BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:54 PM

Wisconsin and Illinois are great examples. However, the coming election will do nothing to change the balance of power even if all the 'right' people DO get elected. That's the rub OWS is up against.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:42 PM

I hope you are right SRS.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 11:29 PM

The Tea Party has more than met it's match with Occupy Wall Street. As disorganized as they seem, and as incoherent as some would like to portray them, this is the antidote to Sarah Palin and her ilk.

Thank goodness. I think it will help get some people unelected.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 10:54 PM

The voters of Illinois and Wisconsin are changing things. The Tea Party changed things. What's effective is to get the right people elected, or, even more effectively keep the wrong people from getting elected. Votes count.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jeri
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 09:16 PM

"More effective means of changing things"
In the short term, perhaps, for those with short attention spans who lack patience and the will to persevere.

I think these guys want to change more than "right now", and it's starting to seem like they may do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 09:06 PM

(Sorry, Jack, but it's got to be said. Then, like static on the radio, which also conveys nothing of substance, I shall strive to ignore it.)

Judging from what he/she/it has said repeatedly, GfS hates Obama with the kind of purple passion that one would expect to find gurgling in the gut of the Grand Dragon of the KKK, which sets one to wondering what its motives might be. Not politics, because just about everything it has accused Obama of, from the circumstances of his birth to his religion to his alleged incompetence (lack of successful in getting the Republican Congressional brick wall to cooperated) is pure Fox News blowhardery. And be it noted that in the past, GfS has more than amply displayed rank prejudice in relation toward certain minority groups, especially about granting them their full civil rights.

Now, it's right that both parties are corrupt, but to keep lumping the two together the way some folks here are wont to do (such lofty pronouncements make one appear—or, at least, feel—wise, hence far above all the naïve, brainwashed rank-and-file voters) despite the fact that the two parties are not equally corrupt. If one were to be a good enough citizen to take the time and effort to check the voting records of a number of Senators and Representatives (you DO, at least, check those of the Senators from your state and the Congressional Representative from your district—don't you? Well, don't you?), you would see that there are politicians in the Democratic Party who think democratically or progressively, and not only do they talk the talk, they walk the walk.

This is not to say that there are no Republicans with integrity. There, indeed, are. But the Republican Party argues from a set of principles quite different from what I believe is the right direction in which the country should be moving. Hence, I am forced to throw in my lot with the Democratic Party (I, however, am not a member of the party).

As has been pointed out many times before that, in this country, third parties and their candidates, some of which are far preferable in terms of reflecting my own ideas, have NEVER managed to put a candidate in the White House and only rarely into Congress. More's the pity, but unfortunately that's the way it IS. So one votes for a candidate who comes closest to reflection one's values and who has a real chance of winning. To do otherwise may be idealistic, but thus far, it has proven futile.

[My hobby horse of Preferential or Instant Run-Off Voting would change all of that, however.]

Is this person a Republican? Or, at least, have they displayed Right Wing sympathies? Well, the attacks have all been directed at Obama and the Democrats and the "liberal loonies," with shots taken at "old hippies who never grew up," and other such rightist-style epithets. And this person thought the Tea Party was just peachy-keen, but keeps attacking the Occupy Wall Street movement with everything including the kitchen sink, provided by the Fox News Plumbing Company.

So—what do YOU think? What was that old saying about, "It looks like a duck, it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck. . . ?"

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 08:54 PM

"Occupying and changing conversations....fancier words for taking up space and talking. There are more effective means of changing things."

Let's hear them.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 08:40 PM

Oh really, dick??? Like what??? The right wing owns all media... The right wing has most of the4 $$$...

How exactly were we supposed to accomplish changing the conversation??? Work campaigns??? Lotta of us have done that and it never changed any conversations...

You are mistaken...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 08:23 PM

Occupying and changing conversations....fancier words for taking up space and talking. There are more effective means of changing things.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 06:56 PM

Like I have pointed out all along, the right wing wants OWS to present it's "white papers" on policy... That is a trap... Screw the right wing... OWS ain't policy weenies... That's what Congressional staffers used to do before the lobbyists took over that work...

No, what OWS is about is changing the conversation... We have done that...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 06:48 PM

"GfS: when you don't shout or talk down to people, you make good points."

It is as if your entire mind set and personality is stuck in super cynical mode. You assume no one but you knows how bad it is or how bad its going to be. Since you have abilities, it is imperitive that you gain a deeper understanding of yourself beyond the the recent past. Perhaps you could explore something transformative within yourself that will include a larger purpose and audience. I modestly suggest you think about your own purpose for posting and consider presenting a feast that virtually everyone could enjoy. Dill, bitters, sour cheese and over ripe sushi has its fans but I believe a sweeping menu change would serve you, and us, well.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 06:39 PM

Do we really need to have this tread, like so many others, including the one that was closed dominated by Gfs' pointless blathering. Remember where it is coming from. Sour grapes over the defeat of Hillary Clinton. Her candidate lost so now she is against "the system". She doesn't seem to want change or a better system. Her "plan" is to change things by not getting involved. She doesn't want change. She just wants an argument. Don't give it to her. She is like a Republican, in that even when you agree she moves the goal posts.

Don, Give us all a break, ignore her.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Ed T
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 06:20 PM

An interesting perspective on the eviction of th Occupy movement from Halifax Nova Scotia on November 12th.

Mayor Kelly Muffs His Moment

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 03:07 PM

GfS, I likened you and your shouting-mate to Beavis and Butthead because up to that point the two of you had offered nothing but the equivalent of the vandal interlopers at the OWS gatherings who were there to smash windows and spray-paint store fronts and give the protests bad PR by causing mayhem.

In the rare instance when you ever offer anything of value, I am more that willing to read it. But with RARE exceptions, so far you've been rude and insulting and have offered little but negativism larded heavily with misinformation.

Try behaving like a civilized human being and leave the childish insults out of it and people might pay more attention to what you have to say.

In short, grow up!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:46 PM

999: "GfS: when you don't shout or talk down to people, you make good points."

That's because no matter how many times I've said it, the usual partisan morons keep avoiding the issues!..then get into immature slurs and name calling! The was one just a few posts back, in which the pedantic 'tard posts a cartoon of 'Beavus and Butthead'. People doing that ARE the reason they get talked down to!

As to the 'good sense' part of your post....look how many times I have ACCURATELY foretold what was happening...only to have time prove me right...but the morons keep, up with their childish antics. It would be WONDERFUL if they'd get past that, and open a decent dialogue, without the usual STUPID talking points, as dogma from on high!

So, perhaps when you see it happening, call them on it!
Is that too much to ask??...liberal mindedness coupled WITH integrity?...BEFORE they want to conquer the far 'other side', with what is seen as asinine, moronic brain-lock???..Who wants that shit???!!!???....Moreover, how would they have an influence, when to act so fucked up, is the alternative?????????????????

you mean to embrace those ideas, I have to be willfully stupid, TOO????!!!

Regards,
999, and to whom you really are!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: bobad
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:24 PM

Willie Nelson: It's time for the rich to pay up

"I pay my taxes and some of those guys up there [on Wall Street] don't," he noted. "And those are the ones that I'm pissed off at, the ones that make millions of dollars a year and don't pay any taxes."

Watch Willie here

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:22 PM

GfS: when you don't shout or talk down to people, you make good points.

The earlier mention of Obama being out of the country: he was in the country before he left and that changed not one bloody thing. This president has been abrogating his responsibilities to US citizens.

As for city mayors and DHS sleeping together: they are gonna play hardball. When someone forces you to do that, take the initiative: pitch. Bring class action lawsuits against the cities, their councils, their police and DHS. Let THEM worry for a change.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 12:41 PM

(oops, hit the wrong button...)

....Freddie and Fannie?? 'Loan' guarantees??
If a 'representative'(?) knows which bill is going to pass, and the financial repercussions of that bill, don't you think he and his stock broker are exchanging inside maneuvers, that will obviously sway which way he is going to vote......regardless of what he publicly says to the press, and his/her constituents???

The Democrats think that if they pander to 'caring' about the bleeding hearts, and the Republicans stir up fear, and to resolve it, they push 'patriotism' and 'national security'...they both will have support, and lots of it, by the blind followers, chanting a mantra of talking points, from the respective positions.......then they pass whatever money making, fraudulent bullshit, in which they don't give a rat's ass, about the care and well being of us, nor our freedoms..or what made this country worth defending!!!!

What is REALLY a piss-off, is that the devotees/promoters of this bullshit, just plain IGNORE the very truth, staring them in the face...and just go on defending, and making stupid rationalizations, stretching reality, and twisting it into pretzel-like 'logic'...just because the 'party' they happen to belong to, sells them a fictitious sales pitch, in which they feel came down from the deities!

If the OWS crowd wants to succeed in 'their mission', they need to FOCUS on the REAL issues, and NOT let their successes b overrun by loose cannon, morons, and opportunists, who will just escalate this into bloodshed, by their bad judgements, and behavior!..Which in turn, will deteriorate the effectiveness, and credibility of their valid points.

What we need more, than people getting their heads beat in, for the behavior of idiots, is the EXPOSING of the CORRUPT practices of the politicians/Wall Street/Lobbyist/Insider Trading crowd...and replace it with integrity, truth, and a lot less gullible public!
Shit!..For all we all know, this whole clampdown, and power grab could have all been scripted out, and now played out before us, just to get the desired results, of the tyrants, and oppressors!!!

Something to think about, eh????

.....and then we wonder what incentive those same crooks have in the Mexican 'drug war', and what's in it for them...versus protecting our borders, as set forth in the Constitution!.....BEFORE the Bill of Rights' subjects!

GfS

...and that's the rest of the post....but a LOT more can be said, and I'm sure it will!

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 12:13 PM

Steve Suffet: "What OWS has accomplished, if nothing else, are two things: 1. It has refocused the political conversation in such a way that people are now raising such fundamental questions. 2. It has motivated millions of people to engage in mass action. Because of these two accomplishments, I am now feeling more optimistic than I have in years. I believe a struggle has now begun, but let us not fool ourselves into believing that occupying a few parks will be enough."

Right!...Now it is time to FOCUS on the real problems, and get solutions. Where the OWS crowd is missing the mark, is that they are shifting the focus OFF the original intent, and now making themselves the issue!

Because of political partisan bickering, in which both sides have played a huge, and corrupt role in all this,(as I've posted before, and including the insider trading collusion between Wall Street and Washington), I tend to think that the 'representatives'(?), on BOTH sides, are going to make as much as they can, before the house of cards collapses on their corrupt game!

Frankly, this whole thing smacks of an orchestrated Machiavellian scheme, in which when its all said and done, the very people who the OWS crowd purports to be against, is the very same people who will orchestrate the 'crackdown' that they've been itching for, for years!!
...and this will drag a lot of innocent people down with it, and leave our freedoms(what we have left), to a memory, and a footnote to history....then the very people who are 'allegedly' being protested against, will have unfettered control over EVERY aspect of our lives!

Its time to move onto prosecuting the high crimes and treason that have been foisted against our country, and set into place measures that clean up their act...BOTH in Washington, AND Wall Street, and not fall into the trap of thinking one party is more innocent than the other. They're BOTH in it together....because when a candidate goes to Washington, it is NOT to represent the people, but to make a fast buck, and keep doing it as long as possible, or needed!!!
Our present president is a glowing example of this, being as he has carried on the exact same policies, and direction that his predecessors have done!

Do you ever wonder how many stocks in pharmaceuticals, and the medical INDUSTRY were traded in the days surrounding the 'Health Care' vote?? ...by the very people who voted for it??? Iraq?? the 'bailouts??

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 09:22 AM

I am extremely concerned about the 18 city co-ordinated police action against OWS coincidentily while the President is out of the country.

A staff member of the Federal Judicial dept said that a joint meeting of Homeland Security and various state and city mayoral and police forces are mobilizing for a nationwide police action.

We have all seen the results of the new rules OWS is to obey under ammended free speech interpretations by the (authorities?)
and the resulting police vandalism to private property accross the country.

The only TV media I have acces to outside the internet is Obermann and Pacifica radio. The other outlets have gone uniformally silent and all repeat the same talking points.

What are the best media sites out there.

PS When it comes to insuireing the public health and safety of of the public on the street I would start by not assualting , terrorinzing, stealing from and injuring the people.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,John from Kemsing
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 06:57 AM

I notice a number of posters have vented their spleen on Washington. On this side of the Atlantic we have politicians, especially the opposition who spout things like "This Government should get a grip and introduce measures to combat this global recession!". When asked what measures the critics have in mind the answer is a blank, they haven`t got a bloody clue themselves!

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Suffet
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 06:42 AM

Akenaton,

There is no need to read between the line. We are pretty much in agreement about the situation, but then so are a lot of people. Where the big differences of opinion exist are over tactics and strategy. Personally, I am not wedded to any one approach, but at this point in time I strongly believe that tactical nonviolent resistance is and should be the cutting edge, while others engage in activities as varied as electoral politics, education, organizing around specific issues such as defending the rights of labor unions.

I presume that we also agree that while "We are the 99%" makes for a good slogan, the issues go much deeper than getting the 1% to pay their fair share. Even if that demand were won, the inherent inequities of the global corporate capitalist system would remain in place virtually unchanged. Furthermore, within the 99% there are still the very serious divisions of class, as well as problems such as racism, neo-colonialism, sexual and gender oppression, and more. What we have is a global economic system that is built upon exploitation on all levels. Even those people closer to the bottom exploit those beneath them -- think of the petty slumlord or sweatshop owner -- while those closer to the top are exploited by those above them.

What OWS has accomplished, if nothing else, are two things: 1. It has refocused the political conversation in such a way that people are now raising such fundamental questions. 2. It has motivated millions of people to engage in mass action. Because of these two accomplishments, I am now feeling more optimistic than I have in years. I believe a struggle has now begun, but let us not fool ourselves into believing that occupying a few parks will be enough.

--- Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: akenaton
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 04:11 AM

In short, stop apologising for the system, faceup to the uncomfortable truth, or shut the fuck up and bend over.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: akenaton
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 04:06 AM

If you "liberals" read between the lines of Suffets post, you can probably gauge that he and I are in agreement about what needs to be done.

The Disneyland attitude of giving our leaders a "good talking to" will change nothing.

Your ultimate choice is civil war.....annihilation; or a genuine attempt to unite and find common ground with the REAL majority of ordinary folks who have no political motivation.

Education, Education, Education......get it?

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:39 AM

Well don't lose sleep over it!!!!!!

(Probably couldn't sleep wondering what ridiculous post the 'Bob and Don Show' was going to puke up!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:34 AM

Couldn't open them, GfS. I have certainly enjoyed the links you posted about those other videos, though (Judy Collins, etc).

Well, gonna get some more sleep now. I had gone to bed hours ago, but woke up a short while ago and thought I'd check things here.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:27 AM

Its past you bedtime!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from sanity
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:26 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:25 AM

Mo, ir'S NOT about the PARK.

Who ever said it WAS?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:24 AM

Hey, Little Hawk..Were you ever able to open those music attachments?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:19 AM

I tend to agree...it's not about the park...or about any specific location. If you give an oppressor a stationary target, he eventually finds ways to attack it. A moving target is a lot harder to deal with.

There should be more creative ways of staging a protest than simply occupying a park. If there were enough people willing to take to the streets, as there were in Egypt recently, then doing something like occupying Tahrir Square could possibly work in the long run...but I don't see that happening here yet. Not enough people are taking part for it to happen.

The same thing is occurring in Toronto, and the occupation of a park there is being used by the media to turn the general public against the protest movement. They say that the protestors are trespassing, messing up the park, and causing harm to local businesses. Many people are falling for that negative line of propaganda....and the actual message of the protest is being covered over by it.

Mind you, that could have been expected. The elite are always looking for a way to make anyone who objects to the gross material divisions in society look like "a bum"...and people fall for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 02:16 AM

From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 01:46 PM

"The actions of New York's mayor seem to have spurred OWS activity in other cities. It appears that the forcible suppression that Bluesman and GfS favor is highly counterproductive."

Where in the hell did you get that figment of your screwed up imagination?????????????????

I'm in favor of forcible suppression??????
jeez you political nut-jobs just think you can make up ANYTHING!...but then................you usually do!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Nov 11 - 01:51 AM

The OWS crowd has lost it's focus. It's NOT about the park, remember?..but now its turning into a media event, with lots of sabre rattling about the fucking park!
OWS is LOSING public support...and to get it back, they have to deal with the REAL issues and culprits....in WASHINGTON, too!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Suffet
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 11:39 PM

Greetings from New York:

Marilyn and I left Zuccotti Park nine hours before the NYPD invaded, and we will not have a chance to return until tomorrow (Thursday, Nov. 17). But watching the events on live streaming and watching the news reports afterwards got me to thinking that the Occupy Wall Street movement hasn't seen serious really repression yet, certainly not the kind that was visited upon the Civil Rights movement in the southern USA during the 1950s and 1960s.

However -- and this is a big HOWEVER -- if and when OWS ever becomes a serious threat to the economic and political order, those in power will come at us with everything they've got, and I don't mean with only batons, pepper spray, and plastic handcuffs. Instead they will...

• Freeze our bank accounts, seize our property, audit our taxes, and hit us with judgements, fines and civil penalties.

• Harass us with lawsuits, subpoenas, TROs, and injunctions; haul us before grand juries and Congressional committees; get judges to issue gag orders and cite us for contempt.

• Indict and prosecute us under various state and federal criminal laws, including for conspiracy and/or criminal solicitation, since nearly any conduct can be considered a felony even if no actual criminal act ever takes place.

• Confiscate or revoke our passports; put our names on the no-fly list.

• Take away our children on grounds of neglect, abuse, or endangerment, including claiming that we are "indoctrinating" them.

• Get FISA warrants to tap our phones, bug our homes and offices, intercept our mail and e-mail, and place GPS devices in our vehicles.

• Plant spies, informers, and provocateurs among us; spread disinformation; use bribes and intimidation to turn us against each other.

• Subject us to preventive detention, psychiatric civil commitment, or indefinite arrest as material witnesses.

• Bring trumped-up criminal charges for such things as drug trafficking, weapons possession, child pornography, and sexual assault; plant false evidence; use perjured testimony.

• Go after our families, our friends, our coworkers, our employers, even our lawyers.

• And if all these are not enough, use deadly force.

If you don't believe such things can happen in the western democracies, go ask the Black Panthers and other targets of COINTELPRO, and that happened long before the USA Patriot Act.

--- Steve

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 08:02 PM

Thanks, Little Hawk, for posting the letter, and Kat, for posting the link.

I just signed it.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:49 PM

LH, I was just about to post that, too. Here's a link to the PETITION which simply says:

PROTECT THE FIRST AMMENDMENT.

I/We stand with Occupy Wall Street and all Americans who wish to defend our disappearing liberties in demanding that the Mayors of America respect the First Amendment and the rights of our citizens to assemble and express themselves.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:39 PM

The latest email message from Dennis Kucinich:

Dear Friends,

At 1:00 AM Tuesday night, after two months of peaceful protest against the people and institutions that wrecked our economy, police officers under direct orders from the Mayor of New York City raided Occupy Wall Street and evicted protestors from Zuccotti Park.

The First Amendment of the Constitution guarantees all of us - including these protestors - the right to peacefully assemble and express our views. But over the past week, similar nighttime raids executed by mayors in Oakland, Portland and Atlanta have cast a dangerous shadow over our liberties.

Today, I am asking you to join me in standing with Occupy protests everywhere and demanding that the Mayors of America respect the First Amendment and the rights of our citizens to assemble and express themselves. Click here to sign the petition and demand that the mayors of America respect the Constitution and the rights of Occupy Wall Street to exist.

Right now, corporations are spending unlimited amounts of money to influence our election system under the guise of free speech. Yet when people like you and me gather in parks across America to protest this broken system, we are deemed a threat by local mayors.

Stand with me, Occupy Wall Street and all Americans who wish to defend our disappearing liberties in demanding that America's mayors respect the Constitution and rights guaranteed to all Americans in the First Amendment. Sign the petition today.

With respect,

Dennis

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:16 PM

I'm a parent that has been in the parks with two of my children.
And there are lots of other parents and children there.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:08 PM

The real 99%, includes the protestors and the asses who think they are better than the protestors.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:06 PM

The real 99% is getting tired of this protester nonsense.
Time to clean out the parks so that they can once more be used by parents and their children.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: gnu
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:05 PM

I just googled the OWS library and saw the "garage tent" and thought... "Where is the library?' on accounta I can't see 5000+ books being in it. I was KINDA asking a question in a poor manner... and I also stated that destroying even 500 books was a crime.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 03:03 PM

Bloomberg always has been and always will be a pompous ass. Make that a millionaire pompous ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 02:19 PM

One of the most revealing incidents occurred when, after having previously arrested protesters for impeding traffic on the Brooklyn
Bridge, the City shut down the busy Queensboro bridge for a weekend in order to---hear this--allow a film crew to film a Batman sequel.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Don Firth
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 01:46 PM

The actions of New York's mayor seem to have spurred OWS activity in other cities. It appears that the forcible suppression that Bluesman and GfS favor is highly counterproductive.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:00 PM

And the case is still before the court. I understand there was a stay issued by a judge that is being appealed by NYC. The stay was issued before the eviction.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 11:50 AM

Mayor Bloomberg deserves a vote of thanx from the OWs for providing their biggest PR boost in a month. I was particularly impressed by his banning reporters from the park-clearing activities and his cavalier treatment of the books.

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 08:23 AM

I endorse law and order.

Like Dick Nixon did, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 02:35 AM

I'm smooth.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 02:33 AM

Rough start to the day in Colorado, uh?

Subject: RE: BS: Occupy Wall Street; The 99%
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 02:28 AM

Oh, and Don...I just scrolled down and read your last posts.....once again, you've been betting on the wrong horse!...especially, in light of the 'new' reports!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smilin' and a winkin'....

GfS

P.S....I don't know how many times, I have to keep reminding some of you, that I,m on YOUR side!

Fuck!..Play music!!!