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German Mudcatters get-together Part 2
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Subject: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 27 Feb 01 - 03:02 PM At the request of Eric, a second edition of German Mudcatters get-together |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 27 Feb 01 - 04:23 PM It will have.....enough lifeboats? Won't it? Jim's just reminded me that the Titanic was on it's maiden voyage when it tried to occupy the same space as an iceberg. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Cobble Date: 27 Feb 01 - 07:41 PM I'm wondering if I should increase Cobble's insurance. Can an iceberg be sued for negligence!!!! Mrs C |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 28 Feb 01 - 04:30 AM The main thing for your dangerous crossing from our point of view is: Eat all provisions like meat and sausage before leaving the ship (grin). Wolfgang
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: The Crazy Bird Date: 28 Feb 01 - 05:53 AM Hey y'all, what's up? I just learned about this site last friday and have been having a lot of fun I'm based in Denmark 40 kloms south of Ye Wonderful Copenhagen. rgrds CrzyBrd |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: GUEST Date: 28 Feb 01 - 10:35 AM Don't forget to keep watch for Polar bears on the Iceberg if we see one!!! Just in case anyone asks!! YOU CAN'T SUE AN ICEBERG BUT YOU CAN FREEZE IT'S ASSETTS! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 28 Feb 01 - 06:16 PM Guest - no you can't, not if you've drowned. Still, I wouldn't worry about icebergs! I've been told the biggest hazard in the English Channel (and north of it) are other ships ... Personally, the worst thing I've encountered in 30 years of crossing to and fro were an engine failure and a broken leg (not mine, I'm glad to say, and it was extremely interesting to turn back to Newcastle two hours from the land and watch the poor stricken lady and her friends being transferred to a port authority speedboat just outside the harbour ...). So watch your steps, boys 'n' girls! We want you here hale (not to mention hearty)! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Rollo Date: 28 Feb 01 - 08:59 PM Whoah, Wolfgang, I hope your garden is big enough for all the tents that will be neccesary to shelter this lot... Isn't it great? Even Denmark thinks about sending a delegation to our little privat Grand Prix de La Chanson! Sure you will come to muenster first may weekend, won't you, crazybird? |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 01 Mar 01 - 01:34 PM I like crossing the sea, but the Iceberg is another thing-see a thread which came up by coincidence. It's a Les barker song. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Mar 01 - 05:33 AM OK, ready for a summary so far? Please update or correct me. Pondering to come (more or less sure): Wolfgang Susanne Mudguard Bill\Sables and crew (5 I've counted including Llanfair) McMoo Ranks Rollo Letty Sabine Perhaps: Menzze Ernest Ina Schmiddi John C (did I forget somebody?) There might be reasons to say 'sorry I can't come' or 'may I come as well' (sure yes) at a later time, but I think it is reasonable to expect up to a dozen of you. Date: May, 4-6 I did understand that the British 'delegation' comes on Saturday and leaves on Sunday or Monday. Therefore the main action should be Saturday night (5th of May) and (perhaps) Sunday night. If some of the nearer-than-Britain Mudcatters like to come Friday as well, you are invited. Sleeping: I have a bed, Susanne has a caravan, Mudguard sleeps some other place. My wife has given me free hand to invite you to sleep in our flat. Nine people with sleeping bag can sleep in our flat, not very comfortable, but it is possible. So that's the offer. In addition to that, there's a big garden behind the house which could easily take two or three tents. And then there's Muenster youth hostel a twenty minutes walk from my home, ten minutes from downtown. Just in case, there are four hotels near my place (about 75 Euro a double room a night) but I won't mention them again, if I'm not prompted. Münster (Muenster): Don't mix it up with Munster, another town in Germany. This often leads to funny situations with foreign guests. Muenster is about 80 km north of Dortmund, that should make the decision easy. Here is the homepage of Muenster. There's a lot of history (buildings etc.) in that (very catholic) town, so a guided walk through will be offered by me Where am I: Wolfgang Hell Wiener Str. 24 48145 Muenster Tel.: 0251/374477 Mail: hell@psy.uni-muenster.de (never on weekends) Where do we congregate: I'd say we start at my place, later in the garden (weather permitting) or in a pub. Should I make a reservation for a room in a pub which does not mind musicians making the expected noise? What do we do? Some of us, Susanne, Mudguard, Wolfgang are 'passive' musician, most of us are active. Well, I for instance like singing (and even Bodhran playing) but with more fun than ability. But everyone of us likes to listen to life folk music so that's what we should do. (Just in case we get tired I have enough records to play a month without repetition). Recording: Susanne has suggested we record the music for Mudcat Radio. Sorry, but I have no equipment for that and if I do have bits of it I don't know (I've never tried recording music at all). I think everything that is necessary for that has to be brought by someone else. Directions to find my place: Follow with a later post Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Letty Date: 23 Mar 01 - 06:31 AM Thanks for arranging all this, Wolfgang. I'll be there! And probably bring a sleeping bag, if that's ok. Hattingen/Bochum is about an hour away, but I guess we'll stay up late, so maybe driving home isn't a good idea... Nevertheless, if need be, people can stay in my home (up to 4, it's tiny!). Looking forward to it - I'll be practising some fiddle tunes. But I can sing a little too, and maybe there's a piano around. Grüsse, Letty |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 23 Mar 01 - 07:31 AM Thanks Wolfgang, for summarizing so far. Yes, I will (probably) be staying with one of my two Münster-Cousins. I have warned them that this might happen, and now I think I will confirm my "booking". I will arrive by train, and I will have my bicycle with me, so distance within Münster should be no problem for me. *) After the meeting (either Sunday or Monday - I don't mind) I will start a cycling trip into the Netherlands and Belgium (if Foot-And-Mouth still allows traveling there). |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Lady McMoo Date: 23 Mar 01 - 09:22 AM I'll definitely be coming and will definitely bring Lady McMoo (a fine singer) and probably also my daughter also. Maybe we will stay in the Muenster youth hostel or, if you can recommend any Wolfgang, a bed and breakfast. I could bring a small four-track if needed. I will definitely bring a digital camera for a photo record for Mudcat. Looking forward to the event. All the best mcmoo |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 23 Mar 01 - 05:19 PM This sounds excellent. Sleeping bag for me please inside if I can. How long from Rotterdam? Any good route recomended. has boked us for return on Sunday, so we have saturday afternoon, evening, night and some of Sunday. I must do some shopping to get my kids and the wife something, so are we near to some shops? And of course, get some tobacco for my pipe-clan is what I smoke. (Not inside if you don't want) Playing anywhere will do us I think, so a pub would be fine-but check with Bill. I am really looking forwards to this. Bye for now Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 23 Mar 01 - 05:27 PM Also the guided walk sounds really good- I like to explore, when would that be? On sunday morning? Or Saturday afternoon? It is a pity out time is so short. By the way is that a picture of Bill I see on the web site for the town? (Search to find it!!!) Bye Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 23 Mar 01 - 08:16 PM This sounds good. I'll be there, probably sleeping in the car. And I do sing a bit. I didn't know when I suggested Muenster, but Wolfgang is obviously among the most organised people in the world. Thanks, Wolfgang! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together P.2 - Refresh From: MudGuard Date: 26 Mar 01 - 03:22 AM Just a refresh! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: GUEST Date: 27 Mar 01 - 03:40 AM just another refresh |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:14 AM some individual comments: Letty: bring the sleeping bag or would you like to drive back to Bochum at two in the morning?? Mudguard: I'll be looking for the nearer of the two streets you have mentioned. I don't know them. Eric: I'll recommend a route (routes) later. As for the guided walk, Saturday afternoon would be my personal choice, but Sunday morning also sounds fine (there might be an additional reason on sunday morning for a walk) mcmmo: I remember you said you have a bit of a knowledge of Germman? Go to the webpage of Muenster (see above), click 'Touristik' then click 'Übernachten' and you'll have a list of hotels. Close to my place are 'Frönd', 'Hotel Europa', Windsor'. Not listed but nearest is 'Scho' (200 yards). The cheapest near here is 'Haus vom guten Hirten'(a former monastery). The service is now a bit better than at monastery times, but not much. Don't mind posting again if you want some more help. By the way, there is a town map of Muenster on the website (not particularly easy to find), that'll make my task of describing the way much easier. More later. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:33 AM We'll have more time than I thought for I see that the guided tour isn't necessary. There is a virtual guided tour in the web and I think it is great. Explore the links (sorry, German only) and the panorama views (don't forget to click on the buildings, in some cases you'll get inside views): Virtual sightseeing of Muenster Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:43 AM Wolfgang - no longer necessary. I found Münster Townmap and have looked up the three streets (yours and the two of my cousins - one has just moved so the street given is no longer valid). And I will have my bike with me, so a few km are no problem. Especially as Münster is said to be a good cycling city. MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:47 AM for all, here's an interactive town map of Muenster for Andreas: I had a look at the map (it has a street search function): Overbergstr. is so close that I am ashamed I didn't know. Ten minutes walk from me. Go to the search function of the twon map, enter Overbergstr. and as soon as you have the map click on the arrow pointing exactly to the East. You'll then see a map that has both Overbergstr. and Wiener Str. in it and you can zoom in or out to see where that is in general. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:48 AM I see, grin. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 27 Mar 01 - 08:33 AM Overbergstraße is exactly the one which is of no use anymore... My cousin now lives in Schillerstraße. I have asked Martin (Schillerstraße - central Münster) and Birgit (Telemannstraße in the north of Münster) for a place to sleep in but did not yet get an answer... Andreas/MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 27 Mar 01 - 08:40 AM Schillerstr. is somewhat nearer if you have the choice. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 27 Mar 01 - 09:24 AM But the cousin in Schillerstraße is smoker, the one in Telemannstr is non-smoker - which makes the decision hard if both are available... |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 27 Mar 01 - 12:22 PM Is there a chance that one of you excellent people could give me an indication of the prices for things like coffee, coke(for Bill) Pipe tobacco, chips (frites) etc, Just to have some idea. In DM will be fine-I can work it out. Cheers>p>Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 28 Mar 01 - 06:35 AM Ok, I have confirmation from one of my cousins - I can sleep in her flat (Telemannstr), the other cousin did not yet answer. I will arrive in Münster on Friday night (22:28) and will head straight to whichever cousin I will stay. Saturday morning I will do some sightseeing on my own, so no need to entertain me before the afternoon. What time are we allowed to arrive, Wolfgang? If you need help for anything on Saturday, tell me. As I will be in town, it's no problem! Andreas/MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Letty Date: 28 Mar 01 - 08:54 AM For maps of German cities, see:
Travelling from Hoek van Holland (Rotterdam) to Muenster:
Total distance: 315 km Hope that helps, Letty
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 28 Mar 01 - 10:22 AM If someone of you is in Muenster at Friday that is no problem. Come when you feel like. You could even stay overnight. Andreas, thanks for the offer to help. I think I won't need help playing it easy like going to a restaurant together (I still think of the Scottish cuisine in 'Scott's View').
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 28 Mar 01 - 12:07 PM Both- though I won't take a cup of coffee back with me!! Thanks. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 28 Mar 01 - 12:14 PM Thanks Letty-though I know Holland very well, it's all by bike as we cycle about 600Km every summer holiday. Mostly in Holland, though we have cycled into Germany-not far though. We use trekkershutten and then stay with our friends in Leiderdorp for a few days before cycling off again to go home. Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Sabine Date: 29 Mar 01 - 01:47 AM Folk, sad but true but I'm unable to join you :o( Just on this weekend my parents will definetly move to their new flat and I have to help them. I'm really sad about that but I hope that this won't be the last gathering of German Mudcatters. I wish you all a pleasant weekend in Münster (mind the "Altbierbowle" *g*). Wolfgang, did you already ask for a place to play at the "Limerick's" ? It's not too big but I know that they like life music there. You can also try at the "Blechtrommel" but I'm not quite sure. Regards, Sabine |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 29 Mar 01 - 03:24 AM Sabine, it's a pity you cannot come. No, I don't think 'Limerick's' or 'Blechtrommel' would be good places. They both have a noisy crowd in there at Saturday evenings and we couldn't or wouldn't make a show for them. I think we'd feel more comfortable in a pub with an extra room for us. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Sabine Date: 29 Mar 01 - 04:12 AM Yes Wolfgang, I forgot that it will be on a Saturday... Did you find a place? Otherwise I will ask a friend of mine who studied severeal years at Münster. She is also a musician and knows several places. Limerick's and Blechtrommel were the only ones I remembered... Sabine |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 29 Mar 01 - 04:41 AM Thanks, but it is not necessary I think. I know a number of places with extra rooms and I'll just have to ask around and have a look myself. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Sabine Date: 29 Mar 01 - 06:01 AM You will manage it, I'm sure :o) Sabine |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Rollo Date: 29 Mar 01 - 05:31 PM Hi Folks! Seems like we will have a great time! Wolfgang, many thanks for organizing. I am sure we will feel great due to your labour. As I love camping (and I am snoring like hell!) I would like to build up a small tent in your garden. There would be room for a second person. Well... about technics - is anyone going by car via hamburg? In this case I am sure I could organize a small 4-channel-mixing unit and a dat recorder plus a couple of microfones. But if I have to go by train I will prefer to carry my banjo - sure you all will understand that! *GGG* bye Rollo
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 31 Mar 01 - 04:51 PM Rollo - whereabouts in Hamburg are you? I'll probably be going down the A1, due to an engagement on the Friday night, so I wouldn't normally go through Hamburg. Also, I'll probably go late on Friday night. But maybe we can arrange something. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Rollo Date: 01 Apr 01 - 04:41 PM Susanne, I am in Harburg (Mitte), if you leave A1 at Neuland you are there in a couple of minutes; going late at friday night is no problem for me. If we can manage this it would be great!
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Ranks Date: 04 Apr 01 - 02:21 AM Good to here, that erverything is going to happen unless the mouth and foot disease is going to stop us. Looking forward to the session. I might be going back to Dorsten on Saturday night or might not. Looking forward to seeing you all
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Letty Date: 04 Apr 01 - 07:55 AM Perhaps we could pick a couple of tunes/songs that we could study and then play together in Muenster... Any comments? BTW, don't think Foot and Mouth is going to stop anyone, I predict German cattle will be infected any time now. Shame. Letty |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 04 Apr 01 - 06:05 PM There is said to be a first outbreak in the Muensterland, where the biggest 'pork factories' in the country are situated. Any definite news, Wolfgang? Any reason to suppose it'll prevent the Mudcat gathering? |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 05 Apr 01 - 04:05 AM No confirmed outbreak yet, but the disease will be here until May. However, there will be no restrictions to movements in a big town. I see no problem yet. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 06 Apr 01 - 01:13 PM Errm, just one question- Do you have any pretty horses?(mares preferably) |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 09 Apr 01 - 06:51 AM Just bought the train ticket (have to book in advance because I bring a bike) so I hope the gathering won't be cancelled... |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: menzze Date: 09 Apr 01 - 12:02 PM Why d'ya ask for horses, Eric??? In fear of mouth & foot disease I suppose. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.*LOL* I'm more and more in doubt if I can make it to come to the meeting, grace to the Landratsamt and the TÜV in Ravensburg. Yeah ,I know, there's still the train left to take........hmmmmm...... Well, we'll see......................................... menzze |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 11 Apr 01 - 04:02 AM 24 days and counting... |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 12 Apr 01 - 09:15 AM 23 days and counting ... |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 12 Apr 01 - 01:40 PM Only joking about the horses- looking forward to getting there. Mudguard, any ideas on costs of things? Is there a music instrument shop near? A CD shop near? Cheers. By the way, can you get oarnge and soda in the pubs?-thats what I drink, most times, I know Bill will be able to get his coke. Eric ps- Any other Catters who want to go? Greg aka Skipjack still has seats left in his car I believe. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 17 Apr 01 - 02:43 PM 18 days and counting... Orange juice, lemonade, mineral water, apple juice should all be available (but I do not know any pub in Münster, it will be my first visit there). Same goes for prices - I guess they will be lower than here in Munich which is a quite expensive town. Looking forward to meet you all! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 18 Apr 01 - 05:38 AM
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: menzze Date: 18 Apr 01 - 06:14 AM Hey MudGuard!
You're coming from Munich, did I got you right? menzze |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 18 Apr 01 - 06:32 AM Menzze, I will ask the engine driver of the train whether he will make a detour to my place of birth (Lindau), but I do not think he will! MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Rollo Date: 18 Apr 01 - 07:17 PM Oh deary deary me!!! It has happened! I will not be able to come!!! *sniff* I am definitely forced to work that weekend... Why, o why must fate be so cruel to me??? *sob* Dear folks, I hope you will have a good time, anyway... *blow nose into hankerchief* and have some good music together, too... *groan* well, to express it in my language: "So 'n schiet aber auch, dammi nochmool!" |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: GUEST,Uilleand Date: 18 Apr 01 - 07:37 PM There'll just have to be another German get together after this one. 'Cause I'll have to miss this one, but I'll be in Ireland from September through May of next year, and hope to see my native land during that time. Maybe, it could coincide with a mudcat get-together.... Sure sorry to miss this one. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 19 Apr 01 - 05:03 PM Just to refresh and also ask. Do we know where we will be playing on the Saturday night? I have some friends in Holland who might drive across to have a listen. Any more takers for Skipjacks car? Cheers. Not too long now!!!-YES Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 20 Apr 01 - 07:11 AM 15 days to go... |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 21 Apr 01 - 10:04 AM Only two weeks to go... |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 22 Apr 01 - 04:47 AM 13 days... |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 22 Apr 01 - 06:21 PM MUNSTER MUDCAT MAY-DAY GATHERING 5/6 May 2001 The cast so far, updated from Wolfgang's summary above: - MudGuard (Andreas - Munich) - mcmoo, mrs mcmoo and possibly miss mcmoo (Belgium) - bill/sables (England) - Eric the Viking (England) - Cobble (England) - Patrish (England) - Skipjack (Greg - England) - Ranks (Dorsten) - Letty (Bochum) - Llanfair (Bron - Wales) - Wolfgang (Muenster) - Susanne (Kiel) Doubtful cases (those who can't say yet or haven't been heard of again since indicating they might like to come): - Schmiddi (Uwe - Karlsruhe) - ??? - Ernest (Berlin) - ??? - Noreen (England) - ??? - The Crazy Bird (Denmark) - ??? - menzze (Lake Constance) - ??? - George & Chris Hawes (Cambridge) - ??? - John C (Austria) - ??? - Ina (Passau) - ??? br> Please confirm / deny and add any other comments coming into your head ... :-) I'll be arriving some time Friday night / Saturday morning. Wolfgang, if you go for the rolls in the morning and find a middle-aged white Kadett Kombi with Kiel numberplates and a stout and rather dishevelled-looking middle-aged female hippie in a purple sleeping-bag inside parked outside your house - that's me. In that case, please give me a knock! BTW - I quite like the idea of a guided walk of Muenster on the Sunday morning (or Saturday afternoon)! I think I'll bring a few songbooks, just in case! CDs as well? If it's to be broadcast on Mudcat Radio we could sing some of the songs that have been lacking tunes so far in the DT. - Sorry, no, Rollo was going to bring the equipment. Greetings to Rollo, the Duck family, Les, Uilleand, Joe Offer and anybody else who has thought about joining us and is prevented by circumstances. We might start planning another Mudcat gathering for 2002 so that everybody gets ample warning! We could even suggest a special 'Folk on the Internet' event to the Rudolstadt Folk Festival organisers and get ourselves free access there. Would offset the cost of travelling to Thuringia somewhat ...
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 22 Apr 01 - 06:34 PM Oops - that should have read MUENSTER MUDCAT MAY-DAY GATHERING 5/6 May 2001 |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 23 Apr 01 - 06:46 AM 12 days... if I look at the list of participants, I think we should rename this thread to "European Mudcatters get-together. 5 of 12 people come from England, 1 from Wales, 1 from Belgium and only 5 (less than half!) from Germany... About the same pictures in the "unsure" section, 4 of 9 Germans only... But then, the British speak of Europe as the continent, not including Britain and Ireland...
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:04 AM DIRECTIONS if you come by train: Take either bus #2 or bus #10 just outside of the main entrance of the station (same side as the station, not opposite). Say 'Dechanei Strasse' to the driver and you'll get a ticket for a short ride. Leave at 'Dechanei Strasse' and Wiener Str. starts just at the opposite side of the street where you left the bus. You'll have a walk of 200 m. if you come by plane: At Muenster/Osnabrueck airport you'll take the bus to Muenster Main Station and once there you'll proceed as above.
if you come by car and come from the (South)West or South: in both cases at the Autobahn 'crossing' 'Münster Süd' you follow the sign to Muenster and drive straight on even if the Autobahn has finished. The street you'll drive in will be called 'Weseler Str.' and follow it all the time (signposts: 'Centrum') until you see at the left hand side a MacDonald's 'restaurant'. if you come by car and come from the North: you'll leave the Autobahn at 'Greven' (the sign directly at the exit says also 'M$uuml;nster Ost') and head for Muenster. The street is all way long 'Schiffahrter Damm' for about 12 km. You follow this street with all it's turns and when you reach Muenster you still drive on for another 2 km. Immediately after a level railway crossing (disregard all other railway crossings before like e.g. when you are on a bridge across the railway, wait for the level crossing). You'll be in 'Ostmark Str.' now and Wiener Str. will be the third street left.
MAPS: As for the general approach to Muenster look here As for an interactive street map click here. General timetable (open to suggestions):
Saturday, 5th of May, early afternoon: Meeting at Wiener Str. 24 Everthing else like shopping (Saturday morning, monday morning?), another walk (Sunday morning) will be organised on spot. I'd love to get more or less final feedback who is coming and when. As I said in another post, if you are already here on Friday night, don't hesitate to give me a call. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:09 AM for those coming from the North: Immeadiately after a level railway crossing turn right
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:31 AM Individual feedbacks or questions: - the best record shop in town has closed 2 weeks ago. I have no idea yet which place has now anything close to folk music. I'll try to find out until then. (Susanne: Nottuln folkshop has only open the second Saturday in May, hasn't it, or do you think they'd make an exception for a bunch of folkies???) - There is a shop with music books downtown, not bad, but not specialised in folk - all shops for food or similar things (Eric: tobacco) are at walking distance from me (shops will close at about Saturday 2pm and be not open on Sunday) - Menzze: I can imagine how awful it is to take the wrong means of transport, for I'd hate to take the car for such a long distance. Give taking the train another thought. - directions where we are (if not at my place) will be pinned at my door, so any listeners from whereever should be able to find their way. - prices might be a bit cheaper than in Great Britain, but not much. - Eric: 500 g of coffee cost from 5 to 10 DM, with 8 DM being a good guess. BTW, do you really mean 'coke pipe tocacco' or am I misreading? Pipe tobacco varies a lot in prices, 10 to 15 DM for 100 g is my guess, but I'm a nonsmoker since 15 years. I've no idea about prices for chips (do you mean a deep frieds or in which state). - there is everything to drink at German pubs not just alcoholic drinks. - the British might consider buying the cheap Scottish malt whisies over here. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Lady McMoo Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:31 AM Dear Wolfgang, Clan McMoo(3)are definitely coming and we have booked accomodation already. We should be there by early afternoon on the 5th. Best regards, mcmoo |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 23 Apr 01 - 08:00 AM Susanne, I'll give you a knock (I go for the rolls from 7.30 on, depending on my daughters waking time, that's fine?). If you are not too late in Muenster at Friday night, ring the doorbell. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 23 Apr 01 - 08:36 AM Wolfgang, my train is supposed to reach Münster at 22:28 on Friday night. I will head straight to my cousin's place. Saturday morning I will spend with her or on my own, I will come to your place sometime between 14:00 and 15:30. MudGuard/Andreas |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Letty Date: 23 Apr 01 - 12:28 PM Mudguard-- And some of the people from Germany aren't even German... Definitely a European meeting! I'm really looking forward to it. I still think it might be a good idea to pick a tune/song to learn in advance, esp. since we might be recording it for Mudcat radio. Letty |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:16 PM I'm so excited!!! I haven't booked anywhere to sleep, yet, and I'd rather not carry a sleeping bag and stuff on the train to Yorkshire. Could someone in Muenster book me a low price b&b please? Or find me an otherwise unoccupied bed!!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:23 PM Bron, I am looking forward to meeting you again! MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:24 PM Oh great,-this is holding my life together at the moment. I can't wait, even though it's really only an overnight stop for most of us Brits. please don't believe everything you see or hear or read about Brits being non European. Shame the shops shut on saturday afternoons, do the supermarkets stay open until later? No shops open at all on sunday? Are prices similar to those in the Netherlands? If so I am very familiar with them. STILL NEED PASSENGERS FOR SKIPJACKS CAR-not shouting really,just trying to help. See you very soon I make it 11 days tomorrow that we sail!!!!!!!! One question to anyone out there who is going. DO know where I can get "Gorilla snot"?(Sort of glue to hold picks still in between thumb and finger) My carpel tunnel problem in my right hand is causing me to loose grip on my picks. Cheers. Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:29 PM Hey Bron. You and me must have been messages that passed in the night. I'm looking forward to seeing you again. Noreen are you definately coming?-I'll try not to have a cold this time!!!! Sleeping arrangments? Am I ok for a bit of floor space for my sleeping bag?-I don't snore much. And one other question-How will your neighbours react with all of us around? Cheers. Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: bill\sables Date: 23 Apr 01 - 04:43 PM Noreen is coming!!! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 23 Apr 01 - 06:02 PM Hi, Eric, I'm looking forward to seeing everyone again, too. Are you coming, Noreen? I do hope so. Mudguard, it will be good to see you again. When does our luxury liner get back to Hull? I need to sort out the train timetable, and I suspect there will be few trains on bank holiday monday!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 23 Apr 01 - 07:13 PM Yes, I will be joining you!Bill had to work hard to persuade me that I would enjoy myself, I wasn't too sure about that... *grin* Can't wait!!Now, when's that meeting with the bank mananger... |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 24 Apr 01 - 03:00 AM Of course I look forward to meeting everyone for the first time (except, as stated before, Llanfair, the only one of the lot I have already met). It's really exciting! In Germany, shops are allowed to open Monday to Friday 8:00 to 20:00 and Saturday 8:00 to 16:00. There are a few exceptions: bakers may open for three hours on Sundays, bakers and newsagents may open earlier in the morning (I think from 6:00 but I am not really sure about it), shops at filling stations, airports and train stations may sell "travel goods" around the clock. "travel goods" is interpreted very freely - it is no problem to get alcoholic drinks (bottled) at filling stations... 11 days till we meet! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 24 Apr 01 - 04:27 AM for opening hours: see Mudguard's post (downtown, you'll find shops open until 4pm on Saturdays, but not near my place (downtown is a 20 min walk) prices are similar to the Netherlands Bron, we'll find some place for you (in the worst case: in my sleeping bag on the floor). However, I could book a hotel for you (no B&B as you know them in Germany): roughly 100 DM for a night including breakfast would be my guess. Let me know if I should book. What will the neighbours say? Not much I guess, for we are usually rather quiet. As for Rainer and Gaby, immediately below us, I know which room they sleep in and we'll be in the most distant room in the flat. As for the others, Angelika is in principle a Mudcatter as well (though she posted only once with a special request) and James will be delighted to hear his native language spoken instead of that awful German. All others are too remote to care. Should the food when we go out rather be cheap or good??? Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 24 Apr 01 - 06:15 AM How should be the food: Cheap, much and good! MudGuard (who loves to eat as you can see when you see him) |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 24 Apr 01 - 10:55 AM Thanks, Wolfgang, I'll go for the floorspace if that's OK. I'd rather spend my Marks on good food, and I'd like to stay with the "in" crowd!! My passport arrived today. I was getting a bit anxious about it!! See you all soon. Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: bill\sables Date: 24 Apr 01 - 07:25 PM Definates from England are Bill Sables, Eric The Viking, Patrish, Cobble, Skipjack, Noreen and Llanfair. We should be arriving around noon on Saturday and will be leaving around 1-00pm Sunday. Bill |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 25 Apr 01 - 04:23 AM Thanks for all the feedback so far. I'll be checking on the weekend places to eat and/or play and let you know on Monday. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 25 Apr 01 - 08:12 AM I hope Llanfair won't kill bill\sables for mis-placing her as she lives in Wales, not England! MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 25 Apr 01 - 09:54 AM Ah, but she will be travelling from England, so she may let him get away with it. :0) And I agree with MudGuard about the food! (Could be wurst...) |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 25 Apr 01 - 12:58 PM She'll be traveling through England... MudGuard (called Genaunehmer [which translates roughly to "Take-it-Exactly"] by his niece for some reason he can't understand) Btw, 10 days to go |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 26 Apr 01 - 09:06 AM 9 days only! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 26 Apr 01 - 09:42 AM And also from the Port of Hull, which is in England, MudGuard (whatever the Yorkies might say)! Two can play at that game... :0) |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 26 Apr 01 - 10:51 AM I know now, where our best instrument shop is. I also know where the two records shops are that might be able to replace our only good shop. But perhaps they only have the fourth reunion CD of the Fureys and the seventh Dubliners celebration album. The old shop was at least so good to have the newest Waterson:Carthy CD. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 26 Apr 01 - 01:51 PM IMPORTANT This is for everyone travelling from the UK next weekend. Bill told me this last night and I have just rung P&O to confirm. You CANNOT take any, food or drink off the boat at Rotterdam. They mean ANYTHING. No chocolate, any drink, no sandwiches, tins of beans! chewing gum,NO FOODSTUFF at all. P&O say you can take what you like onto the boat, but thats as far as it gets. Dutch customs are thouroughly checking every vehicle and confiscating any food or drink they find. There is however a McDonalds**** about 6Km from the port and places on the way across to get stuff, if we can't wait until Germany. Sorry Noreen, no Eccles cakes! Greg-No grub!Bron-no cheese or veg sarnies etc. As for me-no chocolate-what a disaster!!!! I think there is no problem bringing back stuff and I didn't ask them about buying Cigs or stuff like that on the boat, so I don't know. I'll wait until we get there to buy any cigars or pipe tobacco and bring it back, but it does mean we'll have to be careful that we don't have anything with us that could cause a problem for the drivers. NOT LONG TO GO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 26 Apr 01 - 02:24 PM Noreen, Bron will travel from Llanfair Caereinion [I guess that's why her nickname is Llanfair], which is-- whatever the English say - in Wales! She will be going through Hull wherever that may be ;-) MudGuard (who does not give up easily) |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 26 Apr 01 - 03:08 PM Oh all right then, MudGuard... anything for an easy life... :0) Eric- thanks for the warning- but I fail to see how a bar of chocolate or a pre-packed carton of fruit juice is going to import F&M into Holland! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 26 Apr 01 - 03:16 PM No portmanteau of comestibles, Greg... :0( |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 26 Apr 01 - 04:05 PM NO FOOD OR DRINK! Thats exactly what I asked P&O who feel that the Dutch are being just a little bit too enthusiastic, we also have to drive through a disinfectant thing-what's on your feet(ie traces of mud or other substances) is irrelavent, unless we have to walk through something? I'm glad that we are not (my lot and I) on our bicycles for another 3 months, because we need to carry liquid with us for the kids. I am just repeating what I was told by P&O. NOTHING edable or drinkable, I personally feel it's a load of rubbish, as the virus can be carried on clothes and all sorts of other things from what I hear. How a bar of chocolate, a carton of drink, even a bottle of beer can carry it I don't know.Surely anything prepackaged at the point of origin must be safe. After all, there are container loads of stuff going through all the European ports every day. One good thing, they might disinfect melodians with a flamethrower-Ouch Pat, that hurt!! It applies to everyone who goes through the ports, so it's not anti UK, but heavy protection I guess. Just think this time tomorrow, and one week hence we'll be sailing out of the Humber and well on our way!!!! :-) :-) :-} |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Skipjack K8 Date: 26 Apr 01 - 04:15 PM I guess that means if it takes a little longer, and we have to eat the cabin boy, there's no doggy bags Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Skipjack K8 Date: 26 Apr 01 - 04:16 PM I guess that means if it takes a little longer, and we have to eat the cabin boy, there's no doggy bags Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 26 Apr 01 - 05:49 PM OK, Mudguard and Noreen, ENOUGH!!!!!!!! I'm travelling, by train from Powys, Wales, to Doncaster, Yorkshire. I am mostly English with Welsh ancestors, and that is about as clear as it gets!!!! Ach y fi!!!!!!! Eric, I suppose the restriction applies to Marmite and lettuce butties (a personal favourite) and Welshcakes? oh well, Im sure we won't starve, there's probably VERY expensive food on the ferry!!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 27 Apr 01 - 03:54 AM Hey, Llanfair, don't get involved in my "fight" with Noreen! ;-) Do you take the narrow-gauge train from Llanfair C. or do you go by car to Welshpool? To all the car drivers coming from England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland ...: don't forget to drive on the right side of the road when you leave boat in Rotterdam ;-) And on your return trip when leaving the boat in Hull, don't forget to switch back to driving on the wrong side of the road again ;-) 8 days and still counting (although I get almost too excited to get the numbers right!) MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Skipjack K8 Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:16 PM I'll just head down the middle, Muds. It's an Italian car, therefore all rules are waived! Skipjack |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 27 Apr 01 - 02:08 PM Just to let you know. I have had it confirmed by the Netherland office of tourism that the restrictions are true. No foodstuff or drink to be taken into Holland, not even, polo's or gum, oH dear!!!!! Mudguard, you are really confusing me and this will cause a problem!! When I am in Holland, I always ride on the cycle paths, How will Bill get his car on there, and Skipjack in his Italian stallion has an even bigger car-but it is not red. Did you see the local news in Yorkshire-The new ferry looks excellent, my wife is spitting teeth!!!!!!!!! She wanted to go on it and we are booked on the old one for our cycle trip in the summer. She nearly changed her mind and said I could'nt come. So I kissed her and she said I could go for a month to get out of her way.(only joking) This time next week,we shall be passing out of the lock gates and into the Humber on our way-YES YES!! Bye Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Rollo Date: 27 Apr 01 - 09:06 PM Llanfair: the pure existance of this MARMITE stuff is reason enough for every sanction the Netherlands declare upon imports from the UK... how can you DARE even to think about the possibility of bringing this unholy potion to the mainland??? Beside, I will forever wonder what marmite includes. Only one thing is definite: goo of a very, very sick skunk is an essential part of it. hence the delicious taste. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Llanfair Date: 28 Apr 01 - 04:28 AM Ha!!!!! a marmite hater!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think there was a thread on this subject a while ago. Are you telling me that Marmite is UNAVAILABLE in Holland? What about Germany? And no, vegemite WON'T do!!!!! Cheers, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 28 Apr 01 - 09:38 AM 7 days from now! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Susanne (skw) Date: 28 Apr 01 - 01:15 PM Llanfair, we have an English shop in Kiel. Maybe they've got some Marmite in stock from before FMD struck. Should I ask them? I could also bring some Fray Bentos tinned pies, Heinz sandwich spread, Cadbury Easter eggs - anything else? (What they've run out of is Cheddar, to my chagrin.) See you all soon! |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 28 Apr 01 - 01:42 PM So next saturday it will be 19.41 local time-will be shovelling food somewhere? It's getting closer. Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Noreen Date: 28 Apr 01 - 03:17 PM That all you going for, Eric??? And a glimpse of my (illegally imported) sheepy socks? |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Eric the Viking Date: 28 Apr 01 - 05:42 PM 'ere, skip-bugger the cabin boy and jolly old Roger, or should that be roger old Jolly? Noreen-them socks had better be clean, we don't want the Dutch to think we are smuggling cheese!! And look out for seamen staines- Don't kiss the captains daughter!! There must be lots of seafaring stuff to keep us going until LLOD (last log on day) Thursday!! Cheers Eric |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: MudGuard Date: 29 Apr 01 - 05:48 AM This thread has become quite long. Please continue in new thread MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: Wolfgang Date: 03 May 01 - 06:18 AM All the information is somewhere in the old threads, but not easy to find. So here you go, for the most vital details:
Who/Where:
When: Why: Ah, you should know that by now. Timetable: open to changes
- I'll be at home on Saturday, so come whenever you are there or feel like Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: German Mudcatters get-together Part 2 From: John Routledge Date: 04 May 01 - 06:27 PM Wolfgang - Are we getting a progress report 4 times a day.*BG* Have a wonderful time everyone and take care.GB |
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