Scotland (Scottish nationalism)

Subject: SCOTLAND
From: little john cameron
Date: 31 Dec 00 - 06:17 PM

Here is a story aboot Scotland that says it better than me.It is in English so ye should be able tae understaun it.

http://www.scotsindependent.org/features/separate.htm
ljc

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: wildlone
Date: 31 Dec 00 - 07:23 PM

I thank ye john I found a lot of info on the clan my family married into.
dave

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: little john cameron
Date: 31 Dec 00 - 07:37 PM

Whit clan is that Dave? ljc

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: kendall
Date: 01 Jan 01 - 12:16 PM

SINSULL, here. Thank you John. I found more than I expected on the Sinclair Clan and will pass it on to the family. Happy New Year!
SIN(Sinclair)SULL(Sullivan)

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: little john cameron
Date: 02 Jan 01 - 04:49 PM

Prince Henry Sinclair was a very interesting man.I have a fair bit of information about him.If i can find it i will post it here. LJC

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: little john cameron
Date: 02 Jan 01 - 04:56 PM

here it is.As a matter of fact it kind of connects with what i said in the rebel songs post.Ah also hae stuff on Roslin castle. ljc

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: little john cameron
Date: 02 Jan 01 - 05:42 PM

OOPS! Sorry aboot that.too mony Guinness.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8930/henry.html

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: pict
Date: 02 Jan 01 - 08:52 PM

ALBA GU BRATH!Well put together wee article that ljc.The civil restrictions being put in place over in Scotland now are frightening with curfews for kids under 16 and other such like,devolution could turn out to be the death knell for independence if we're not careful.The Scots labour politicians have to be forced to make their minds up a dog can't have two masters and Labour's agenda is highly suspect.Scots can never have the political system they want except in a fully independent Scotland but a real problem is that huge numbers of our population(particularly younger people) are disenfranchised,depoliticised and apathetic due to a perceived futility to affect change no doubt because of the Thatcher(spit,grot,grog)years.

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: little john cameron
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 11:38 AM

Aye ye're right there Pict.The area ah'm fae,LANARKSHIRE,is bein terrorised wi muggins,stabbins,brek'ins and vandalism.The curfew seems tae help but it disnae get tae the root o the problem.It's sad tae hear aboot aw the goins on there.Ah guess ah'll jist continue tae look at it through mah rose-colored glesses. ljc

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 12:17 PM

LJ, what is a good Scotsman like you doing drinking Guiness? I thought you were a single malt man. And thank you again for the Sinclair clickies. There is a traffic jam on the internet highway but I will get it all later.

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Jan 01 - 12:43 PM

Thanks for the site link, too, from me, ljc. I was able to find quite a lot on several of my family's ancestral names and clans!

kat

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: GUEST,The Celtic Bard
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 06:18 PM

I've known for a while (as I'm sure everyone else has) about the Irish seperatist movement. However I never knew that there was a Scottish seperatist movement. I always admired the Irish for fighting for what they believe in although I do not support their violent methods and it always bugged me that the Scottish didn't take some sort of a stand. It's nice to know that they are. We just don't hear anything about it here in the States. I'm mostly Scottish and the thought of my homeland under English rule usually depresses me (I got a song out of it so I guess it's not completely worthless). The thought of a free Scotland is overwelling. The Irish may complain about how their four counties are still under English rule but our whole country is still occupied territory! Maybe, someday the seperatist dream may come true and I pray that it will be bloodless and complete.

Rebecca <><

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: Penny S.
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 06:24 PM

Hey, haven't you heard, the English are ruled by Scots! Our PM and Chancellor are both from north of the border. And now, MPs from Scotland can vote in Westminster, but English MPs don't get to vote in the Scottish Assembly. It's not independence, but its a darn sight better than it was.

Penny

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: John Routledge
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 06:41 PM

Most free thinking English would be happy for Scotland to control its own destiny.

Most of the freethinking Scots that I have met over the years are not rushing to promote home rule.

I come from Northumbria and want to be ruled by neither of you. (BG) Cheers GBroon

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 06:47 PM

I shouldn't think the days of the average scot are spent any different from the days of the average englishman/frenchman or italian so frankly Celtic Bard I shouldn't get too depressed about it.

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: Cobble
Date: 23 Jan 01 - 07:03 PM

Celtic Bard, how mostly Scottish are you, when did you leave Scotland, think because a lot of us in England have Scottish blood in our veins.

Cobble.

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:52 AM

Looks like someone has watched Braveheart a few too many times.

Oh flower of Scotland...... blah blah blah

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: English Jon
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 07:04 AM

Most of the people I know in England are pretty browned off with the government too. We don't really want to be ruled by "the English" as you put it either. Personally I'm not at war with anyone, Irish, Scots, Welsh, whatever. However I'd have a few choice remarks for Tony Blair, William Hague et al. As for Margaret bloody Thatcher...

The main problem isn't to do with the nationality of the civil servants who are "in charge", but more that modern politics is too obsessed by capital gain, with too little being put back into society at large. Effectively, we all work for Britain PLC, and there is a conflict between the interests of the workers and those of the directors.

Anyway, enough of this Bolshevik dialectic.

hooray for the common man.

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: GUEST,Penny S. (testing a new connection)
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:01 PM

Home rule for me!!!

Penny

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: walkinman
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 07:35 AM

I spent a couple weeks in Scotland this last September and the talk of "Home Rule" was very much alive.

The conversations really revolve around this issue of "Freedom vs. Security"(see thread of same name).

The answer for Scotland, as for all of us, is to have the courage to choose freedom.

walkinman(Clan Donald)

Subject: RE: SCOTLAND
From: Mikey joe
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 07:50 AM

SCotland HAS home Rule. Devolution and Home rule are the same thing they have an exectutive but are still under WEstminster