BS: Who designs .......

Subject: BS: Who designs .......
From: Sooz
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 06:15 AM

Non-designer gear?
The youth of today go on about designer clothes etc (which to me means massed produced brand name gear I wouldn't be seen dead in)so who designs the non-designer clothes?
Doesn't an article have any value any more if it is a one-off?

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 06:54 AM

Make them all do National Service Sooz that'll teach them to dislike all being dressed and tonsorially trimmed the the same way.
Not I hasten to add in order that they may be sent to take part in misbegotten adventures on foreign soil like the present little fracas in Iraq.
I had in mind more community based work like litter and graffitti removal, helping old ladies across the road and the like.
Giok ☺

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 07:09 AM

The desire for a sense of belonging which is part of being young is exploited by advertising designed to make impressionable adolescents feel that they are commiting some transgression by displaying any individuality.
"People who think for themselves wear brand x, because everybody else does." seems to be the order of the day.
Result?
Cold grey uniformity.The commercialisation of existence continues unabated.
Not a chirpy thought.

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Mar 06 - 07:37 AM

When I was younger, i wanted to be different, I wore blue jeans and grew my hair long. Didn't take up the guitar though... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: Dead Horse
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 05:57 AM

Think about it Giok. Suppose those old ladies DONT want to go???

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 07:28 AM

"When I was younger, I wanted to be different, I wore blue jeans and grew my hair long."

When I got older, I realised I had been just the same as everybody else wearing blue jeans with long hair...

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 08:42 AM

As nearly as I can tell, the difference between designer casual clothing and non-designer casual clothing is the presence of a logo which tells everyone that "I spent at least three times as much for this shirt as you did for the one you're wearing."

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: Kaleea
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 04:40 PM

Ah, the latter 60's/turn of 70's-where we antiestablishmentarianists decided to nonconform & we all wore bluejeans, tshirts, long straggly hair & flashed the peace signs as we all sang the same songs from the radio.

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: Mo the caller
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 02:42 PM

Yes but you were being different. From boring, respectable, conformists like I was in those days. And from your parents, which was the whole point.

I find I'm in fashion now, with my split jeans (or are they out again, or are they only fashionable if split in places that normally get no wear?)

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: gnomad
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 03:15 PM

If it were only the young who were so affected it would be less of a worry, you could expect them to realise the folly of it as they matured. I worry about those of my own generation (50s) who exhibit the same symptoms.

As for any old ladies who are unwilling co-operate in our programme of enforced pavement reassignment we will introduce a bill providing for them to receive ASBOs. They will be tagged, and required to make themselves available for relocation and/or mugging at all times. They will also wear hi-visibility tabbards so that everyone knows who is failing in their duty to society. This scheme is, of course, entirely voluntary; they may prefer to surrender all future rights to care or pensions from the community, or they can emmigrate to South Georgia in disused cattleboats (which we are calling "The Third Way"), we do believe in choice. But we have a target for the elimination of recalcitrant pensioners, and we will not be diverted from it by silly sentimental considerations...Next year your Emperor will be in Moscow...

Hello Matron...Oh right, I'll come quietly...but not the Dunlop suite this time please, I'm strictly a Pirelli man these days.

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 03:38 PM

Then again, there are those of us who chose to dress (and furnish our homes) by serendipity -- what I find that appeals to me at yardsales, consignment shops, Goodwill, flea markets and antique shops. I like to think I'm intelligent, creative and frugal -- not to mention leaving a small footprint on the earth's resources.

And I haven't watched television since 1983. And listen to public (non-commercial) radio.

I like the thrill of the chase -- looking really good while spending next thing to nothing.

Does Dubyah consider me to be unpatriotic because I'm not a "consumer"? Probably. (Oh, damn.)

Oh, and I prefer not to wear logos on the outside of my apparel.

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: Mo the caller
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 04:40 AM

"Well sister, you must leave, but tell me, who was the father?"
"I don't know, but he had St.Michael on his underpants."


Someone else can explain that one to the Americans.

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 11:30 PM

Who can tange the intangible! Why is there a use-by date on sour cream?

Why do they call it designer gear. The last truly new clothing design was when Wriggly started shaping her skins before she tied them on. It's hardly aeroscience.
'Designing' also means to have a hidden agenda for advancing your own interests, though, so maybe it isn't so silly.

I'll see them all damned before I BUY their advertising.

Subject: RE: BS: Who designs .......
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 02:46 AM

When my aunt, now an energetic and still independent octogenarian, bought a blouse in LA she wanted the logo to be removed (imagine! a label on the outside of a garment!)
The seller remonstrated: "But it is a designer blouse!"
My aunt: "I'll be damned if I run around advertising your bloody designers on my blouse!"
I think it a good story to illustrate Bee's contribution.

And Giok - the antimilitarists (against rearmament in the fifties) in my country ran around uniformed with American drab surplus greatcoats (parkas) which thence were called Korea greatcoats.

Coincidence: Just yesterday I read Mark Twain again, and found this:
But as a rule our self-approval has its source in but one place and not elsewhere - the approval of other people.
(Europe and Elsewhere: Corn-Pone Opinions)