BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jan 10 - 05:24 PM

Good evening, Mr. Robertson. You rang?

CLICKY.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jan 10 - 04:12 PM

Well, I'd say that if there is an afterlife, and it includes a heaven and a hell as weanies like Pat Robertson seem to think, they're going to get a nasty surprise when the first thing that greets them after they shuffle off this mortal coil is not a view of the Pearly Gates with St. Peter handing them the registry book, but a very warm, dark place with a strong whiff of sulfur in the atmosphere, and Charon, the boatman, waiting to ferry them across the Styx.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Jan 10 - 11:59 AM

Scanning the radio dial the other day, I caught two sentences being uttered by Rush Limbaugh. "I already give assistance to Haiti. It's call income tax." This is the God-fearing Right wing, correct? From what I'm hearing, if there is a God, they are wise to be afraid of Him.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Genie
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 08:29 PM

Gotta wonder what % of donations to Haitian relief via Robertson's organizations go to "overhead" and just what sorts of things are included in that "overhead." Robertson didn't accumulate a billion $ "net worth" by serving as a mere conduit for charitable donations to make their way to those in need (of either physical or spiritual salvation).

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: olddude
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 09:13 AM

pardon my outburst but I cannot take this, the son of a bitch was on TV this morning taking donations for his ministry for Haiti relief.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Genie
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 01:58 AM

Alanabit, are you sure?
I mean, how can we who do not know "the reverend" know his heart and soul?

I'm inclined to believe that Robertson has (conveniently) deluded himself into believing his own tripe about whom God favors or "smites" and why.   But he might, alternatively, be just another guy sort of drunk on his own power, wealth and influence. Maybe enough to have "made a deal with the Devil" without - consciously - recognizing that he was doing so.

"Satan," of course, can take many incarnate forms.   Fat cat corporate bigwigs, for example, aiding in the somewhat convenient though oxymoronic merging of socially conservative & religious populism with the interests of big multinational business and the military-industrial-energy complex.   Robertson would hardly be alone in falling for such a disguise.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 07:50 PM

Northern Sun used to have the lesbian quote on bumper stickers, etc., but I cannot find it there, now. They do have some classics! Here is a new one, I"d not seen before: Click.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: mousethief
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 03:08 PM

"I know it isn't funny but that diatribe has always made me laugh- the way it ends is so ludicrous. Those are busy women. lol "

I have seen bumper stickers that say "Sorry I haven't been in church, I was busy ...." and then finished up with all those things. I had no idea the source was a quote by ol' Pat. Most wondrously delicious!

O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 03:04 PM

Oh, is that the reason? Poor guy. I hear that after a certain point it is non-treatable; death becomes a blessing.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: John P
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 03:02 PM

C'mon, everyone, stop picking on Pat Robertson. He has a very serious medical condition called 'cranio-rectal inversion' that makes him say things like this. Be kind!

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 02:53 PM

It is funny, Ebbie — it's bloody hilarious!!! — cast me a spell, will you, please — there's a duck! & then don't hang about, off with you quickly and become a lesbian...

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 02:31 PM

"(T)he feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." –Pat Robertson

I know it isn't funny but that diatribe has always made me laugh- the way it ends is so ludicrous. Those are busy women. lol

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: olddude
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 01:44 PM

RUBBER NUTS DOESN'T GET IT, he never will but he sure enjoys the money. I guess he forgot "that which you do to the least of my brothers, you do to me"

He should try reading it sometime

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 01:26 PM

From HERE, Robertson's 10 stupidest comments (what bothers me is there ARE people who take his word for "gospel:")

10. "Lord, give us righteous judges who will not try to legislate and dominate this society. Take control, Lord! We ask for additional vacancies on the court." –Pat Robertson

9. "Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history." –Pat Robertson

8. "I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." –Pat Robertson, on "gay days" at Disneyworld

7. "(T)he feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." –Pat Robertson

6. "I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period." –Pat Robertson

5. "I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there." --Pat Robertson, after the city of Dover, Pennsylvania voted to boot the current school board, which instituted an intelligent design policy that led to a federal trial

4. "God considers this land to be his. You read the Bible and he says 'This is my land,' and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, 'No, this is mine.' ... He was dividing God's land. And I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the E.U., the United Nations, or the United States of America.' God says, 'This land belongs to me. You better leave it alone.'" --Pat Robertson, on why Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon suffered a massive stroke

3. "Maybe we need a very small nuke thrown off on Foggy Bottom to shake things up" –Pat Robertson, on nuking the State Department

2. "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with." –Pat Robertson, calling for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez

1. "It may be a blessing in disguise. ... Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. Haitians were originally under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon the third, or whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, we will serve you if you will get us free from the French. True story. And so, the devil said, okay it's a deal. Ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other." –Pat Robertson, on the earthquake in Haiti that destroyed the capital and killed tens of thousands of people, Jan. 13, 2010

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 12:59 PM

What Donuel wrote about Regent University, or at least one of its alumni and her attitudes to employment, gave me pause for a moment; one more example of "Christian Fundamentalism" exerting its power in USA (I remember one BBC Journalist, posted to America, commenting on how he often saw politicians carrying Bibles under their arms in White House or Capitol; not inconceivable in Britain, but unlikely). Although the "Religious Right [Wing]" in this country, UK, don't have the same kind of institutional power, isn't there a certain similarity in the kind of exclusion mentioned by Donuel and the way so many important posts in the Law, etc., are occupied by the English Public Schoolboys and Boarding-School Misses who form only about 5% of the population? Perhaps, in requiring the kind of explicit undertaking she does, Monica Gooding is simply being more honest in ensuring she employs "the Right Sort of Person" than many in this country. Either way, the rhetoric of Equal Opportunity is being more and more exposed as false.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: mousethief
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 12:58 PM

And your alternative Greg? You obviously didn't read THAT part of my post. I'll overlook your gleeful yet overblown description of religion, which looks at it (surprise! surprise!) entirely from without and not from within. Just tell me what atheism has to offer to the broken-hearted and downtrodden.

Tug, "Even at a conservative estimate, the death toll is greater than that of Stalin, Hitler and, of course Pol Pot."

Do you have a source for this? I'm not even sure there were as many people alive then as were killed by Stalin (up to 50 mil), Mao (up to 35 mil), and Pol Pot (numbers not to hand).

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 12:39 PM

Ebbie, I only used the word exterminated with regard to the Cathars, and that is accurate......burned in a great fire, many leaping in rather than be captured. genocide doesn't mean total extermination, and most authorities accept it with regard to the people's I have mentioned.
Even at a conservative estimate, the death toll is greater than that of Stalin, Hitler and, of course Pol Pot.
Allof that is beside the point.....because someone is more evil than you, it does not justify or condone your own evil.I reject the justifications of the 'communist' ideologues, as well as those of the Missionaries and associated armies.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 12:09 PM

Tug the Cox, you're sweeping with too broad a broom. Most of those people have NOT been exterminated.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 12:00 PM

People turn to religion because it helps them deal with reality...

by replacing it with un-reality and irrationality and the inability to think critically.

Sounds good to me! That'll save the world. Halapeño, Brother!

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 11:38 AM

Hence Hitler, Mao, Stalin--who have been responsible for more deaths than anybody in history

Well apart from the genocide of the mayas Inca's etc in latin America, the native peoples of North America, the Aborigines in Australia, the peoples of the southern islands etc all wiped out by a mixture of slaughter and disease, all with Misionaries standing nearby. Don't even mention the various Inquisitions, the extermination of the Cathars, centuries of religious wars...all, as Dylan reminded us, 'with God on our side'

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Ron Davies
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 10:38 AM

"....more deaths than anybody else..."

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Beer
Date: 18 Jan 10 - 08:59 AM

Thanks Genie for the post.

Rubber room, padded cell. We called them seclusion rooms where I worked. They were much the same but no padding. That only came much later when when patients rights came into light.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 11:57 PM

Not me. Although they're interesting and instructive stories.

O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Ron Davies
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 11:50 PM

mousethief has it right:   "helps them deal with reality"

In addition, atheism makes it very easy for the "leader" to be the God-substitute.   Makes it a bit difficult to criticize the leader--in anything.

Hence Hitler, Mao, Stalin--who have been responsible for more deaths than anybody in history. Please don't bother with Sodom, The Flood, etc--which I suspect most educated people--possibly including Mudcatters--don't take seriously.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:38 PM

"Religions that help people overcome thier fear of change are doing good work."

"Which is exactly what Pat Robertson thinks he's doing. "

What on earth makes you think that? He's not helping people overcome their fear of change. He's whipping them up using their fear of change as a touchstone, and getting rich doing it. If he helped people overcome their fear of change he'd lose his meal ticket. He doesn't want to remove their fear of change but exacerbate it. Fear is his stock-in-trade.

"The world would be a better place if people would simply deal with reality. "

And how do you propose to help them do that? Reality sucks for a lot of people. Simply telling them, "Deal with reality!" isn't going to help them do so. Go tell some 18yo single mother to "deal with reality". Go tell some 54yo man who hasn't found a job in a year of looking to "deal with reality."

People turn to religion because it helps them deal with reality. Atheism can offer nothing to take its place.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Riginslinger
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 09:37 PM

"Religions that help people overcome thier fear of change are doing good work."

             Which is exactly what Pat Robertson thinks he's doing. The world would be a better place if people would simply deal with reality.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 07:48 PM

Yep, that Jew was wise indeed, until it came time to get a good lawyer.

The retelling of his insight by rich meglomaniacs, avaricious pious preachers and institutions does warp the message a bit.
Religion is under some new management or new brand name every generation.
But that is no reason to fear change. Religions that help people overcome thier fear of change are doing good work.

in my humble opinion.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Folkiedave
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 07:41 PM

The frightening thing is he only believes in one more God than me.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: kendall
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 07:33 PM

If you tell people what they want to hear they will follow you anywhere.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 07:05 PM

A lot of other things JC didn't say, great song from Martyn Joseph....

He never said God helps those who help themselves

He never said Blessed are the rich

He never said Do unto others before they do it unto you

He never said Its too bad buddy the winner has to take it all

He never said success is the key

You gotta be cruel to be kind

And he never said it's a jungle out there

Where the weak must get left behind

He Said..


Answer a strangers cry for help

Love your brother as you loved yourself

You only have to seek and you will find

Forgive your enemies drop that grudge

Don't judge others and you won't be judged

Only knock and the door will open wide, open wide


He never said Archbishops should stick to theology

He never said put your faith in the lottery

He never said by any means necessary

He never said my country right or wrong

He never said send your money to me

Touch the screen and your gonna be healed

He never said every man's got a price

Do you want to make a deal?


Answer a strangers cry for help

Love your brother as you loved yourself

You only have to seek and you will find

Forgive your enemies drop that grudge

Don't judge others and you won't be judged

Only knock and the door will open wide, open wide


And on that day a day that's coming

Who's gonna be walking who's gonna be running

The first will be the last and the last will come first

If the meek inherit the earth


Answer a strangers cry for help

Love your brother as you loved yourself…etc
[ He Never Said Lyrics on http://www.lyricsmania.com/ ]

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:58 PM

"With Liberty and Justice for all."

Robertson's Law School teaches a peculiar form of Justice.
Exclusive Justice. Or as we know it, justice for Just Us.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:57 PM

Regarding Pat Robertson, if I wanted to listen to an asshole I'd fart.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:52 PM

Wow the devil has a rather hip dialect.


Don't forget another graduate from Regent, Monica Goodling of the Justice department who actively excluded any employees who would not sign a loyalty oath to Bush or if the applicant was suspected of being a Democrat, gay, athiest, supporting of having an abortion or a non Christian.

What a gal. Christian to the core.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:10 PM

Pat Robertson founded Regent University, a "christian" institution.
A graduate, Bob McDonnell, is governor of Virginia.

About 4500 students call it alma mater. It has a large school of government and law. The main campus is in Virginia Beach, with a small one in Alexandria, VA (suberb of Washington, DC).

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:05 PM

Sorry for the blank!
It would be my hope that thinking people divert the funds that they send to this hypocritical arsehole to Haitian relief!

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:02 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Ebbie
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:00 PM

He allegedly also once said this:

"In 1995, Pat Robertson said that gay Americans "want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."


I wonder whether the people who still follow him are aware of his beyond the pale reasoning and speechifying? If my mother were still alive I would love to ask her. Bitter? Naw.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Lighter
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 05:49 PM

Yeah, but he's a Yale graduate. Like the two guys who ran for president in 2004. Doesn't that mean something?

Boola boola!

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 05:46 PM

Keep in mind that when Katrina was bearing down on New Orleans, Patty boy said they deserved it because of the French Quarter -- which ironically was the place that suffered most lightly from the hit. When a different hurricane was bearing down on Orlando, FL, he said they deserved it because Disney Inc. had given domestic partner health etc. benefits to same-sex domestic partners of employees. As I recall, it veered and missed Orlando entirely.

He's a nasty old man and deserves nothing more than to be ignored.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Genie
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 05:03 PM

Yeah, Don.

That, plus maybe a little extra special help?

Satan says, "when I strike bargains with people, they first get something here on earth -- glamour, beauty, talent, wealth, fame, glory, a golden fiddle."   Throw out "glamour, beauty, talent" and that "golden fiddle," and add "power and influence" to the "fame and glory" part, and one might well ask WHO REALLY made a pact with the Devil.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 04:41 PM

Pat Robertson is a medical phenonemon. He manages to live without a brain and his alimentary canal is in backwards.

(That accounts for a lot!)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 04:34 PM

"Religion is for weak minded fools"

Ditto for party politics, gambling, lotteries, shopaholicism, gossip, and drug abuse... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 04:20 PM

Rubber room? Whatever.

What shocks me is that peeps follow him and donate money... scarey, really.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: kendall
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 03:27 PM

"Religion is for weak minded fools" (Jesse Ventura)

I see it as just another form of superstition.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 03:23 PM

There appears to be one prominent devil-worshipper involved in this, whatever label he may choose to wear.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Genie
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 03:16 PM

And, of course, when you're a billionaire (especially when your "Christian ministry" made that happen), it's very easy to say that whatever happens to you is God's will.

As The Church Lady would say,
"How convieeeeeenient!"

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Genie
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 03:13 PM

JackTheSailor: "Christ did not say "Love thy neighbor except when he nationalizes the property thy oil companies store from peasants. If thy neighbor Nationalizes then smite him under cover of darkness."

Beautiful!!! LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 12:18 PM

Excellent letter. Thanks for posting it.

There is no end to how asinine the fundies can be. My ex-brother-in-law, who used to be a preacher, has recently told my ex that his own son (the preacher's) will not be going up in the "Rapture" as he has sinned by getting divorced etc. Of course we others are equally condemned. The ex-BIL also happens to be a federal employee working at a Veteran's Hospital in security with a gun on his hip. I hope he is alone when his rapture comes. No pun intended.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 11:39 AM

Of course, Bill — so have I. have you never noticed my name among the Feedbacks or Sics?

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 11:36 AM

Michael, if you have not already discovered it, the best place on the WWW for "inveterate linguistic inquisitiveness." is Michael Quinion's "World Wide Words"

I have subscribed to his weekly newsletter for years.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 11:05 AM

Bill & Alice - many thanks for that info; & also for indulging my inveterate linguistic inquisitiveness. (;-)§
Whichever, I agree that it sounds well as if your Mr Robertson belongs in one. whatever you choose to call it!

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 11:05 AM

"Fire and brimstone" preachers in Robertson's tradition give a lot of weight to the old testament.

I am very uncomfortable with Robertson's confidence in his own words. He claims to know God's will with regard to currents events but obviously his analysis departs from the narrative of the bible.

Yes the God of Genesis destroyed the world in a flood and destroyed Sodom for its sins, but in both cases, according to the narrative, he spared all of the "righteous" people in those places. Is Mr. Robertson saying that the missionaries in Haiti, and the Churches in New Orleans EVEN FROM HIS OWN DENOMINATION, were part of that pact with the devil, were part of the "sins" of New Orleans?

In the Old Testament collateral damage was not part of God's plan. Modern disasters are not God's retribution. And thank God for this, Pat Robertson is a silly TV host and not an Old Testament Prophet.

The things that Robertson said that disturbed me most. The thing that proved in my opinion that he was not a follower of Christ's teachings was his wish that the US murder Hugo Chavez.

Christ did not say "Love thy neighbor except when he nationalizes the property thy oil companies store from peasants. If thy neighbor Nationalizes then smite him under cover of darkness."

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:54 AM

Padded cell is the more common nomenclature here, also....Kendall just likes 'colorful' expressinons ☺


(Do remember, Pat Robertson is the one who, when a hurricane was threatening the East coast of the US a few years ago, asked his followers to go out en masse and pray hard that it would miss his headquarters in Virgina Beach...and, presumably, hit the heathens up the coast. I guess Pat has a special relationship with God, 'cause he's still blathering.)

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Alice
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:54 AM

We have padded cells, and people usually use the term "padded cell" rather than rubber room.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:45 AM

Sorry to drift a bit: but you know I can never resist following what appears to be an Anglo-US semantic variable, which I think is always worthwhile checking — so:-

Is your "rubber room" equivalent to what we call a "padded cell", as it seems it might be; or do you have 'padded cells' also, in which case how does a 'rubber room' differ? Just thought I'd ask.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: alanabit
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:21 AM

Fair enough Tug the Cox, but I believe that the Reverend Pat Robertson regards himself as a Christian.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Lighter
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:15 AM

Lisbon, 1755: Earthquake kills thousands at religious festival. City in ruins.

In Protestant England, it shows God's fury at Catholics.

In Catholic Portugal, it shows God's fury at insufficient persecution of Protestants.

Either way, proof of God's love.

And so it goes....

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:11 AM

Brilliant!

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 09:44 AM

Can't argue with Tug's assessment... This idea of an evil God that needs to be feared is what fundamentalism is all about... Their belief is that God makes everything happen... If that were so then why would He have flooded the Earth??? Huh??? Answer me that one, Rev. Robertson... I mean, if He had all this conttrol over everything He would have made better people... Right???

Nah, that is old school and Old Testament thinkin'... Ya' ever wonder why the fundamentalists preachers spend about 99% of the time preachin' from the Old Testament??? Hey, ain't they supposed to be, ahhhhh, "Christ"ians... Then where is Christ???

Nevermind...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Will Fly
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 09:25 AM

His parents should certainly have used one.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: kendall
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 09:22 AM

Pat Robertson belongs in a rubber room.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 09:01 AM

I do not know which bible Pat Robertson claims his authority from. However, the one I read did not portray Jesus as a vindictive bully.

The post referred to God, not Jesus, as the Bully. Now I don't know what your criteria are, but flooding the world and killing everyone apart from Noah's family, destroying Sodom and Gommorrah, turning Lot's wife into salt for having a peep, sending ten plagues to Egypt and killing all their first born, Making Abraham think he had to sacrifice his son, tormenting Job etc etc, all makes his creations in his own image, Stalin, Hitler, Bundy etc, look pretty tame.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Amergin
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:02 AM

"If I had a thing going with Haiti, there'd be lots of banks, skyscrapers, SUVs, exclusive night clubs, Botox --"

Remind anyone of any certain countries?

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 05:49 AM

Genie - good work for passing this brilliant letter on. Have clicked the link, and hope that folks will keep this thread at the top for awhile.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: alanabit
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 04:23 AM

I do not know which bible Pat Robertson claims his authority from. However, the one I read did not portray Jesus as a vindictive bully.

Subject: RE: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 02:17 AM

Thanks Genie, have passed it on.

Subject: BS: Devil's reply to Pat Robertson re Haiti
From: Genie
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 02:00 AM

Lily Coyle, of Minneapolis, sent this letter to the editors of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.   In case you've been living in a bubble shielded from our mass media, "the reverend" Pat Robertson pontificated on air about Haiti's troubles, including the recent catastrophic earthquake, being brought on by Haitians having "made a pact with the Devil" some centuries ago to get out from under the heel of French imperialism.

Do click the link, to give hits to the Star-Tribune and this letter, but I'm posting the letter here in case the link becomes defunct.

The "Devil" Writes Pat Robertson A Letter

"Dear Pat Robertson,

I know that you know that all press is good press, so I appreciate the shout-out. And you make God look like a big mean bully who kicks people when they are down, so I'm all over that action.
But when you say that Haiti has made a pact with me, it is totally humiliating. I may be evil incarnate, but I'm no welcher. The way you put it, making a deal with me leaves folks desperate and impoverished.
Sure, in the afterlife, but when I strike bargains with people, they first get something here on earth -- glamour, beauty, talent, wealth, fame, glory, a golden fiddle. Those Haitians have nothing, and I mean nothing. And that was before the earthquake. Haven't you seen "Crossroads"? Or "Damn Yankees"?
If I had a thing going with Haiti, there'd be lots of banks, skyscrapers, SUVs, exclusive night clubs, Botox -- that kind of thing. An 80 percent poverty rate is so not my style. Nothing against it -- I'm just saying: Not how I roll.
You're doing great work, Pat, and I don't want to clip your wings -- just, come on, you're making me look bad. And not the good kind of bad. Keep blaming God. That's working. But leave me out of it, please. Or we may need to renegotiate your own contract.
Best, Satan
LILY COYLE, MINNEAPOLIS"