Subject: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: English Jon Date: 12 Feb 01 - 06:06 AM Anybody got a set of words for this? I'm putting a version of this together at the moment, and I get the feeling there's something not right about it. Any catters got complete words? Many thanks, Jon |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: Michael in Swansea Date: 12 Feb 01 - 06:57 AM I looked in Yahoo entered "seventeen come sunday" without the quotes of course and came up with lots of sites the first 3 at least had lyrics. Happy compiling Mike |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: English Jon Date: 12 Feb 01 - 07:12 AM Thanks Michael! I'm on the case. Cheers, Jon |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: Wolfgang Date: 12 Feb 01 - 07:59 AM old thread with lyrics. Wolfgang |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: English Jon Date: 12 Feb 01 - 08:12 AM Thanks Wolfgang. Didn't think of that. Searches so far have yielded ripe, (but I had to use U.S. version of Yahoo...U.K. site gave me nothing! Strange, considering it's supposed to be a Linconshire song! oh well. There's some great verses, and I wasn't expecting the happy ending...which is good, because the ending of my old version is just too horrible: "for the fifes and drums are my delight, And the bugles sweetly sounding, and it's Oh my love, I must leave you now but I'll be back for your mother in the morning..." eeeeeeyyyooooweughhhh. See why I wasn't too happy with it? Someone's been messing around with it somewhere along the line... Cheers, Jon |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 12 Feb 01 - 08:53 AM A widespread and popular song, so there is no "full set of words" as such, though some members of this song-family are more complete than others. It still turns up in tradition. In the DT:
Rocky Mountain Kentucky, 1953; no tune. Reference is Laws O17 and DT #334, but ignore The Rich Old Lady, which is a version of Marrowbones. Reference for Trooper and the Maid branch is Child 299 In the Forum:
sixteen come next Sunday or so Irish version as recorded by the Bothy Band and English version from Lincolnshire (1905). The latter with tune in abc format. There are entries at the Traditional Ballad Index:
Seventeen Come Sunday They consider the two groups to be separate though intermingled; others consider them divergent forms of the same original family. There is a version at Lesley Nelson's Folk Music of England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and America I'm Seventeen Come Sunday English version, with tune, taken from an anthology published in America; shows signs of editorial tampering. Very close to some of the versions Cecil Sharp found in Somerset around 1904. "in" in the final line is a typo for "is". At the Bodleian Library Broadside Collection: I'm seventeen come Sunday Printed between 1840 and 1866 by J. Harkness, Church Street, Preston. Malcolm |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: English Jon Date: 12 Feb 01 - 09:10 AM Sorry, by "Complete", I meant in so far as a working version... Malcolm, this stuff is brilliant. Many thanks. Jon |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 12 Feb 01 - 09:50 AM The song gets discussed here from time to time, usually in response to questions from people who have heard popular Irish recordings. The version that Christy Moore used, for example, has been posted here several times, so I only mentioned one! Actually, I forgot to include The Light Dragoon English version as sung by Mike Waterson. Malcolm |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: English Jon Date: 12 Feb 01 - 10:00 AM Never knew the Irish sung it! Hadn't thought of it as being related to light dragoon either. I suppose the gender role-reversal thing makes it feel a lot different. Jon |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: Noreen Date: 12 Feb 01 - 10:02 AM Bet you're glad you asked now, Jon! Malcolm comes up trumps again. Noreen |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 17 Come sunday...Please! From: English Jon Date: 12 Feb 01 - 10:08 AM He certainly does! Cheers Jon |
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