Hull Shanty Festival 2012

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: Willa
Date: 26 Aug 12 - 05:05 PM

See the thread titled Folk & Roots event at Hessle Town Hall-8 Sept
The event includes Beggars Bridge and Hase Waits, both very good.

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: mally
Date: 26 Aug 12 - 06:08 PM

Beggar's Bridge are also appearing at The Grafton pub grafton St. Newland Ave this Tues Steve.

       Mally

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: Les from Hull
Date: 27 Aug 12 - 09:37 AM

There were no singarounds in Minerva or Ruscadors, only poorly attended open mikes when I looked in. Having selected the worst possible days to hold this event, there wouldn't have been many singers anyway. Having rejected, or not sought, the advice of anyone with any local knowledge of maritime or folk events, this event was always doomed.

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 27 Aug 12 - 08:39 PM

Whilst agreeing with Paul Davenport's posting of 25th to a certain extent and also noting Steve Gardham's idea of bending the ear of a selectively deaf politician the following thought struck me.

Would it not be better if there are sufficient people willing to have a go to ignore the commercial and political interests and get together to put on a real shanty and maritime event at a more suitable date(s)?

I'm willing to put in my twopennorth in my native city. It might have to start relatively small but I am sure, given the right mix, it could quickly grow.

So what about the Hull Shanty & Maritime Festival 2013?

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: stallion
Date: 28 Aug 12 - 04:02 AM

With Ron working out of the country for most of the year and his family requiring to see something of him it is notoriously difficult for us to get anywhere but given enough notice and it's not around academic holiday time then we would love to contribute.

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: nutty
Date: 28 Aug 12 - 05:00 AM

I'm sure all those people who helped to support the Ellesmere Port Event would be more than willing to assist - although I would like to see an East Coast Maritime event which could encompass a larger area,

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 28 Aug 12 - 11:56 AM

What had you in mind, Hazel?

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: nutty
Date: 28 Aug 12 - 04:27 PM

If the council are unlikely to give support then there are two choices -

either -
keep the event small as the previous event

or -
find another venue along the coast where the community would welcome and support such an event.

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 28 Aug 12 - 06:49 PM

Hazel,
I hear whispers that the old crew are getting together to see what can be done in Hull. Probably at the next Shanty UK meet in Goole sometime in October. Keep fingers crossed.

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: stallion
Date: 29 Aug 12 - 03:53 AM

what date in october?

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: mally
Date: 29 Aug 12 - 02:03 PM

I went down to have a shufty on Fri. and sat.
Fri.I started at the Minerva which was practically empty then went into the music room and doubled the audience and listened to anything but folk songs, after which the other half of the audience got up and played an harmonica so I went back to bar.Monkeys Fist turned up later, who I   thoroughly enjoyed.I have never known the Minerva be so depressing.The staff where fed up, the management pissed off so I pissedoff and walked the empty streets to Greenbricks. This was not much better, there was an accordion band playing there, but the dozen or so customers weren't very interested,credit due to them, they played a couple of shanty tunes.The night then continued with open mike sessions but still no folk music.
Never mind I thought things can only get better there's still Ruscadors.Well I couldn't have more wrong.Either the artists were taking a very long break or had taken the night off there was nothing.The manager was optimistic though saying it should be better tomorrow,he then showed me the posters he had been given to put up which read 'HULL FOLK FESTIVAL FRI.18th AUG and SAT. 18th AUG.' Oh dear can't they get any thing right? Went back to the Minerva (10-45) the music was finish and the pub closing so went home a little dischuffed.         

Went down Sat. but it appeared to be like any other day apart from a few stalls including one trying to get me to join the navy and one which would paint a smile on my face. Two or three boats where there but one of the owners was not very pleased that he had only been given 4weeks notice. There was a main stage that was quite well attended but I didn't hear any folk or maritime stuff. The "Greenbricks" apeared to have taken the day off from music so I thought I'd try the "minerva". There was some music there but still it was not folk or maritime stuff. Since there was more people outside than in I decided to join Les outside for a natter then I decided to try the "greenbricks" but still nothing. By this time it was 5-45ish and everything was packing up.Yet again I thought there's still "Ruscadors".Then BINGO! "Colleen's Fancy" came on and sang some REAL SONGS.At this point I decided to end on a ROLL and take the long walk home knowing that tomorrow I had a party to go to because my local pub was closing.

In a nut shell;
The dates were not known until end of May. Then he had the stupidity to set them for when all the folkies where in Whitby.

There was no publicity, so no one knew it even existed.

For them that did get there, there where on programes so one knew who was on and where.

All the artists where plugged in and staged.
There where no rhythm and booze sessions or the like, where people could do their own thing or just listen. these could have been put in the programe if there was one?

I think a complete audit should be done to find out exactly what the thousands of pounds of the rate payers money was a spent on by this person who in my opinion couldn't even run a bath or a pissup in his own brewery let alone a folk festival.

    Mally

Subject: RE: Hull Shanty Festival 2012
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 29 Aug 12 - 06:38 PM

Not fixed yet, but as soon as it is it'll be plastered all over here.

Very subtle, Mally. I like your style.