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BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember

Amos 01 Dec 04 - 06:39 PM
Peace 01 Dec 04 - 06:50 PM
mack/misophist 01 Dec 04 - 11:28 PM
Billy the Bus 02 Dec 04 - 05:15 AM
Bobert 02 Dec 04 - 08:28 AM
Pauline L 02 Dec 04 - 11:13 AM
Cluin 02 Dec 04 - 11:27 AM
Cluin 02 Dec 04 - 11:30 AM
Cluin 02 Dec 04 - 02:13 PM
Kaleea 03 Dec 04 - 03:24 AM
Tannywheeler 03 Dec 04 - 03:01 PM
Boab 04 Dec 04 - 04:35 AM
GUEST,Finn_Mac_Cuhal 11 Dec 04 - 10:11 AM

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Subject: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Amos
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 06:39 PM

On Dec. 1, 1955, Rosa Parks, a black seamstress, defied the law by refusing to give up her seat to a white man aboard a Montgomery, Ala., city bus. Parks was arrested, sparking a year-long boycott of the buses by blacks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Peace
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 06:50 PM

"The bus incident led to the formation of the Montgomery Improvement Association, led by the young pastor of the Dexter Avenue Baptist Church, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. The association called for a boycott of the city-owned bus company. The boycott lasted 382 days and brought Mrs. Parks, Dr. King, and their cause to the attention of the world. A Supreme Court Decision struck down the Montgomery ordinance under which Mrs. Parks had been fined, and outlawed racial segregation on public transportation."

A victory for humanity by a brave woman who didn't turn the other cheek.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: mack/misophist
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 11:28 PM

True. Though it must be admitted that she later confessed that it happened mostly because she was just too tired to put up with any stupid shit. Whatever works.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 05:15 AM

Thank for the reminfer Amos. A great lady. If you miss me at the back of the bus, come down front - I'll be driving right here. I'll sing the song tomorrow - if anyone climbs on te bus.

Cheers - Sam


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 08:28 AM

Just a sad footnote here but the voters of Alabama just this past month voted on a referendum to keep "segregationist" language in their constitution when it comes to white and "colored" children being educated in the same schools.

This is not a joke. The difference in vote totals fir the entire state was only about 1800 votes but the language prevailed.

I'm sure Dr. King would find this dismal.

Also, we really haven't achieved the goals of Brown v. Borad of Eductaion in that, yeah, we've made some strides but, fir the most part, we still have a long way to go in completely desegraating our schools.

In the DC area we have few if any truly desegregated schools. Most are either *predominantly* black or white...

Sorry to throw a wet blanket on remembering the achievements and courage of Rosa Parks. She is an American hero...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Pauline L
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 11:13 AM

For additional interesting discussion of this topic, see this link.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 11:27 AM

"...she was just too tired to put up with any stupid shit..."


And thus, the impetus for is change achieved. Salute the lady.

"The things we never challenge are the things that never change"
                               ---James Keelaghan, Turn of the Wheel


Never Gonna Stop This Train.


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 11:30 AM

Damned misplaced intransitive verb!


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 02:13 PM

Haven't found these lyrics anywhere on Mudcat (or anywhere on the Web at all, in fact) so I might as well post `em here.
One of my favourites, I like Keelo's songwriting a LOT. Big ideas and big words.


Turn of the Wheel
(1994 James Keelaghan)

I don't know but I've been told
This world was shaped from unformed matter
Back when Chaos reigned supreme
You and I were widely scattered
Something coalesced from the universe's void
Nothing was created; no, nothing was destroyed
All you see around you is just something else reformed
This steady state of matter is said to be the norm

But wait for a turn of the wheel
Wait for a turn of the wheel

Reform and revolution are almost the same
The heart aflame, the vital spark
The engine that propels the state
The voice that speaks out of the dark
Martin Luther wrote a paper; he nailed it to the door
Rosa Parks took her seat; she couldn't take it any more
Galileo set the sun at the centre of the stage
The things we never challenge are the things that never change

But wait for a turn of the wheel
Wait for a turn of the wheel

Now I know it seems crazy, it's a paradox
Change is constant; never ending
Sometimes effects outweigh the cause
The jury's out and the judgement's pending
Maybe things are different from what you though you saw
It isn't quite an axiom; it isn't quite a law
Fortunes often rise and often they fall
Somehow there will be a balance in it all

But wait for a turn of the wheel
Wait for a turn of the wheel


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Kaleea
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 03:24 AM

No matter where I go, the religions of the region usually practice the "Golden Rule" or something very similar. How often we rush to judge others by their looks or whatever, & put Gods children into categories for the sake of rationalizing our prejudice. We did all that singing & protesting & free loving etc. for peace, but our world is more filled with wars than ever. wwhhaaaaassssssssssuupppp?   

   all we are saying, is . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 03:01 PM

At Irish trad. jams (seshoons) I always ask for Planxty Irwin(Erwin?). I feel that its loveliness increases the amount of peace and tolerance in the world. And I'm raising a crop of grandchildren (in cooperation with my kids, of course) who see other people as beings to be celebrated, enjoyed, loved. The 4yr. old I sat with last night, (we had to run to the groc. store while I was there) announced to me that, "Granny Tanny, we are so good. We are not yelling or running or pulling stuff off shelves. We are not hitting anyone." He was absolutely right. He knows what's important. And gorgeous? And smart? WWOOWW!!!!   Sorry, got carried away.   Tw


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: Boab
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 04:35 AM

You were right with "Irwin" Grandma [***]---and it sounds like a happy, lovin' Family.
[From GREAT-GRANDAD..braggin' again--]


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Subject: RE: BS: Lest We Forget: History to Remember
From: GUEST,Finn_Mac_Cuhal
Date: 11 Dec 04 - 10:11 AM

Bobert,

I live in Alabama and while no doubt some of the nay voters on the Alabama constitutional amendment did so for reasons of bigotry, the main impetus for rejecting the measure was concern that the language changes in the amendment would allow judges in Alabama to direct tax increases for funding education. To be certain, education in Alabama is underfunded and I have supported several tax increases to better fund Alabama's schools despite my being a political conservative. However, taxes should be levied by a direct vote of the electorate or by representatives elected by the people. Judges should interpret the law...not make it. Governor Riley intends to raise the amendment again but with language to reassure those voters concerned about judicially-based tax increases. I expect the measure to pass when that happens. I hope so, at any rate. If not, I will have to agree with your assessment.

Great board and thanks for listing the lyrics to this song. Keelaghan is a modern treasure.


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