BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Cluin
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 08:24 PM

"Me and the boys thought we had it sussed
Valentinos, all of us
My dad said we looked ridiculous
But, boy, we broke some hearts..."
       ~ Rod Stewart,
      I Was Only Joking

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 06:06 PM

The kids today look ridiculous. Kinda reminds me of what I looked like as a kid. Different, but the same.

I teach children who have pierced body parts, different hairstyles at least once a week, colours of hair I can't name (I'm a guy), and ya know what? I compliment every single one of them at least twice a week. Because, if ya can't find something good to say about kids, you'll never find anything good to say about anyone.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 06:03 PM

I'm glad I don't live in your shallow little world SF

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 06:00 PM

Nope, in days when twats wore flowered jackets and dyed their hair pink, when they were 'hip man' and 'scored' - jez knows what it was that they got - I avoided them, my age 17. Yes and some of them did come up and beg ' 'givustenbob wack'.

Todays slobos have earings in their nose, shirt pins in their eyebrows, something in their mouth, and for all I know a bull-ring in their arse, yet its the same old begging game. Today the hook is like ' can you spare a dollar'; 'sure' says I, and add, 'but I am sparing it for poor person in my house...ME.. so (expletive function here) off and get a life'.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 05:06 PM

careful with that 'joke' JP

It's an antique....

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Justa Picker
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 04:12 PM

If I had ever dated a woman with multiple eye brow piercings,
at the end of the date I would have a big problem deciding on
whether to kiss her good-night, or, hang a shower curtain on her. 8-)

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 01:47 PM

Sorry? Is this a serious thread? I must have got the wrong end of the stick again...

:D

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 12:04 PM

" I may talk to the guy with 40 spikes implanted in his forehead while waiting in a checkout line, but I'm likely to avoid the guy in a suit who's screaming at the clerk."

Abso-frigg'n-lootly!

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 11:59 AM

"Judging people by outward appearance is a form of bigotry but what else do we have to go by at this stage?"

Nothing. I usually try to avoid conclusions until I have further information. I actually agree with Clinton on this one.

When I was a teenager, I gave my mother hell for making fun of a kid with long hair. I said something like "You don't know anything about that kid. You probably wouldn't make fun of him if he lived down the street, and you knew him. AND you're always telling me "don't judge a book by it's cover" and "beauty's only skin deep" and stuff like that. (I was a pretty homely kid.) I can't remember how much later it was - the same day or the next - when my mom told me I'd been right.

I try to remember that and catch myself when I make judgements about people based on outward appearance. I do a lot of things other people think is stupid as a result: smiling and saying 'hi' to bikers, outside a restaurant (when my friends were saying "Jeez Jeri - don't talk to that guy...he looks dangerous), approaching a bunch of young black men in tough-guy clothing just hanging out in a 'bad part of town' to ask directions (they made a huge effort to help me, but were maybe thinking 'doesn't she know that's a bad thing to do?'). I was told once in an airport not to trust people who want to help me carry my luggage. People here are generally bad, and will steal it. This came from a guy who was helping me carry my luggage.

Have I ever had occasion to regret giving people the benefit of the doubt? Never - at least not yet. I DO avoid people who are acting noticibly batshit most of the time. In other words, I may talk to the guy with 40 spikes implanted in his forehead while waiting in a checkout line, but I'm likely to avoid the guy in a suit who's screaming at the clerk.

People may wear clothes or get piercings because it how they want to appear, but underneath the 'uniform', they're just people. I think we need to know more than just what they look like in order to come to any sort of conclusions about them.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 11:41 AM

"I can take the piss out of me and my peer group - Why not others:-)"

Well, as long as you hate equally then! LOL

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 11:39 AM

How is one really much different from the other

Exactly! I can take the piss out of me and my peer group - Why not others:-)

And what else can I revel in apart from short comings. I am a gnome after all...

Cheers

:D

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 11:34 AM

To revel in your short-comings is worse Dave...

I have too many friends with body peircings, and tatts, and droopy clothes or whatever... some of them even listen to rap...

It's just clothes... or whatever...

You stand there in a big stupid beard, and a cable knit sweater, reaking of patchouli that you've had on since 1967, singing silly old songs that glorify a past that never really existed... and they stand there in their mock prison gear, and their bling, tatted-up so that their own mothers don't recognise them, singing silly new songs about a world that doesn't really exist...

How is one really much different from the other

People are just people...

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 11:23 AM

Casting dispersions:-) Nice one Clinton - I'll use it instead of casting nasturtiums in future!

Judging people by outward appearance is a form of bigotry but what else do we have to go by at this stage? We are not judging by colour or facial appearance but by the choices that people have made. If someone makes the choice to dress in shorts and a t-shirt when there is a foot of snow on the ground I think my conclusion might be that they are more concerned with appearance than with their own well being. It could well be an incorrect conclussion but a sensible one!

If I see someone wearing a big coat and wooly hat at the height of summer then I may draw a similar conclusion. That conclusion is more likely to be right when there are lots of people dressed in a similar way. It could, of course, be religious but we do need to draw a line between an idealistic and realistic view of peoples characters at some point.

You are right, of course, Clinton. We should never judge in such a way but unfortunately we are not all as perfect as that. To class us as bigots just because we are human is bigotry itself is it not? ;-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Mooh
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 11:07 AM

Clinton, I mostly agree. Though Mingulay, I was really thinking of the young ones headed to school sans coat or boots or anything to cover extremities in -10C not counting the windchill. That goes beyond biology unless their biology created their stupidity.

At my daughters' elementary and secondary schools the girls are wearing everything very tight lately. Like in my time, the '70s, it must drive the boys crazy. IQ be damned, we were thinking with our cocks then. Enough blood to operate a brain and a cock but not both at the same time.

Peace, Mooh

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 10:21 AM

Judging people by their outward appearance, by their surface, is bigotry no?

Ya don't like it? Fine... don't wear it... but why cast dispersions on those who do?

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 09:42 AM

Now THAT'S gotta hurt!

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 08:52 AM

Mooh - tolerance to cold and IQ are not always correlated. I have known a number of people who seemingly disregard cold weather but still have high IQ's, my girlfriend being one. When our Flanders Experience mob visit Ieper in early November we attend the Menim Gate ceremony, it is always cold and windy and whilst the rest of us huddle in our coats she stands there wearing a cardigan. On the other hand she melts during the summer. It's more a case of biological central heating than IQ.

"gradually her leggings slipped down to reveal...."

Please no, not anal piercings!!

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Mooh
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 08:16 AM

Ball caps backwards, sideways, or over a head scarf always seem as silly as pants which won't stay up, but I have noticed many folks changing to a more practical style eventually. So what, should we expect any different in a culture based so much on image and competition?

I'm not real hip on the idea of promoting some corporation or corporate ideal on my clothing, so I tend not to wear such things, the exception would be my beloved Maple Leafs Hockey Club hat and jerseys. I like festival T-shirts a lot. No deliberate body piercing, but I do plan to get tattoos (maybe a kingfisher or a brook trout).

As for IQ, I have felt pretty stupid wearing mismatched socks until I started to do it on purpose because they were all I had...comes with getting dressed in the dark, in a tent, in the woods.

What slays me are the folks who are stunned enough to walk about in the dead on winter without appropriate protection from the elements. THAT'S when I draw a correlation between IQ and wardrobe.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: fat B****rd
Date: 07 Sep 04 - 03:41 AM

I was sweating away on a treadmill at my local gym last week when a young lady in VERY jailin'leggings started to jog on the maching in front of me. Gradually her leggings slipped down to reveal...........

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 10:26 PM

Well, my wife eventually took the young gal--who was becoming quite 'womanly'--to purchase a bra, with the mom's permission of course. Bill went back to losing faceoffs against Susie, and Susie went back to turtlenecks in practices. Bill later confided to me that he liked facing off against Susie, but he did admit that it interfered with his game.

It was that group of kids that I took on a field trip to Edmonton and Calgary for floor hockey tournaments. Had a helluva time getting them to be careful in traffic, and it was in Edmonton that another kid named 'Alan' split off from the group. We were staying at dorms on the U of Alberta campus. Alan, a wonderful young man who had bush skills like I have never seen--drop him naked with a knife 200 miles from nowhere in bush country and he'd return three weeks later dressed in animal skins and well-fed, got lost a block away from the dorm. He was only two blocks from the pool the kids were swimming in--and it was their first time in anything but the Reserve water-supply dugout or a lake--and I found him crying because he was lost. It's all in one's perspective I suppose. Susie today is married as are the boys (men now), and I like to think that Bill has been able to back-burner his floor hockey memories in the presence of his wife. Somehow, though . . . .

Thanks for your kind words freightdawg and jimmyt.

Later.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: jimmyt
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 09:48 PM

Great Story!!! I can imagine the delemma of the poor kid!

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: freightdawg
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 09:40 PM

LOL!

That is one of the funniest stories I've read on the 'cat in a while. Thanks, GROK.

Freightdawg

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 09:12 PM

Dress for the occasion.

I was coaching floor hockey on an Indian Reserve years back. My star center--this kid NEVER lost a faceoff--began to lose when he was up against a certain young lady. I couldn't figure out how this was possible. Every single time he was up against 'Suzie', she won. Always. This went on for about three practices. Finally, I asked 'Bill' to let me faceoff against her.

Took me a split-second to diagnose Bill's problem. I asked my wife to get Suzie to practice wearing a turtleneck t-shirt.

Bill began to win the faceoffs again.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: freightdawg
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 07:59 PM

One area that the droopy drawers attack has overtaken is that of basketball gym shorts. While I was a basketball official (and even more so today) we were constantly having to stop the game, tell some "be like Mike" wannabe to hike his britches and keep 'em hiked or he was gonna sit on the bench. The girls were no problem. Seems that at least in some areas the girls were more careful about having their underwear exposed. I cannot wait until fashion moves back to having the tighter (not skin tight, just not the wedding train look) uniforms in sports. So much easier to officiate when you are not having to worry about "wardrobe malfunctions."

Freightdawg

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 07:45 PM

Trends in casual clothing tend to work their way from the teens who initially adopt them to the adult population. But I haven't seen any adults adopting the jeans-at-half-mast look. It seems to belong solely the age group that's too old to be told how to dress by Mom and Dad but not old enough to realize that most people aren't really interested in looking at someone else's boxer shorts.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 05:24 PM

But, will streaking make a comeback?

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 02:10 PM

I do.

On reading comments here and elsewhere the trend could also be explained as an infantile obsession, ie pre potty dress. Call it 'the nappy look', and in these days of aids and such perhaps the nearest thing to bonking these kids ever got was the odd prick with a nappy pin - which also explains the piercing obsessions.

But, OTOH local statistics here tell another story, however scary it may be; so, of the 150 females in the graduation year of a local HS, 130 YUP one hundred and thirty, all under 17 some under 16, pregnant. The few who aren't have become outcasts.

Perhaps the garb is about perception, which kida fits social history, not lifestyle.

But while its ok for the Julia Roberts/Tom Cruises to wear weird clothes, its another for mucko bucko who would still look like crap in regular clothes.

So perhaps such folks shouldn't be advertising their lack of judgement? that would explain why they always end up in dole ques, food stamps etc etc.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 01:23 PM

You people don't honestly judge people on the way they DRESS do you???

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: mack/misophist
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 01:18 PM

Since when are beards out? Not around here. Of course, this is here, not there.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 12:44 PM

Letting your beard grow really long might do the trick, jimmyt

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: jimmyt
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 11:36 AM

not for you, Art! You hang in there!! It'll make a comeback and you will again be on the cutting edge of fashion. I am thinking about the beard again, but just to hide my double chin. Can't think of any way to hide my gut though!

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 11:35 AM

Far out?

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: beardedbruce
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 11:31 AM

only the beards...

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: artbrooks
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 11:29 AM

Have beards and tie-dye and sandles and braids gone out?

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: jimmyt
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 11:03 AM

Are these things really noticably different that beards and tie dye and sandles and braids as in the 60s? I know they are a little odd to us, but in the big picture, does it really hurt anything? I guess these kids are just seeking the same thing lots of us all did durnig our youth. Looking different then the "Square" parents

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Cllr
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 10:19 AM

In prison the officors just take the belt and shoe laces to prevent suicide by hanging, this is why the droopy trousers look is known as "jailing"

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: mack/misophist
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 09:52 AM

ot very funny, but interesting history. Cholos used to wear pressed blue jeans with glaringly white tee shirts. The style derived from prison garb. Many of the people they admired spent time there. The droopy drawer look comes from a little closer to home. Short term jail inmates often have their clothes confiscated, especiall if they're dirty, The replacements usually come from a rag bag of available old clothes. Smart jailers make sure ensure that the new clothes discourage vigorous activity. Jail fashion. Source? This came froms a local newspaper article, citing the sheriff's office and a sociologist.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 08:43 AM

I have for some years been wearing a baseball cap to help reduce glare (I wear contact lenses) - inside the house - mainly from overhead lighting, but decided that looked silly.

So I found something that resembles the old style Clerical Eyeshade, (like a baseball cap with no top!) but the only ones I could find were made out of blue terry-towel material.

Far less silly... isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 08:40 AM

What if the baseball cap is worn sideways? This alarming trend seems to be catching on in some quarters and seems to be accompanied by huge plastic "sports" shoes with tongues sticking out over the toes and extra long laces trailing along the ground.

Fortunately NASCAR is a minority aberration this side of the pond as we only have one oval track which has most aptly been built in an old ironstone mine. The afficionados of this sport seem to be of the same mentality as their American cousins, hotdogs and burgers being cordon bleu

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: artbrooks
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 08:15 AM

Wearing a baseball cap indoors is a clear indication that the IQ figure is rapidly approaching zero. Wearing it at a restaurant table is sure proof. On the other hand, if cowboy hats are worn under the same circumstances...is it possible to have a negative IQ?

Herself and I were walking behind a young man last week. He kept pulling up his trousers and she kept hoping he wouldn't do so in time.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 07:58 AM

Exception to Dawkins' Law: Old folkies are allowed to wear baseball caps to protect their bald heads from sunburn with no reduction in IQ. But this exception is nullified if said baseball cap is emblazoned with a beer company logo or anything having to do with NASCAR.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 07:18 AM

Builders started this fashion many years ago

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Chris Green
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 06:51 AM

The biologist Richard Dawkins promulgated the famous Law of Baseball Caps in which he proved that donning one reduces the IQ by 90%. Reversing it on your head reduces it by a further 10%.

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,Mingulay
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 06:17 AM

My IQ hovered around 137 but never settled. It was last seen hovering around Huntingdon where Bob Hambleton mistook it for a Kestrel. Where it is now is not known. Probably squashed under the wheels of a lorry on the A1.

What I would like to know is, are these garments long shorts or short longs. Why does such crap design cost so much money. Is an ankle level crutch indicative of great personal endowment. Does a tongue piercing make licking stamps difficult. Why is it necessary to wear a woolly hat in a heatwave, not to mention a full length leather coat (or is that only local).

IQ?

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 03:24 AM

My trousers are droopy because I lost weight and can't be bothered to change the elastic. My IQ is as it always was, hovering around 137.

I've only had my ears pierced. I'm a wuss when it comes to pain.

Perhaps the belly button piercing is a prelude to inserting a ring to which trousers can be clipped to prevent their total descent?

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,GROK
Date: 06 Sep 04 - 12:01 AM

Main Entry: intelligence quotient
Function: noun
: a number used to express the apparent relative intelligence of a person that is the ratio multiplied by 100 of the mental age as reported on a standardized test to the chronological age   

Main Entry: 2dress
Function: noun
1 : APPAREL, CLOTHING
2 : an outer garment (as for a woman or girl) usually consisting of a one-piece bodice and skirt
3 : covering, adornment, or appearance appropriate or peculiar to a particular time
4 : a particular form of presentation : GUISE

from Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Don't look like it!

Subject: BS: DroopyDrawer Jeans and Body Piercing
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 05 Sep 04 - 11:41 PM

When I see these people I often think their pants are full of crap.

So I wonder if IQ is related to dress?