Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: SINSULL Date: 30 Jul 09 - 08:03 AM The one time I was hit hard with flu, I could not get out of bed never mind out of the house. IF this one mutates into something nasty, we could be in for it. The news media thrives of IF. I am amazed at the people who are running to volunteer themselves and their children to test the new vaccine. Why the hell would you expose your children to an untested drug that is actually being tested for side effects? There was a report yesterday about putting pregnant women at the head of the list for getting the vaccine once it is tested. There is a death rate with this flu that is 13 times higher than normal flu. One of the epidemiologists was complaining that patients' doctors are the biggest obstacle to innoculation (birth defects, maybe) and how birth defects and miscarriages will be blamed on the vaccine when "maybe" it had nothing to do with it. The vaccine fiasco in the 70s followed by no epidemic makes me wary. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Liz the Squeak Date: 30 Jul 09 - 07:52 AM I'm better today - and went to work.. whereupon they sent me home because I cannot confirm I DIDN'T have swine flu... because I didn't feel sick enough to burden my already overworked doctor or local hospital with yet another query. LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Penny S. Date: 30 Jul 09 - 03:33 AM What has bothered me is the comparison with the times I've ben ill - often worse - in the past, when I've managed to go out and buy food, not having enough of the food I feel like eating. Have I then passed on various flu versions which have added to the toll of people with underlying conditions getting very much worse then? It's difficult living alone at these times. Penny |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 29 Jul 09 - 10:02 PM Australia - 17th July The national death toll now stands at 31, with 14 reported in Victoria, 10 in New South Wales, two each in the Northern Territory and South Australia, and one each in Queensland, Tasmania and Western Australia. The latest count also shows 191 people diagnosed with swine flu in hospitals across the country, 74 of them in in intensive care units. Most of the deaths were people with "underlying conditions" |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Severn Date: 29 Jul 09 - 09:09 PM Let's all sing "Auld Lang Swine" and be done with it all! I was having a Burns Night anyway..... Let someone else be toasted. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 29 Jul 09 - 07:29 PM The thing is, even if it's a relatively mild type of flu (which appears to be the case), and only one in a thousands were likely to really seriously affected, if at the same time its very infectious (which also appears to be the case) and say 20 million people get it, that's 20,000 people really seriously ill. And of course a hell of a lpt of people in urgent public services off sick at the same time. So it's silly to get particularly worried about it for ourselves and our family, but at the same time it's liable to be pretty disruptive, and a major problem for the National Health Service. And there'll be a good many people dying - a very low percentage of those going down with the flu, but big absolute figures. Thank God (and Nye Bevan) we've got a National Health Service anyway. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 29 Jul 09 - 03:50 PM I think the hysteria over this flu has been hyped way out of control by media. Whatalota bunk. My fella went down with it for a week, is still a bit snotty, but back at work now. I had a few sneezes, but seemed to get away with not much more than that. What's the UK death toll "skyrocketed" to now? Does it match annual death toll by choking on small fish-bones yet? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Penny S. Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:54 PM I couldn't believe Liz and I were the only ones. I'm not bothering to tell anyone. Just avoiding passing it on. Penny |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Mrrzy Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:52 PM One of my twins was sick at camp, head cold with fever (which seems to be the basic symptoms, right?), and the week after he got back, down went the other one with a head cold and fever. I didn't get it, and that was several weeks ago, so I think I missed this one, yet I wonder if I should have them checked... they're fine now, but if it was it that ought to be documented, no? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Penny S. Date: 29 Jul 09 - 01:47 PM Wondered how you were coping with boredom! I am in the middle of packing my books away, and the only ones available are the serious reference ones. A good neighbour is getting my paper, and not collecting the money, and I have a Kakuro book and knitting. Penny |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Liz the Squeak Date: 29 Jul 09 - 11:45 AM Actually, I have got away with mild case of it... am much better today, temp is about normal but I'm still achey and tired... but have progressed from trashy Sci Fi novels to classical adventure literature and getting my own chocolate. LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Severn Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:51 PM You'll be dragon-ass all through next year..... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:48 PM You could read up on how to play "Squeak Piggy Squeak" while you are in purdah, Liz. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: gnu Date: 28 Jul 09 - 04:59 PM Only if you dragon it, Giok. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: VirginiaTam Date: 28 Jul 09 - 04:58 PM A little alternative medicine pedantry comin at ya. 2009 is year of the Ox. 2008 year of Rat. 2007 year of pig or more accurately Boar. So the there is no correlation of Chinese calendar animals to names given to illness. For example mixamatosis outbreak was in 2007 and 2008, neither of which were year of rabbit. Now don't we all feel better knowing this? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Jul 09 - 04:47 PM Puff Flu? Honalee Flu? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Liz the Squeak Date: 28 Jul 09 - 01:36 PM Someone on the radio was pointing out the correlation between the Chinese year and the strain of flu - the year of the Rooster had Bird Flu, the year of the Pig has brought Swine flu.... what the hell is the next year of the Dragon going to bring?! Am much improved after a good sleep. If it is Swine, I think I got away with a mild case of it. Frankly I'd rather have a case of mild. LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: gnu Date: 28 Jul 09 - 01:30 PM You think there are potential problems with the porcine flu strain? Well! You just wait for the outbreak of the porcupine flu. You'll be on pins and needles. It'll drive you up a tree. You'll be up all night. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: VirginiaTam Date: 28 Jul 09 - 01:05 PM eat garlic. dem bugs really hate it. get well sooner!!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: My guru always said Date: 28 Jul 09 - 11:42 AM Hope you feel better soon Honey, recommend hot toddies! Had mine a few weeks ago & although it was mild, it's taken a couple of weeks to recover. Take it easy Girlie! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Severn Date: 28 Jul 09 - 10:12 AM So getting thoroughly "sows'd" cures Porcine Plague? Then there's the cure by a diet of fish and pickles, better known as "'Porky & Bass', by Gherkin" There's always the "Smithfield Cure" for it all. It involves you slowly cooking over hickory smoke. It works for ham and bacon related matters over here, but as a burn victim myself, I only recommend it if all else fails. I'd double check your chart if I knew where it was, but some little piggy went to mark it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Catherine Jayne Date: 28 Jul 09 - 08:40 AM Awww bless some of those pics were so cute. Now for a bacon buttie!! *G* |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: John MacKenzie Date: 28 Jul 09 - 07:55 AM Cheer up Sqeaker. John |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Catherine Jayne Date: 28 Jul 09 - 07:37 AM Hope you are feeling better soon Liz...in time for your holiday! Love Khatt and Paul xxx |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Penny S. Date: 28 Jul 09 - 07:00 AM All the best, Liz. Mine is very mild, but I'm quarantining myself because of risks to others. My nephew has diabetes, for instance. I don't actually have a temperature (according to the thermometers), so it may not be it at all, but my head keeps getting swimmy, my throat is tender, and I'm coughing. Penny |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Leadfingers Date: 28 Jul 09 - 06:33 AM Get Well Soon Liz ! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: maeve Date: 28 Jul 09 - 06:30 AM Feel better soon, Liz. A porcine lullaby for Liz maeve |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: bfdk Date: 28 Jul 09 - 06:23 AM I'm frankly amazed at the length you'll go to to wriggle out of the family holidays.. Get well soon! Bente |
Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Will Fly Date: 28 Jul 09 - 06:12 AM Warm drinks, plenty of fluids, painkillers, rest - and warm wishes that you feel better very soon. Kissie kissie... (from a dustance, of course) |
Subject: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward/Porcine Plague Unit From: Liz the Squeak Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:46 AM Thought I'd open this up for a while... I think I need it! I woke up with a headache that has spread all the way down... so I'm quarantining myself. Oink. So far, no curly tail or damp snouts, nor a penchant for acorns and truffles (except the chocolate ones that are in the fridge), but I feel it's a matter of time. So... sorry if I've infected you, I blame Manitas who was 'unwell' last week and blamed his hay fever. Oink. LTS |