BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Alice
Date: 03 May 10 - 10:58 PM

Bobert says "I donno if this is a man/womenz thing 'er not... Just reality 'round here..."

Be assured it is not a man/woman thing.
It is actually annoying that you keep assuming all women behave like your wife behaves. Stop making generalities about both men and women.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bobert
Date: 03 May 10 - 10:51 PM

Gosh, Sorch... I hate to say stuff to the P-Vine about ADD... She is in such denial about it that it always gets the same heated response, "Well, if I din't have to _________________ then I'd be able to do _________________..."

I mean, we're all busy... God knows I am... I know I have more on me than she does on her but here we have it... It is some kinda ADD???

Either that or she is trying to drive me crazy??? I donno which one???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 May 10 - 09:12 PM

NOW he says ADD.....for real or just Boberts take on it?

If it's for real, then 'reminders' might help. Otherwise, I give up.

I now think my mother had ADD for real. She always got distracted and seldom actually finished anything.

By reminders, I mean more or less visual things....tags on tools, etc....

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bobert
Date: 03 May 10 - 08:52 PM

Nah, Bill... This ain't a memory problem as much as ADD... She doesn't quite finish jobs before bein' led by some gardenin' spirit to the next project, which BTW, doesn't quite get finished before... I follow behind and put the finishing touches on her projects...

We're just different in that way... I don't consider a project "leavable" until everything that was involved with it is put away or thrown out...

I donno if this is a man/womenz thing 'er not... Just reality 'round here...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bill D
Date: 03 May 10 - 08:46 PM

"Next, ask yourself why the P-vine is forgetting stuff. Does she have too many things to do? Does she have to move on to job no. 2 before she can finish job no. 1?


crazy little woman is onto it... You have said almost NOTHING about what P-vine has said about her problem if & when you two have 'discussed' it. Does she have a real problem with memory? or does she think it is actually up to YOU to cleanup... that makes 2 entirely different problems.
If she has a problem remembering to clean up her stuff, is there any way to have a reminder system? A card hanging on the door knob saying "Bring in the tools"..or whatever.

If she doesn't FEEL responsible, you have very few options.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 May 10 - 06:22 PM

Yes, Bobert, and I hadn't realized you had 5-6 ACRES to mow. Far cry from a suburban lawn.

When there is that much acerage, you can't just drop things....GOOD way to lose them all. Oh, now did I put the trowel on the back 9, or was that the cultivator?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 03 May 10 - 03:15 PM

mebbe just refuse to mow the lawn?

or perhaps P-Vine should be required to pay for or do the repairs on damaged tractor. That is what I would do with my kids. Don't know if this works on partners though.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: gnu
Date: 03 May 10 - 03:08 PM

Uncle Roy was mowing a wet lawn, slipped on an incline and came up less a big toe. When he got back from the hospital and got sat down in front of the TV, Aunt Therese let the cat in and it sat right in front of Uncle Roy, dropped his toe on the floor and meowed proudly.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Alice
Date: 03 May 10 - 12:27 PM

"Twice as many people are treated for lawn mower injuries as gunshot wounds each year. Cuts and bruises from flung objects are the most common mowing related injury....CLICK

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 03 May 10 - 11:21 AM

Perhaps, instead of a nasal spray for men to be more sensitive, and grow 'moobs', here's a little ditty for women to hum around the house,

Ditty for Mudcat Womenz

Genie, and Ebbers should be able to hum this, with great enjoyment!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bobert
Date: 03 May 10 - 11:01 AM

Sorry, Sorch... We are way too far down the path to turn back... But it's no so much plants that don't need waterin' as much as gettin' newly planted stuff established... That is the tricky part... Once most plants get established the demands for additional watering goes way down...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: GUEST,crazy little woman
Date: 03 May 10 - 10:52 AM

I guess my post above involved too much actual caring and thinking.

So long, bobert.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bobert
Date: 03 May 10 - 08:41 AM

Is this a trick question, Sins???

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 May 10 - 08:37 AM

Question for Bobert:
Which would you rather have- a cluttered lawn and P-Vine in the kitchen or a perfectly groomed lawn with everything in its place and an empty house?
I know the answer. Now smile and be grateful every time you bend a blade. Life is good.
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 May 10 - 08:30 AM

Wasn't this covered in My Fair Lady???? "Why can't a woman be more like a man?"

She can't. Nor does she want to. End of discussion.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bobert
Date: 03 May 10 - 07:29 AM

I'm not too sure who has snuck into our little community hare with whatever it is that has infected so amny people's thinkin' but, John, we're goin' to have to repectfully, mind you, to pee in this little plastic cup...

I mean, I have enough difficulty thinkin' at all and now ya say that I oughtta spray some hormones up my nose so that I can think like a womenz???

That, mah friend, ain't gonna happen... I see the way they are, and God knows I oves each and every one of them but...

...womenz have major wiring problems... You remember the '57 Ford Sunliner with the hardtop that electriclly went into the truck to turn it into a convertibale... Well, the schematic on the wiring for the top looks like a road map of the United States... Now ya compare that to the wirin' in yer average womanz and quess what??? That Ford schematic ain't squat???

That's what I mean... They is nuts... No offense to no Mudwomenz 'cause I loves ya' all... But ya'll is friggin looney-tunes... Hey, that ain't meant to be insultin' or disssin' or bad... It's just facts as I see 'um...

No, John... Here's a better idea... A new 'n improved nasal spray that gives the womans the peace of mind to think like men!!! Then they gonna pick up the tools and hoses when they are done... They will also understand the pure joy of men stuff, you know, like peein' outside, watching cars go round and round, scratchin', belchin' and paiting falmes on ther side of yer Craftsman lawn mower... You, know, all the important stuff...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 03 May 10 - 03:32 AM

Bobert -

It has been obvious for some time, and even you have admitted, that you have a definite problem with "understanding how wimmunz think."

Although a hard-core case such as you may be beyond help, there is the remote possibility that the newly discovered Nasal Spray treatment that permits men to (briefly) "think more like a woman" might offer some hope of at least slightly assisting your adaptation to more friendly association with those of the other persuasion.

In its present form (produced only for testing purposes) the "results" are reportedly persistent only briefly with no observed after-effects. The researchers did NOT COMMENT on the principal ingredient, Oxycontin, being a hormone primarily active in stimulating lactation, so excessive use might get you a nice pair of MOOBS - or not.

But it might be worth a try(?).

John

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 May 10 - 10:33 PM

Actually, Bobert, Tell her to shut the fuck up, and mow it herself!.For Pete's sake, all she has to do is sit on the Damn thing and steer it!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: GUEST,crazy little woman
Date: 02 May 10 - 09:35 PM

First of all, Bobert, absolutely do not 'impound' the stuff and set yourself up as an authority cum jail garden. That would be very bad for the relationship between you two. You are both adults and need to respect one another as equals.

Next, ask yourself why the P-vine is forgetting stuff. Does she have too many things to do? Does she have to move on to job no. 2 before she can finish job no. 1?

With small tools, is it a visibility issue? Can you spray paint the handles so they don't disappear when set down, etc? Can you supply a handy system for keeping track of everything and getting it organized? Some kind of cart?

Saints forfend, is she getting forgetful because her health is weakening? Do you need to talk to the doctor about this? Think it over.
=========
Sorcha, Bobert lives in West Virginia. The problem isn't watering stuff. The problem is hacking back the jungle that thrives in the warm, wet climate.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 May 10 - 08:48 PM

Xeriscape Bobert. Stuff that doesn't need a lot of water....

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: kendall
Date: 02 May 10 - 08:33 PM

You mean I'm supposed to pick stuff up before I mow? Maybe that's what is causing those awful noises. I ran over something today and it made a hell of a racket. I didn't see it until pieces of it came flying out the discharge chute. It used to be a limb off a willow tree.
That 18 hp engine really does a job on shit that has no business being on the lawn.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bobert
Date: 02 May 10 - 08:19 PM

I like the idea of just having paths and I guess that one day thet may become a reality... But we are gardening on approx 5-6 acres and there's only but so much plant material and time to mulch and water and keep everyone happy... That means there's gonna be alot of grass to be mowed...

Mowing around stuff other than hoses??? I'll give that some consideration... Of course, I know it's gonna start a danged argument where she is going to threaten to quit washing clothes, 'er somethin' that she does... And then I'll say, "Fine, I'll quit working and making the money to buy all these plants" and then she'll say... And I'll say... And next thing ya' know I'm sleepin' on the couch...

I'm a wuss...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 May 10 - 07:39 PM

Busy weekend.
Gnu! Cellar!

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Rowan
Date: 02 May 10 - 07:07 PM

What's all this nonsense about mowing lawns?

Expand the beds and put in paths, without grass, between them.

Both your problems are then solved; she gets an even bigger garden and you sell the mower with relaxation-aids bought from the proceeds.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 02 May 10 - 02:47 PM

Bobert, I suggest you start mowing around the items she has forgotten, creating a crazy quilt of high grass and low grass around your house.

That will motivate her like anybody's business, I'd wager.

A hose now, that's a different story. You should check that the hoses are wound up even before getting the mower out of the shed.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Alice
Date: 02 May 10 - 12:47 PM

Michelle makes a good point. Do you even tell your wife you are going to mow the lawn, or are you complaining that she hasn't read your mind? Tell her you are mowing, so she has time to put things away.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 May 10 - 12:39 PM

My husband says you should say, "Honey, I'm getting ready to go mow, how about you come give me a hand picking up stuff?" Make it a together kinda deal...an invitation of sorts.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bert
Date: 02 May 10 - 11:57 AM

I still think mowing around it will work. Make a joke out of it.

"Well you wouldn't want me to run them over would you?"

Or You could throw away the worst one and buy her a new one. Present it to her and say "Sorry I ran over your old one."

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: GUEST,Bizibod
Date: 02 May 10 - 11:43 AM

How 'bout you tell her when you're going to do it, and give her a head start to clear the way ? Sounds reasonable....

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 May 10 - 11:17 AM

OR.....all the crap in the yard...put it on the toilet seat!!!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bobert
Date: 02 May 10 - 10:16 AM

I kinda like the righteosly drunk part, GfS... Of course it doesn't solve much and puts a mighty hurt in this poor ol boney hillbilly's head but, hey, I got experience... No, that was not boney head, or bonehead, fir that matter... Just that I ain't all that beefed up...

But nevermind the beef fir now... Yeah, Michelle, I do walk around and try to find the stuff... It's like an Easter Egg Hunt... But with as much mowing as I have to do, plus the P-Vine knowing no boundarys for gardening, it ain't all that easy...

And fir the record, I put all my stuff away... Did so even before being sent off to military school where I recieved a PhD in putting stuff away... The P-Vine, however... We ain't goin' there...

This is the part that I don't understand... She loves the gardens when everything is put away and freshly mowed... And she loves giving tours of the gardens and her gardening mentor once said that the garden is supposed to be peaceful and it can't be that way with tools everywhere... She unnerstands this in her head... It's just gettin' that head stuff into her tummy where she actually changes but...

...alas, if there is one bit of wisdom I have picked up in my life it's this: People don't change, they get more so...

Well, we have a tour coming at 3 today and another tomorrow so I had better get my pickin'-up clothes on and get out there...

B;~(

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 May 10 - 01:54 AM

Michele is right, Beaubear. Life is short at the best of times.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 May 10 - 01:16 AM

Bobert: "Okay, seems that every time I gotta go out and mow the grass I find myself gettin' off and on the tractor about 5 zillion times to pick up stuff that the P-Vine has left where she last used it... Immean, like garden tools and hoses and plastic planters and chairs and, and..."

Okay, okay okay!..You're making this a lot harder than it should be!
Get righteously drunk, and FALL off the tractor, it will save you have the trouble! ....and while your down there grab something next you you, toss it, and get back on the damn bronco!...till you fall off again!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 May 10 - 12:12 AM

Bobert....Sweet Bobert...Gonna Get Hiself Killed Bobert.....

   I have to agree with Stilly on this one. Take a walk around the yard and just pick stuff up before you ever even fire up your tractor. It might be a pain in the butt....BUT.....what does P-Vine pick up of yours? Laundry? Dishes? etc.?
    If Mr. Pete ever impounded my stuff like that, I'd be PISSED and start hiding HIS stuff! And he'd get mad and you can see what the cycle would be.

Be sweet to your girl. She loves you, ya know?

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Amos
Date: 02 May 10 - 12:02 AM

Lock 'em up, in the garden shed, and stand tall, Bobez. What have you got to lose???


A

(DON'T answer that....)

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 May 10 - 11:01 PM

I've looked it up. Dog and cat droppings are just fine in the compost. It all breaks down. That's an old wives tale that you can't put it in.

Bobert, does P-vine read Mudcat? Has your keyboard become inexplicably tough to use (or find) lately?

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 May 10 - 10:05 PM

I wouldn't either Bobert. It does work. Esp if you charge her say, a buck per item.

BTW, dog poo does NOTHING for the compost pile. Nothing. Not like other manure. Look it up if you don't belive me.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bobert
Date: 01 May 10 - 09:51 PM

Ya' know, A-gin... That's what makes life worth it... You know, pissin' off the womenz and livin' (or not) to enjoy the memories... I mean, like my poor old 4 time divorced bother says, "No guts, no glory"... I mean, I'm serious;u rethinkin' my impound idea in favor of mowin' shovels, pots with purdy azaleas in 'um, hoses and, well, everything...

(Then Boberdz woke up...)

(Ypou do that dumbass stuff, Boberds, an' yer gonna be in a load of trouble... I mean, you think you got troubles now???? Think about it, Big Guy!!!)

Okay, I ain't gonna run over all that stuff... That was just me talkin' big... You know, like I am king of the hill... Sheet fire, if the P-Vine came i here right now and read this she'd, ahhhhhhh, put a buttwhup on me so bad that I'd have to wear a paper bag over my head fir a a year...

But I ain't quite given up on the "impound" idea...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Amergin
Date: 01 May 10 - 09:27 PM

You know, bobert, I think you have a point....I still have the scars from all the times I've pissed off the womenfolk.....but I still do it....maybe some part of me likes the attention.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bobert
Date: 01 May 10 - 08:08 PM

I donno about these ideas... Throwing the stuff at her is definately not one to be considered... My arm ain't what it used to be and it might come back alot harder than I threw it...

As fir the female mind??? Ahhhhh, as per usual, I am clueless but curious...

As fir payin' some kid to round the stuff up??? Hey, this is Page Co., Va. and most kids are meth-heads and the one's that ain't won't leave when the job is done...

No, I was thinking that maybe Plan B is the eway to go... There's where I put on a helmit, gloves, body armor and just run everything over, bend the blades, take 'um off and leave 'um on the front seat of her car with a note "You owe me 3 blades"....

Whaddayathink about that one ??? I mean hoses shreaded and pieces of garden tools all over her gardens and her prized watering can lookin' like somethin' from Ground Zero???

(Take a chill pill, Boberdz, and just go lie down in some quiet spot fir about 10 hours...)

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 May 10 - 06:18 PM

My Rog has a scab on his arm that looks like he got in a fight with a junkyard dog. In truth it was a rosebush by the outdoor water faucet, planted a long time before we bought the place. It is a beautiful plant, but quite wicked if one is not careful!

Bobert, the other alternative is to hire a kid to come clean up the stuff then give her the bill or somesuch.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: gnu
Date: 01 May 10 - 06:12 PM

Hmmm... youse all enjoying the spring weather? I figured I could get a rise er even a roll with that fly. Apparently, youse have lives.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: gnu
Date: 01 May 10 - 04:44 PM

SINS!!!... "I will never understand male logic." Whaaaa? Finishing any job means putting the lid down, no? >;-)

Back when I was a serf, whatshername used to clutter the yards and the walkway and the deck with all manner of ornaments and potted plants. The "Cat Crossing" sign was the last straw. I let the lawns grow and when she asked when I was gonna mow I replied, "Not my job anymore. And, BTW, I have on my To-Do list NOT to replace the potted plants on the deck stairways the next time I knock them over carrying sommat up or down the stairs." Plants on the stairs? That is "womenz" stuff.

I will never understand female logic.

PS... the rose bushes next to the front door... salt. Sum'bitches use to bite me and whatever I was carrying like a junkyard dog. Rose bushes next to a door? Womenz!

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Maryrrf
Date: 01 May 10 - 04:38 PM

I have to admit that I sympathize with Bobert. Yes he should check around before he mows, but it isn't fair for him to deal with tools and such strewn around helter skelter. Garden tools shouldn't be left out - all kinds of accidents could happen, like Bobert could step on the end of a cultivator and the handle could hit him in the face. And he claims that in the house, he doesn't leave his stuff lying around, so fair is fair. I think the plan is good, but it might upset P-Vine and she may get angry with Bobert. The passive/aggressive method would be to pick the stuff up and hide it. Then when she asks "Do you know where that cultivator/hoe/garden hose/watering bucket or whatever is?". Just say "Um....I think I remember picking it up but I just can't remember where I put it." Conveniently "forget" where you put it and when you think it's time, then remember.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Amergin
Date: 01 May 10 - 04:33 PM

Just throw them at her....that'll be sure to get her attention....

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Bert
Date: 01 May 10 - 04:28 PM

Mow around the stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 May 10 - 01:32 PM

See? Alice agrees! Dog poop doesn't need to go on the kitchen, it can go to the compost.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Alice
Date: 01 May 10 - 01:13 PM

You should know it is standard safety procedure for you to walk the area and pick up loose things BEFORE you mow!! Whether they are hers or not, you are risking life and limb if you mow before you've done a sweep of the area to gather stick and other things, that could be projectiles if hit. Shame on you. (Whatever you pick up that is hers, pile it on the kitchen table for her to deal with).

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Amergin
Date: 01 May 10 - 01:08 PM

When I read the title I was thinking Bobert wondered if allowing women on Mudcat was a good idea....So I opened the thread to see a good show....

Subject: RE: BS: Mudwomenz... Is this a good idea???
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 May 10 - 01:02 PM

Here at my house I "police the grounds" before I mow. This saves this kind of disruption of the mowing when it finally starts. Okay, the dogs see me coming and will leave a steaming pile in front of the mower, not on the already-mowed bit, but that doesn't bend blades if I hit it. I get the tools I might have left, the dog chews, balls, sticks, whatever, during that first cursory walk-through and then can mow safely.

SRS