BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 26 Jun 11 - 06:56 AM

Mmmmm!!! Nigella!

The woman who made whisking pornographic (think about it).

Gordon Ramsey, though, comes across as a total prat - but then he probably has to be to be on telly.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Penny S.
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 05:43 PM

I have read a story about him which shows another side. A writer lived quite close at one time, and his son made some mince pies and left them on Ramsay's doorstep as a gift, with a note. The plate was returned, with praise for the pies as the best he had tasted. Nice.

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jun 11 - 10:14 PM

What a delight to once again be reminded that Gordon Ramsay is a total prat! ;-)

The spanking video, on the other hand, was a deadly bore. (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Mar 11 - 01:25 PM

Chongo is eager to be served by Nigella too. Very eager in fact. Nigella is definitely on the front burner as far as Chongo is concerned, whereas Gordon Ramsay is either on the back burner or perhaps the side board.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 24 Mar 11 - 01:21 PM

I think he has done the world a service by exposing how filthy some restaurants are and how rotten some of the food is that they serve. I don't know how they make it through health inspections. And he does seem to usually suggest fresh, pretty simple food. He has an unattractive personality to be sure.

I have wondered, as people look for suitable jobs for ex-prisoners, who have an awful time on the job market, if they could not be formed into cleaning teams and go out and clean restaurants at night. Surely the cooking staff would be too exhausted to clean properly in many cases. They could go in with industrial strength steamers, fresh energy etc. mg

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 24 Mar 11 - 11:37 AM

My parents have total control of the remote when I visit so it's not of case of whether I want to watch it or not really. A favourite of mine was Keith Ffloyd, my idea of cooking is with a glass of red wine in one hand and stirring something until it's cooked in the other, voila!

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 24 Mar 11 - 10:16 AM

All these chefs are okay, but honestly....

breathes there a soul so dull that wouldn't rather have a decent cod and chips at george's chip shop in Belper. Salt, Vinegar, mushy peas, couple of slices of bread and butter to make butties, pot of strong tea. Some posh folk go for the tartare sauce, but i reckon that's just being fancy.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 24 Mar 11 - 06:37 AM

Ok, two points;

1. The man is a prat, yes. If you are vegetarian, I would expect a chef to respect that. Mind you, I read above that he was just handing things out and people were eating them. if you have any eating taboos, best to check before accepting freebies on the street eh?

2. I have eaten at his restaurant in The Hilton, Dubai Creek and it was one of the best culinary experiences I have had. (I love my food, and have been lucky enough in life to have eaten at many of the top rated places in the world.)

So lets separate the prat from the art. I use some of his recipes for dinner parties and the ones I use seem to work, and work well. (Used his method / stuffing for the goose last Christmas and it was wonderful. Other than substituting the flour (a celiac in the family) I followed his instructions to the letter and glad I did.

On the other hand, I watch Nigella Lawson whenever there is a series on, but only recently found out she was a cook. Sorry, not concentrating on what she is doing, rather how she (and the camera) is doing it.......

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 24 Mar 11 - 03:49 AM

the thread title is redundant... Gordon Ramsay and total prat are interchangeable terms.

Give me Nigela any day. How the hell does she manage to look so good after all the eating she apparently does on her shoes. Must be a vomitorium between scenes.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Mar 11 - 01:29 AM

He has not yet served Chongo a meal. When he does, he may get a surprise.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 02:27 PM

This is the Gordon Ramsey who throws customers out of restaurants because he is throwing temper tantrums with the kitchen staff???????

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Becca72
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 09:26 AM

That's for sure! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 09:04 AM

Becca,

So the guy's eyes were bigger than his belly, lol! That explains it.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Becca72
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 08:58 AM

Patsy,

I have seen the show in question. Gordon Ramsey did NOT trick anyone into eating anything. The guy grabbed a free sample and did not ask what was in it before he consumed it. If you have dietary requirements/restrictions it is up to you to make sure they are followed, not some guy on the street handing out free pizza.

As for the show, I still watch regularly and fully enjoy it.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 08:12 AM

Give me a Hairy Biker anyday. They do let you know what's gone into the dish and if you don't like some of what is on offer then you don't have it or don't cook it. There standard might not be quite as high as Gordon Ramsey in cheffing terms but I can't imagine them being dishonest about added ingredients either. Most of the dishes originate from family kitchens and with a few recipes of the bikers thrown in it makes a good programme and without one bitchy comment throughout.

Gordon Ramsey is definitely past his entertainment value now. The bad language was just sensationalism at the time and it really is past it's sell-by-date now. From the past threads (luckily I didn't see the programme) but tricking someone into eating something that they normally wouldn't is not clever. An ex did the same thing with venison sausages and he knew that I had a thing about not eating it but he was so full of himself that he had to prove a point, manipulative bully.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Wesley S
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 04:14 PM

Didn't Ramsey just open up a place in Heathrow Airport?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 04:10 PM

I wonder....if all the old people and vegetarians and other types of people who don't meet Gordon Ramsay's standards of perfection were exterminated...would he then be happy?

My guess is, "no". I bet he'd find someone else to look down on right quick.

I bet that getting old will come as a real shock to him. ;-) Goodness knows, it has been a bit of a shock to me and most of my contemporaries, I can tell you. Everyone feels about 25 inside their mind for their whole life, I think, but their body does not cooperate with that notion. We are youngsters trapped in aging bodies, and not entirely pleased about the matter. This will also happen to Gordon Ramsay unless, as you say, something else happens to him first.

I remember some foolish lad I knew in my 20's who was always making fun of the "old farts" in the neighborhood, as he called them. He IS one now. Poetic justice, ain't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Penny S.
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 03:57 PM

He has been scathing about veggies in other programmes, too. He has also been as rude about older customers. I saw him being extremely rude about the clientele of a restaurant in Sussex which had regulars from what he called the "blue rinse brigade". He was determined to make the place unattractive to them for their weekly meal out.

(It was another of the places where you wonder whay they have asked him in and then NOT checked the hygiene practices in the kitchen before he arrived.) I haven't watched him since.

Silly of him going on about the old though. He may never end up as a veggie, but he's sure going to be old some day, unless something worse happens first.

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 12:35 PM

Damn right.

And it would upset pigs also. That makes for 4 angry special interest groups all on account of one ingredient.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 11:23 AM

Passing out pizza with ham in it without telling people - it wasn't just vegetarians he was liable to risk upsetting, but Jews and Muslims. A bit inadvisable to do that really...

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Mar 08 - 10:03 AM

GR don't need publicity. Its a top show.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 11:17 PM

It's really quite odd that a vegetarian would NOT check before tasting. Specially in the case of pizza, for gosh sakes! I mean, it's downright strange. People who are worried about whether things might contain meat always ask, in my experience.

Why on earth would anyone automatically assume that a free sample of pizza was vegetarian if they had not already been told it was vegetarian?

Seems to me that we might be missing part of the story.

Vegetarians are used to the fact that the majority of prepared food around them in western society is not so likely to be vegetarian, and they do ask.

Maybe the entire thing was a setup so that Gordon Ramsay could get some controversial publicity and a few laughs on his show... ;-) Consider that possibility.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,James H
Date: 10 Mar 08 - 01:54 PM

I've seen the programme in question. Gordon Ramsay offered free pizza to passers by. He did not make any claims about it being vegetarian or otherwise. Somebody tried some first and then found out it had ham in it afterwards. Gordon found this extremely funny, and made a big fuss about the situation. That maybe a bit insensitive but he hadn't tricked the guy into eating it. Really, it was the vegetarian's fault, for not checking whether the free sample was vegetarian or not before tucking in.

Not quite the same as Little Hawk's dog shit analogy because I wouldn't expect food to have dog shit in it since nobody that I know of considers that to be a normal food stuff, so i wou,ldn't expect to have to ask whether a free sample contained any. Whereas plenty of people do eat meat as a matter of course so why should a vegetarian assume that something was vegetarian without checking?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 07:45 PM

It IS a nasty, boorish thing to do. It indicates that Gordon Ramsay has no respect for other people if they're different from him, but I doubt he would enjoy being mocked in a similar fashion if he'd eaten a sandwich, for instance, with some dog shit concealed in it.

It would be interesting to see his reaction. I bet he would not be even slightly amused.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Thompson
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 05:33 PM

I think it's relevant. Ramsay (allegedly) mocked a vegetarian for being fooled into eating ham.

It just seems like a nasty, boorish thing to do.

But since the vegetarian's stance comes from *ethical principles* rather than *religious dictates*, it seems to me that people are a lot more willing to side with Ramsay - in what strikes me as nasty bullying.

(As opposed to the nice kind, of course.)

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 01:28 PM

You wouldn't know any different if you ate a nice fresh meat loaf that I had cleverly concealed some dog shit in, either. It would not kill you.

But how would you feel afterward when I told you about it? People whose religious beliefs preclude eating pork will get very upset, and sometimes feel quite ill, if they discover that they inadvertently ate something with pork in it. That's understandable. You would feel the same if you had grown up believing it's not good for you to eat pork.

Is this relevant to the discussion? I ask, because I have not read this entire thread. If it is not relevant, then please disregard it.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Phil
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 10:23 AM

If you did not tell the religious, the Jews and the Muslims that they had eaten the "wrong" food, would they know any different, NO.

Phil*

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Thompson
Date: 09 Mar 08 - 05:20 AM

Interesting. It's regarded as ok by many of the posters here for Ramsay to mock someone for his *principles*.

I wonder would people feel the same glee if he did the same with *religious* dietary principles - if he fed a Jew pork or a Muslim non-Halal food, then sniggered and mocked and told the chef he'd "converted" the person.

For our American friends, a prat is, of course, the same as a gobshite. Clear now?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 05:39 PM

I like Gordon Ramsay. I'm a fan. just in case my slightly obtuse method of expressing myself has not conveyed that - I should like it to be noted.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Phil
Date: 21 Feb 08 - 05:39 AM

Gordon just tells it as it is, would you prefer to be deaf than hear Gordon swear. I think not.

Phil*

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 12:58 PM

I hope you all realise that this incident occurred 3 years ago...

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: goatfell
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 11:57 AM

anyone who swears as much as him is just an ignorant idiot, because you can get you view across without swearing

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 05:13 AM

welll, now that you've asked nicely - yes I was kidding about egg and chips.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,foodlover
Date: 20 Feb 08 - 04:34 AM

So, I paid for some typing lessons and learned how to use the shift key. I also took some etiquette lessons and learned how to express myself without using profanity. I thank everyone for helping me achieve these levels of self-enlightenment. Now can we get past the cheap, nitpicking observations and address what i was really talking about?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 12:09 PM

Is there any way we could work Woody Allen into this thread? Give it a bit more humour?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 07:52 AM

When they had pogroms against the Jews in Russia and Central Europe, they use to stick sausages in the mouths of dead Jews in order to mock their beliefs. Now, I would not be so crass as to make a direct comparison between what they did and what Gordon Ramsey did, but the parallels are there. More than a prat. A totaly obnoxious one.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 05:38 AM

fucking unique on the internet mate, we are.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Stu
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 04:57 AM

"what the fuck have you accomplished in your shitty little lives"

Most of us have learned to write well enough to use capital letters.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,foodlover
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 04:35 AM

well aren't you special

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 04:13 AM

'what the fuck have you accomplished in your shitty little lives?'

Most of us on this site get through life without expressing ourself in those terms, and given the occasional provocation - that's quite an achievement.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,foodlover
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 03:56 AM

so has he personally ever offended you? have you actually ever eaten his food? what the fuck do you care? so you poo poo his effort to feed the troops in afghanistan? eggs and chips? are you fucking kidding me? what the fuck have you accomplished in your shitty little lives?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Feb 08 - 10:32 AM

Teribus old man, do Trolls have to actually play Hall of the Mountain King before you recognise one?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Teribus
Date: 17 Feb 08 - 06:01 AM

"The guy ..... is ....... A FUCKING ARSEHOLE and he cannae cook, i mean real proper meals" - (Arran)

Well then Tom, I take it that you have actually sampled his cooking then?

I know around 720 very big hungry men who would vehmently disagree with you. They were the guys of 42 Commando that Gordon Ramsey personally cooked Christmas dinner for in Camp Bastion Afghanistan, and it was by no means - "a shitty wee meal that two mouthfuls and it's a way" What is more having voluntarily given up his own time at Christmas to do this he paid for the whole thing himself.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Feb 08 - 01:42 PM

Absolutely! I bet he 's never tried making anything hard like egg and chips. Getting the egg and chips both as hot as each other - at the same time.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: goatfell
Date: 16 Feb 08 - 07:51 AM

The guy as far as I care is a to use his words A FUCKING ARSEHOLE and he cannae cook, i mean real proper meals what you get with people like him is a shitty wee meal that two mouthfuls and it's a way and it cost you dear friends £80.

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: GUEST,foodlover
Date: 16 Feb 08 - 06:34 AM

GET OVER IT
the guy obviously knows how to cook and how to rescue a failing restaurant. any manager worth his or her weight in any business can clearly cut through the bullshit and do what needs to be done to accomplish the goal of making the business successful. if it means hurting the feelings of some useless employees that are too thin-skinned to deal with the pressure when the shit really hits the fan than that's the way it has to be. how many of you whiners out there deal with real pressure or just float through the day snacking on chips and going on the internet? hmmm?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Teribus
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 11:38 AM

And if he'd been Welsh, he would have had a leek in the soup.......

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 07:14 AM

If he'd been Irish, he would have discovered the cook had a great grandad in Limerick........

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 05:02 AM

Anybody want to buy my Big Al Whittle CD?

Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay...total prat!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Feb 08 - 04:34 AM

The thing is -he's Scottish. If he'd been English, he would just pay the bill, thank the waiter and piss off. No programme.