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Subject: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: Paco Rabanne Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:45 AM I know it's a repeat, but worth a look. Lots of NSP and travelling through Northumbria. Sting's in it as well, whoaar!!! Starts at 7.15pm |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: folkwaller Date: 10 Oct 06 - 04:22 AM That's for me. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: Hand-Pulled Boy Date: 10 Oct 06 - 05:32 AM I wonder if my video recorder still works? |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: Skipjack K8 Date: 10 Oct 06 - 06:01 AM I'll have me tummy wipes ready, Edward. This message comes to you in black. The new black. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: Gedpipes Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:10 AM Shes not in the Woolpack tonight is she? |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: GUEST Date: 10 Oct 06 - 12:06 PM Is her sister Tess with her? |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: Bassic Date: 10 Oct 06 - 01:54 PM Refresh. On in 20 minutes. Missed it first time round. Will then head for the Woolpack for some more Northumbrian fellowship :-) |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: greg stephens Date: 10 Oct 06 - 02:07 PM Turn over to Channel 5 at the end of the Archers. David and Ruth row not too convincing...the old Relationships Editor is a little heavy handed. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: greg stephens Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:04 PM What a difference in approach from the Folk Britannia series. Those programmes eemed to think that folk music was something to play on stage at concerts, just like classical and rock. The Tickell thing had a very good stab at trying to see how the music sits in a community context: possibly why it's called "folk music"(just a thought). |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:09 PM I wish they would play this in Canada. She is awesome. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: fat B****rd Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:22 PM Bollocks !!! Forgot all about it.I saw it first time around, mind. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: GUEST Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:31 PM Watched it and liked it very much. Small niggle. Why do folk musicians have to pretend to that reading the music is not quite the real thing. Nobody for generations has learned the great treasury of tunes on grandpappy's knee. Notation is a fabulous thing. Reading it is an essential skill, not an embarrasment that puts you at arm's length from authenticity. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: Black Diamond Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:34 PM wonderful programme - she's a natural - jealous jealous jealous!! Greg - definately agree - far better approach than Folk Brittania see that young group towards the end of the programme - wow the future of folk music must surely be safe in their hands, see that whistle player go!! Black Diamond |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: The Borchester Echo Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:40 PM What Kathryn Tickell said was that she taught tunes by ear and gave her students the notation to take away with them. As someone who relies totally on notation, I find it a handicap and wish I wasn't too scared to learn by ear. For one thing, ear learning is quicker, as she pointed out. When I have beeen brave enough to do it, the tune has gone straight into my head then directly to fingers, bypassing the need to visualise the notation or even having to dive surreptitiously into a manuscript notebook to remind myself of the first few bars. I'm convinced her way is better though I don't practice what I preach very much. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: The Borchester Echo Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:47 PM Oh, and could some kind Mud Elf please correct the spelling of her name in the title? |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: Paul from Hull Date: 10 Oct 06 - 04:11 PM Missed it 1st time around, so glad to catch it tonight. Good prog. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: GUEST,Hootenanny Date: 10 Oct 06 - 04:33 PM To Guest above. I cannot agree that reading music is an essential skill for the genre that we generally call "Folk". I believe that it is the ear learning process that makes this music as interesting and exciting as it is. Often at sessions you will get a newcomer to the music coming along who may be very accomplished at reading music, ask them if they would like to play a number and they will often play something they have learned from a book. Nothing wrong with that but until they have done a fair amount of playing with others and without the fly specs to follow, their playing is often very stilted. Not because they cannot play but because it is impossible to write down the way the music is played, you can only do so much on paper. Give me ear musicians any day. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: greg stephens Date: 10 Oct 06 - 05:31 PM I do a lot of tune teaching and workshops on fiddle tunes etc, at festivals with the Boat Band ans so on. We do the same as Kathryn said, teach the tunes slowly by ear, and dish out sheet music at the end of the day if anyone wants an aide-memoire. If you hand out sheet music at the start, the good readers read it straight off, and then always seem to be saying "Next?". I would much sooner spend a long time getting it people to learn it carefully by ear and finger and brain, not by readinfg. Then it sticks, and it is a nice collective experience for everyone. |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: GUEST,Ralphie Date: 10 Oct 06 - 05:48 PM Greg. Couldn't agree more (and a jolly good prog as well!) Regards Ralphie. (Channel 5, More please.....Mind you, don't think I could cope with 45 minutes of the Boat Band!!) |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: GUEST,Ralphie Date: 10 Oct 06 - 05:50 PM Greg.... It was a joke! R |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: eddie1 Date: 11 Oct 06 - 04:33 AM Great programme. If I were only 30 years, no, make that 40 years younger, A bit better looking, a lot slimmer and a much more accomplished singer/guitarist, she would have to beat me off with a stick! On the notation v playing by ear front, a schoolteacher from way back then, played cello in a theatre orchestra. She told us that, on a long run, the music went from the paper to the fingers without really going through the brain. There was a long passage for the two cellos and her partner played a severely bum note. Afterwards, the offendee explained that the note crawled along the page and flew off - it was a fly! Eddie |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: greg stephens Date: 11 Oct 06 - 07:33 AM Ralphie Well 45 minutes might be stretching it a bit, but BBC2 did a 30 minute spectacular on the Boat Band, and that seemed to me to maintain interest up to the end. Mind you, I can watch myself for hours, I think I'm gorgeous, but it might not suit everyone! |
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Subject: RE: Katherine Tickell - Channel 5 tonight From: The Borchester Echo Date: 11 Oct 06 - 07:40 AM Hey Greg, is that TOTP2 with (or better still instead of) Seth Lakeman with smoke, lasers, bells and whistles and will I now have to call you sir or something? |
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