BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Severn
Date: 18 Sep 06 - 11:36 AM

That's The One! Thanks for finding it. Just got back in town and finally had a chance to listen. Brought back some serious childhood memories! That I never heard of THAT James Brown again, means he was NOT "the hardest working man in Show Business" (nor was that song ready for "Live At The Appollo!").


Where were those Trail Winders when some of the trails I've been on have stopped, and I nearly died of thirst from lack of a main spring?

Are they anything like those German Clock Winders they sing about?

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Sep 06 - 01:14 PM

Rusty's White Buffalo was full grown and white. A false god no doubt.

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Sep 06 - 04:40 PM

That this latest birth is a male doesn't make it any less significant in American Indian prophecies, which say that such an animal will reunite all the races of man and restore balance to the world, Hand said. He said the buffalo's coat will change from white to black, red and yellow, the colors of the various races of man, before turning brown again.

The birth of a white male buffalo means men need to take responsibility for their families and the future of the tribe, Hand said.

Makes a lot of sense to me. Lucky those of you who get to visit it. May it live long and fulfill its destiny.

Mitakuye Oyasin,

kat

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 01:31 PM

That last is listed as being on RinTinTin...


still looking for others.

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: MMario
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 12:01 PM

sung by James Brown and the Trail Winders.

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 11:44 AM

Listen here:
http://thinhippo.com/steve/whitebuffalo.html

                           The White Buffalo

I have heard many stories from an old indian friend and this is my favorite even though it has no end

There's an old indian legend I was told long ago,

it's about a special valley and the White Buffalo.

There are few who have seen him though they've looked high and low

for the trail is long and winding to the white Buffalo

The legend says you'll find him if your heart is brave and true and you treat all men as brothers no matter what they do

I have searched for that valley since I started to grow,

I won't stop until I find it and the white Buffalo.

the legend says you'll find him if your heart is brave and true and you treat all men as brothers no matter what they do

I have searched for that valley since I started to grow,

I won't stop until I find it and the white Buffalo.

For I know it's right to find the White Buffalo!

Composer: Bergman   


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Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Severn
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 09:19 AM

None of them are the one from "Rin Tin Tin", but DAMNED impressive, Bruce! Thanks!

Like the Bison-tennial all over again!

...(or was that The Captain-'n-Tenniel?)

....and where's the part where the female Bison come out with holes in their livestockings when no one's looking to dance by the light of the moon?

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 08:05 AM

or even



Ted Nugent - Great White Buffalo



Well, listen everybody,
to what I got to say.
There's hope for tomorrow,
Ooh,we're workin'on today.
Well,it happened long time ago,
in the new magic land.
The Indian and the buffalo,
they existed hand in hand....

The Indian needed food,
he needed skins for a roof.
But he only took what they needed,baby.
Millions of buffalo were the proof.

Yeah,its all right.
But then came the white man,
with his thick and empty head.
He couldnt see past the billfold,

he wanted all the buffalo dead.
It was sad...It was sad.
Oh yeah...yes indeed.
Oh yes,

it happened a long time ago,baby.
In the new magic land.
See,the Indian and the buffalo,
they existed hand in hand.

The Indians,they needed some food,
and some skins for a roof.
They only took what they needed,baby.
millions of buffalo were the proof,yeah.

But then came the white dogs,
with their thick and empty heads.
They couldnt see past the billfold.
they wanted all the buffalo dead.
Everything was SO sad.


When I looked above the canyon wall,
some strong eyes did I see.
I think its somebody comin' around
to save my ass,baby.
I think...I think he's comin' around
to save you and me.

Boys......


I said, above the canyon wall...
strong eyes did glow.
It was the leader of the land,baby.


OH MY GOD,
The GREAT WHITE BUFFALO.....
LOOK OUT!!!! LOOK OUT!!!!!!!


Well,he got the battered herd.
He led em cross the land.
With the Great White Buffalo,
they gonna make a final stand.


The Great White Buffalo,
comin'around to make a final stand.
Well,look out here he comes.


The great white buffalo,baby.
The Great White Buffalo....
Look out,here he comes.
He's doin'all right.


Makin'ev

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: beardedbruce
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 08:04 AM

White Buffalo

Thundering foam the hits the keel, like powder blazed by flints,
The figure-head is riding high with his face right to the wind
The hull that creaks in every joint is hammering the sea
Determined it will ride the main, it will last eternally
It rips the wild and stormy sea like a heavy charge of pride
Book and eye are moved by storm, the ropes are holding tight
The rudder's beating left and right, the ship in seesaw motion
The proudness of a majesty is banning all devotion
Like a whirlwind, rushing over the sea
Like a whirlwind, blowing fast, blowing free
Like a whirlwind, a raving storm in the night
Like a whirlwind, going mad, going wild
Thundering foam the hits the keel, like powder blazed by flints,
the figure-head is riding high with his face right to the wind
The hull that creaks in every joint is hammering the sea
Determined it will ride the main, it will last eternally
Like a whirlwind, rushing over the sea
Like a whirlwind, blowing fast, blowing free
Like a whirlwind, a raving storm in the night
Like a whirlwind, going mad, going wild



or

Saxon
The Great White Buffalo

Wild horses running free
Bareback warriors ride again
Hear the voices from the spirit world
Crying out for the Indian nation
From the sacred burial mounds
To the happy hunting grounds
Like the moon across the sky
Hear the ancient battle cry

Give the land back to the nations
Let their spirits roam the plains
With the great white buffalo

You were the eagle in the sky
The cunning wolf the running bear
Roaming free from the valley to the prairie
You lived as one on the sacred land
From the river down to the sea
In the wind blowing through the trees
'Round the fire dancing high
Hear the ancient battle cry

Give the land back to the nations
Let their spirits roam the plains
With the great white buffalo
The great white buffalo
The great white buffalo

The mighty fires burn across the land
The Cherokee and the Navaho
Call the nations there to be as one
Gather here all you native bone
Join the spirits hidden in the past
Come together for the tribal dance
Many here are prepared to die
For the ancient battle cry

Give the land back to the nations
Let their spirits roam the plains
Give the land back to the nations
Let their spirits roam the plains
With the great white buffalo

The great white buffalo


or


White Buffalo
© 1976 Rod MacDonald, Blue Flute Music (ASCAP)

They say you've got to lose before you can win
they say you've got to choose before you can give in
and you've got to cut loose to get back again
and it's a long way back home

they say you've got to fall before you can land
they say you've got to crawl before you can stand
and you've got to lose it all to get what you planned
and it's a long way back home

(chorus)
and it's a long way, a long way back home
when you're standing on some place you've never known
and I might see you where the rivers flow
like me you're looking for white buffalo

they say you've got to die before you can live
they say you've got to cry before you can give
and you've got to say goodbye to get back again
and it's a long way back home

they say you've got to seed what you're going to grow
they say you've got to need what you're going to let go
anf you've got to believe what you're going to know
and it's a long way back home

(chorus)                              

so I say to you farewell for we will meet again
in the hottest flames of hell I could only call you friend
and when you hear that final bell, do not ask whose round you're in
till you've found your way back home

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Severn
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 07:51 AM

I believe the bad guy DID get trampled by the buffalo, while Rusty survived!

...and, oh yes! If anyone could dredge up the lyrics to the aforementioned "White Buffalo" song....

Someone Noble and True Of Heart....

Thanks in advance.




YO-O-O-O-O, Rinty!

Yo' Mama!

Yo-Yo Ma

Yo! Adrian!

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 06:59 AM

The legend also appears in one of the X-Files episodes... it's been a while since I watched them all so I can't remember which one.... still, I wasn't doing much else today!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Severn
Date: 15 Sep 06 - 06:58 AM

I first heard of the legend in a garbled form as a kid, as an episode of the old "Rin Tin Tin" TV show, complete with the post commander (Called Rip Masters, I believe, in the series) singing a song about the legend around a joint campfire of Cavalry and friendly Indians, each verse ending with "...The Whi-i-i-i-ite Buffalo..."with "Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo..." echoed by those around the campfire (in perfect harmony, sounding, naturally enough, like the same chorus that seemingly sang the theme songs of three quarters of those TV Western theme songs). In the show, only the true of heart,or something of the like could actually see one, and of course Corporal Rusty sees one on the horizon at the end of the show, when he's running from a Buffalo stampede and falls down, and when he looks up again there are buffalo grazing calmly all around him and some friendly Indians and his Cavalry buddies standing around him, saying "Yes, I believe you saw it." There was a bad guy involved in the plot, too.

Did anyone else remember this? Or am I either just dreaming or extremely noble and true of heart?

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 05:15 PM

There's been an incredible jump in the Panda population too... 25 in one year... that's a fair percentage of the world population... Maybe Mother Nature IS trying to tell us something!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: MMario
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 03:53 PM

BTW - there are two types of White Buffalo - the albino ones - which are born white and usually stay white; and the "other type" - frequently born coloured and turning white, or born white and changing colour, or changing colour several times over lifetime.


Then there are some that have beefalo in their ancestry - which negates all bets because they can get the white from the non-bison genes.

Albinism in bison appears to be a partially expressed trait in many instances - true albino's should have pink eyes, they may be blind or deaf; many "albino" bison have blue eyes, and they are NOT prone to blindness or deafness. There haven't been enough of them or enough studies to determine whether this is an expression of the albino gene (suspected as usually such an animal has true albino relatives nearby in the family tree) or a "dominant white" condition such as in some other species.

The family of white buffalo in flagstaff appears to be a seperate mutation - they are dark eyed

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: MMario
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 03:28 PM

well - there is a herd in Flagstaff that had seven white buffalo born between '97 and '05; probably had several more since then as they now have three breeding female white buffalo and two males - one of which is reaching breeding age.

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Kaleea
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 03:25 PM

After Miracle was born, some of my relatives from Oklahoma went out to be blessed. I was living in the Twin Cities, & my boyfriend & I accompanied his uncle & a few others from their band of Ojibway to visit Miracle. My prayers go up for the new calf.

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 03:18 PM

Tell 'em the buffalo lives on the same street my Mom lives on, Rap.

And he's Living On The River... the same river I wrote the song about.

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 03:17 PM

Yup. The Shoshone-Bannocks out here are happy.

Subject: BS: 3rd Rare White Buffalo Born
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 14 Sep 06 - 03:09 PM

A third white buffalo has just been born on a farm in Janesville, Wisconsin. about a half mile from where my Mother lives. Ten years ago, the first white buffalo was born and it was considered by the Plains Indians as an event almost of the same significance as the second coming of Christ. The birth received international news coverage, with people coming from all over the world to see it. It was featured on Japanese television, and many Japanese traveled to this country to see it. Plains Indians, who considered the buffalo calf sacred traveled many 100's of miles on foot, to come and place offerings in front of the calf. My wife Ruth and I were out visiting my Mother ten years ago when the first calf was born.

It is the believe of the Plains Indians that the calf is the reincarnation of a woman who appeared long ago, wearing white hides. She taught the people rituals and music.

As the white calf matured, it's coat was prophesied to change from white to black, yellow and red, the colors of the various races of me, before turning brown again. The first bufallo, named Miracle, died at the age of ten. A second calf was born in 1996, but died after three days.

The indians believe that the white bufgfalo will reunite all the races of man and restore balance to the world.

Sounds good to me.

Next time we go to see my Mom, we'll drop by and pay our respects.

Jerry