BS: What Do Women Want???...

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:06 PM

cain't generalize nohow, women are not all the same..but almost everyone comes to something like this question eventually, and the only way to deal with it is to find out what YOUR woman really wants...and whether you are willing to offer her some reasonable % of it.

Note...not all MEN are the same either. Some are more ...ummm...'sensitive' to women's wants than others. It helps if you even sound like you are looking honestly at her concerns, rather than just looking offended and/or confused.

I dunno, it may be the real question is "why are you doing THAT*, when you haven't weeded the garden?"

(*playing guitar, typing on Mudcat again...and again...and again...*grin*)

Was there any previous agreement about who would weed...and how much? How many other issues besides the garden surface regulatly, and is the garden just a cover for general upset with life? If so, maybe this batch of 'experts' here at Mudcat is not the place to be askin'.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:06 PM

My guess, Carol, is that her ex-husband ended up in Schenectady. There is no worse fate.

To think that any particular woman is the "most special person on the face of the Earth" requires a temporary suspension of sanity. :-) And that, of course, is exactly what happens when one falls in love.

What if one fell in love with everyone simultaneously? That would be a whole different dynamic, and it could be quite interesting, but it falls outside the parameters of conventional marriage.

Anyway, I avoided this common conundrum to some extent by never getting married, but I did have girlfriends and, yes, these problems did come up from time to time. They just weren't permanent, that's all. If they had been, I would probably be in Schenectady.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 10:52 AM

I've always hated 'well if you don't know I'm not telling' line. If you ask me what's wrong, I'll tell you. Don't blame me if you get all eggy about the answer.

Neither will I keep telling you. If I've told you already then there shouldn't be any need to keep repeating it.

And as for what this woman wants.... £4million on the lottery, a scout hut in Hastings and a bar of chocolate a week. I figure with the £4mil, I can lure Sean Connery and Hugh Jackman over for a week each.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: MAG
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 10:50 AM

Nerd: the exact word was "sovreinty." (?sp)

ie, as much right to call the shots as men. Don't try to argue THAT story with me.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 10:35 AM

Serves you glad.
eric

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: SINSULL
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 10:15 AM

I can't answer for all womenkind but as for me - I just want someone to think that I am the most special person on the face of the earth. Presumably then he will water the garden without a reminder.

Now you know why I am single.
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 08:54 AM

mary g: #3! Not only is the veggie garden her hobby but when you figgure up what we get out of it in the way of food compared to what it costs to have it, we're way behind...

Fencing and post; $500.00
Compost tumbler: %500.00
Soil ammendments per year: $75.00
Orgainic pest control stuff: $50.00 per year
Tiller: $300.00

Total: $1425.00

Other information: Percentage of $$$'s I, I mean my friend earns: 90%
                   Percentage of $$$'s his wife earns 10%

Other, other information: Average yield per year $200 in veggies.

C-Flat,

My friend's wife has a closet full of' the danged things now, ain't one of them prissy types no ways... But, hey, my friend is listenin'...

Nerd,

I think yer on thr right trail, here...

CarolC,

Don't ask... But it ain't purdy...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: C-flat
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 05:05 AM

Bobert, you're looking for answers that don't exist. The apparent air of discontent displayed by your friends' partner has nothing to do with how wet or dry their vegetables are. In all likelyhood she has no idea what she wants or why she's so irritable but feels the need to demonstrate her discomfort by taking it out of the man in her life.
It has taken me three marriages to arrive at one certainty with regard to the female species;

SHOES!


That's it!


SHOES!


A woman has many wants and needs but none as great as her need for SHOES.
Armed with this vital piece of information you can safely navigate through the perils of a relationship in the sure and certain knowledge that however tough things get you can always take her shopping for SHOES and that everything will be made alright.

If I had my time over I would have bought a shoe shop.

C-flat.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 04:17 AM

Man- whats the matter darling ?
Woman- well if you don't know I'm not telling you!!!

nuff said.
eric

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 03:59 AM

Might have been better to ask what women don't want...could have been a shorter thread....Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 02:58 AM

Oh, and she MUST have asked you - they always do mate.... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 02:53 AM

If one of your male drinking buddies - a good friend - said "I'm going away for a week - please feed my hunting dog" - you'd try to remember.

So you forget these things because your wife is not a good friend? !!!

Simple, set your mobile phone reminders, put notes up in obvious places, or in PC reminder calendar, or ask your drinking buddies or your workmates to remind you.

Wife gets home, is deluded that you remembered what she asked you because she thinks you really treat her as a friend and care to remember what she says to you. Wife may then be inspired to do nice things for you! It's purely selfish, I know mate! But isn't that what we guys are?

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Nerd
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 02:28 AM

MAG's interpretation of what Arthur found out is very new-agey. "Some control over our own lives" is not how any of the Arthurian ladies expresses it. What women want in the Arthurian texts is to rule over men, to control them and their property.

In The Wedding of Gawain and Dame Ragnell, what Arthur found out was literally that a woman wanted "sovereignty over all of a man's body and goods"; "To have the rule over the manliest men." Same in the Wife of Bath's Tale, essentially.

Sound familiar, Bobert?

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Blackcatter
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 02:01 AM

They can create life in their bellies. They think that makes them special. Good thing we men have been controlling their lives for over 4000 years!

I know, I'm ducking and running for cover.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: mg
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 01:38 AM

I'd say it depends on whether the vegetable garden is necessary to your economic survival or is a mutually agreeable joint hobby or is her baby and you are dragged into it. If #1, you do have a responsibility for it unless you have both agreed that you will do more of the wage earning and she will do more of the gardening. If #2 you have less responsibility but probably should have noticed. If it is her thing and she just wants you to help out, and you are otherwise contributing fully to the family enterprise, either financially or domestically, then I can't see what you did wrong. You were willing to help when asked but since it is not your thing (if that is the case) and you are agreeable to it but not totally enthused, then she is being unreasonable. If the family is going to suffer without both of you constantly watching the water situation of the garden, then you screwed up.

mg

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 01:04 AM

So where did her ex-husband end up?

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: GUEST,frustrated woman
Date: 31 Jul 04 - 12:59 AM

If you've been away for a week, OF COURSE the veggie garden needs watering. "Your friend" might have seen this for himself if he had looked. Grrrrr!

Maybe we would like - just once - for men to notice what needs doing without us having to take all the responsibility for noticing it and having to point it out to them. Our kids are grown up. We don't want to be mummy any more.

Okay, rant over. Have a nice day.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Peace
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 11:57 PM

Fools go where angels fear to tread. That is my contribution to this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Big Mick
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 11:44 PM

They would really like men to REALLY be interested when they ask this question.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: MAG
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 11:40 PM

King Arthur found out the answer to your question centuries ago, Bobert. Freud would not have needed to ask it again if he had been paying attention.

Women (we) want some control over our own lives.

In other words, how many times had the sweet woman pointed out that the garden was croaking???

Subject: BS: What Do Women Want???...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Jul 04 - 11:16 PM

Okay, this ain't about me but I got this friend...

But, gol danged!...

So, ahhhh, I, I mean my friend's wife comes to him last weekend and says "Either find a place fir us to go fir a week where we won't have any work to do or yer gonna end up where my ex-husband is..."

Like, that's a heck of a way to say, "Honey, we need to get away."

But that ain't my, I mean my friend's question. Like my friend and his wife get home after a nice mellow week in a cabin way back in the Wes Ginny mountains and my wife, I mean his wife gets all mad at him 'cause he couldn't read her mind and go out and water the veegie garden.

I mean like what gives? Men is supposed to be like mind readers, 'er what? Hey, if the P-Vine, I mean my friend's wife, wants me to water the veggie garden why not just ask me, 'er whoever, to water the danged garden. But, no! Has to turn into a danged "situation"...

So what gives?

Why don't womenz come out and ask what they want?

And why do womenz expect men to not only guess what they is thinking, but also go out and do it?

And, while we're at it, when do men get to win one? Hey, Iz ain't asking to win a bunch. One would do just fine, thank you....

That's my question...

Bobert