03 Apr 00 - 01:21 AM
Lonesome EJ 03 Apr 00 - 01:42 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: Bill in Alabama
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 06:44 PM

Joe--
A concise, rational, incisive statement. I agree totally, even though it seems that to do so places me on some kind of team in folks' eyes. It looks like the simple expression of one's sincere opinion is tantamount to the choosing of sides in this fracas. I am truly sorry that the Mudcat has come to this, but I reckon I'll keep hangin' around, 'cause, every once in a while, music does get mentioned.

Bill Foster


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 06:54 PM

This just in. Beanster and Praise spotted by our live cam.

Click here for continuous live camera feed.



TTCM
--proof the vaccine works!--


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 06:57 PM

Interesting that a few have chosen to personally attack Praise and her postings which are at least done honestly and without rancour, while letting stand without comment the vile, putrid personal attack on her just before Joe's posting.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: The Beanster
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 07:02 PM

Thank you kat, for saying in one concise sentence, what it took me an entire paragraph to say! lol


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 07:11 PM

Once the morphing effects hit Lafkat and Beanster yet again, they'd damn well better find a good hiding spot or the following fate awaits them.


TTCM
--making as much vaccine as it takes--


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 07:20 PM

True definition of ''vile'' and ''putrid'':A Lafkat with no discernable sense of humor, and whom, when out of the limelight, as temporarily as she can muster, lashes out in self righteous indignation.

(Where is Garg when we really need him. He was so better equipped to deal with the likes of your specie.)

Now be quiet and bend over. You're getting a quadruple dose with the longest needle we can find, for that last outburst. Should keep you in possim form for at least a few days.



TTCM
--The Vaccine? Don't worry. We'll make more!--


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 07:27 PM

'Comtemplating' was a typo, Jon.

If we're not careful, Jon, this thread might degenerate into a musical discussion. I was referring to Christians singing 'Come let us use the grace Divine' to a Robbie Burns tune or singing 'God of all power and truth and grace' to Beethoven. It's enough to make you want to bite the piano.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 07:31 PM

Well stated flattop.
In fact if none of us are careful, this entire forum could degenerate into A Magazine Dedicated To Blues and Folk Music.


Pretty scary huh?


TTCM
--who deeply respects marsupials--


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 07:42 PM

Just got home after taking our Philosopher-Laureate Peter T. on his first ever pilgrimage to the Twelfth Fret Music store (no, I didn't coerce him into buying anything) and thought I'd see if this had gotten sillier.

I rest my case about "joining either side". We humans sure can be hilarious at times.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 07:44 PM

Instead of pissing about with these ridiculous fonts TTCM, you could be preparing to defend Robbie Burns and all the women he got pregnant. And you could learn a bit from Praise, like how to talk to people and how to listen. It's guys like you who give us heathens a bad name.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:00 PM

Flattop:

Two men died and went to heaven at the same time.

One was a Robbie Burns scholar, the other was a Canadian hoser.

They were met at the gates of heaven by St. Peter. St. Peter informed them that they were rather full that evening and really only had room for one of them.

To determine which one would gain access, St. Peter devised a little game, where each of the respondents had to improvise a poem encompassing the word Timbuktu..(figuring the Robbie Burns scholar was a shoe-in.)

The Robbie Burns scholar stepped forward and offered:

We traveled to a distant land
We journied there by Caravan
The sky was opalescent blue
We named this place, Timbuktu.



The Canadian countered:

Now me and Tim
A'fishin' we went
When we seen three girls
In a tent

Now they was three
And we was two
I bucked one
And Tim bucked two.


Does that about do it for yah, or should we prepare yet another syringe?


TTC
--if Jonas Salk were alive today,
he'd be helping us refine our vaccine--


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:19 PM

I bow to your scholarship TTCM, and the font was much improved.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:22 PM

This one is just for you, TTCM.**BG**


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:23 PM

Did we lose the Christians? They had a lull like this in the wars over consubstantiation vs transsubstantiation after the two Christian armies had killed about 100,000 of their fellow Christians and divided the Holy Roman Empire.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:33 PM

We were amused, but we don't wear glasses, and were actually holding the mirror facing you...and it does very closely resemble your top photo on the resource page.


Suggestion : More time spent researching links like the one above, means less time here. Got to like that!


You know, if it was YOU instead of JFK, witnesses would have been heard saying: ''Christ. There must have been 100s of shots, Get yer own grassy knowl! We were here first!



TTCM
--working on a longer lasting vaccine for Lafkat--


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST, Another conscience....
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:34 PM

I see Lafkat is morphing as we speak!

Shall we give our honored guest one more jab, for luck?


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:45 PM

Absolutely, and stuff a few Jimmy Dean's Pure Pork sausages, in the other orifices while yer at it.


TTCM
--who does not want the Lafkat to go hungry--


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:46 PM

Attention deficits TTCM? I give you credit for reusing a Newfie joke and you immediately slip back into a stupid font. Are you Canadian too?

Kat is too kind. She should skip the BeeGees.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 08:52 PM

(..whistles...)AC, please prepare a syringe for Flattop....but add 40% more to it, as he is a Canuck.


TTCM


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST, Another conscience....
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 09:02 PM

Just heard that fine Robin Williams song this evening.

Stirring stuff! Now... just a little bit...., there!


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 09:07 PM

Latest webcam live photo of morphed Lafkat.

Seems AC got a bit carried away on the dosage. Awwwww.


Bust a gut.


TTCM
--We'll spring for the URN--


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 10:16 PM

Flattop, this Christian is still here :-)

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 11:24 PM

And you're using an honest and compassionate font Jon.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Apr 00 - 11:28 PM

Hi everybody,

This Christian left the forum this afternoon for sheduled music practice, where the music for tonight's all-acoustic weekly worship service was planned and practiced. I have a new amp and believe me it was more relaxing that rebuking pretenders to the name of conscience! I did mange to pray frequently during all of that practice time, for the Counterfiet Consciences. (I think they need a lot more prayer than I can pray, so I hope some of you will join in.)

Then this Christian went to PLAY for the service and stayed to hang out with visiting musicians for their set, since they had come to do a concert in another part of our building for a group using the place for their event. We had a great time... they were wonderful musicians, and turned out also to be....CHRISTIANS!

Then I had a lovely family dinner and came home to a number of nice, encouraging personal messages.

I think that since the Counterfiet Conscience Clan (CCC) has SO enjoyed mischaracterizing me-- as they should, not knowing me and having had little exposure to real people living a real faith--I'll just start writing all-Christian songs from now on and posting them right here at the Mudcat. I think I'll start a hymn of the day thread and we can all post away, more and more opportunities to talk about Jesus.

And a Hymn Challenge thread....

And a Prayer of the Day thread...

And a Link to Christian Acoustic Music of the Day thread...

Or just keep doing what I do, which (and pardon ME), includes loving you, including the unrepentant.

So thank you, Counterfeit Conscience Clan, for being such excellent April Fools today. You gave me more legitimate opportunities to talk about Jesus than I have had since joining the Mudcat.

I hope you'll keep it up-- I could talk about HIM all day long!!!!

~Susan~
~Praise~
who Prays


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: harpgirl
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 12:00 AM

...jesus christ! this is the most offensive crap I have ever seen on the forum...you can have it Susan, I'm outta here...


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: TTCM (retired)
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 12:04 AM

Harpgirl, it was still technically April Fools day when she wrote it. Given what Mr. Offer said, and many others who share your feelings, we think it is hype and was directed at us and to trigger a strong reaction.

Keep your powder dry for the moment Harpgirl. You're valued, and your common sense and sanity are needed and respected around here.

TTCM
--in a more rational moment--


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST, Another conscience....
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 12:12 AM

Praise. Your displays of christianity are distinctly un-christian.

I would ask you, on this your Sabbath, to quietly contemplate the parable of the Pharasee at the altar, and quit trying to shove your religion down other people's throats.

Your kind have been the cause of 90% of the wars in the 'christian' era. Were Christ to be alive today, you would crucify him as you did before.

Now could you and your zealot religious rantings please FUCK OFF and spare us your biased beliefs.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: Caitrin
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 12:29 AM

Uhm...just for the record...I don't believe Susan's ever told anyone that he or she was going to hell. She might have stepped on a few toes, but I don't think she's really attempted to force her religion down anyone's throat. At any rate, I think everyone's gotten a rather overly defensive now. It might be best to cool off and let the situation defuse a little bit.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST, Another conscience....
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 12:38 AM

I have sent the messenger with the cleft stick this very hour.
Apologies to all the good people in this noble forum for my reflex and hawkish remarks. I meant to offend none but those who would convert us.

Pax vobiscum


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: ceitagh
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 01:20 AM

A quick question....you can PM me with a reply if you have one....is there any way threads that degenerate like this can be posthumously marked, as it is? 'cause I've been gone a coupla days and was looking forward to a typical thotful 'cat discussion and got acres of flamebait instead. I don't want to have to read this, and I don't want to squelch it either...but could a thread that has turned into this be marked 'TTCM' or 'PS' (Possum Shit) or somethin' so I don't have to spend anymore time wadin' thru this crap? I've read enough, I've said my say (on the Pustule thread, since it was shortest) and I don't want to see this again. Is there some way I could set my filter to disregard threads I don't want to see anymore?

Ceit
(nobodies conscience but my own, thanx muchly!)


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: Iodine
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 01:34 AM

i think this thread is offically dead. no real answer


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST, The Thread Watcher
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 01:41 AM

It is already marked ceitagh, and we've already been through this before.

Try devising a keyword structure with the filter on "things that upset me". However in the abscence of utopia, try not inhaling, if you get my drift. Or go and strike up an interesting discussion somewhere. You know, something of interest!!

Maybe a sewing bee or something. That could be a novel experience through the PMs, don't you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: The Beanster
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 01:57 AM

Ceit,

That's an interesting suggestion, there. I wish it could be done. There are gizmos that allow you to put chatroom trashers on "ignore" so maybe?? 65 or so posts from one person in the space of roughly two days... If a telephone were used instead, it would be a crime--harassment. Yet here, sadly, it continues. I guess for now, we'll have to use our own methods to ignore.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST, Another conscience....
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 03:07 AM

Oh Edgar?


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST,flattop
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 10:23 AM

Praise,

You should get lots of support for musical threads on Hymns and Christian Acoustic Music, both musical topics with worldwide interest. I believe that Christian music is one of the higher selling categories these days. Clearly labeled threads should trouble no one who doesn't want to read them.

And your new amp. What kind of new amp did you get? The Twelfth Fret, the music store in Toronto that Rick and Peter just visited, carries Line 6 products. Line 6 amps and the Line 6 Pod emulate many different amp sounds. If you got a Pod and TTCM was talking out of turn in your church, you could switch to a Marshall stack sound and rattle his ears with a drugged out Jimmy Hendricks riff. Or you could blast him back a couple of pews and sit him on his rectum with the sounds of a Peavey dual rectifier. Wouldn't that be grand?


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 11:01 AM

Well, I knew this was going to go on, but after returning from a 3-D hiatus, I'm amazed......

DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS SHIT FOLKS!!! Be comfortable enough in who you are and have enough security in your own self that you don't take this stuff to heart ferchrissakes.

Let "IT" alone and all the "ITS" can go play with themselves, they probably do anyway.

DO NOT ACKNOWLWDGE "ITS" EXISTENCE AT ALL, PEOPLE!!!!>br> MAKE NO REFERENCES TO "IT" AND DON'T RESPOND EITHER!!!!
TAKE AWAY "ITS" FOOD SUPPLY!!!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: Bert
Date: 02 Apr 00 - 08:35 PM

Aw Spaw, I was having such fun with 'he of the little font'. I've been thinking of doing a profile of him so that everyone can find out who he is.

The sorry sod is fairly easy to pin down by reading his postings.

He's a blues singer. (That eliminates some 70-80% of us)
He's heard Jeri play. So he's probably near the east coast. (there goes another 60% of the remainder)
He doesn't wan't to be barred from Annap's, so he's probably been there (We're down to a handful now)
He thinks he's quite a good performer (Gawd, that eliminates me for sure)
He doesn't like songwriters (So he probably doesn't write anything of his own)
He takes anonymous digs at his 'friends'. (So he probably takes sly digs under his real name as well, you know the sort of stuff, just borderline and sneaky, nothing that you can really pin down)
He looks down on people he considers to be inferior performers. (just about everyone, so he would sooner 'entertain' at a gathering, rather than starting a song circle.
He's arrogant. (so his performances come across as rather aloof and lacking in warmth and communication)

Got him yet everyone.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: JedMarum
Date: 03 Apr 00 - 01:21 AM

Well, I just spent much too much time reading through this thread! I saw it start just before I went out of town for a few days, was tempted to comment on it then (before all the nasty sh*t started) but it's not the kind of thread I usually respond to, and I didn't have much to contribute.

... when I got back in town, I saw from comments among other threads that a furious row had occurred somewhere at Mudcat but I did know where, (I didn't look here right away). I poked around for a couple of days, looking at threads of interest, answering a few, reading a few, then I looked in on this one again. I was floored! Y'all must be joking, right? All this nastiness is because someone doesn't like it when someone else asks a non-music question? Is this for real? WHO CARES? IF YA DON"T LIKE THE THREAD: DON"T ANSWER IT!!!

I have spent lots of time here, and have run into very little that angers me ... you can spend hours each day learning, and TEACHING issues related to music - you'll never have to worry about stuff that doesn't interest you.

To make such a stink over what someone else is talking about is rediculous. It is to be, as Monty Python might put it; a wiper of other people's noses!


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 03 Apr 00 - 01:42 AM

Jed, you are absolutely on the money. But I don't think the members (if there really are more than one)of the Mudkat Konscience Klan are going to listen to any reasonably stated arguments. The Klan is obviously getting a large kick out of causing the disruption, and under the avowed purpose of saving the site for music, are using their tactics to attack anyone they don't like, plain and simple.

I appreciate the views of those like Joe, Harpgirl, and Art Thieme who have made heartfelt pleas or reasoned arguments that the Forum is drifting too far into non-music topics. But the guys in sheets and hoods get no respect from me.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST, Another conscience....
Date: 03 Apr 00 - 03:24 AM

Oh, Lej., just admit it. The BS and and this peculiar ICQ type behavior is sucking the life out of this place.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: JedMarum
Date: 03 Apr 00 - 07:43 AM

I appreciate Joe, Harpgirl and Art's comments too ... I don't have any passion over the issue myself, but I recognize theirs ... as for BS I rarely notice, and ICQ? I don't participate; I still find the place quite useful.


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: Iodine
Date: 03 Apr 00 - 05:36 PM

Bravo Jed


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Subject: RE: BS: compassion or honesty
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 00 - 10:09 PM

AC, you're full of it!. 16 BS threads - 88 music threads is sucking the life out of it. You must not have much of a bloody life. Get a grip you silly sod and back off of the whining.

Bert.


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