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Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One DigiTrad: ROCKIN` THE CRADLE ROCKING THE CRADLE SPORTING BACHELORS WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN Related threads: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra (28) Rocking the Cradle (39) Lyr Req: Old Man's Lament (B Sainte-Marie?) (7) Lyr Req: Rocking the baby to sleep (11) Lyr Req: Cuckolded lullaby (14) |
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Subject: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: John in Brisbane Date: 22 Jul 98 - 09:56 PM I couldn't find The Wee One in the DT. It is very obviously a variant of Rockin The Cradle (or is it t'other way around)? I have only just heard the tune for Rockin The Cradle - and what a nice tune it is. It bears some similarities to that used for The Wee One (e.g. both are modal) but is distinctive enough to be performed as a tune in its own right. It's a good slow Air for a fiddle. Any history known please? I suspect that The Wee One is an Aussie variation (as well as The Man From Kiandra which only alters a handful of words). I sense some deja vu as I write this, but thought that I'd ask first before volunteering lyrics and music. Regards John PS I believe that Martin Wyndham-Reid made The Wee One popular a couple of decades ago. |
Subject: RE: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: Bob Bolton Date: 23 Jul 98 - 12:39 AM G'day John,
The "Wee One" was collected by John Meredith from the wonderful old Australian singer Sally Sloane, late 1950s or early 1960s. A.L. Lloyd would have seen the words in the photocopies of Meredith, Ward and Stewart & Keesing's collection notes lodged with the EFDSS (by Edgar Walters?) and possibly heard the field tapes. Rgards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: RE: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: Bob Bolton Date: 23 Jul 98 - 02:15 AM G'day again Ted, This is a query of mine after reviewing this posting. You mention hearing the tune to "Rocking' the Cradle". I could not see tunes associated with the songs in the DT. Was I missing something or is there somewhere else to look for the tunes? I have just downloaded Alan's MIDItext program and am merrily shuffling dots from Mudcat to me ... and vice verse ... so I can access tunes in ABC or in MIDI format and download them to my music program (MusicTime). I see that the DT is available with MIDI, so I guess there must be some way to get them, but I just can't see it. Regards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: RE: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: dick greenhaus Date: 23 Jul 98 - 10:02 AM Bob- We have tunes for over half the 7100 lyrics; unfortunately we don't have one (yet) for ROCKIN' THE CRADLE. If we do have a tune, there's a "CLICK HERE TO PLAY" box at the end of the lyrics. If we don't have a tune, and you know it, please send it in. The we WILL have a tune. PS: Kay Cothran's COAL IN THE STONE uses a slight variant of Rocking the Cradle—fine |
Subject: RE: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: Barbara Date: 23 Jul 98 - 01:07 PM Bob , are you asking for MIDI files from the DOWNLOADED version of DT? Blessings, Barbara |
Subject: RE: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: Date: 23 Jul 98 - 08:01 PM Good news - I think! There is a Midi at the following URL for Rockin The Cradle. http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/english/rockcrad.htm This is part of the English collection. I note that the DT attributes the lyrics as Irish. My thanks to the Mudcat contributor who informed us of site. Many of the Midis are quite well done. I find it much easier to appreciate a new tune if I can hear a multi part arrangement. I certainly intend to add this song to my repertoire. Dick, I hesitate to ask this question ... but, let's say one or more of us were keen to fill in some of the gaps in the DT for songs with no tunes - I get the impression that fewer new songs have tunes available than for the DT as a whole - what's the easiest way to search for these gaps? F'rinstance we Aussies could volunteer to provide (say) half a dozen tunes each by Christmas. If I offend my country mates please forgive me. Bob.many thanks for your erudite notes on the Wee One. I appreciate the effort you spent to provide them. Regards John |
Subject: RE: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: dick greenhaus Date: 23 Jul 98 - 10:13 PM John-it's a trivial matter to list the lyrics that lack tunes: You search (full text seach if you're using the downloaded version) for: {NOT} PLAY.EX* All contributions happily accepted. dick |
Subject: Tune Add: ROCKING THE CRADLE / THE WEE ONE From: John in Brisbane Date: 24 Jul 98 - 12:20 AM Here's the tune, best suited in its current key of C to tenors. It goes up to F - I can't.
MIDI file: rockcrad.mid Timebase: 240 TimeSig: 4/4 24 8 This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
Enjoy! TGIF John |
Subject: RE: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: Bob Bolton Date: 27 Jul 98 - 12:18 AM G'day Barbara, I was not sure how to look for tunes in the on-line DT. I have not downloaded the DT ... and won't until my computer has a heart, lung and brain transplant. (I have a big new HD and lots more RAM waiting to go in but the CPU that was to make all this possible fell over under test and my computer engineering friend is till contemplating its entrails. When I have room, I will load my own copy but, until then, I have to use the net version. I am still trying to get the MIDI files to load in to MusicTime - MT just reects the file as "Not a Valid MIDI file". It may only be that this is one more thing fallen over from interupt conflicts since the unsucessful upgrade and jury-rigged back to previous version. A lot of other things don't happen on MT since that and I hope it all falls into place when we get the CPU to behave. Regards, Bob Bolton |
Subject: RE: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: John in Brisbane Date: 27 Jul 98 - 03:17 AM Bob, Just a small testimonial for the downloaded version of the DT. Apart from the requirement for a few Meg of hard disc space, it will run on the most meagre of PC's quite happily. Until recently I had a spare 286 - I now regret having turfed it out. I have had my share of resource incompatibilities on my current PC, but the DOS version of the DT keeps chugging away. Regards John |
Subject: RE: Rockin The Cradle vs The Wee One From: John in Brisbane Date: 26 Jan 00 - 11:04 PM Refresh, as I understand it the DT still lacks the lyrics and tune to The Wee One, which seems to be sufficiently different to Rocking The Cradle to warrant inclusion. Regards, John |
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