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BS: 2012 Presidential Election

saulgoldie 06 Dec 11 - 06:28 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: saulgoldie
Date: 06 Dec 11 - 06:28 AM

No comments regarding the latest in Cain/Gingrich? Well, there is the Cain thread, I guess. And the request for the Justice Dept to investigate widespread systematic vote suppression.

And speaking of vote suppression, how about our ex-gov, Robert Ehrlich and the robo-calls telling voters that "O'Malley had already won" and they didn't need to vote. Priceless!

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: saulgoldie
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 03:40 PM

From Andy Borowitz, again. Because I simply HAVE to!


Startled Deer Becomes New Republican Frontrunner
Inability to Speak Considered a Plus

CONCORD, NH (The Borowitz Report) – The race for the Republican presidential nomination took an unexpected turn today as a new poll showed that a startled deer was the new GOP frontrunner.

Bucky, the red deer who is the first choice of likely Republican voters is believed to be the first woodland creature ever to lead a major party's presidential field.

"Voters like what they see in Bucky," said veteran political strategist Ed Rollins, who has signed on to helm the red deer's primary campaign. "The fact that he is unable to speak is a major asset."

In his first appearance in Concord, New Hampshire, however, the antlered candidate garnered mixed reviews for what some observers said was an unsteady performance.

Appearing frightened by the TV lights, Bucky kicked over the podium and then pranced down the hall before being subdued by a tranquilizer dart.

"Clearly he's a little rough around the edges," said Mr. Rollins. "But he still did better than Herman Cain."

It was another rough day for Mr. Cain, who offered this response to a reporter's question: "For the last time, I did not touch her down there. Oh wait, did you say 'Libya?'"

Gov. Rick Perry also stumbled badly in a campaign appearance in Iowa, telling supporters, "If I am elected, I will find out where Iran's nuclear weapons are. Also, where Iran is."

Meanwhile, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich predicted that his recent rise in the polls is not a fluke: "The American people want an adult, and no one has a stronger record of adultery than I do."


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 05:36 PM

Theme song for the 'campaigns'...It's SHOWTIME!!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 05:29 PM

"He came off as a complete idiot."

There's a simple explanation for that. Perry IS a complete idiot.


"Is there something desperately wrong with the water in Texas?"

It's not the water. Although if someone offered Rick Perry money to dump radioactive sludge in the Trinity River he'd be right there with his hand out. Corporations are people after all and Rick Perry loves any of the little people willing to grease his palm.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: gnu
Date: 11 Nov 11 - 05:00 PM

I heard audio clips on the CBC yesterday from a debate with Rick Perry... they played them in real time so we could "Judge for ourselves". Is this fuckin guy for real? He came off as a complete idiot. Is ther something desperately wrong with the water in Texas?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 02:43 PM

Herman Cain has been invited to China to attend the Shon-chat-zu, roughly translated as Re-education camp 4. There he will learn about China being a nuclear power for 45 years and attend a space launch which highlights the fact that USA has no such space program today.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 02:34 PM

Oh... It turns out that the Evening Wear competition is also the dance segment of the show.

Set your DVR


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 02:30 PM

Greetings Don.

Although Rick Perry said he was going to bow out of debates from now on, there is one BIG event that he will join.

The TRUMP GALA PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE COMPETITION - "President America 2012"
Its based on 13 seperate competition events which include the talking portion and the action portion of the competition.

Talking Competitions:
2 debates on the value of of religion in government.
3 debates on the moral values of marriage and family.
3 debates on conservative goals vs godless intellectualism.

ACTION COMPETITIONS:
The singing competition
Beach wear competition (with wife)
The evening wear competition
The sharp shooting competition
The 1 mile marathon.

winners of any debate gets 1 point
winners of any Action Competition gets 10 points.


Perry is setting his sights on the shooting, running and beach wear events.

Perhaps the oddest thing about the Trump Presidential Debate Competition is that all the Judges are female and have appeared on FOX News. Other than that they have not yet been announced by the Donald.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 02:10 PM

Michele Bachmann claiming that God speaks to her (even through her husband) reminds me of the popular singer of some years back who was conducting an anti-gay campaign in Florida. Among other things, she was in the habit of changing the lyrics of well-known pop songs to give them a fundamentalist "Christian" slant.

In regard to her anti-gay campaign, she said that "God has His hand on me."

On hearing that, a friend of mine commented, "I know that's not true. If God had His hand on her, it would be over her big, fat mouth!"

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 09:40 AM

Meanwhile, conservative author and paid provocateur Ann Coulter made the cable talk show rounds defending Cain against the allegations. On Monday, she appeared on Fox News, telling Sean Hannity that black conservatives are better than black liberals. "Our blacks are so much better than their blacks. The only racism you hear is against conservative blacks--and it is vicious" Coulter said.

I betcha some of her best frends are Black Folks, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 03:43 PM

The only two Republicans who don't scare me to death are Jon Huntsman and Buddy Roemer, and they are off the radar. (I don't necessarily agree with them, but they seem to be basically sane and honest.)
I guess if a candidate refuses to join the circular firing squad, the extreme conservatives are not interested.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Amos
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 12:57 PM

That is not a strategy, it's a dysfunction syndrome.

Besides, if th ey have to hold their noses it is because they have been so insistent on irrationality as a commodity in trade, a very bad thing for a nation. They are currently the far more toxic of the two major parties.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 09:51 AM

I don't doubt that Bachmann hears voices but I doubt seriously if it's God talking to her... I think the poor girl is suffering from schizophrenia...

Herman "I can't recall" Cain must suffer from dementia...

Rick "Cowboy" Perry seems to like his liquor evidenced by his speech the other night...

Romney??? When Republicans have to hold their nose at nomination time that does not bode well for their chances of beating Obama next Novemeber...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 09:16 AM

Bachmann says that god is telling her to run for president.
Cain is trying to remember if he sexually harassed anybody or was accused of it, if they then settled or agreed to anything, if he may have signed something, if it was three months or one year's salary as a payoff... Memories of Clinton not having sex with that woman.
Perry is appearing high on something.
I suspect Romney is looking better and better to Republicans.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 09:59 PM

The Republican strategy is disenfranchisement...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 09:52 PM

Personally, I suspect that the Republicans' strategy this election is to overwhelm the entire process and news media with so many stories that people get tired of listening!

There is such a plethora of attacks on laws, unions, and institutions, coupled with strange candidates ("send in the clowns") and wild Tea Party events that there are dozens of things that need investigating, but only a few that actually get serious media attention.
   There is an old expression: "Nibbled to death by ducks"... that expresses how hard it is to even list all the flurry of Republican shenanigans we need to combat. Another is: "When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember why you wanted to drain the swamp."

The conservatives are throwing Jesus, anti-abortion laws, anti-tax legislation, anti-gun regulation, anti-environmental attempts, anti-union activities, etc. at us in a continuous barrage, and making ALL of it into an anti-Obama crusade! It is said that Conservatives define themselves mostly by what they are against!

I think it's like buckshot... fire enough of it, and people can't dodge everything....or if they do, they have to get so far out of range they can't know what's happening.

Silly? Giving them too much credit for planning? Maybe...but sheesh! I have been voting for 50 years, I have NEVER seen such a campaign. A dozen Republican 'candidates' and even before any primary votes are cast, all except Romney seems to have shot themselves in the foot...and they don't seem to like Romney.

What a mess......


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 06:02 PM

Studies challenge wisdom of GOP candidates' plans
By CHARLES BABINGTON - Associated Press, 30 Oct 2011


WASHINGTON (AP) — Key proposals from the Republican presidential candidates might make for good campaign fodder. But independent analyses raise serious questions about those plans and their ability to cure the nation's ills in two vital areas, the economy and housing.

Consider proposed cuts in taxes and regulation, which nearly every GOP candidate is pushing in the name of creating jobs. The initiatives seem to ignore surveys in which employers cite far bigger impediments to increased hiring, chiefly slack consumer demand.

"Republicans favor tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, but these had no stimulative effect during the George W. Bush administration, and there is no reason to believe that more of them will have any today," writes Bruce Bartlett. He's an economist who worked for Republican congressmen and in the administrations of Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

As for the idea that cutting regulations will lead to significant job growth, Bartlett said in an interview, "It's just nonsense. It's just made up."
Government and industry studies support his view.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which tracks companies' reasons for large layoffs, found that 1,119 layoffs were attributed to government regulations in the first half of this year, while 144,746 were attributed to poor "business demand."

Mainstream economic theory says governments can spur demand, at least somewhat, through stimulus spending. The Republican candidates, however, have labeled President Barack Obama's 2009 stimulus efforts a failure. Instead, most are calling for tax cuts that would primarily benefit high-income people, who are seen as the likeliest job creators.

"I don't care about that," Texas Gov. Rick Perry told The New York Times and CNBC, referring to tax breaks for the rich. "What I care about is them having the dollars to invest in their companies."

Many existing businesses, however, have plenty of unspent cash. The 500 companies that comprise the S&P index have about $800 billion in cash and cash equivalents, the most ever, according to the research firm Birinyi Associates.

The rating firm Moody's says the roughly 1,600 companies it monitors had $1.2 trillion in cash at the end of 2010. That's 11 percent more than a year earlier.

Such findings notwithstanding, further cuts in taxes and regulations remain popular with GOP voters. A recent Associated Press-GfK poll found that most Democrats and about half of independents think "reducing environmental and other regulations on business" would do little or nothing to create jobs. But only one-third of Republicans felt that way.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Wesley S
Date: 01 Nov 11 - 05:31 PM

I'm sure everyone will be happy to see that the Rev Terry Jones has decided to throw his hat into the ring:

Terry Jones, the Florida pastor known for publicly burning the Quran, is running for president as an Independent, on a platform of spending cutbacks, deportation of illegal immigrants and tax cuts for businesses.
   

In an interview with IBTimes, Jones said on Thursday that he was motivated to run because of the country's harsh economic reality, which he felt was not being articulated by the current presidential candidates. Jones also concerned by the country's direction, particularly the growth of national debt and government spending.

"I'm really concerned that the politicians that are running right now, most of them are not telling the American people the truth," said Jones.

However, he praised Republican candidate Hermain Cain, calling him "straightforward," "honest," and a "successful businessman." Jones said that if his own campaign was unsuccessful, he would endorse Cain.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Wesley S
Date: 14 Oct 11 - 03:02 PM

An excellect documentary about how presidential campains are run. It's showing currently on the Sundance channel.


The Return of The War Room.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 12:52 PM

The entire world, by necessity, IS very concerned about USA presidential (and other) politics, because the USA affects the entire world in a very serious way.

This is not true of most nations, but it is true of the USA.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 12:02 PM

Actually, brucie has a better handle on American politics than probably 90% of Americans... LH??? Not quite 90% but on the plus side of 70%...

It'd good that folks realize just how much stuff the US can screw up for the entire world... And conversely, how much good the US can do when it's got it's act together which it hasn't had a long time...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: GUEST,999
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 11:55 AM

AT LAST we have common ground. Keep well, Wesley.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Wesley S
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 11:47 AM

It's just that I find the opinions of Canadians concerning American presidential politics to be interesting - and to use your word - irrelevant.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: GUEST,999
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 10:52 AM

Nice try, Wesley, but you miss the boat again. It's not about Canadians or Americans or Mexicans or Libyans or Israelis or Palestinians or, or, or. It's about the plunder and rape of the entire planet and that planet's people. It's about a system that enacted laws that allow corporations to be persons. It's about 3,000,000 home foreclosures in your country--illegal home foreclosures.

Are you not concerned that 49,000,000 citizens of the US live below the poverty line?

Are you not concerned that about 50% of your representatives in Congress are millionaires?

Your remark reminds me of the following:

'"You know you never defeated us on the battlefield", said the American colonel.

His adversary pondered this remark a moment. "That may be so," he replied, "but it is also irrelevant."

That conversation occurred on 25 April 1975 in Hanoi between Colonel Harry G. Summers, Jr., then Chief, Negotiations Division, U.S. Delegation, Four Party Joint Military Team and Colonel Tu, Chief of the North Vietnamese Delegation.'

Yes, I am Canadian. Yes, you are American. When someone moves in to the house or apartment beside you and that someone makes explosives, I suppose you would then remember what you said in this context and say nothing about it to the authorities, correct? I mean, they aren't doing that in your house, right, and so it's not your business?

The OWS have printed a manifesto. It goes beyond the borders of the USA. It goes beyond the borders of North America. It pertains to human conscience and human rights, not political ideologies as generated by governments that are no longer responsive to the needs of average people. When the US dollar goes up or down, it affects the entire world. Telling me it isn't my business (or LH's business) is not only disingenuous, it's also puerile. That's what you seem not to grasp.

You are right. I am Canadian. It is also irrelevant.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 10:17 AM

You're wrong. And in more ways than you apparently realize.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Wesley S
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 09:24 AM

Let me see if I have this right. 999, Peace and Bruce are all the same person? And I'm discussing American presidential politics with either 2, 3 or 4 Canadians?? And everything in Canada has been fixed and is all hunky dory? Please correct me if I'm wrong.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 03:00 AM

Well put, Bruce.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: GUEST,999
Date: 09 Oct 11 - 11:48 PM

"I didn't send anyone to Afganistan either so I guess we're both better men than the President."

In fact, you did send men and women to Afghanistan, just as you sent troops to Iraq and Libya. When the persons you voted for (or didn't vote for) do things, good or bad, they do so in your name. THAT is what the Wall Street Occupiers have seen. And that is why they are angry. Remarks like 'he's done more than 99.99% of the people who post to this site' is childish. Yes, Obama has--and he's also done more evil and harm than 99.99% of the people who post to this site. And that's why people are pissed off. The days of


'WE DIDN'T KNOW
(Tom Paxton)

"We didn't know", said the bourgomeister, "about the camps on the edge of town
It was Hitler and his crew that tore the German nation down.
We saw the cattle cars, it's true, and maybe they carried a Jew or two"
They woke us up as they rattled through, but what did you expect me to do?"

CHORUS
We didn't know at all, we didn't see a thing.
You can't hold us to blame, what could we do?
It was a terrible shame, but we can't bear the blame.
Oh, No, not us! We didn't know.

"We didn't know," said the congregation, singing a hymn in their church of white
"The Press was full of lies about us, Preacher told us we were right.
The outside agitators came, they burned some churches and put the blame
On decent southern people's names to set our colored people aflame
And maybe some of our boys got hot and a couple of niggers and reds got shot
They should have stayed where they belong
And Preacher would've told us if we'd done wrong."

"We didn't know," said the puzzled voter, watching the President on TV.
"I guess we've got to drop those bombs if we're gonna keep South Asia free.
The President's such a peaceful man, I guess he's got some kind of plan.
They say we're torturing prisoners of war, but I don't believe that stuff no more
Torturing prisoners is a Communist game, and you can bet they're doing the same!
I wish this war was over and through, but what do you expect me to do?"

Words and music by Tom Paxton
Copyright 1965, United Artists Music Co/EMI'

are over.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Oct 11 - 04:48 PM

I get your point, Wesley.

But I don't think I'm a better man than Obama. I just don't agree with a good deal of what he's done...or not done...since he became president. That doesn't make me a better man than him, and I wouldn't even begin to make any assumptions about any one of us (meaning me, you or Obama) being "better" than the other. I think it's dangerous and illusory to make such assumptions.

That doesn't stop a lot of people from doing it, of course. ;-D They do it a great deal. But I don't. I don't think I'm "better" than anyone....matter of fact, I am my OWN number 1 critic in the entire world, and it would probably be a good idea if I stopped judging myself so stringently. (But that's another topic.)

I fully understand why you laugh at the vanity of people's ravings about politics on the Internet. I do that too. And then I rave about politics myself at some point. ;-) In other words, I too suffer from the almost universal human weakness of blathering on about stuff that I haven't personally done anything about. It helps ease my tension. It gives my mind something to chew on and my fingers something to type.

I suspect that birds and monkeys do something fairly similar when they gather in the trees for the afternoon "yak-fest". C'est la vie.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Oct 11 - 11:55 AM

I didn't send anyone to Afganistan either so I guess we're both better men than the President.

I don't know - it just makes me laugh to watch someone on an internet forum sitting in their home pointing their finger and saying " Hey - see that guy over there - he isn't doing enough. He isn't living up to my expectations of him."


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Oct 11 - 11:36 AM

You could say that of any American president. Do you expect your neighbour across the street to accomplish what the president does? If so....how? You can't accomplish what the president does unless you are placed in his official position with his authority.

We are just talking here, okay? Free speech is a constitutional right, and that's all we are doing. I don't feel the least bit guilty because I have not accomplished what Mr Obama has....but I do feel pleased that I didn't bail out the criminal bankers who caused the recession...and that I didn't send more people to die in Afghanistan.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Oct 11 - 11:17 AM

I'll call Obama an activist. He's actually done stuff. Was it ALL the stuff you wanted him to do? Of course not. But he's accomplished more more than 99.99 percent of the folks who post on Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Oct 11 - 10:54 AM

It's laughable to call Obama an "activist". He is no activist. What he is, is a fairly typical and obedient executive, doing what they all do once in office: rendering required service to their wealthy bosses who provided the funds that got them into office, meaning they are serving the interests of the rich elite. They are themselves members (or associates) of the club of the rich elite in the first place, and that's why they were nominated and elected.

He's just another executive, albeit a rather weak one who is at the same time a brilliant speaker.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 06:24 PM

The bills will all be paid by George Soros out of the $12 billion he has accumulated by short-selling America's business comunity...

And which crystal ball did you get this from, PeeDee- or did you just pull it out of your arse, as usual?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 05:15 PM

"That is because he is and "activist" and not an executive at all."


'In nominal dollars the net public debt rose and then fell between 1992 and 2000 from $3 trillion in 1992 to $3.4 trillion in 2000, in part due to the Dot-com bubble.[11] During the 1990s, debt held by the public rose to 50% and then was reduced to 39% by the end of the decade.

During the presidency of George W. Bush, the gross public debt increased from $5.7 trillion in January 2001 to $10.7 trillion by December 2008.[12] Under President Barack Obama, the debt increased from $10.7 trillion in 2008 to $14.2 trillion by February 2011.[13] Debt relative to GDP rose due to recessions and policy decisions in the early 21st century. From 2000 to 2008 debt held by the public rose from 35% to 40%, and to 62% by the end of fiscal year 2010.[14]'


The above is from an excellent article in Wikipedia. Looks like lots of Tweedledee and Tweedledum to this old boy. People will no doubt get sidetracked with arguments that Bush was worst than Obama, or vice versa. Just Lather, That's All. Fact is, the damned money is gone. And there don't seem to be too much difference between the two parties--or the two leaders for that matter. Bush was illiterate and unintelligible; Obama literate and well-spoken. But the bottom lines, those in the lower right-hand corners, tell a sorry and disgusting tale.

IMO. Y'either see it or you don't. Ain't really too much else to say.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 11:00 AM

President Obama addressed it in his Oct 6 news conference.

He doesn't sound all that enthusiastic to me. More like (paraphrasing) "Yeah, they're upset about a whole bunch of of things related to the economy and government. Now, MY tax plan... My jobs plan... MY etc., ...and we need a strong business sector."

The protesters are focused on economy in a very broad-based way, Obama's focused on what HE can do about it (presumably, without pissing off too many rich people).


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: pdq
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 10:37 AM

Obama gave an enthusiastic endorsement to the Wall Street protestors.

That is because he is and "activist" and not an executive at all.

The protestors are carfully organized and supplied with food, warm clothing, bull horns, and direction where they are supposed to "protest".

Machael Moore, Susan Saran Rap and the usual Hollywood suspects are showing up and giving pep talks. The bills will all be paid by George Soros out of the $12 billion he has accumulated by short-selling America's business comunity, the people that employ the million who are now unemployed. What a stupid game.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: GUEST,999
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 10:11 AM

Just out of curriositee/courioustiy/curiousity inquisitiveness, has Obama said anything about the Wall Street protests?

I have been assuming he's still president. Is he?


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: pdq
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 10:00 AM

Thanks for you last post, Little Hawk.

We get "... character assassination, hyperbole, insults, denigration, demonization of entire groups of people, and gross innuendo..." all the time from supposed comedians and opinion writer when we should be getting help uniting the county and solving its considerable problems.

This type of destructive and divisive crap is killing the country. The Middle Class is deing and these a-hole fiddle with their pens.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 09:43 AM

I find it very interesting that with the slate of potential Republican contenders that the right winged corporate BIG MEDIA is still all over trying to get Obama out with their commentators saying he's toast and bogus polls released every other day showing him losing to one or another of wackos...

I mean, they are all very beatable... And please, no more no president has ever won re-election with these kinds of unemployment numbers BS... FDR did exactly that in '36 by telling the truth in blaming Hoover for handing over such a sick economy and '36 wasn't even close... FDR walked thru it without working up a sweat...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 08:48 AM

"The moron vote"? Exaggerated? I don't think so.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 07:27 AM

Sorry......"Kosher".....now thats satire! :0)

Once again LH hits the nail, you are a "one of" G.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Oct 11 - 01:57 AM

I see abusive, exaggerated satirical crap like that in the Toronto Sun frequently...only it's not about Sarah Palin or anyone on the Right...it's about liberals, Democrats, socialists...basically anyone who is positioned to the left of the most rightwing members of the Republican Party faithful or the Conservative Party of Canada, which worships at the same alter the Republicans do.

Yes, the Sun enjoys depicting anyone on the left as either a criminal, a dupe, or a complete moron. If Andy Borowitz was only willing to switch sides and persecute people on the Left the way he just did Sarah Palin, I'm sure they'd love his writing style, based as it is on character assassination, hyperbole, insults, denigration, demonization of entire groups of people, and gross innuendo.

They'd hire him at once! He could attack people like Obama and Al Gore in the same mean-spirited and silly fashion. You guys wouldn't like it one bit, but the Sun would lick its chops with delight. You mind when they do it. You applaud when your allies do it.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: GUEST,999
Date: 07 Oct 11 - 03:56 AM

Satire. What makes it work so well is that it's easy to believe.


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: saulgoldie
Date: 06 Oct 11 - 06:07 AM

Once again, Andy Borowitz:

* * * *
Palin Decides Not to Run: 'I Want to Go Straight to the Quitting Part'
Decision Leaves Moron Vote Up for Grabs

ANCHORAGE (The Borowitz Report) – Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin told reporters today that she would not run for President because "I want to go straight to the quitting part."

"If I launched a campaign, let's face it, a couple of months from now I'd up and quit," she said. "This is a real step-saver for all concerned."

She said that prior to her decision she had seriously considered running, "but only for the free clothes."

When asked about her future plans, she said, "Although I'm not running for President, I have no intention of spending more time with my family."

The former Alaska Governor, who had originally scheduled a thirty-minute press conference to announce her decision, abruptly cut it short after fifteen minutes with no explanation.

The Tea Party favorite's announcement leaves the remaining Republican candidates scrambling for the moron vote, a key constituency in the 2012 GOP race.

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney was said to be considering new strategies to dispel the nagging impression that he is mentally competent, an attribute that has alienated millions of Tea Party voters.

Mr. Romney was rumored to be weighing a number of options, such as barking like a dog or wearing a bunch of bananas on his head at the next televised debate.

Meanwhile, still reeling from charges of racism, Texas Governor Rick Perry was reportedly huddling with advisors at his country home, Jewtrap.

* * * *

We are a)relieved; b)surprised; c)dismayed; d)fill in your own emotion.

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: akenaton
Date: 28 Sep 11 - 11:29 AM

Still doesn't sound cosher!


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: saulgoldie
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 09:12 PM

Should have been:
"And exactly who honestly wants HER with her finger on the button???"

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: saulgoldie
Date: 27 Sep 11 - 09:00 PM

In the race to the bottom...Michelle Bachman:

(From the Huffington Post)

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) warned an audience of supporters in Cedar Rapids, Iowa Monday that Hezbollah could build "missile sites" in Cuba. "Why would you normalize trade with a country that sponsors terror?" said Bachmann, in response to a supporter's question asking her to explain her position on trading with Cuba.

"There are reports that have come out that Cuba has been working with another terrorist organization called Hezbollah. And Hezbollah is looking at wanting to be part of missile sites in Iran and, of course, when you are 90 miles offshore from Florida, you don't want to entertain the prospect of hosting bases or sites where Hezbollah could have training camps or perhaps have missile sites or weapons sites in Cuba. This would be foolish."


And exactly who honestly wants with her finger on the button???

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 11:38 AM

I generally skim through many links and decide what to re-read or to just bypass it. Greg's link I have now read twice and completely. Frightening, sad, and totally believable.......I seem to want to commit parts of it to memory for future use.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From: GUEST,999
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 11:05 AM

100% with Bill on that. Clear language that gives credence to some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated in the past few years concerning the machinations of both parties and the state of the union. .


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