Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 01:21 PM

I found myself surprised at liking both guys. I liked Lieberman's view on ANWR (the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge) much better than Cheney's, of course. His line, to paraphrase: ...conserving energy (via better gas mileage) is better than postulating 6 months of oil 10 years away- was succinct and convincing to me. Of course, I have a problem with invading something called a refuge in the first place.

It is my understanding that the oil in the 800-mile pipeline we have in place right now is not being used in the US but being sent to Japan and other points.

That said, I can imagine myself willingly falling in if the two men together led a parade.

I hope that the next presidential debate- on the 11th- will provide an opportunity for each of them to get down.

Ebbie

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 12:48 PM

You're right Catspaw. I think too much of the energy in politics is devoted to hatred of the opposition. I have talked to many who are not voting for Gore because of their hatred of Bill Clinton,for example.Or they aren't voting for Bush because David Letterman says he dumb. A lot of this is bred by the Rush Limbaughs of the world (and I mean demagogues on both left and right when I say that)who let personal vindictiveness get in the way of what's good for the country.

For crying out loud,isn't it time we judge candidates on what specific plans they have for the country,and on what leadership abilities they possess?I think the tendency for name calling is just a way of not having to think about the real reasons for making a rational decision. The nastiness degrades our country,and ourselves.

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 08:44 AM

Yeah, but Kendall, although he never answered the question on profiling, he gave an excellent preamble to it by saying he couldn't know what its like, etc.

I don't like Cheney's politics from past knowledge and JL is pretty conservative too........But the tone and tenor and ACTUAL ANSWERS in this debate was a breath of fresh air. Two professional men sat down and openly discussed their differences of opinion without innuendo, rancor, and name calling.

I too would find it easy to support a ticket with the two of them together. At least I'd feel we had two decent individuals representing us to the world. I'll vote Gore/Lieberman, but I honestly would like to see the same kind of "discussion" occur between Gore and Bush. Within the context of the format they were given, both of the VP candidates spoke to issues in whatever limited time was allowed and they held the Mickey Mouse to a minimum.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: kendall
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 08:19 AM

A bris is the ceremony of removeing the foreskin. I noticed that Cheney could not imagine what it is like to be black, and the victim of profiling. He was also caught when asked why he voted down a proposal to drill for oil in Montana, but, thought we should drill in Alaska. There was no way out for him on that one. A clear case of NIMBY

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 07:59 AM

Like others, I thought this debate was a breath of fresh air -- two intelligent, articulate, mature men discussing their different positions and intentions. Sure wish we could hear something like that from the two men at the top of the ticket.

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: DougR
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 01:36 AM

No Spaw, I wasn't inferring my man was the winner! Neither won in in my opinion, but maybe I just don't understand the nomenclature. "Bris"... I took that to mean that you thought Joe would clean Dick's plow. I was just pointing out I didn't think that happened.

What the hell is a bris?

DougR

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 12:20 AM

Hey Doug.....Did you read the thread or just post? Your man was not a winner. Nor was Lieberman. We won. Go back and read what I said.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 11:51 PM

I didn'tt see any cleaning going on, DougeR,*bg*, but I did hear a good and real debate and I wish to hell they could swap spots with their running mates and I also think it would be wonderful if we had a "co-presidency" and I wouldn't mind the two of them being the first to serve, although I'd rather see a woman in there and there is much about Cheney that I do not like from his time served in Wyoming.

Interesting and frustrating at the same time. Thosp, I feel about the same way.

kat

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: DougR
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 11:45 PM

Well, Spaw, don't know if you listened or not, but if you did, and still think Joe took Dick to the cleaners, you heard a different debate than I did. The one I listened to originated in Kentucky.

DougR

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: thosp
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 11:14 PM

ditto to spaws' & lejs' estimation ---- actually i was surprised by Cheney - i really like him -- i just wish his philosophy was different

peace (Y) thosp

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 11:11 PM

That's pretty much what I meant Leej. They stated the differences pretty clearly and without rancor or cheap shots. Both slid by on a few questions, but they pretty much spoke to the point and weren't afraid to state the differences.

I'd like to see Gore and Bush take a lesson here too.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 11:02 PM

Well,Spaw.The debate's over and all foreskins appear to be intact.

You could tell that both Lieberman and Cheney liked and respected one another. They articulated their respective positions much better than had Gore and Bush,and it made me realize perhaps it's better if neither individual is the clear winner,but that they make their views clear.I congratulate both men for doing so.

In addition,I liked both men.They reminded me of your two uncles- the gruff one with the good heart,and the kind,smiling one who would slip you a stick of doublemint gum on the sly.May the two main guys take a lesson from these two.

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 10:32 PM

Well..............

One thing kinda' strikes me real quick. Regardless of either's political beliefs or stance..........BOTH of these guys are a helluva lot more "Presidential" than either of their running mates. Could we swap positions on each ticket?

Spaw

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 07:38 PM

....so this guy was walking down the street when he sees a store window full of clocks & watches. "Hey", he says, "I've been meaning to get my old pocket watch repaired"...so in he goes.

"Hello", he says to the elderly Jewish gentleman who greets him.."I'd like you to take a look at my watch...it hasn't been running right."

"I'm sorry, I don't do that here", the proprietor replies.

"You don't? What do you do?"

"I'm a Moile, I do ritual bris ceremonies...circumcisions."

"Well, why in the world do you have a window full of watches & clocks?"

"So...?", shrugs the old gentleman,"What SHOULD I put in the window?"

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 06:44 PM

Thanks, Spaw, wasn't sure if anyone noticed that. It will be published in one or two papers this month. I had originally titled that op/ed "Dumbya - Poster Boy for the Dumbing Down of America" but decided against it.

Just realised this is the same time as Mbo's concert and the tv and computer are about as far away from one another as one can get in this house. Guess I'll have to go make my apologies.

kat

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 06:38 PM

As my Grampaw used to say,Spaw,don't count your foreskins before they're excised.

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 06:20 PM

Damn.....The more I think about it, the more I wish I had titled this:

A BRIS IN THE BLUEGRASS???

Dontcha' hate it when you think of stuff too late?

Spaw

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 03:56 PM

You have two ears Ebbie, so tune in to both!!!

I think Joe may perform a bris on the Dick so I hate to miss the debate.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 03:29 PM

Sinsull- first I have to apologize for my HUGE thread creep above. And here goes again: Eminem, whom I had only heard references to, is a rapper who gives rappers a bad name.

Ebbie

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 03:11 PM

Who is Eminem? And don't forget Mbo's do. Somebody found a calculator for ole GW. He was on TV this morning, smarmy grim firmly reinstated, boasting about how his numbers prove Gore's numbers were wrong. Not fuzzy, mind you, wrong! He looked like the smartest kid in the ungraded class. Someone needs to break it to him that the debate is over. Better luck next time, George.

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 02:56 PM

I'm looking forward to the debate. I'm house-sitting these 10 days so I have access to a TV. Great timing. (On the other hand, is everyone aware of what CRAP is out there? AAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHH... The other night I listened and watched a few minutes of Eminem. Can you believe the man?? And I had taken it for granted E was a black guy so that my first sight of this shaven-headed white guy grasping his crotch I thought was a prelude to the real thing.)

"Dumbya" is goodkat.

Ebbie

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 02:53 PM

Programs,get yer programs!

Yep,I'll be watching.

Subject: RE: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 02:43 PM

Ooh, I like Dumbya. I came up with a great spoonerism the other night, can't believe this isn't in the media - Bat Pukannon. Isn't that perfect?

Anyway, yes, I'll be watching too. This is going to be interesting, indeed.

Subject: Feudin' in the Bluegrass-VP DEBATE 10/5
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 01:51 PM

Yes friends, from Boyle County Kentucky, the heart of the Bluegrass, where Liz Taylor and Monty Clift filmed "Raintree County" ..........Tonight in Danville we will have the one and only VP debate of the campaign.

While they say that no one votes for a VP, I think this will be perhaps the most interesting of the debates.........and then again, I could be wrong. I'll be watching though because although Gore and Dumbya(like that kat) may be different persona, Lieberman and Cheney strike me as VERY different types in terms of personality. I'll be anxious to see and hear them together.

Spaw