BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Amos
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 10:07 AM

More on satellite-based Internet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 10:04 AM

That would be setting up a WiFi system.

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 10:03 AM

A friend of mine has used Wildblue for a while, and has had a few issues along the way. He's a computer geek so he was able to solve them.

DishNetwork provides satellite, but you have to be out in the middle of nowhere to be eligible for it--something about how they compete with the local closer service.

Maybe you should set up your own satellite system. I've heard about them being set up in the mountains of West Virginia, it was on an NPR program probably in the last 24 months. It's not that expensive to set up and then provide access for your neighbors.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Bee
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 09:12 AM

Ebbie, there are plenty of places in Canada where dialup is all there is - like my house. And I wouldn't have to drive more than 30 km. to reach a long stretch of paved road where electricity is not available.

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 07:39 AM

"getting fapped"

The civilised geeks call this 'shaping'.... :-P

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 02:34 AM

It always surprises me to be reminded that there are many places in the US- and in the world - where anything faster than dialup is not yet available.

Kind of like electricity up to the mid1950s. There were areas that unless you lived within a stated measure of distance from an existing electric line you couldn't get it. I know a man whose community didn't have electricity until 1954.

Patience, Bobert. They all eventually got it. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 12:58 AM

The major complaint with Wild Blue seems to center around their "Fair Access Policy" (FAP). Each service level entails a maximum allowable amount of data per month that can be downloaded and uploaded. If a customer goes beyond that amount his service is slowed down to something equivalent to a slow dial-up connection. This is known as "getting fapped".

The major bones of contention seem to be: (1) Customers don't have access to up-to-the-minute usage data so they can get fapped unexpectedly. (2) Once one has been fapped and done the required amount of penance, it sometimes takes several calls to customer service to get them to "flip the switch" back to sattelite speed.

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:38 PM

On the table I linked to above the critical number is the download number. The upload half of the conversation only carries enough traffic to send out requests for HTTP pages, or e-mail, lightweight mostly. For example those folks typically will commit to providing 1 to 2 Megs downlink and 128-256K uplink depending on which service plan you pay for.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: open mike
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 11:03 PM

i settled on wild blue -- out here in the country the only wires that
run out here are barbed wires! we don't need no stinkin' DSL cable.

and won't get it for ages, any way...

i found 3 main providers...Wild Blue..Hughes--thru Direct t.v. (D.T.V.) Directway..and Starband.

the wild blue service here is carried by Got Sky.

it is amazing to have over 100 KBS... not maga bytes but Kilo bytes..

compared to 14.4 or 28.8 when i was lucky before.

if you want me to refer you to them, we could both get a discount,
i think!
if so pm me with your e-mail addy.

Laurel

i now do not need the extra phone line....and can unplug that..
our lines here are so ancient...PAR GAin..can't even get caller I.D.

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 09:48 PM

Esarthlink won't do much for you over a twisted-pair POTS line -- unless they have a DSK service. Sometimes that solves th eproblem, but not as well as a good redundant sat dish uplink will do.


A

See this page for samples of uplink and downlink speed.

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 09:33 PM

Nah, Amos... They ain't got no cable back here in the holler... You gotta rememberate that I is way back in the holler...

Well, art-b, we have earthlink... That is my innernet serice provider but when I complain 'bout my lack of innernet access they tell be to find a satilite provider???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 09:22 PM

Do you get cable service? If so you can probably get broadband through your cable provider. If not, satellite broadband is perfectly workable. If you can afford it you might want to get two dishes instead of just one, to provide you with fail-safe redundancy. There are some locations where you can tap into a microwave relay series, but they are rare.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: artbrooks
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 08:58 PM

Bobert, while they are not without warts (who is?) Earthlink might be able to link you up in South Gawdawful. Don't cost nuthin' to check 'em out.

Subject: RE: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 08:56 PM

Dang it Bobert - for a moment there, I thought you had joined the foil hat brigade .... what with them damn saterlites being hacked and all :-)

I run at 5Kbs per less, both at home and here at a friends place - makes Linux updates a bit painful...


Can't advise about your local providers, but Broadband here is still not really 'affordable'.


"email that had 3 lusy danged piccures"

The best quick advice is to use an image edit prog to chop down the filesizes of those pics... unless you want to paste up billboard size photos in high res...

Some 'sattellite connections' used to still use a dialup to SEND info, so unless you have an 'uplink' you can't send stuff to the sattellite - their advantage was a high DOWNLOAD speed - from the eye in the sky...   

So I don't know how much extra speed access you would get in trying to SEND large emails.

Subject: BS: Satalitte Innernet Qusetion???
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Aug 07 - 08:44 PM

Grrrrrrr!!! I have had it with my pes-shooter dial up service provider... It is a joke... How many of you Catfolk are having to deal with like, ahhhhhh, 12 Kbps or less??? Prolly none...

I've had it!!!

I tired to forward an email that had 3 lusy danged piccures in in and it took literally hours...


....so I said to myself, "Self, this sucks... You gotta move on to the millenium and thus...

...satillite innernet...

I've read up on Wild Blue and it sounds purdy okay from what I 've learnt but...

...anyone have any other ideas, other that shootin' myself or my computer or both???

Bobert