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BS: Best sandwich?

Arnie 02 Oct 03 - 06:25 AM
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sian, west wales 02 Oct 03 - 07:51 AM
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Subject: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Arnie
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 06:25 AM

A recent study for the Baker's Federation has decided that the perfect sandwich is cheese and pickle on sliced white bread! That must be the most boring sandwich going so I don't know who voted for it - maybe the voting was rigged by Sunblest and the Cheesemakers Federation. My own particular favourite is salami on crusty white bread. Although the Earl of Sandwich invented the beast, I suspect that our UK sandwiches (or butties where I come from) are now lagging behind offerings from other parts of the globe - the choice in the States when I was last there is pretty staggering. Any particular favourites and are there still regional variations??


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,T-boy
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:33 AM

Sorry, white bread is a total no-no.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,KB
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:37 AM

pizza sandwiches are lovely. One of those mini-pizzas between stodgy white bread & butter.
garlic-butter bacon & crisp sandwitches are also very nice.
chip butties?


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:51 AM

Yeh, I saw that too - and agree completely. Boring! (And, for N. Americans, pickle doesn't mean gherkin/garlic dill/ et al. It's a chutney kinda thing.)

Give me roast turkey complete with stuffing and cranberry sauce between two slabs of (sorry ...) 'white' bread.

OR EVEN BETTER - Montreal smoked meat!!!!!!!!!!!! (on light rye, of course.)

sian


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Sooz(at work)
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 08:01 AM

I've just eaten crunchy peanut butter and tomato on cheese and marmite bread (see Mudcat Cookbook) but the best of all is crunchy peanut butter and banana on wholemeal after it has been in a rucksack for five miles or so. Mind you, the location is also important. High, wild and lonely are good features.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: RangerSteve
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 08:22 AM

Sian, what's Montreal smoked meat?

I stopped at the Putney Diner in Putney, Vermont and had what I think was called the Green Mountain Special, (I know the words "Green Mt." were in the name) - Meat loaf with cheddar cheese (Cabot's mild to be specific) and cranberry sauce on rye. It was excellent, and I'm looking forward to travelling to Vt. again for the same meal. I can make it at home, but the Putney Diner has a certain ambience that I can't reproduce in my kitchen, (there is not one right angle in the Putney Diner, it feels like it may collapse on you at any moment). the sandwich came with fries that were cut at the diner, not cut and frozen somewhere else, and tomato soup shredded mild cheddar and basil, also excellent. (You can do this one at home, too, a can of Campbell's, add the cheese just before serving, so it gets gooey, but doesn't melt entirely).


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 08:52 AM

Ummm.... dunno what Montreal Smoked meat is really. It's what my sister brings home for Christmas (from Montreal) and we eat on Christmas Eve. And it's what she takes me to a diner to eat when I'm in Montreal - and it has to be served by bossy Jewish waiters wearing white shirts, black bow ties and long white half-aprons, and you have to make like you really want chicken-on-white but you know they're gonna bully you into MSM which is part of the experience and it is very very good when followed by a deli cheesecake.   (OK - maybe not a whole one ...)

Maybe it's akin to corned beef? (but PROPER corned beef - not the tinned stuff) It's all moist and very pink and kinda spicy (not herb-y) and utterly lush. Oh, and you should have a kosher dill with it.

We really need Rick Fielding here ....

sian


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: kendall
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 08:52 AM

Thin sliced Steak (steamed or grilled) and cheddar cheese wrapped in aluminum foil and baked until the cheese melts.
Also, the Italian sandwich: a long sub roll packed with ham, cheese, sliced tomatos, lettuce, onions and olives with a squirt of Olive oil.
But, my favorite is the Maine lobster roll. Take a hot dog roll, stuff it with chunks of tail and claw meat, then slather some mayonnaise or Miracle Whip on top.

Venison is also excellent. I even like a sandwich made of refried beans!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 09:03 AM

thin sliced *rare* roast beef, with onion and horseradish on a good whole grain bread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Allan C.
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 09:32 AM

I must agree with Sean about the turkey sandwiches. They are the best part of the Thanksgiving holiday. I also very much enjoy slices of avocado and cheddar cheese between two slices of mayonnaised Italian bread. However, I can be almost as happy with a PB&J - (that's peanut butter and jelly to the uninitiated) sandwich.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Peg
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 09:35 AM

hmm....

The Harrison Deli in Boston makes a great egg salad sandwich...fresh-made to order!

I like Genoa salami and sharp cheddar on chewy fresh bread (like francese or ciabatta) with a bit of grain mustard or real Mayonnaise...

Tuna melt made with cheddar and whole grain bread, with fresh greens added after toasting so they're cold while the rest of the sandwich is hot! (You have to grill the sandwich in two parts).

Thick bacon and cheddar with FRESH garden tomatoes on chewy bread...


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 09:50 AM

Sliced roast beef on pumpernickle with cream cheese and diced black olives.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:00 AM

sun-ripened tomato slices still warm from the garden with swiss cheese on whole wheat spread with real mayo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: mooman
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:02 AM

I agree partially.

Cheese (must strictly be vintage cheddar) and pickle (must strictly be Branston) on wholegrain bread.

Ideally washed down with a pint of Adnams, Brakespears, Old Speckled Hen, Marstons Pedigree, London Pride, Greene King, Bombardier or other similar suitable beverage.

Oh b****r, I just remembered I live in Belgium where none of these things are available!

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:04 AM

mooman - that would be a pint EACH?


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: mooman
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:08 AM

That is an even better idea MMario!

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Ron Olesko
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:14 AM

Turkey, bacon, lettuce & tomato with mayo on toasted white bread. Finest kind.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:19 AM

Banana, tahini, dates, cream cheese on thick barley bread, from a vegetarian shop near work, but I don't often get it as I take my own sandwich to work - lots of salady stuff & roast chicken, or deli meat on a lovely grainy-seed bread.

Worse sando ever was invented by a colleague, my then supervisor, (male, late 30's), & introduced by him to another colleague (male, early 30's) - sausage roll in a bread roll!! Pastry & sausage mince in a roll. yuk. All female staff members who heard or saw it were horrified.

This supervisor used to look at my substantial sando & tell me his pappy white bread sandos (about 6 of them with god-knows-what whimpy filling) were a better lunch & I should have them instead of mine. He meant well, but YUK.

sandra


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:28 AM

Peanut butter (see below) and banana, on toasted whole-wheat bread.

The peanut butter must be REAL peanut butter (nothing but ground peanuts and salt), not that larded, sweetened stuff like Skippy. The bananas really should be JUST over being green.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:32 AM

moo, are you 'in' on Secret Santa this year? If so, and I get you, you've solved my shopping problems!

(Owl still has pride of place. Much commented upon.)

sian


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:34 AM

a blt with avacado and sauteed mushrooms and both pieces of bread fried in the bacon grease.

peanut butter and onion


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Amos
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 11:03 AM

Real peanut butter as described above on seven-grain toast, with thick slices of freshly cooked and thoroughly drained crisp bacon. To drink, a coffee milkshake.

Well, it worked when I was seventeen... LOL!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Ron Olesko
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 11:13 AM

I'm a big fan of Skippy. I know it is processed and not really healthy, but it is a comfort food from my youth!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Mark Clark
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 11:26 AM

I guess one has to have lived in Iowa to understand how good a tenderloin sandwich can be. Outside of Iowa, no one's even heard of tenderloins. Tenderloins were always a speciality at A&W drive-ins—and lots of other places—but the first time I stopped at an A&W outside of Iowa and asked for a tenderloin, all I got was dumb looks. I've since come to learn that this delectible delight is virtually unknown outside Iowa.

A tenderloin is a thin, breaded pork fritter, usually 6 to 8 inches across, deep fried a golden brown. It goes on an oversized sesame seed bun but still sticks out an inch or two around the edges. Optional garnishes include dill pickle slices, onion slices, Romain lettuce and a tomato slice. This is the only sandwich that requires both ketchup and mustard. Normally ketchup is for hamburgers and mustard is for red hots (hot dogs) and never the twain shall meet.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 01:40 PM

Vegemite & Honey (together)

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: M.Ted
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 02:00 PM

Ron's turkey club sounds good--and Mark has given us a good reason to visit Iowa--The Montreal smoked meat sounds like Pastrami--But this thread tells me more than I want to know about some of you!--

As for me, I once tended toward a Rueben with russian dressing--years in Philly made me fond of a good Cheese Steak with grilled onions a few pickled peppers(from Geno's) or a good a South Philly roast pork sandwich--Can't get those outside of Philly though--here in MD, 've found a place that fixes a great North Carolina style pulled pork sandwich, on a spongy white bread bun that I wouldn't touch in any other situation--

but these hot sandwiches are also a bit on the heavy side--lately, I've been partial to a good baguette, brushed with olive oil, and with a few thin slices of Rosemary Ham and a bit of on or another Swiss cheese-

For above mentioned white bread, cheese, and pickle, what sort of cheese would be it be?


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 02:04 PM

I had to go look it up ---

Montreal Smoked meat is a seasoned and smoked brisket - so yes; it is essentially a pastrami


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Sooz
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 02:15 PM

Uncle DaveO - the bananas should be RIPE!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Amos
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 02:38 PM

A true Philadelphia steak sandwich -- fried strips of steak and onions scrambled up and laid hot on a long sub bun. Can't be beat with cold Mountain Dew! LOL!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Mudlark
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 02:40 PM

Oh man, what a thread to drool over. I've been on a breadless diet since the first of the year (my French grandmother would turn over in her grave to hear I've given up homemade bread/croissants/biscuits!) and sandwiches are sorely missed. My favorite is really good pastrami, thin sliced and piled thick, a couple of very thin slices of a good swiss cheese, and finely shredded homemade coleslaw, with spicy mustard on Jewish rye...big dill on the side, and a Negra Modelo or good dark German beer to wash it down. Dream on....


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 02:43 PM

mudlark - I just build the sandwiches without the bread - granted - most have to be eaten with a fork - but some can be rolled up and eaten out of hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 03:00 PM

Some of these sound very interesting, and one I eat on occasion when I find it on the menu is called "French Dip," warm sliced roast beef on a crusty roll, dipped into au jus. But my favorite, and one I come back to again and again with great pleasure, is a good old fashioned peanut butter and jam sandwich.

The office I work in went into a rhapsody of peanut butter sandwich longings when they spotted mine earlier this week. Big slices of nice soft whole wheat bread, real peanut butter (as has been said, just nuts and salt), and a good dollop of strawberry preserves. It helps if it has been at least a couple of hours since you made it, so the flavors can mingle, and hasn't been chilled very much (my lunch bag has a freezer pack, but that keeps it cool, not cold).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Ron Olesko
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 03:09 PM

Another sandwich that I haven't had in years - fried bologna on white bread. I know, it probably sounds horrible to you too. My mother came from a coal mining family in Pennsylvania and she told me that this was a staple for her father and brothers. It was simply bologna fried in ketchup and served on white bread. Simple, basic, cheap, and sustaining. My mother used to make them for me when I was a kid and I loved it! Even though it was meant to be served hot, she said that her mother would make them to pack in the lunches of her dad and brothers lunches.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Don Firth
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 03:23 PM

Years ago my father used to go down to the Seattle waterfront and buy a couple of tuna fresh off the boat. Big damned fish! Then all that weekend, people going by our house would hold their noses and run, because my mother and father were busy cutting up the tuna, packing it into pint Mason jars, and doing the pressure cooker thing. We would also have a few tuna steaks.

Then, any time during the coming year, my mother would take a pint jar of tuna out of the storage cupboard in a cool corner of our basement, mince it up, add a little mayo, minced celery and sweet pickle, and voila! Tuna salad! We'd pack tuna salad about three-quarters of an inch thick between a couple slices of bread.

This was not like the tuna (consistency of moist sawdust) that you get out of the little cans you buy in the grocery store. This was. . .   This was. . . .

I'm overcome by emotion. And hunger. I just realized it's lunchtime here. And (sigh) no tuna. I'll have to rummage around in the fridge and see what I can find.

I grew up on tuna salad sandwiches.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 04:24 PM

Egg mayonnaise - has to be Helmanns mayonnaise, with a little Iceberg lettuce, no nancy garnish of tomatoes or other gunk, and white or half and half bread.

Or mushrooms fried in butter and then poured over sliced white bread. Has to be eaten hot.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 04:44 PM

Don, I've got a tuna steak in the freezer. I also have mushrooms and butter...and cheddar cheese. Sounds like a good combination. I may not actually need the bread.

When I was in England, I used to buy grilled cheddar & tomato sandwiches at a pub. Tried making them myself, but the hot cheese just slides off the tomato (or vice versa). Tastes good though. (Of course, people in England tended to use utensils. There is NO sport in that!

Another one from those days is grilled cheese and onion. You butter bread and slap it on the grill, then put cheese on one half to melt. Slice some onion and grill it until it's soft, then stick it on the cheese side, put the second hunk of bread on top and voila!

Good old fashioned BLTs (Bacon, lettuce and tomato). My mom used to toast some bread, slice up home grown RIPE tomatos, fry bacon and rip off some lettuce leaves. She'd put them on plates on the table, along with a jar of mayonnaise and a knife and we'd just make 'em and eat 'em. We also wound up soaked in mayonnaise & tomato juice, but what the heck.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 04:56 PM

Then, there's always the muffaletta. Muffalettas are so good that, even though they weren't invented in New Orleans and there is absolutely nothing Cajun about them, they have achieved the status of "honorary Cajun food". That is not something Cajuns do lightly. Here's a recipe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 05:07 PM

Smoked Salmon and Asparagus.

I hardly need mention the 'color' of the bread


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 05:14 PM

Some things mentioned sound absolutely dreadful.

In Chicago, there are two types of sandwiches that are absolutely famous and identified as the finest of regional cuisine.

One is the Chicago style hot dog. Not your mushy and flavorless goyisha dog, but a true legendary formula of a kosher style hot dog on a steamed, poppyseed bun with mustard, sweet pickle relish, chopped onions, kosher pickle, tomato. Sport peppers are optional. Requesting ketchup on it will either be scorned, laughed at, or outright denied.

Another Chicago favorite is the Italian beef sandwich. This is an extreme regional favorite of very thinly sliced hot roast beef simmered in Italian spiced juices and served moderately to very juicy on Italian bread. Sweet or hot peppers are optional.

Both of these sandwiches are legendary, world famous Chicago cuisine and are craved by many people when they move away as they cannot find anything so wonderful elsewhere on the planet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 05:18 PM

There is no sandwich in the world that is not improved by the addition of diced (or sliced) red onion.

It has been scientifically proven.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: radriano
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 05:58 PM

How about sardine & mustard sandwiches? For me, the best part of a sandwich is the bread/roll. I'm not partial to white bread. I grew up in a Polish neighborhood in Chicago and I remember, as a kid, going to the local bakery at 5:30 AM to pick up fresh (and still piping hot) loaves of rye bread. The crunchy crust was the best part. Bread should never be packaged in plastic - it should be bought fresh and eaten the same day. My first wife drove me nuts when she would buy several loaves of bread at the supermart and then put them in the freezer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Allan C.
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 06:00 PM

Guest Ed, kindly keep your distance from my PB&J's!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Emma B
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:04 PM

For pure nostalga - the 'conny-onny butties' of childhood! For the uninitiated this is slightly sugared condensed milk spread thickly and gooingly on bread.
However since both my tastebuds and myself have matured my favourite is the Catalan classic Pa amb Tomaquet (preferably with an 'Old Vine' Carignan wine
Lightly toast bread,while warm vigoursly rub with garlic, ooze the juice, seeds and pulp of half a ripe tomato into the bread - leaving the skin. Drizzle with olive oil and serve with serrano ham, roasted peppers, anchovies or whatever else takes your fancy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:24 PM

I guess I forgot to mention that I don't think I had store-bought bread until I was about 13. My mom made it and sold it in a local grocery store for a long time. Round loaves with ridges for where to slice, made in a 2-sided, clamped shut bread 'mold'. People would visit while the ovens were going and go into a sort of a rapture over the smell, which I hardly noticed.

Allan: red onion jelly. Might be good!

Emma, your squished tomato sandwich sounds wonderful!

I grew up with plain sandwiches. Tuna salad, PB&J, Fluffernutters (PB & Marshmallow Fluff), liverwurst & mustard, deviled ham, cream cheese and olive. I'm really glad my mom never got the liverwurst and PB mixed up when she made my school lunches. A flufferwurst would have been REALLY weird.

Wraps are the new thing. I don't mind lots of stuff in a sandwich, as long as someone else makes them. The Press Room makes a chicken pesto wrap that's quite good.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:30 PM

Peanut Butter and Almond Butter, mixed..(both crunchy) on a whole-grain bread (no preservatives) with dark honey, preferably Tasmainian Leatherwood, but Manuka from N. Zealand will do, or even desert Mesquite honey from the US. If the bread is fresh baked and still warm, it is food for the Gods.

Then we can discuss cold meat, cheese etc..sandwiches vs. hot sandwiches --totally different categories! I can build a VERY nice cold one from Italian cold cuts and hot peppers and good Mayo and/or oil-vinegar with lettuce...but, sorry, NO onions on mine. I know, I know...I even understand! I just do not care for biting into onion as a recognizable ingredient of anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Gray D
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:52 PM

Got very partial to the cheese with spicy fried aubergine sandwiches in Rome this year . . . mmmmmm . . . mouth's watering . . .

Gray D


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:57 PM

oh...and I HAVE eaten fried bologna with ketchup (spam, too)...but not for about 50 years.

fried bologna needs to have it's edges cut to avoid curling up in the pan


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: M.Ted
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 09:34 PM

I've had an italian sandwich made with smoked aubergines that taste almost as if they were grilled meat--with a nice goat cheese--


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ely
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:03 PM

My childhood favorite was peanut butter (crunchy) and dill pickles on wheat.

I also like sharp cheddar and tomato on rye, toasted. Not exciting but absolutely the thing, with a bowl of tomato soup, for a cold day.

I like Reubens but made with brown mustard istead of Thousand Island.

My mother, who is from New Jersey, grew up on cream-cheese and grape jelly.

My dad once packed himself a peanut butter and liverwurst, but forgot to take it to work so my mother gave it to me for lunch (I don't recommend this combination, however).


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Padre
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 11:23 PM

Potato salad between two slices of Sunbeam bread - a carb loader's dream!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:53 AM

Ham, Cheese, & Tomato, Toasted. (Closed style)

The trick is to get the right sort of cheese that has taste and melts, but is not too runny.

You can fake this in a Microwave, and it's quicker.

Make 2 pieces of toast, apply ingredients while still hot, (a tiny srape of Hot English Mustard adds to the taste!) place second toast slice on top, then place in M/V, and zap for the minumum time necessary to just melt the cheese.


Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: mouldy
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 03:19 AM

Whenever I can, I get a brie/grape/apple sandwich, with a little green salad, on granary bread. Juicey!

Of course, my daughter loves cheese and marmite on any bread. (Ask Joe Offer!)

Andrea


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,sledge
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 05:19 AM

Bacon on toasted white crusty bread with HP sauce.

Cheers

Sledge


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Gurney
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 06:56 AM

At Frank Winter's wake, someone brought blue cheese and raw onion with plenty of butter, on white bread. I went back for more, but they had been discovered.
Hot chips/french fries with salt and malt vinegar. They must be hot to melt into the butter. (How people can eat chips without vinegar is beyond me.)


Here, the kids will make themselves vegemite/marmite/yeast extract butties! Some even like cold baked beans sammies! Good grief.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 08:26 AM

both red onion jelly and Vidalia onion jelly are excellent - both can come in two varieties - sweet or savoury


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Morticia
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 08:40 AM

There is no excuse for raw onion of any description in my opinion.

Just had smoked salmon and cream cheese on ciabatta.....aside from the small inconvenience of now being lightly dusted in flour, it was a fabulous buttie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:23 AM

Bacon and brie on a baguette, while the bacon is still hot enough to gooey the brie ... (((sigh)))

sian


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:29 AM

buttie?


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Morticia
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:45 AM

sorry, Ron..buttie is slang for sandwich here in the Chilly Isles ( U.K)


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:53 AM

*gasp* Morti! I never would have taken you for an anti-onion heretic!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 09:53 AM

Vegemite - with thin slices of a granny smith (tarter rather than sweeter) apple...
Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:30 PM

"Bacon on toasted white crusty bread with HP sauce"

Guest Sledge, enlighten me. What is HP sauce? Is that a puree of crushed printer?


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: M.Ted
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:34 PM

A bit of red onion on that salmon with cream cheese would have been perfect, Morticia--well, not perfect, to be perfect, it would have to be on a toasted New York bagel--a chocolate egg cream would make it more than perfect--


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 12:41 PM

M. Ted - wouldn't adding a chocolate egg cream make the bagel soggy?

Lox with cream cheese and chives....


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: M.Ted
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:13 PM

The egg cream would be gone before the bagel was even toasted--


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Morticia
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:36 PM

*hangs head in shame at causing such disappointment in a friend*....but I really do hate onion unless minced very, very finely and used as a flavouring in cooked things....otherwise it's just sick, bad and wrong.

HP sauce is a dark brown, savoury sauce which comes in a bottle....I think it's made of fruit....mostly....and Brits eat it with those things they don't smother in ketchup. Don't have much use for it myself except with Cornish Pasties.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 02:40 PM

Vidalia onions rule!!!!!

I've learned to accept the onion in my life, and I really enjoy red onions on sandwiches. When I was kid I would run and hide from them, but as my tastebuds matured I discovered that they are indeed nature's candy!!!!   :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 06:53 PM

Where I come from (Montreal) Smoked meat IS A RELIGION! (And not my religion I might add)...even Goys will get into heated arguments about the merits of Ben's, Dunn's, Schwartz's etc.

You can come close in Toronto at a couple (only) of Delis but it ain't the same.

However........the best sandwich I EVER had was at a little Italian place on Clinton st. here: Hero bun, veal cutlet (fried) and tomato sauce. They've become a chain so faggedaboudit.

My fantasy sandwich is the Lobster bun as described by Kendall, but I only had one once, mmmmmmmm

As far as anything we make at home, Heather shows that "British touch" and does a lot of mashed banana stuff. Me? Grilled cheese.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Oct 03 - 07:38 PM

"There is no excuse for raw onion of any description in my opinion."
YES!

oh, Mortica, will you marry me?...no, wait, you have that all taken care of..and I have one wife already...but, you have a little part of my heart..*smile*

Onion is fine, used as flavoring in reasonable amounts and DISGUISED! I used to patronize an Italian shop for sandwiches, and had to complain LOUDLY, as adding onion was almost a knee-jerk reaction for this one guy...before I was finished, he would greet me by saying "oh yes...a big slice of RED onion beteween two slices of white onion!"

It is 'interesting' struggling with those whose idea of a recipe is to cut up an onion and then see what you have to go with it,,....


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 05:30 AM

HP sauce is a British invention, more like a BBQ sauce than tomato - I have a friend who is allergic to tomatoes, even in sauce, but can handle HP sauce - it comes in cute tallish distinctive square sided bottles with a screw plastic cap. It is available easily in Australia, and has been so for ages.

~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bill D - Raw onion has one great use.

Slice onion and raw ripe mangoes, mix, and let stand for a couple of hours in a cool place. A VERY little salt too is ok - too much and the whole thing dissolves into soup as the salt works - same way as icing sugar on strawberries turns them into juice.

Result - the raw onion taste disappears, and the mango gains a subtlety of flavour that is indescribly good. Don't tell your friends what it is until after they taste it or they will refuse most likely - once they have tasted it, most will be so intrigued that you will have to serve it every time they come over.

One of my aunties invented this in the 1950's - used to be the star dish at the CSIRO Sugar Cane Research Station Formal Dinners - always served when the State Governor and other such dignitories came for Formal Inspections.

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 06:57 AM

A hot Salt Beef sandwich.
Cheddar cheese and marmalade.
Hot Bagel and Lox with Cream Cheese
A well made BLT
All on brown bread, bar the bagel of course.

The first thing I had to eat in New York was Hot Pastrami on Rye, something that occurred in many books I'd read of the Mike Hammer school. So I took the subway to Grand Central Station, and turned left outside walked about 100 yards across the first intersection, and found a Deli, went in and ordered. It was really worth waiting for.

Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 07:37 AM

Oh forgot!! HP stands for Houses of Parliament and there's a picture of them on the label, ironically it is now owned by Danone, a French company.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Nancy King at work
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 10:58 AM

Roast turkey with stuffing and cranberry sauce has long been a seasonal (week after Thanksgiving and week after Christmas...) favorite, but my real all-time fave is peanut butter and bacon on white toast.

Cheers, Nancy


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 12:20 PM

New York does have some good sandwich places. Katz's deli is (of course) Kosher, all meat, though you have to watch it or you get a lot of fat in the slice. It's down on the Lower East Side off Delancey.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 12:58 PM

Salt beef washed down with a pint of Youngs in the Lord Clyde. If only they would serve that on Sundays it would make the English Music Sessions total heaven.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Emma B
Date: 04 Oct 03 - 06:35 PM

Didn't know that HP is now owned by Danone I guess that explains the absence of "cette sauce de haute qualite est un melange des fruits orientales etc..."


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Helen
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 01:32 AM

I haven't read everyone's suggestions yet, but IMHO you can't beat a nasturtium leaf sandwich on fresh, soft white bread with butter.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Helen
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 02:11 AM

Sandra,

Not a sandwich, but try this Middle Eastern recipe: slice some bananas and dates and smother them in cream. Put them in the frig for a couple of hours until all the flavours combine. Heaven!

Jeri,

Peanut butter - with tomato, or with crispy lettuce (my favourite), or with jam, or with honey, or with......... the choices are endless. After extolling the virtues of "peanut butter with" sandwiches someone once asked me if I hated peanut butter, meaning that I obviously needed to disguise the taste. Still haven't convinced hubby to be adventurous and try peanut butter & lettuce. If there is one thing I do before I die....... He doesn't know what he is missing.

BillD,

Have you been watching over my shoulder as I cook?   "It is 'interesting' struggling with those whose idea of a recipe is to cut up an onion and then see what you have to go with it,,...." By the time the onion has cooked I have had time to ferret out some other ingredients from the pantry, et voila! A meal!

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 04:00 AM

I'd like to point out that all of you are completely fucked up. I have eaten a majority of the delights listed here and some are truly excellent, but as to the BEST sandwich........There can be no doubt. If you have been to New Orleans and not eaten a Muffuletta, than I don't know why you were in New Orleans.

The "Muffy" is the complete sandwich with so many strong flavors that the end result is a true taste treat all it's own and second to none. They aren't cheap to prepare but your friends will think you are the world's greatest short order cook and a creative genius. Let's make one.......First prepare the "Olive Salad" mixture.

Olive Salad:
2/3 cup pitted and coarsely chopped green olives
2/3 cup pitted and coarsely chopped black olives
2/3 cup pearl onions, halved or whole
1/2 cup chopped pimiento
3 garlic cloves, minced fine
1 anchovy fillet, mashed
1 tablespoon capers
1/3 cup finely chopped parsley
1 teaspoon oregano
1/4 teaspoon coarse ground or cracked black pepper
1/2 cup olive oil

Mix the above in a glass bowl. This mixture is the key to the exotic taste.
Now you will need:
1 large loaf fresh Italian bread (round loaf preferred)
1/3 pound hard salami, sliced thin
1/3 pound Cappicola ham, sliced thin
1/3 pound Prosciutto ham, sliced thin
1/3 pound Provolone cheese, sliced thin
1/3 pound Mozzarella cheese, sliced thin
1/3 pound Alpine Lace Swiss, sliced thin
Thin slices of red onion
Thin slices of tomato
Finely chopped lettuce

Time to assemble the sandwich!!!!

Slice bread in half and hollow out both pieces---you have a lot of ingredients! Starting on the lower crust, spoon in a liberal amount of the Olive Salad. Now a layer of the first meat, a layer of the first cheese, a layer of the second meat, a layer of the second cheese, a layer of the third meat, a layer of the third cheese. Now add a layer each of the red onion, lettuce and tomato and reverse the previous process (Cheese 3,meat 3, cheese2, meat 2, cheese 1, meat 1) and top with Olive Salad. Put on the top crust.

Wrap in foil and bake in a 375 oven for 15-20 minutes on each side. Slice and eat.............and enjoy!!!! THere is no better sandwich.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 05:40 AM

Spaw that's a deli in a loaf not a sandwich.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 09:27 AM

But hey, it will serve 4 people!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Amos
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 10:00 AM

My gawd, Spaw!! You have way too much time on your hands! LOL!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Morticia
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 10:21 AM

Dear heavens, you could feed a third world country with that sandwich, Spaw!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 10:18 PM

Joe Offer, this counts as a food thread, and look at the recipe that appeared! Looks like this one needs to be linked to our growing list of seasonal cooking threads.

I haven't read the thread for a couple of days so I don't know if this one has been covered, but I must admit my delight the first time I sat and ate a hot turkey sandwich (open face hot turkey with gravy over the top) in front of the kids. They thought it looked "really gross, Mom!" I made each of them take a taste--and I was lucky to get any of the rest of it for myself. I don't make them often, but the room is silent except for knives and forks clinking on the plates when we have them for dinner!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Oct 03 - 11:32 PM

SRS, if your kids like that openface, pathetic thing, they will become orgasmic over Kentucky Hot Brown. Originally I gather it used pullet breasts, but that has been replaced with turkey. The following is my best recipe for making eight at a time in a baking dish.

SPAW'S KENTUCKY HOT BROWN

---You will need enough turkey for eight 2-layer sandwiches, preferably sliced white, although dark slices work well too....a matter of taste.
---Start by cooking one pound or more of bacon in a skillet. Cook soft and don't overcook as you will be baking it later. You need at least 20 strips of bacon
---While the bacon is frying, toast 24 slices of good bread. Use good bread, sourdough is excellent.
---Set aside the bacon strips and now lightly brown the turkey in the bacon grease. Just a bit on the crispy side.
---Set aside the browned turkey and use an appropriate amount of flour, salt, and water to make the grease into a thick gravy. Add a tablespoon of Worcestershire Sauce and a tablespoon or more of Cayenne Pepper Sauce. Add black pepper and garlic powder to taste, about a teaspoon each. Salt to taste.
---As the gravy cooks, add one package of frozen peas.


YOU ARE NOW READY TO ASSEMBLE
---You will need at least 4 cups of a sharp cheddar, shredded. Also cut your bacon strips in half to divide them up.
---Put a thin layer of the gravy on the bottom of the pan.
---Arrange eight slices of toasted bread on the bottom of the pan.
---Now put a bit of gravy on each slice of bread, then sliced turkey on this first layer, followed by a layer of cheese, bacon strips on each sandwich, then a layer of gravy.
---Put the second slice of bread on each sandwich and repeat what you did on the first layer.....a bit of gravy, turkey slices, cheese, bacon strips, gravy ... and then top with the final slices of bread.
---Cover the top slice of bread with gravy, bacon slices, and then a layer of cheese.
---Bake at 375 for about a half hour and then let stand for at least 15 minutes before serving.


SERVE AND EAT !!!!!!!

Now I gotta' tell you that if this ain't the best damn thing to do with leftover turkey, then I don't know what is!!! Don't scrimp on the turkey or any of the other ingredients. The only reason I cook turkey is to make Hot Brown and Turkey Pie. Enjoy!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 12:59 AM

OK Bill D, this one's for you... :-)

Sounds like you know about this bit of "secret cooks business" :-)

I have a friend who says her grandmother had one guaranteed cooking trick.

If she had been busy, and had not had time to have dinner cooked and on the table when the working men returned to the homestead in the evening, she would put just an onion on to fry in a pan, even if absolutely nothing else had been done about starting to prepare other food.

The men would smell the cooking onion, and not hassle her about not having dinner on the table, as they (being smart guys that they were), could tell that dinner was not far off, and would wash up, have a beer, chat about the day's work, and plan tomorrow, etc.

The by the time she called them, they would usually say that they were not ready for dinner yet...

:-)

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Gurney
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 03:37 AM

And on the terminology, sarnie, sammie, wad, buttie, they are all the same thing. A dagwood is a thick buttie in Oz and NZ. I've heard them called a wedge, but money seems to have replaced that usage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ringer
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 06:20 AM

If you are going to use bread and cheese, it is, apparently, important to get the thickness of the cheese-slice correct. Different thicknesses for different cheeses. Came across this just this morning: Click Here


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Sooz (at work)
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 07:55 AM

I thought the whole point of a sandwich was that you didn't need cutlery and could hold it in your hand without making a mess! Many of these use more utensils and time than a full meal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,Strollin' Johnny (trying to stay awake at wo
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 08:29 AM

You need at least a knife to cut the bread. Also, try cutting meat with your bare hands! (Sorry Sooz, sacrilege to mention the M-word I know, but some of us just lurve the stuff!)

The Elvis fried peanut butter and banana sarnie is the dog's bollox (so I'm told - never having had the pleasure) and wouldn't offend veggies??


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Peg
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:02 AM

nice open-faced sandwich recipe from the Moosewood cookbook:

Broccoli and Friends
Dice broccoli and onions finely and saute in butter with some salt, pepper, basil and thyme. Cook until broccoli is bright green and onions are translucent. Place on a slice of hearty bread (fresh baked sourdough is nice) and top with grated cheddar cheese, then broil until melted and bubbly. Make at least two.

I guess you could put meat in this but it's very nice as is.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:10 AM

I was driving in New Paltz, NY yesterday and saw a restaurant whose theme was grilled cheese sandwiches! Talk about specialities!

I didn't have a chance to stop, but on the way home I picked up a loaf of potato bread, Velvetta cheese (it's a must!), and some bacon. A great sandwich!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:21 AM

Spaw, your recipe sounds better than the original Hot Brown recipe I got from the niece of a cook at the Brown Hotel (where it originated)! Around here they even sell special Hot Brown oven-safe crockery dishes on which to serve the Hot Browns.

Lately I've been eating salami sandwhiches, open-faced, toasted on wheat bread, with American cheese, tomato, and horseradish mustard. The mustard is important.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:28 AM

Good god, Spaw, that thing will send you to coronary central in a hurry! (Sounds great, but I would only be able to eat a couple of bites before it was too rich for me! Can you make it with soy cheese?)

I didn't tell you that the turkey breast I use has always been selected to be free of the whatever-percent solution they often inject into poultry (compensating because they presume that we will over cook it and that it needs tons of salt). I smoke it with some nice hickory or mesquite chips in my smoker, usually one pan is enough, for about an hour and a half. I bake it to perfection, keeping all of the drippings, and the nice smoky flavor goes into the gravy. It usually goes atop fresh homemade whole wheat bread.

It may not have tons of layers and be as labor intensive as yours, but with the quality of the ingredients, less is more!

It's an overcast rainy day here in Texas. Time for something warm and filling for dinner. Maybe I'll head over to the store and see if I can't find myself a nice turkey breast to smoke for dinner. Some nice chard from the garden on the side, and baked potatoes. Then tomorrow I'll make a loaf of bread and we'll have the turkey sandwiches. Mmmmmmm. . .

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:37 AM

Well, all the talk of onions (not to mention broccoli, Peg) is pretty off-putting. I won't go through my "Why onions ruined my life" story again, but just seeing the word is starting to make me sick, so I should be off to my therapist's any minute now.

What is salt beef?

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 11:03 AM

I'll have Rick's onions please. Onions are also a great source of fiber!   They are truly nature's candy!   Slice a vidalia and go to town!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 12:15 PM

An ointment that is all the rage for scar treatment (will considerably reduce them, even old scars) is called Mederma. The active ingredient is onion! They've treated it to reduce the scent, but you can still tell when you smell it. My plastic surgeon (who treated a bad cat bite a couple of years ago) said if I ate an onion a day I'd probably get the same effect.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 12:42 PM

ah, Robin..*grin*..If **I** came home to the smell of fried onion, I'd head off to the local Chinese takeout! (after serving divorce papers!)....well, not really, and sometimes she does cook some onion for herself and the kid, but usually it's just small amounts to mix thoroughly into a recipe, and I can tolerate that.

I do have a friend who totally despises ANYTHING with onion in it and can detect amounts that usually require laboratory analysis.

and Rick...I ordinarily hate broccoli and related veggies, but my mother-in-law made a broccoli casserole that was served over rice that I not only could eat, but asked for more...*shrug*...you never know...


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 01:04 PM

Wow... I am shocked at the anger against the flavor-filled onion!!!   Picky eaters!!!!!

Fry em up or serve em raw!!! Finest kind!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 01:25 PM

Ron - I'm surprised too; after all onion-ness is next to garlick-ness; and everyone knows that garlick is the food of the gods.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 01:34 PM

You are so right Mario! mmmmmm..... garlic!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 01:37 PM

anger? naawwww...'sensitivity'!!! *grin*..."de gustibus non disputandem est" thank the powers that may or may not be for Garlic & Onion salt and powder!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 01:54 PM

When I was a kid, I HATED onions with a passion. I would freak if I found them in any of my mother's recipes.

One day, I tried French Onion soup and I fell in love with the little devils.

I'm thinking of another great sandwich now - saugage & peppers. Nice hot Italian sausage smothered in fried onions and peppers on a firm (but still soft) Italian roll.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 01:58 PM

HEY SRS.......Those things are only for special occasions!!!! A diet of them would kill ya'!!! BTW, my last cholesterol check was 136 with correspondingly good LDL,HDL, and triglycerides. But once in awhile it's just WORTH IT!!!!!(:<))

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 02:20 PM

I'm glad you clarified that, Spaw!

Rick, avert your eyes at the discussion of broccoli and other fresh veggies--we'll try to be sensitive to your tender insides. My mother loved broccoli but couldn't eat it (or many other cruciferous veggies like cabbage and cauliflower) after chemo.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Emma B
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 04:32 PM

PAN BAGNAT - literally soaked bread
A whole Salad Nicoise on a large round piece of French country bread;
but only truly works if eaten in it's native Provence on a hot summers day under a vine trellis with a good local wine and somehow loses something in a wet and cold British October


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 10:55 PM

Bill D
I have some friends who are allergic to various foods, including tomatoes, and chillis.

Well since we don't want to turn this into a music thread, I'll just post a link or two...

DT: GARLIC SONG
Lyr Req: The Juice of the Garlic
As Sung by Deborah Wright in the Movie
"Garlic is as good as 10 mothers".

Now what we need is a good song about onions to go with this thread.

Out here in Matilda Land, we had for a few years a complete dearth of French Onion Soup, Powdered and otherwise. Wondered if the only factory in Lower Slobodovia had burnt down... but now it's back.

Powdered FOS, mixed with soft cream cheese, makes a great party dip - you can add other ingredients, including dried fruit (keep in fridge for a few hours) and even various types of alcohol!

Robin


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Amergin
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 11:27 PM

jesus....they should stop calling these dagwoods...and start calling them pattersons.....boy, sppaw...they look good...

I was the one with the blt above...

I love frying good bacon...get the lettuce and the tomatos together...and sautee the mushrooms in the grease...and then fry the bread in the grease as well...but don't forget the avacados...


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 03 - 11:34 PM

BLTs where I grew up were made with homemade bread, toasted, smeared liberally with mayonaise (about the only time I eat much mayo, except in tuna or potato salad), good fresh lettuce and homegrown tomatoes so ripe from the garden that the acid in them will just about disolve the enamel off of your teeth. Put the sandwich together with bacon fried crisp--mmmmmm, a summer sandwich to die for!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: GUEST,JOHN OF ELSIE`S BAND
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 06:05 AM

There surely cannot be a best sandwich but sometimes MARMITE on
lightly toasted brown granary hits the spot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 06:13 AM

Thanks Nathan.......This damn thread has got me going.....This could be a Muffy weekend......or I might try a couple of others from this list.

AND MARY FROM KY......Hi Ftiend......Ya' know I ate those things all over Kentucky and Tennessee and created my own recipe based on the best things from several different places.   It's still the same sandwich, just tweaked to the most richness and taste. When I've given my recipe to people the biggest problem they all seemed to have was making the gravy. Everyone tries to cut back on the fat and skimp on the whole thing. To me, since you don't eat these things but only once or twice year, you just cheat yourself. Also it seems tha gravy making is joining the ranks of "lost arts." BTW, using Maple flavor bacon adds a litle more too, just about to the point of, "My gawd, even I can'y eat this thing!!!"

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Bassic
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 07:20 AM

Just found this thread.

Grilled Bacon (not smoked), fried egg (still runny), a few lightly fried and sliced large mushrooms and sliced FRESH tomato, crusty white loaf (the sort that makes "that sound" as the bread knife cuts through it, dont laugh, I cant describe it! Its not as harsh as a saw through wood and not as intimidating as a dog growling in its throat but you know the sound when you hear it, and the bread always tasted lovely!!)

And yes Morticia, thank you for coming out of the "closet" with regard to that pernicious instrument of gastronomic torture, the onion!! I thought I was the only one!!
I have gone through life being sneered at, made fun of, having my dinner money stolen by the "big kids" and generally being "put down" at my resistance to the "Global Onion Conspiracy".
The only good thing to do with an onion is to cut it into VERY tiny pieces, put it in vigorously boiling water for at LEAST 3 days or until all evidence of its existence has long since disappeared to the naked eye. An essential part of this process is that the cook dances round the pot mumbling, "got you you evil little b********" and the CD has to be playing "Another one Bites the Dust" set on "repeat play" for the whole of the cooking period.

At that stage it acquires a subtlety of flavour which is appropriate, (i.e. I cant taste it and it dosnt make me ill for the next 24 hours!) Then and only then, should it be considered as a POSSIBLE addition to things like a stew when cooking for others so that you can honestly say "yes, it has onion in it".

And whilst I am on the subject! I HATE it when I go to every sandwich shop in the known world, reject the mandatory "do you want onion on that" offer, and then have the wonderful subtle flavour of the other ingredients POLUTED BY ONION because the assistant used the same knife which is ALWAYS covered in onion juice from the previous sandwich it was used for!! The onion is PERNICIOUS and all instruments which come into contact with them should be sterilised in an Auto harp after use!!

So there!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Partridge
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 08:05 AM

I like mashed banana on wholemeal bread topped with fried crispy bacon.

Also lancashire cheese and apple is good.

Pat x


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 10:49 AM

I made the smoked/baked turkey breast last night. So tender and moist, but my 11-year-old son informed me that he doesn't eat turkey unless it is on bread and covered with gravy! We had a good laugh about how this picky eater discovered these sandwiches when I compelled him to try just one bite from my plate a couple of years ago. Another dish he really likes is Chicken Marsala (like they fix at the Olive Garden Restaurant chain). As with the turkey sandwich, he was sure he'd hate it. I had he and his sister each taste one bite of mine and they nearly inhaled the rest of it off of my plate. Same with the turkey sandwiches.

Before I head to work this morning I'm going to set up the bread machine. I'll put in my ingredients for whole wheat bread, and set the timer so it will finish baking at about the time we walk in the house. Both kids inquired about the gravy ingredients last night when I was slicing and refridgerating the rest of the turkey. Yes we have the drippings (I also made a quick batch of stock from the bones and skin and trimmings, before tossing them).

This has been a great thread, and my children are delighted that I decided to act on impulse and pick up a turkey breast yesterday. Prices are going up as we get into this holiday season--I got the last one in the meat market at $1.99 a pound, they're now all $2.49 a pound.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 11:05 AM

LOL at SRS.....We're havong Chicken Marsala tonite!!! My one son, Michael is really odd about food.....drives me nuts. He'll love something and the next time you have it, he hates it. I want to hit him with a brick.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 11:37 AM

Spaw, that rock will have already been used around here a couple of times. This week it's scrambled eggs. He couldn't get enough of them--up until this week. Now he doesn't want them. He'd eat French toast three times a day if I let him--so if next week he tells me he NEVER EVER liked French toast, well, you know the scenario, right?

Our chicken marsala is a made-up recipe to approximate what we get at Olive Garden. What do you put in yours? (Mine basically is sauteed chicken breast, mushrooms, a sauce made from the drippings and some boullion and cornstarch; some kind of chunky pasta to go under it. The wine flavor is whatever I happen to have in the fridge).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 12:30 PM

About the same....a hint of Rosemary. We have used wines other than Marsala so we always name it after the wine. Tonite I actually do have Marsala because last time we had it the wine was simply too damn sweet......and Ohio winery product, Chicken Catawba!!! Karen picked up some Marsala the other day and said the Catawba was over the edge.....I had to agree.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 12:53 PM

We tend to have Chicken Chardonay. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: vectis
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 07:17 PM

Cheese and marmite with homemade mixed grain bread can't be beaten.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best sandwich?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Oct 03 - 10:52 PM

vectis - you have to butter the bread first...
Robin


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