BS: Shotgun Cheney

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 08:11 PM

Yes, we do. The one with the microphone could quack like a duck and the one with the shotgun . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 08:11 PM

And, of course, there were no automobile accidents or any other "accidents" in the world today. Jaysus... youse are twits.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Bert
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 08:06 PM

We have a Vice President who can't use a gun properly and a President
who can't use a microphone.

We don't stand a bloody chance!

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 08:04 PM

Bullshit.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: leftydee
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 07:56 PM

Accidents happen, but .... I've spent 1000s of hours (literally) bird hunting and have never shot anyone , been shot or, for that matter, ever knew anyone that was. Regardless, if it's an accident it means it was a mistake and I can live with that. However, the resonsibility remains with the shooter. Part of field hunting etiquette requires that you know where your companions are. Another part means respecting the working dogs and shooting that low is questionable. Plus, good ethics require that you're properly licensed. It looks to me that Mr Cheney ain't quite the sport that the media reports. My biggest complaint is that it appears that he tried to pull a Ted Kennedy.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: kendall
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 07:49 PM

Maybe he forgot it was quail they were after, and thought it was turkey season?

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 07:45 PM

Latest update on shoot 'em down Dick ... he was hunting illegely, as he did not have his $7.00 permit ... but don't fret my amigos, he gets off on a warning.

If anyone hears that he is coming up to New Brusnwick (Canada) on a hunting trip will you please warn me.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 07:22 PM

Well, well, then. Lets listen to people with gun training and experience in the field:


Cheney Violates Cardinal Rule of Hunting
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON -

Vice President Dick Cheney apparently broke the No. 1 rule of hunting: be sure of what you're shooting at. Cheney wounded fellow hunter Harry Whittington in the face, neck and chest Saturday, apparently because he didn't see Whittington approaching as he fired on a covey of quail in Texas.

Hunting safety experts interviewed Monday agreed it would have been a good idea for Whittington to announce himself — something he apparently didn't do, according to a witness. But they stressed that the shooter is responsible for knowing his surroundings and avoiding hitting other people.

"We always stress to anybody that before you make any kind of a shot, it's incumbent upon the shooter to assess the situation and make sure it's a safe shot," said Mark Birkhauser, president-elect of the International Hunter Education Association and hunter education coordinator in New Mexico. "Once you squeeze that trigger, you can't bring that shot back."

Duane Harvey, president of the Wisconsin Hunter Education Instructors Association, said if Whittington had made his presence known "that would have been a polite thing to do." But, he added, "it's still the fault upon the shooter to identify his target and what is beyond it."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060213/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_hunting_accident

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 07:22 PM

Don't use a shotgun worth a damn. Shoot open sight or scope with both eyes open. Have done so for 45 years.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 07:20 PM

I thought you did not use a shotgun, Peace. You shoot rifle sights with both eyes open? Scope?

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 07:15 PM

When I hunt (or shoot targets), I keep both eyes open. Took me some gettin' used to when I was twelve or thirteen, but it's become a life-long habit. Increases my field of vision by 100% from 90 degrees to 180 degrees.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 07:10 PM

Well, well, well. Listen to all the people with no gun training and no experience in the field. And, even some that think they do. I sincerely hope none of you ever come near me with a weapon in hand. You lot would scare the shit out of me.

As for making sure of your target and all... nope. Don't cut the grass in this type of hunting. Proper procedure does. That's why there is a proper procedure. Hope this is a lesson to everyone. Especially those who are so bent on hanging Dick. Because, if you do not understand the cause of this accident, you have not been properly trained and should have your weapons taken away from you until you have been properly trained.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 06:49 PM

He was obviously shooting with one eye closed. (I am bein' nice when I say that.)

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Barry Finn
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 06:47 PM

So he shot 'em in the face. So what if the guy's a birdbrain.

A covey of quais, umm. Sounds like trying hook fish in a barrel. NRA should've given him a course in safety first, then a fishing rod.

I'd invite him up here to hunt on my 1/3 acre, except I'm afraid for the dog. Truthfully I'm also afraid that he'll be mauled by the neighbor's cat. It's a really big cat. A Maine Coon Cat. They grow big ya know. Maybe top 15 lbs easily & very effecent mousers. Dick would become a renown hunter if he bagged it. On the other hand if he just winged it & then got head all clawed up how would that look?

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 06:23 PM

It behooves anyone approaching anyone with a gun to let their presence be known in some audible way -- just wearing bright orange won't cut it. Yes, the greatest fault is the shooter's: "Be sure of your target" is one of the Commandments ground into the soul of every ethical shooter. But BOTH sides have to take some responsibility.

Subject: RE: BS: Shogun Cheney
From: Severn
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 06:18 PM

Speaking of negligent hunting, word is that Dick Cheney is already signed up to star in a sequel to that Bobby Knight TV biopic based on the John Jr. Feinstien book. This one's entitled "A Hunting Season On The Brink"....

I'm sure he'll get plenty of Bobby Knight jokes, but what this all really does is make me understand the whole Pat Tillman situation a while back a little better....

I'm sure this case will go straight to A Pellet court....

Will Cheney become a chainee?....

To paraphrase Smokey,
"Remember, only YOU can prevent Friendly Fires!"....

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 06:16 PM

The shooter is always the responsible party. It's like a rear end collision--if you did the rear-ending, it's your fault. Cheney is responsible not the victim.

Hopefully, the press will blow this into some more bad publicity for this administration who are still even now far more buoyant than they should be. If huge issues as Iraq, intelligence failures and the failure to promptly react to huge disasters aren't enough to convince the idiots who still support these creeps to cut these guys loose, maybe some idiotic hunting scandal will finally do it--something people of that level can finally understand and relate to.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 06:04 PM

I agree with gnu. It was stupid and avoidable act of carelessness on both sides.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 06:01 PM

I was taught never to fire at anything I couldn't positively identify, so how does the fact that the target crept up on him justify what happened?

Just think tho' of the trouble he could have saved the USA if he had reversed the gun before firing......another lost opportunity.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 05:56 PM

Gnu - the man who was shot was wearing a bright orange hunting vest. You rarely see quail dressed like that.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 05:50 PM

Well, well, well. Listen to all the people with no gun training. Pffft! I have hunted Ruffed Grouse in heavy bush at close quarters. Never shot anyone. On accounta noone ever snuck up on me within range. It was simply an accident that should not have happened. And, it would not have happened if the lad had followed proper procedure and signaled Cheney of his approach. Case closed. Move on. Nothing to see here, folks.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 05:39 PM

He were a proud, potatoe-lovin' Republican & not QUITE as fatuous & moronic as Dumbya.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 05:22 PM

Bee-dubya-ell, I hope you didn't mean that Dan Quayle was a Democrat!??

Hell, Quayle was so forgetable that I briefly forgot whose VP he was.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 04:59 PM

cartoon ideas: which should I do?

Quail #1: OK tell me the plan once again
Quail #2: I get Dick's attention and then you fly in front of George.

Cheney staffer: You know there comes a time when you get jaded to a vicarious thrill and you need to do the real thing.

Elmer Fudd (looks like Cheney) Ware is dat wascally lawyer?

Headlines: Cheney accidentally shoots lawyer...Bush accidentally stabs Shehan... Rice accidentally chews leg off Democrat.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 04:29 PM

It couldn't have happened to a better guy.

BTW ... I noticed the CBC site removed the picture (of an actual quail)   with the caption stating "this is a quail"

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 04:08 PM

Then think about how to spell 'sold'.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 04:07 PM

Somebody somewhere solk him a hunting license. Think about that!

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 04:03 PM

I sent him an e mail.....asked if he needed a Hunter Saftey refresher course....

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 03:24 PM

Bee-dubya-ell, I hope you didn't mean that Dan Quayle was a Democrat!??

I hope this will increase the Impeachment Movement even more.

"Dickie got a gun..."

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 03:18 PM

The OK Corral.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 02:39 PM

Gotta hand it to that ol Halliburton Hillbilly out shootin for some food. This time he bagged a lawyer instead of bubblin crude, Texas tea or black gold.

Texans surely love to go out shootin in Kenedy County Texas but iffn ya ever hurt somebody ya better wait the mandatory "Ted Kennedy" 24 hours before reporting it. That way the breathalizer test will be OK.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 02:33 PM

And, don't forget the grief Jimmy Carter got for whacking a rabbit with an oar!

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 02:31 PM

Aim at Al-Queda and hit Iraq. Aim at a duck and . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 02:23 PM

Cheney--the NRA supporter. However, it was a shotgun, not a rifle.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 02:23 PM

If Cheney goes, can I have the job? I promise not to mistake a person for a quail -- I've been able to tell the difference between birds and people for a long time now.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: kendall
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 01:40 PM

MG is right, he should go. People jumped all over poor old Gerry Ford for nailing some guy with a golf ball, and those are not considered dangerous weapons.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 01:36 PM

Let's not dump on a guy who shoots a lawyer, and a republican to boot!

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 01:26 PM

I think Mr Red's got it! Cheney thought the lawyer was Dan Quayle and, thusly, a Democrat and fair game!

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 01:13 PM

deja vu

It's Bush and Quail all over again

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Peace
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 12:39 PM

Didn't Cheney take Kerry to task over mistaking a goose for a duck? And here we have Cheney mistaking a human for a duck. Gotta love it, huh?

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 12:21 PM

Just once again proves my contention that there are NO accidents with guns -- only carelessness. On both their parts, in this case.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 11:23 AM

"Well, folks, Cheney *did* believe the other guy had WMD's..."

Good one Bobert ... a quail can now be classified as a WMD.

Or more like Cheney with a shotgun in his hand can be classified as a WMD!

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Big Jim from Jackson
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 11:14 AM

Does anybody happen to know the bag limits on lawyers in Texas? Could he have him stuffed and mounted on the wall above his desk?

Actually, anyone who shoots a lawyer can't be all bad.........

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: GUEST,The Hunting Song c. 1950
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 11:09 AM

http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2764

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 07:50 AM

Looks like a question along the lines of "When did you last complete a gun safety class?" needs to be added to the FBI's background-check for Whitehouse employees.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 05:58 AM

Bet nobody will come up with the "Cheney Boogie"...

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: JedMarum
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 05:23 AM

My friends have already responded with a few interesting comments:

I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney then ride with Ted Kennedy!

I'd rather drink with Kinky!

I'd rather be rich then innocent!

I'm sure the late night guys are already working with their writers on some great jokes for this week.

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Arne
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 12:15 AM

'Martin Gibson':

Hurts to have your shortcomings pointed out so plainly, eh?

But you're right: Cheney needs to go, and then Dubya right behind him. Then the entire rest of the Republican criminal enterpise. When that's done, we can truly say "our long national nightmare is over...."

I'm quite sure that you, as a rational person, are quite in agreement.

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Feb 06 - 09:58 PM

Well, folks, Cheney *did* believe the other guy had WMD's...

Subject: RE: BS: Shotgun Cheney
From: Arne
Date: 12 Feb 06 - 08:22 PM

Martin? Martin??? Is that really you??? Thank goodness! The meds seem to be finally taking hold....

But is it really necessary for him to "quit and resign"? Seems to be a bit of what we'd call ... say ... "overkill"....   ;-)

Cheers,