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Cat Stevens aka Islam

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Sorcha 14 Jul 00 - 08:09 PM
Murray MacLeod 14 Jul 00 - 08:00 PM
bflat 14 Jul 00 - 07:42 PM
bflat 14 Jul 00 - 07:38 PM
bbelle 14 Jul 00 - 07:36 PM
Bill Hahn//\\ 14 Jul 00 - 07:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Cat Stevens aka Islam
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Jul 00 - 08:09 PM

This is another one where I think I will reserve judgemnt. Another very old, very long ethinic/political dispute with rights and wrongs on both sides. No black/white, just shades of gray. Unfortunately, in this sort of thing, there is no absolute TRUTH. Hamas may not be "good", but some of the ShinBet stuff is not "good" either. A country does what it has to do to survive, and that goes for the Palestinian countries as well as Israel.

Sorcha, whoknowsmoreaboutthisthanjustreadingExodus
(but nobody knows everything)


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Subject: RE: Cat Stevens aka Islam
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 14 Jul 00 - 08:00 PM

Could I make a plea here that before this degenerates into a political slanging match, could those who feel like contributing an anti-Islam knee-jerk reaction to this thread please take time out to study in detail the history of the State of Israel, with particular reference to the atrocities committed on the native Palestinians by the early settlers. Then perhaps we can all go back to singing "Moonshadow" with a clearer conscience.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Cat Stevens aka Islam
From: bflat
Date: 14 Jul 00 - 07:42 PM

Bill Something goofy happen above as I never submitted my message. I regret learning of these leanings by Cat Stevens. I believe you should not encourage the music of anyone who aligns himself with an organiztion such as Hamas. To thine own self be true.

bflat


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Subject: RE: Cat Stevens aka Islam
From: bflat
Date: 14 Jul 00 - 07:38 PM


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Subject: RE: Cat Stevens aka Islam
From: bbelle
Date: 14 Jul 00 - 07:36 PM

Yes, Bill, I read the article and thought the same thing ... "can I separate ...."

But, since I'm Jewish, I will do the forum and all its members a good deed and not contribute any further my feelings on the subject.

moonchild


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Subject: Cat Stevens aka Islam
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 14 Jul 00 - 07:33 PM

Perhaps some of you have seen the news item about his being detained at the airport in Israel and then being refused entrance to the nation.

He claims he was held "prisoner" in a small area without bathroom facilities. The government said they held him in a departure lounge till they could get him on a plane out of the country.

It seems that on list trip he --perhaps--illegally gave funds to the Hamas group.

THe moral dilemna for me is does one still involve oneself with the early Cat Stevens and his songs of peace and love---or go along with his current thinking that seems to totally negate his earlier philosophy?

Up to this point I felt I could seperate the two entities. Now I cannot seem to do that.

Your thoughts are certainly welcome on this subject.

Bill Hahn


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