Beverley folk festival

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,Carole Dalton
Date: 16 Mar 02 - 01:06 PM

I've only just picked up on this thread and there are so many that I haven't the time, just yet, to finish reading them all. However, I play in a three-part harmony Folk/Rock band and from time to time we play at The East Yorkshire pub in Beverley. For those of you who know it, yes it's modern, it's carpeted and it's an eating house. But, Harry the landlord is very pro live music and I know that if you need another venue he would host one. If any of you are interested get in touch with him. I won't post the number here because I'm not sure if it's the done thing or not but it is in the Yellow Pages. If something does come of this OUTSIDER wouldn't mind a mention!

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: oombanjo
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 03:46 PM

ANY ONE GOING TO MAGIE'S BIRTHDAY IN THE KINGSTON SAT NIGHT. THERE COULD BE A FEW INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS. don't u think???????

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 04:35 AM

Good news about the Leisure Centre side, however if the council are involved we may get into the realms of Liability Insurance so be prepared (though perhaps as the main fest will still have this we can pinch it for a year ?) but it's a positive response. I like the idea of 'the People's Voice Folk Festival, Beverley'. I've spoken to Padgett he informs me that Booker wasn't going to come this year (he's wants to spend some time at his caravan and is watching his pennies) I don't think Nigel ever bothered about Beverley. Ray had only just found out, I think reading between the lines he wants to come and has certainly asked me to keep him informed I think knowing Ray he would like to be 'invited' formally and could I suggest that when we know definites 'we' do that. I said that it wouldn't be Beverley without the little dwarf and I know most folk would agree. He did come out with a statement that I liked, he said that doing the 'Fringe' would be Beverley going back to it's 'Roots' and that the Festival had rather lost it's way, again I think he's spot on. So how about The People's Voice Folk Festival - Beverley with the slogan 'Back to it's Roots' ? I as you know offer any help I can, will be involved in any committee or at least you can put my name down but living in Sheffield attendance is the problem

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 07:15 PM

Thats prob a better idea, yes.... I was just thinking that as the Kingston is (presumably) happening anyway & w/out sounding 'mercenary', the Beverley-dwelling chaps presumably have cars, wheras none of us THIS end (I'm thinking yourself, Les&Maggie & myself) have...

Just a thought...

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 07:11 PM

now there's a thought....but I might be elsewhere on friday!...shouldn't we do as Roger suggests & meet at one of the Beverley pubs...Hodgsons?

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 07:08 PM

Widder....well this whole thing sounds like a go-er....

Whats happening with everyone getting together to discuss stuff? Do we invite folks down to the Kingston on Friday?

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: oombanjo
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 03:37 PM

Latest update. Monday 11/3/02. I had a meeting with the liesure cntr manager this morning. As some of you are aware I get the fields prapared prior to the festival,and sorted out after. John the manager is not apposed to opening the field/facilities for the festival fringe, so he put me in contact with Alan Menzies. The single problem I have, is that the two football fields are to be upgraded mid April this year, (so I suggested that we close off the top half of the field). This approach was accepted and the half field by the grounds can be offered (from the edge of the cricket wicket to the Grounds) What the council would require from the fringe is, responsible management consisting of two or three people and, if poss, a meeting with same and maybe a landlord or two. If you are interested contact me on my email for Alan Menzies number and any other detail. Oombanjo.

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 02:14 PM

I liked the people's suggestions but perhaps it should be:

"The People's Voice Folk Festival, Beverley" so that we aren't seen to be pinching the title of the official one.

Roger

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:58 AM

.....and traitors fear. Keep me informed don't know if I can get over for any meetings although I will try but my unswerving support (or truss) is here for you. have left a message with Padget will let you know his reply. We'll sing the Red Flag once a year

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:51 AM

Roger ...a good idea I think...I'll PM you with my details and with Mike's from Hodgsons. Up the revolution eh Jim!....Though cowards flinch....

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:35 AM

I just thought that Chris and Denny are mates and may do us a favour if they can. If one of the 'ull lot are going could they bend an ear

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:33 AM

Things do seem to be moving - sorry of I keep dipping in and out but I am pretty busy sorting out my Dad's estate at the moment.

Anyway, it seems to me that this conference thread has served a very good purpose in getting us all fired up but that it is a quite cumbersome mechanism for actually organising any detail. Perhaps those that are keen to proceed should get together(at Hodgson's, widder?)and thrash things out more fully with all interested parties. At the very least we should exchange contact details with each other so that we can talk directly.

Another thought - I'm sure that, from some of the sentiments expressed here, not many people want the "old management" involved in this. However, it might be worthwhile pointing out to Barry at the Playhouse that, should he happen to book a folk act into the Playhouse that weekend, he would get a pretty good audience!

Roger

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:28 AM

About the suggestion that we invite Chris & Denny...well Last Night's Fun are on at Nellies next Monday...is anyone going?

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:26 AM

Some a bit prloletarian come the revolution if so can I be Karl Marx !! I like the 'peoples voice' bit, but I think the copyright police (aka Adastra Enterprises International PLC) may object Janet. The People's Voice - Fringe Folk Festival of Beverley or how about The Beverley Folk Festival Popular Front (are you the Popular Front for Beverley Folk Festival- Nah f*ck off that's him over there). The Peoples Voice-Folk around Beverley how about that one ?

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 11:16 AM

Janet...the Landlord's wife at Hodgson's suggests 'The Peoples Voice Beverley folk Festival' Good eh?

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 09:40 AM

It certainly does!

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 09:19 AM

I think you're 'spot on' Paul about the old committee. Ray, Rich & Jean were and still are pals. I mean the first few years at Bverley I actually stayed at Ray's house over the weekend.I think the Ray and Johnny 'incident' had more to with them upstairs in the Folk Club room putting their oar in that coupled with a prat of a landlord and some beligerent locals at Nellies. I think since the new 'Adastra PLC' mangement have taken over it's gone along a singulary too commercial route for my liking. However 'Son of Beverley Folk Festival' or as you have very succinctly put Beverley 'Fringe' Folk Festival looks as if it's ready to rumble.

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 08:49 AM

Good point about the printed advertising, Willa!

Well it looks like we really have the makings of something here.

As far as I can recall, its always been held the same w/end....the w/end that Fathers Day falls.

....& sorry to keep harping on about the old Committee & the 'Fringe', Jim....as you say, Ray, Rich & Jean, etc, were always pals of yours, & I myself dont think there was much chance that they would use the plans for the road as an excuse to 'squeeze' the Fringe. Things do seem to have got a little heavy-handed since they went though, & elbowing out Gary & Bron & the 'Scouts' STUNK, quite frankly... & I dunno why it happened that Ray P & Johnny B got 'elbowed out' that time....it made no sense, & that WAS back in the days of the old Committee, wasnt it.

Anyway, here's to this years 'Beverley 'Fringe' Festival'!!!

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 08:12 AM

Sorry just back into work and picked up these threads. Roger I will give Padgett & Co a ring. Seems good news from Hodgsons especially if we can swing camping and a 'showcase' concert type thingy would be great there. Just a thought with Chris Sherburn living in Hull how about seeing if they'd (Chris & Denny) do us a 'freebie' ? for the Sat night. Les I offered 'your' services cos I know you've got a flair for the auld DTP. I can if you e-mail any stuff get photocopying done here at my new employ , thanks for being Rhett Oktober i shall hunt you down ha ! I think I'll be Rhett Tha'knows (very South Yorkshire) by the sound of it we've come a long way in a short time and things are looking hopefull. By the way the official date for the cancelled fest was the weekend of 21st or that's what I've got in my diary

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,SarahC
Date: 11 Mar 02 - 07:06 AM

I've just found my copy of Tykes News and the deadline for the June edition is April 20.

Cheers Sarah Cheffins

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Willa
Date: 10 Mar 02 - 03:39 PM

Some workshops are normally held in rooms in the Friary; they may still be expecting them to be used for the festival. Much publicity material will already include the dates of the Festival, and I doubt if the authorities will bother to reprint it, so there will be visitors who expect to find events going on as usual.

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: SarahC
Date: 10 Mar 02 - 05:32 AM

I'm pretty sure we have no engagements on the two weekends in question so Kinin will be available as a band if needed. I've been a regular Beverley attender for a few years now and the loss of this year's festival was going to be a hole in my session calendar.

Cheers Sarah Cheffins Kinin

www.kinin.co.uk

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 10 Mar 02 - 04:52 AM

something else Mike (Hodgson's Landlord) said was that lots of B&Bs and pubs with B&B rooms save them exclusively for the festival....for artists etc....so B&B accomodation will be much easier to find than usual that weekend

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 09 Mar 02 - 04:30 PM

I've spoken to the landlord at Hodgsons...he'd considered his upstairs room booked for the festival and turned down other bookings, he was planning to put food on and only found out it was cancelled in the press. He has already approached other local publicans to consider going ahead with the festival anyway and said if necessary he would book acts (although he admitted he would need advice on that)...he also suggested he ask about allowing camping on the raised area alongside the pub...council property not the pubs....he suggested a donation of say £5 a night to a council approved charity.

He also has a Brewery....Wawne...and it does a more than decent pint!!

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: oombanjo
Date: 09 Mar 02 - 12:37 PM

Just as a ps I have asked for a meeting with the liesure cntr manager on monday. Iwill keep you updated

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: oombanjo
Date: 09 Mar 02 - 12:33 PM

Iwas talking to Bill Sables on Friday, He says that the mudcatters may be looking for a new venue for their annual gathering maybe we could join the two ???

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 09 Mar 02 - 11:12 AM

I have been in to the Sun(Tap&Spile) and the new people are very into live music. So, we are on for the usual singaround in there on Saturday and Sunday - beer and food supplied for whoever runs it.

Roger

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Les from Hull
Date: 09 Mar 02 - 09:45 AM

Yes Linda, this old barn could be a theatre - let's do the show RIGHT HERE!

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 03:40 PM

so you did Les sorry First comittee meeting in 1 hour at the Kingston?

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 03:22 PM

I'm sure this is a storyline from an old Hollywood movie! Any help required you know where I am!

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 03:17 PM

Les-If you need any paper just let me know, I will nick some from work.

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Les from Hull
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 03:08 PM

Sir Roger - about the radio thing, you need to talk to Radio Humberside who co-ordinate the folk programme for the whole area. Henry Ayrton is the presenter/producer and Brian Swinton does the diary. They don't go to the same sessions I go to very often, but the office will give you a contact.

Brid Widd - I did mention the commercial site earlier on in this thread. I presume it's still there? About two miles south on the Hull road. That means that there's a bus an hour, for those who don't want to drive in.

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 02:58 PM

John the 'problem' with the Beverley Hostel was only that we wanted it during the winter when it's closed. Hostel B&Bs floorspace...there's lots of accomodation available although a campsite would still be brill...we could well have the possibility of an excellent festival here!!!

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 02:58 PM

I agree with Jim that if we could have "official" sessions in the Tap/Sun and the Tiger as normal that would be the basis of the whole thing(did you say that you would try out Johnny and Ray about running that, Jim?).

Other folk friendly pubs would offer the fringe of the fringe on an ad hoc basis and then if, say, three or four pubs would put on a paid act by adjusting their normal policy to cover each evening of the weekend we don't need anything else.

I'll approach the new people at the Sun and /Brid Widder offered to talk to Hodgsons - anyone know the management of the Tiger/Nellies/Forresters/Mariners?

Could we then approach the Chamber of Trade and/or the Licensed Victuallers to pay for printing and distributing leaflets and posters around the clubs? We need to tell people that something is going on because the message will have gone out that it is all off. Anyone have a contact in folk radio? Anyone know the copy date for the next Tykes News etc?

Are we looking at the weekend of the 14/15/16th June as that is the equivalent to last years dates?

So what do we call what we have created here? "Not the Beverley Folk Festival", "Beverley Fringe Festival", "Beverley - Back to Basics"?

John - yes the Tuesdays are still happening at the Sun and we should be there this coming Tuesday: I missed the last one because of my father but they managed without me.

Roger

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Les from Hull
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 02:53 PM

Publishing stuff using the computer - if we need any posters, leaflets or anything like that. It would be nice if we had a tiny budget for this. I'm happy to give my time for nothing (and I've plenty of that since I retired), but I don't want to get stuck with too much cost.

Incidentally, I did want to help when the organising committee retired and I was offered the job of producing the official programme. Richard used to sweat blood over this (and he's a DTP professional) so in the end I declined their offer.

We also do need to assure Chris Wade and the good burghers of Beverley (can you get a good burgher in Beverley?) that we are not taking over the Beverley Folk Festival, we are only marking time till they can get their act together again.

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 02:30 PM

Les-What's your DTP thing?

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Les from Hull
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 02:16 PM

Yes I'll go along with all this, even with Jim offering my services in a duo/trio and the DTP thing. So we are looking for: accommodation, venues and dates. Just give me a s shout and tell me what to do.

Les (aka Rhett Oktober)

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 02:00 PM

dropping in on this discussion, what you're talking about is what happened in Middlewich Landlords quickly picked up on the buzz that people were coming anyway, so booked various local folkies for odd nights, and deals were being struck with arriving musicians as to wherethey would play and for what, more or less as they arrived. The sessions developed in the usual way in the pubs without acts, or in the gaps between acts, and hey presto its a folk festival. no insurance, no marquees,no stewards, no committees,no budget, no regional arts boards,...just a festival, really. remember the 60's?

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 01:50 PM

MC Fat-Your son will probably know exactly who to ask.
brid widder-There was a suggestion of using Beverley Youth Hostel for a gathering venue, but if I remember correctly there was some problem with this, they don't hire it to non-members or it was fully booked or something.
Sir Roger of Beverley-I think the idea of getting pubs to book folk acts is really good, it would be really good if they could book some Mudcat acts like 442 and The Pack as well.Is your beginers session still on for Tuesday? I went last week and it was really good.Maybe people could share their ideas there if it is still on.

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 11:52 AM

Roger I suggest it's best to stick to where the (official)festival should have been placed. The offer from the Dog sounds good. Perhaps they (and other hostelries) may be able to screw some dosh from their suppliers ? If we got some money it could go to helping get people backwards and forwards to Racecourse or Cottingham (or wherever)and maybe help with a bit of publicity/posters once we know things are firmed up. I'd be happy to help with any Desk Top Publishing as I'm sure Les would as well !!!So is it looking like interested pubs as ? Dog, Tap/Sun (?), Nellies (?), Tiger (?), Hodgsons (?) suppose there would be the usual split of the mussos etc they're used to using the Tiger or rooms at Nellies. God it nearly sounds like an organising committee !!!

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 11:28 AM

Dates

I'm not sure whether the weekend of the 15th or the 22nd June corresponds most closely to what has gone before.

I have talked to Mark who runs the Dog and Duck next to the playhouse (apparently he used to run the bar at the playhouse during the festivals before Barry took over). He is friends with the people that run the racecourse and has offered to investigate whether the racecourse facilities could be made available for camping and caravans - he feels that it is a distinct possibility since there are no races on those dates. He also offered the D&D as avenue for sessions.

Roger

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 08:22 AM

Roger, I'm up for offering myself (or with others) as someone to play at any of the above pubs. Perhaps I could do a duo/trio with Les & Maggie maybe it could be the first 'official' gig of my new occasional band 'THE TWO RHETTS' who will have the slogan 'F*CK ME IT'S THE TWO RHETTS'. Float the idea Roger I know we'll all be up for it.

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 06:18 AM

Roger, what dates are we looking at. I will try and get a posse from the south bank together.

Skipjack

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 06:04 AM

Another thought:

There are several pubs in Beverley which regularly book acoustic acts - the Forresters, the Sun, the Mariners, Hodgsons to name but four. If we talked to them is it not possible that between them they could each book an act so that there is someone playing on Friday, Saturday and Sunday night and we have free entry entertainment for those that don't want to be playing in sessions all the time and it won't cost us anything to put on! Add that to the sessions in those pubs and clubs mentioned in earlier messages and we've got a back to basics festival.

Roger

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: SarahC
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 02:21 AM

I like the sound of an 'official' fringe festival. I'm sure the musicians who normally just like to do the sessions are up for this - I certainly would be.

Go for it.

Cheers Sarah Cheffins

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: harpmaker
Date: 07 Mar 02 - 09:14 PM

Insurance a problem, You bet. Best off going with Greg Stephens experience, That it will happen anyhow. So every body, just be there anyhow/anyway.

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 07 Mar 02 - 06:58 PM

Name the day Roger....and if you give us all a week or so maybe we could all look into our own suggestions and bring that info together....I dont mind speaking to the landlord at Hodgsons and trying to contact scout groups and churches in the area...the idea of the campsite still being available is one I hadn't thought of....might insurance be a problem?

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 07 Mar 02 - 02:43 PM

Perhaps we could persuade the Beverley Chanber of Trade to make a modest contribution - say a tenner per shop and pub in the town. Attracting a festival crowd must be worth at least that to them!

Also, unless they were tipped off ahead of time, won't the council have automatically put in a reserved booking for the camping field for that weekend when they opened their accounts for the year. It is unlikely that they would have let it to anyone else is it? In which case it should be available for camping as per usual.

Perhaps we need to have a face-to-face meeting about all this and thrash out what we think may be possible.

Roger

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: selby
Date: 07 Mar 02 - 01:13 PM

At the end of this year The World Jamboree for Scouts takes place in Thailand each scout who is going has to raise £2500 I think armed with that knowledge for a donation most scout troops will be prepared to help.Hire Marquees,cook food, steward,etc. Keith

Subject: RE: Beverley folk festival
From: brid widder
Date: 07 Mar 02 - 01:01 PM

Like I said earlier we could use the Youth hostel...probably exclusively... and I wonder if we could maybe persuade a church or scout hut to allow indoor camping?...the scouts have always had a soft spot for us!I'll ask around see if I can come up with something. We should certainly give it a try.

as for the announcement from Adastra...well have they only just realised it's the Jubilee thingy this year?