BS: teeth pulling 101

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 19 Feb 10 - 12:37 PM

Thanks Doc, no I am 56, my kids use to call me old dude when i talk music with them they say "dad you are such an old dude hence"
I am sure you are right probably just happened ... oh well

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: GUEST,Doc John
Date: 19 Feb 10 - 12:31 PM

Sorry to hear that,olddude. We'll a tooth can be throbbing days after it's been removed; well, not the tooth see dry sockets above. I'm not sure how the next tooth was damaged during the extraction but, if it's going dark it's dead and an abcess may be forming now. Is there a big filling in it perhaps? If you're an very old olddude, you may have worn through to the nerve by enthusiastic brushing over 90 years or so.
Doc John

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 11:44 PM

I think I finally figured it out, didn't understand how a tooth can still be throbbing a week and a half after it was removed. The other side was fine in 2 days. Tonight I was digging around can I can see when he removed it, he damaged the one next to it right at the base and it is that one that throbs.. The thing is actually getting dark in color ... Crap .. more money .. ya know it is like putting gas in your car and just laying the pump on the ground ... now I have to call my regular dentist to fix this one and before sending me to the Oral surgeon she xrayed and filled everything that was a problem ... crap .. all nuts. I am not a happy man

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: frogprince
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 10:41 AM

MtheGM, I never heard of a "cruciverbalist", but I assume that that is someone who talks his way out of being nailed to a cross.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 10:24 AM

Lizzie
my doc is a walking computer virus, some people should not own a computer and my doc falls into that category.   About once a month I get Dan this @#$%$# computer of mine is doing @#$#% to which I respond, ok I will stop out. The last time, his cat was playing with the power cord and unplugged the monitor ... he is a disaster with them. I finally got tired of his virus issues and gave him a Linux notebook for his personal mail ... it has been a God send to me ... LOL

He is a brilliant and gifted surgeon who has me as a family practice patient but an absolute fool with technology. Now my dentist is this little old oriental lady, I get her laughing which is a mistake cause the last time she started to drill and forgot to numb me ... as I yelled she said, see don't get me laughing , I forgot to give you the shot... it is always my fault

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 05:01 AM

"Lizzie,
Can you talk with the dentist ahead of time and see if he can give Vi something to keep her calm? I always have to take Xanax before I go to the dentist. If you can't get medication, you might try brandy?"

Thank you for that thought, rags. Apparently there's a dental practice in Newton Abbot that deals with very nervous patients...

I think I'll probably need the brandy though, for coping with Vi's nerves on that day! ;0)


Dan, look on the bright side, all that Nuclear Testing could save you a fortune on energy bills come Saturday. You could be lighting up your house all on your own!

I loved your comment about your doctor having to fix his own computer! LOL

I have to have my regular check up next month, so keeps the teeth experience light and fluffy until April, if you could.. ;0)

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 02:29 AM

Just coincidence of how the threads fall on the menu sometimes: but I have just observed that 'Teeth Pulling 101' is currently followed by 'Torture In The Civilised World'.

Sometimes these thing seem 'meant' ~~ as a cruciverbalist, I am always delighted when I remember that SCHOOLMASTER and THE CLASSROOM are perfect anagrams.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: ragdall
Date: 18 Feb 10 - 01:28 AM

Charmion,
How did it go? These things are sure painful, aren't they?

Dan,
Good luck with the stress test. I think that the nuclear part is they will inject something radioactive into you and monitor that. The good part about it is that you'll glow in the dark afterwards ;) That will be a big hit when you perform.

Lizzie,
Can you talk with the dentist ahead of time and see if he can give Vi something to keep her calm? I always have to take Xanax before I go to the dentist. If you can't get medication, you might try brandy?

   rags

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 06:49 PM

thanks hon, got get a nuclear stress test on friday ... good grief doctors, I am fine, my pressure is perfect ... but my doc is a good friend and a worry wart cause if anything happened to me he would have to fix his computer by himself LOL ...I don't know what the nuke part is all about, maybe they toss me inside a nuclear reactor or something. LOL

I think I did it , I gave everyone a tooth ache ...gosh nothing like sharing the fun and the expense. Can't believe how darn expensive dentists are ...

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 06:40 PM

It's this thread, Dan...it's spreading the Ache!

Vi's got an abscess too now...on the antibiotics. Er..she's not been to the dentist for (wait for it) FIFTY years! Ohhhhh cripes!! She's going to have to go though, as this is the seoond time it's come up, but at 95 that's hard for her to get through..and she's totally terrified of dentists. Gulp!


I hope all went well today, dan...you take good care of yourself. x

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Charmion
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 06:32 PM

I, too, have a toothache and I'm just about sure there's an abscess down there -- I can feel the bulge of something hot and tender on the outer aspect of the gum right under the sore tooth.

At 0750 hours tomorrow morning, I'll be in the dentist's chair getting the bad news.

Bugger. It's gonna get expensive.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 06:19 PM

'..."I still can't watch that terrible scene where Laurence Olivier had his teeth drilled into without anaesthetic" ..

actually Lizzie, it was Sir Laurence doing the drilling. Dustin Hoffman was on the receiving end.

"The Boys from Brazil" IIRC'

Thought that was "Three Days of the Condor".

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 02:09 PM

Well I have a docs appointment at 3:30 today. the doc is one of my best friends. I had to go to the ER room over the weekend with chest pain (it was just chrons disease flareup) but my over cautious doc wants stress tests and a bunch of other things just to make sure it is not the pump acting up. I am going to have him look at the gums. I suspect I got an infection, they hurt way too much for over a week now and I tend to not feel pain as bad as others until it becomes a real problem. I will get it check. I am glad you are feeling a bit better rags .. gosh there is nothing worse, I have had a ton of bad things happen and a ton of surgeries but nothing hurts quite like a bad tooth.

Love Dan

Marathon Man ... hey Lizzie "Is it safe, is it safe" wow did that creep me out ...

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 16 Feb 10 - 01:43 PM

Marthon Man, that's the one, Dan! shudddddder!

Hope it all goes well, rags.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: ragdall
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 10:08 PM

Dan,
I'm sorry to hear that your gums are still sore after a week. Has anyone checked to make sure that there is no infection in the wounds? It must be awful that you can't use either side to eat and rest the other side.

I'm back home from the dentist, but my mouth is still frozen -- feels like heaven for that tooth to be numb after the pain I've experienced the past two days.

My dentist did the beginnings of a root canal which is supposed to release some of the pressure from the infection. I've been warned that it will still hurt, but the pain should be less each day. I have a two hour appointment, Friday, to finish the root canal and install a temporary filling, then an hour in April for the crown. Yes, April, he's busy, is my dentist, I feel so blessed that this happened on a week in which he has office hours and that he was able to fit me in. I wonder if he gave up his dinner break to do it? I hope not.

rags

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:44 PM

No the movie was "Marathon Man" and that drill scene gave me the creeps for weeks

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:30 PM

Oh rags I hope you feel better, boy I tell you it has been a week ago tomorrow and these dang gums still hurt like crazy ... I hate teeth, everytime i eat anything I rub them and it drives me nuts. They took out two teeth but they are on different sides so no matter what side i chew on, yup ouch ..

I feel for you my dear friend, I understand your pain for sure ...
gosh

Love Dan

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 07:24 PM

..."I still can't watch that terrible scene where Laurence Olivier had his teeth drilled into without anaesthetic" ..

actually Lizzie, it was Sir Laurence doing the drilling. Dustin Hoffman was on the receiving end.

"The Boys from Brazil" IIRC

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: ragdall
Date: 15 Feb 10 - 06:36 PM

Dan, I have a mouth full of fillings too. Most are 50 years old, although some have been replaced. I hope that your dry socket is no longer bothering you.

Right now I have the worst toothache I've ever had. It's been raging for about 24 hours. I couldn't sleep at all last night, waited until my dentist opened the office at 8 am and called. They couldn't get me in until 2:30. Very hard to wait when it hurts so much, not knowing for sure whether it's the tooth I think that it is or sinus pain mimicking a toothache, as had happened on several previous occasions.

They did an X-ray. It's the tooth, big abscess. The dentist gave me a script for penicillin, which I've started. I have to go back at 5:00pm for freezing then wait again for 45 minutes for the freezing to take effect. The dentist will open to relieve the pressure. At this point I'd gladly let him drill without the freezing, or pull the tooth, if it will stop the pain.

80 minutes to wait before I leave again. Trying to distract myself by posting here.

rags

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 05:21 AM

Anyway! Who would you cast for lead roles in Tooth Pulling 101 then?
Hospital Emergency Rooms (Casualty Department to me) weren't "Hollywood Sexy" until they stuck George Clooney in one.
Who do you think would do the job for dentistry?
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 12 Feb 10 - 04:05 AM

Oh, this thread makes me shiver! :0)

The first wisdom tooth I ever had out was horrendous. The dentist I had at that time had to drill into the bone..and said afterwards, between his apologies, that it should have been done in hospital under general anaesthetic. Later that night my throat swelled up alarmingly, my face turned green, black and blue and the pain...Oh! He came out in the middle of the night when my mum called him up, and wrote me a prescription for painkillers so strong that I was more than a little out of it for a few days..

Imagine my horror when, a few years later I had to have another one out, on the other side...One impacted wisdom tooth is more than enough for any lifetime. THIS time however, I was down in the West Country and was sent to the Royal Naval Hospital in Plymouth (no longer there now)...where all the doctors and nurses wore naval uniform and the place crackled with discipline and bravery...

Shake! Tremmor! SHIVER!!

I knew I had no option but to gird my loins and put on a brave face, or be laughed out of town...so I sat in the chair, gingerly...and in walked the lady dentist. She was neat, efficient and bloody wonderful! I was sat there with my mouth still open waiting for the horrors to start, my anxious hands hidden under my jersey, my frightened eyes screwed up tight...when she said "You can open your eyes now. It's all done and dusted."

I could have kissed her! :0)

So now, I have no wisdom teeth left. I only had 2, thank goodness. (no surprises there then!) ;0)

Whoever 'invented' teeth got it sooooooooooooo wrong!

Oh, and I've only ever toothache once in my life, and that pain was so bad that I literally couldn't sit down..So weird. I've never been so pleased to see a needle full of anaesthetic in my LIFE! :0) But that was cured by a filling..

Throb, throb, throb......

My children never had any fillings at all, still don't to this day, at 23 and 15, which I find amazing. They have no fear of the dentist whatsoever, as they've only ever known one lady, who is so kind and so gentle, deals with everything with a great sense of humour and calm...and she always has the radio on too, which is relaxing. I travel miles to go back to her..as she's so different from any dentist that's gone before.

I still can't watch that terrible scene where Laurence Olivier had his teeth drilled into without anaesthetic....can't recall the movie's name now, but shudder, shudder, shudder!

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 10:58 PM

lol that was great dean !!!

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: frogprince
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 10:37 PM

The Yanks are coming...

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 09:43 PM

Margaret
Thank you hon, so very kind of you ... and thanks Lizzie. I hate going to the dentist. Always something. I have a mouth full of fillings ... I like my chocolate too much I guess :-)

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: ragdall
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 07:26 PM

Hi Dan,
I hope that the salt water rinsing and packing will work for you to stop the pain and that the socket will heal over properly itself soon.

   hugs,
    rags

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 07:17 PM

LOL that was great Bruce ... Oh my gosh... Yup that is what happened

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:59 PM

Ouch, Dan.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 06:56 PM

Hope you're feeling a little better, Dan.

I can't bear going to the dentist...horrors from childhood come flooding back. Cripes...childhood loose teeth used to be pulled out with one end of a bit of cotton looped around the tooth itself, the other tied to the door handle...and......................BANG!

Makes my eyes water just thinking about it!

And all those dentists who used to fill all your teeth, when you were little, mainly 'cos they got paid for it. GRRRRRRR!

My dentist says that folks of my generation, and older, mostly dislike dentists because of those kind of memories.   

I don't envy you your pain..shudder!

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 03:39 PM

Hey Doc
I think you are right about "some people get them" I have had 3 teeth removed so far in my lifetime (counting these 2) every one
dry socket .. yikes. I have to stop gritting my teeth at night, I break them and sometime completely as in these two where my dentist can't save them ... awful

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 03:31 PM

Thanks Doc
I will give er a try for sure!!

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: GUEST,Doc John
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 02:22 PM

Dry sockets - really painful and unreasonably so. Usually lower teeth and usually molars. I'm afraid some people are prone to them - sorry! Avoid. Seems to be due to the blood clot in the socket being lost for some reason and the bare bone exposed. Treatment is simple though: wash out the socket and pack it with a witches' brew of some sort, which often works at once. Antibiotics are supposed to be inneffective but on the other hand they seem to work.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 02:07 PM

this guy was an oral surgeon, they were top in the back and now the regular dentists don't want to deal with top teeth, they make ya go to the oral surgeons who are a zillion times more expensive. the guy was quick and good. the after effects are not fun ... now after they heal I have to wait 3 months and get a bridge. Man that is going to be expensive ... Can't tell they are gone since they were in the back but chewing is no fun ... I hate teeth ..!!!

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Charmion
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 01:44 PM

I, too, had dramatic military dental surgery that I won't bore you with -- but it resulted in frostbite on nine of my 10 manual digits. The dentist I go to now is as good as BillD's, and young, too! It has taken a full decade of high-quality painless care at his expert hands to cure me of fang-related terror.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 01:24 PM

I had 4 wisdoms and 2 impacted molars (or 3 if you count the tooth tangled up in the roots) out at same time in my late 20s.

No dry socket and not able to use pain killer afterwards because I had small children to look after. I just kept ice packs on my face. Worked very well.   Did have great bruise on my chest because the dentist had to brace his knee on my chest to get the teeth out without pulling me out of the chair.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 11:47 AM

Just to offer a counter-example to all those stories, I have the world's best dental surgeon! I found him 30 years ago when I had a bad tooth, and in the last 3 years had to have 3 more done...(old age & such)...he was still working and had gotten better. He is near retirement now, and I may have the one other tooth done before this guy goes.

Even sent my wife to him, and she agrees!

We also have an excellent 'regular' dentist.

(oh...yeah...I do have a couple of old stories about dentists I didn't like much, but recent good stories have faded those.)

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 11:40 AM

I swear I must have like 3 teeth and they are all a foot long .. dang the pulling part wasn't bad but the hole they left behind with a straight pat to the nerve is special ... they said it is a dry socket, I asked what the heck does that mean. I guess it is after pulling if you lose the clot in the socket, ya got a direct route to the nerve that is still there. Brings tears to me eyes if i drink something hot or cold, or if I am awake or if I am sleeping or if I am doing nothing LOL

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 11:36 AM

I remember being held down by a receptionist and a nurse while the dentist drilled away with a slow speed drill and hit the nerve which simply would not be anaesthetized. Agony. Fast forward 40 years and my new dentist had the same problem. An xray showed that the nerve wasn't where it was supposed to be which was why multiple injections didn't work. Never again...

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: frogprince
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 10:44 AM

My baby teeth mostly, maybe always, came out at home. Heavy thread tied around, and a nice yank. I always heard lore about tying the thread to the doorknob and slamming the door, but dad just wrapped the thread around his fist and yanked.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 10:33 AM

My childhood dentist was part of the state of Illinois' health program. He pulled instead of filling because he made more money. He also didn't use anesthesia, because it cost him. He was later investigated, had his license yanked, and sent off for embezzling state funds.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 10:29 AM

Ah, tooth pulling horror stories. When I was about four I had an abscessed tooth that needed to be pulled. The novacaine or whatever they were using (circa 1953) didn't take. The dentist (now long deceased) wouldn't believe a four year old, so the tooth was yanked without benefit of any nerve deadener.

Fortunately, the body has no memory of pain.

(But 56 years later, I remember...)

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 10:23 AM

Dentist pulled the wrong tooth when I was in the Army. I had to have the right one pulled after I got out. It was kinda neat, though -- one of the self-righteous anti-everything types was pontificating to me about how awful it had been that I had been in the service immediately after the extraction. I faked a coughing fit and spat a big bloody one into the snow and said, "Damn, I've been doing that since I got back from Korea. They think it's not contagious anymore, though."

He never spoke to me again, which was no loss at all.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 10:01 AM

LOL I would have picked em up ...
when my buddie was in the military before being shipped out, they all stood in line for the dentist like an assembly line, they all got check, got their numbing shots and waited. Problem was, the took them in name order. My friend happens to be at the end of the alphabet. Well when he finally saw the dentist, the dentist proceeded to remove his tooth. Gary was yelling, the dentist said, what's the problem you had your shot, Gary said ya, 3 hours ago ... the doc pulled it anyway .. ouch

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 09:18 AM

Sure, he did, Sins! Make the Tooth Fairy come several times!

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 08:36 AM

My post disappeared.

That's gross. Ed. Did you pick them up and take them home?

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Ed T
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 08:28 AM

When I was a youngster, I lived in a small village with one dentist.
Problem was the dentist was an alcoholic.

I needed a tooth pulled....likely a baby tooth. My father made the arrangements. It involved finding the dentist and buying him a pint of rum to straighten him up. I recall seeing him take a few big swallows from the bottle before I say on his chair. After the tooth was pulled, I was asked to wait in the adjoining room....as my father paid for the tooth removal.In the waiting area, something I had in my hands fell to the floor. I reached down to pick it up near a chair. As I bent over, I saw five or six teeth under the chair, that were obviously removed from the mouth of other patients. The memory stayed with me.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 08:04 AM

GTD
naw , just the olddude complaining about teeth ... LOL

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 03:42 AM

So not the latest Medical Drama out of the USA to expect on Sky Telly then?
Quack! GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 02:02 AM

It's something to be avoided at all costs, is what I know of it! Commiserations!

Subject: BS: teeth pulling 101
From: olddude
Date: 11 Feb 10 - 12:49 AM

had to go to the dentist guy and have two back teeth yanked out
have ya ever heard of a thing afterwards called a "dry socket"
boy if that don't take the starch out of yer willy!! ... man that throbs!