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Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)

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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Azizi
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:08 AM

Bruce, he said "security guys" not "gals".

Btw, this is #100.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 12:50 AM

Be still my beating heart . . . .


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 12:02 AM

Security guys in two countries want to feel you up?


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: GUEST,Peace
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 11:27 PM

I complained to the security people last time I went thru the metal detector. (It goes of due to the artificial hip. So one of the guys patted me down and paid extra attention to the hip/top of my tush area. In a loud voice I asked, "Why is it always a GUY? There are three beautiful gals right there--I pointed and smiled--and I get THIS guy handling my tush. What's wrong with this picture?" Got a chuckle from the gals, anyway.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 11:22 PM

Airport security people in two countries want to annoy you?


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Peace
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:44 PM

OK guys. I gotta get this straight. I have a plane ticket that'll get me into Warren County Airport on Friday, July 18 at about 4:00 PM. It's just a short trip into Franklin from there. I knew the festival was being relocated, but why to Ohio?


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Beer
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 09:35 PM

Had me worried until I looked at the calender. To late, I pressed send.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: KenM
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 09:11 PM

Yup....the weekend AFTER next it is.....I guess I'm just anticipating getting "north of that line"......


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 09:08 PM

No. It's the weekend AFTER next, but it's your festival. You oughta know!


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Beer
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 08:50 PM

My God, is it that close already?


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: KenM
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 07:50 PM

Hi, everyone. Amos has just sent me a CD of the Bruce Murdoch interview on CKUT the day before his January 4th concert in Montreal. The songs are great and, clearly, the years have not dulled Bruce's fine sense of humor. The only "sobering" part of the CD is Host Gerry's announcement of the weather that day.....-24 with a windchill in the -30s!!! Yikes!! There are many things I miss about Canada, most notably its social contract with its citizens, but winter weather is not one of them!! I'll be at the AppleMusicFest weekend in Franklin Center next weekend. I hope to see some of you there.

Ken


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: KenM
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 11:07 PM

Thank you. I'm sorry to hear about Gagnier. I can still recall this big heavy set guy with a great voice and wonderful social conscience.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: bobad
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 05:45 PM

Ken, this thread from 2003 http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=63968#1070543 might be of interest, it is where Bruce first shows up, it also mentions Sean Gagnier's passing. It, by the way is what first brought me to Mudcat by looking for information on Bruce and has connected me to him, a friendship that I cherish greatly.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: KenM
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 05:35 PM

And to appear at the Apple Hollow Music Fest.......I'm looking forward to venturing north from southwest Florida for that event and to meet some of you there. Many of us probably shared some time and space in the Blue Lantern and the Yellow Door (and other venues) listening to Bruce many years ago.

By the way, speaking of those times.......in the song "Snowden", Bruce has the line ".....Gagnier showed me the door.....". I presume he is referring to Sean Gagnier, who was a fixture on the scene back in the late sixties as well. I remember he and Bruce used to duet on Ewan McColl's "Bringing in the Fishes". Anyone know whatever happened to him?

Much of this thread has dealt with what I presume is a self-produced CD version of Bruce's CBC album and I agree with the consensus that there are some great lyrics and singing on that album. I also think there were great moments on 33 1/3 Revolutions Per Minute despite the bad production (which many commentators have noted). Some of the political songs are as relevant today as they were then. In "Mary, You Are My Friend", Bruce writes,

"........But now machine guns testify, that Hitler's back again
All he's done is change his name, and perhaps go more insane....."

and later, "......Traitors govern us, they're inventing, lies to hide their wicked smiles...."

Man, if those words don't describe the current administration in Washington, what words could?

"Lay Down Our Drums" can serve as much as a peace anthem today as it did in 1968.

One of the nonpolitical songs "Justine's Blues" is stunning:

"Justine's got the blues, she says it's good enough for her,
She hopes it's good enough for you...."

and, "I'd like to help, she means what she says, hell if she'd only tell me what she means...."

To me, this song about the horrors of heroin addiction ranks up there with Neil Young's "Needle and the Damage Done" from "Harvest" and Tom Paxton's "Cindy's Crying" from "Tom Paxton 6".

I just realized that if this site is monitored by Homeland Security, those comments above about Bruce's political songs might land me on the "No Fly List" and I'll never get to the festival so I had better shut up before I did myself in deeper.

ciao


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: bankley
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 04:05 PM

He has taken the big silver bird to La Belle Province to put the finishing touches on his latest 'record'......

if it hadn't been for all your encouragement, and the 'Cafe',,,, well,,,, I fear that things would have remained quiet in the new release dept.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Amos
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 01:07 PM

BTW, I believe Bruce is on the road at the moment, so he may not have access to a computer. Be patient. He will be thrilled to see all this recent traffic.


A


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Azizi
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 01:05 PM

Well, alright!

That's what makes these songs so good. Their tunes & words stick with you.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: KenM
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 12:54 PM

Azizi - I'm with you.....I love both those songs but the one that I was singing at the time was "Rough Night in Jericho".


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Azizi
Date: 29 Jun 08 - 08:57 AM

Markus and Ken, welcome to Mudcat! It's great that you two were led to Mudcat because of Bruce's music. Like you and many others here, I look forward to hearing Bruce's latest songs by purchasing his new CD.

**
olddude, that's good news about Bruce's website too!

**

Ken, in your 28 Jun 08 - 06:15 PM post to this thread you said:
"Just the other day, I heard myself singing "Jericho" in my head and decided to Google Bruce and discovered all this wonderful information".

I'm curious which "Jericho" song you meant. I'm aware of at least two Bruce Murdoch "Jericho" songs: "Plains of Jericho" and "Rough Night In Jericho". I love the words to both of these song. It depends on my mood which one of them I prefer.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: olddude
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 11:14 PM

Rapaire thank you
His new stuff is just awesome. Look for the website real soon. As soon as Mr. Peace sends me the rest of what I need to do it ... Hint are your reading this B


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Janie
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 10:58 PM

Hmmm.....wonder what Dr. Freud would say about that....;^)


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Beer
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 10:42 PM

Mean "shirt" not "shit".


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Beer
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 10:41 PM

Yep, he's a good shit alright. Give you the shit off his back than will look all over for something to wear.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 10:36 PM

Welcome abroad! And Olddude -- welcome back.

As you've probably figured out, we all think Bruce is just the cat's pajamas.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Beer
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 09:13 PM

O.k Ken,
I'm going to send you a P.M. message. When you read this, look at the top of the page and there should be in blue "You got ____ message".


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: KenM
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 08:49 PM

Adrien and Amos:

Thank you for your notes and I'm now a member. Adrien.....no, I don't think we crossed paths, at least not at Douglas Hospital. I grew up in Verdun on First avenue between Wellington and LaSalle so I obviously always knew where the "The NutHouse" was. I did my undergraduate degree in Applied Social Sciences at Sir George Williams University and knew a number of people who did either internships or volunteer work at Douglas. Ironically, after I went west and got my MSW at the University of British Columbia, my first social work job was doing rural community mental health inn Saskatchewan.

It is so neat to connect after all these years with friends/fans of Bruce Murdoch.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Amos
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 07:56 PM

Ken:

Bruce posts frequently here under the handle "Peace", and if you take on some member name or other and register, you can send him personal messages here.


A


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Beer
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 07:14 PM

Ken,
I don't think we crossed paths and hopefully not where I worked anyway. I was at Douglas Hospital for 35 years. Started there 1967.
Bruce probably won't get to you for a bit but as soon as I hear from him I will pass the message. If you joined as a member I could send you a more detailed message.
Adrien


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: GUEST,Ken
Date: 28 Jun 08 - 06:15 PM

Hello........I'm just connecting to these various threads on mudcat concerning Bruce Murdoch. I went to Verdun High School at the same time as Bruce although we didn't know one another at the time. I distinctly recall him edging me out for the last spot on the VHS cross country team one year though I doubt he remembers that. Obviously, I have not, lol! Later, I followed his career at the many folk venues in Montreal in the late 60's. Lost touch with him when I moved to Vancouver in 1970 for graduate school and didn't see him again until the Northern Lights Folk Festival in Sudbury in either 1975 or 76 after I had begun my academic career at Laurentian University. Since then, I have pursued my academic career which has finally landed me here in Ft. Myers, Fl in southwest Florida.

I have both the 33 1/3 and CBC albums and a year or two ago, I used a piece of software to transfer them to CD (minus the clicks and pops from frequent playing). I did the same with the "Singer-Songwriter Project" on Electra. Bruce, if you are following this thread and don't mind me sending copies......I take it that the cd you distributed in '05 was the CBC album. I woulld be more than happy to send a copy of that to anyone interested, if you give approval.

Just the other day, I heard myself singing "Jericho" in my head and decided to Google Bruce and discovered all this wonderful information. Please let me know more about the forthcoming cd and about the live appearance "Beer" references in the last post.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Beer
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 08:59 PM

Hi Emma,hope all is well.
New location for the festival this year and yes Bruce will be here to break it in.
Olddude, Bruce called me about 6 weeks ago around 11 at night and said "what do you think of this". He picked up his guitar and sand a new one he had just finished writing. I was awestruck. unbelievable. He is hoping to have the c/d on sale at our festival. Hope he brings plenty because I have this feeling that the folks are going to love his recent writings. Wish both of you could make it.
Adrien


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Emma B
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 08:33 PM

A 'generous genius'
Can't wait to hear the new CD


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: olddude
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 08:24 PM

and he was kind enough not to laugh at the amateur songs I have been writing. Now that is a kind hearted person for sure


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: olddude
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 08:12 PM

He was kind enough to let me hear some new cuts , I thought his old stuff was great, wait until you hear his new. It blew me away no kidding it will be his masterpiece work I think


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Janie
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 01:49 AM

Markus,

In case you don't know how to do that, click "personal page" up at the top of the page in the header. From there it should be fairly clearly how to send a pm.

Hey Peace, how is the new CD coming along?


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Amergin
Date: 27 Jun 08 - 01:26 AM

Hey mate, send him a private message. He goes by Peace.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Guldhamstern
Date: 26 Jun 08 - 06:51 PM

Is there any chance in the world to get this CD?

I could donate money or whatever it takes.
I'm new here and don't understand how things works, who is who and the english grammar. So execuse me if i'm not wanted here with my demands. But I really like what i've heard of Bruce, the somewhat bad produced 33 and 1/3 and SSP, but I want more and the fact that everybody seems think that there is better music than that made by Bruce makes me even more frustrayed over not knowing what to do to get it.


Please read this and try to understand a swede who not seems to understand.

Markus


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Raedwulf
Date: 15 Oct 05 - 03:28 PM

So where's the new CD, Bruce? Mudcat has allowed you more than a month. I know genius cannot be rushed, but... ;-)


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Beer
Date: 10 Sep 05 - 07:59 PM

What a great writer. Singer to.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Sep 05 - 01:11 PM

Well, I certainly think it's okay. Maybe not great, but it is certainly okay.

Well, maybe it's better than okay. Maybe it's swell....


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: gnu
Date: 10 Sep 05 - 12:54 PM

I said it a long time ago, on at least two other threads.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: ragdall
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 08:55 PM

It is brilliant!


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 08:40 PM

It is, indeed.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Azizi
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 07:06 PM

It was brillant when it was first recorded. And it still is now.

That's one way you can tell good music-staying power.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: GUEST,appreciative listener.
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 07:01 PM

Guess we are a little off the subject here guys and gals. What about that CD of Brucies? Was it brilliant or was it brilliant?


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 06:20 PM

hahah Yep. I think we could make a good case against tyranny and despotic behavior.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 04:45 PM

I just saw the title change. I am writing a god damned letter! (apologies to That Canadian Guy) to .... Shamie.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 04:21 PM

Let's hope so.

btw, thanks to el Clone who added clarification to the thread title. The initial one was kind of jarring.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar! (CD Review)
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Sep 05 - 08:55 AM

Even some of the Idaho folks are taking a long look at Big George & the Boys. This Katrina thing seems to have blown some blinders away.


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar!
From: Amos
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 03:53 PM

YEah, look what a successful policy that's been!! Mebbe it is now part of State's rights to start a war, too, eh? Hasn't been done since 1859, IIRC!! About time. Put on the gray and march on Washington...

"And I won't be reconstructed, and I DO not give a damn..."


A


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Subject: RE: Bruce Murdoch: Liar!
From: Raedwulf
Date: 01 Sep 05 - 03:41 PM

Oh, I didn't say anything about Idaho starting a war, any more than I admitted to borrowing the binoculars off of NASA...
Ooooops!


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