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BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4

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Subject: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 01 Jun 25 - 06:17 AM

The Part 3 thread is getting close to the visibility limit. Let discussions continue here.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 03 Jun 25 - 08:30 AM

Refresh, to hoist above Part 3.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Jun 25 - 03:32 PM

What are you trying to hoist? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Your intention can help address issues like high blood pressure.
A little pill is better than a stroke.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 04 Jun 25 - 12:34 PM

The chop-off limit for overlong threads is somewhere between 500 and 700, but I don't know quite where. I'm attempting to head off the vanishment (of the Part 3 thread) before it happens, ol' bean.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jun 25 - 12:44 PM

That'll work!


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jun 25 - 12:19 PM

I'm not an ol bean. I am a green soy has bean.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Jun 25 - 04:26 PM

Beggars can't be choosers - someone interested enough in the subject matter (wide / deep / shallow / profane) of these threads to keep them going is rare these days. Amos and Little Hawk/Chongo were big players back in the day. There are quite a few notables still around but who probably never drop in any more.

You can see fragments of the original MOAB but you find them by searching on the contributor - backtrack to their past posts and open any of them they shared on MOAB. It's an archaeological process these days.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jun 25 - 06:55 PM

Spaw ruled in original truthfulness.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jun 25 - 08:25 PM

Black hole technology makes for interesting sci-fi grist but I favor ultra high voltage engines that deal with plasma electrodynamics in a toroidal fashion. Tesla and dozens of inventors would agree that ultimate electric power generation has remarkable side benefits. The powers that be on Earth have dealt with those inventors with extreme prejudice.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 25 - 10:20 PM

Mom continues! She lives, and I have returned from the Great Basin.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Jun 25 - 10:47 PM

The Great Basin? That's a rather broad swath of the western US even for a swathbuckler like you. Did you visit a particular portion of it?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 25 - 07:01 AM

Isn't the Great Salt Lake puddle part of the Great Basin?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jun 25 - 10:59 AM

I trekked every square millimeter of it. I couldn’t go above 15,000 feet of elevation however. Overall it was a good trip, much of it spent under the Dark Skies of the NP.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bei mir bist do schön
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 25 - 03:54 PM

Of all the goys I've known, and I've known some
When I first met you, you were loathsome
And when you came down the escalator
This new world became as old as yourself

You're really swell-headed, and ignorant
Deserving expressions that really fit you
And so I've racked my brain, hoping to explain
All the things that you do to me

My dear Mister Trump, with small hands and a stump
My dear Mister Trump, you are a grump
My dear Mister Trump, again I'll explain
I mean you're the least fair in the land

u will never understand


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Jun 25 - 05:45 PM

WHAT are you doing waaaaaay down at the bottom? Get up where the people are and stay there.


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Subject: RE: All in the family part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jun 25 - 07:03 PM

Boy, the way Bing Crosby played
golf that made his driver fade
Guys like me we had it made
Those were the days
Didn't need abortion fate
ev'rybody pulled his weight
gee our Oldsmobile ran great
Those were the days
And you knew who you were then
girls were girls and men were men
Mister we could use a man like Gen'ral Jackson again
People seemed to be content
fifty dollars paid the rent
freaks lived in a circus tent
Those were the days
Take a little Sunday spin
go to watch the Yankees win
or have yourself a lynching day
where white folks wore a big grin
those were the days
Hair was short and skirts were long
Kate Smith really sold a song
I know exactly what went wrong
Those were the days
The Klan had a really nifty plan
Everybody understands
what their place is in this land
Those were the days

Now that UFOs are real
What's the big fat hairy deal
They've been here all along
Those were the days.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 07:03 AM

Opposite-spinning toroidal plasma creates an electrodynamic gravity repulsion that also generates massive amounts of electricity in a very small generator. We all could have one if it wasn't for oil company repression,


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 11:07 AM

And the temperature of the reaction?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 07:03 PM

I'm lucky to just spell toroidal but the temps are not like those of fusion. Plasma is hot but not impossibly hot in such small amounts.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 07:14 PM

A large generator would ionize the air around it in a bright light field, which could be insulated against... somehow.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 08:04 PM

Vera Rubin is FINALLY honored as one of the most important astronomers of our times.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/23/nx-s1-5355034/vera-c-rubin-observatory-first-images


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jun 25 - 10:23 PM

Note in picture 2 that the two large white galaxies are spinning in opposite directions...


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 11:01 AM

So far all our deep space probes and Mars rovers have used radioisotope electric generators. The next generation of electric generators will be these toroidal plasma electric generators, which are, candidly, more reverse-engineered technology than not.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 12:22 PM

I've been looking around YouTube this morning for an old lecture by an old guy that I'm sure gnu originally shared with us years ago. To do with how gravity fed water can create great pressure, but it wasn't a lecture about hydroelectric dams. It was on a much smaller scale.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 12:55 PM

You're right, Stilly, though I *think* I got the information by following a lead down the rabbit hole in Wikipedia the other month. It's not volume you need to create great static pressure, just height and gravity; from memory, that trick was used in mining in antiquity.

--- Gotcha: Ruina montium, linked from the Pascal's Barrel reference. Is that the basic information you were after?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 01:09 PM

That was quick - and getting very close. Yes, I remembered the discussion of artesian wells in the lecture, and the reference to ancient uses. He was applying it to the generation of power (probably to turn turbines or create steam) but it wasn't hydropower. I don't see a link to the lecture - he explained it clearly, and that's what I'm going for.

MOM says you earned yourself a beer out on the screened in porch. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jun 25 - 07:28 PM

The Roman aquaducts used part of this principle to make water go uphill.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jun 25 - 03:59 PM

Friend and guardian of the forests, friend of man's best friends, and part of the garrison to protect artifacts, this person lends a hand without fanfare. Experienced in the sacrifice of parenting, sustenance has become a masterful art from the earth to the table. Policing those who should be friends and teaching how to simplify home environments, there is an ever-growing expertise in research. When two dimensions are not enough, three dimensions open a new understanding. I am a volunteer's volunteer, like an artist who is an actor's actor.
Who am I?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jun 25 - 01:18 PM

If the plane you are on flies through a cloud you probably felt a bumpy ride. When you consider that an average cumulus cloud weighs about a million pounds the wild ride is easy to understand.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jun 25 - 05:19 PM

The growing application of nuclear power has introduced the problem of materials changed by exposure to high-energy nuclear radiation. The steels that make up the primary containment vessels of nuclear reactors may undergo progressive embrittlement with neutron bombardment. Embrittlement is relative and may be small or large; it is important in either case because of the major function served by the vessel and the economic implications of overly conservative design and operating practice as a result of uncertainties.

A hydrogen bubble at 3 Mile Island did not blow up the reactor, but it did at Fukushima and Chernobyl. Today, there is a spherical form of nuclear fuel that will not melt down, but it will not be used at the newly proposed nuclear plant on the shores of Lake Ontario. There are several nuke plants on the shore of Lake Ontario, including Ginna and Nine Mile Point. Ginna is so old that it should have been shut down 30 years ago, but it is still going.

I guess this is part of the Trump drill baby drill fanaticism, but like war, it is a racket that makes money for a few and can have ruinous consequences for millions of others for a very long time.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Jun 25 - 06:29 PM

3 Mile Island did have a hydrogen burn heard as a loud Thump clear across the river, but did not have a supersonic explosion.
The billion-dollar EPA clean-up is far from finished, so I wonder if the Trump cuts will leave the melted fuel in the middle of the Susquehanna River.

I lived upriver from the plant and felt a highly unusual nausea in my spine after day 1. I went to California for the week.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jul 25 - 10:01 AM

Okay, MOM. It’s just two months before I go to Nome. I’ll check on that ladies’ boarding house you ran there.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Jul 25 - 10:43 AM

An uncle had a gold mine in Alaska somewhere. Now might be the time to check it out.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jul 25 - 04:31 PM

https://www.mapquest.com/us/alaska/womens-shelter-352818593


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jul 25 - 05:55 AM

This is Final Tap with the deficit turned up to 11.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jul 25 - 06:31 AM

Mr. ICE vigilante


You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear of kicked children
Out of our world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say I should go
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm smarter than you
That even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good?
Will it buy you forgiveness?
Do you think that it could?
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death will come soon
I'll follow your casket
By the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand over your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

Bob Dylan


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Jul 25 - 10:39 AM

It turns out that I am younger than the youngest member of Black Sabbath on their last comeback concert. I bet the band and audience all have hearing aids.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jul 25 - 12:50 PM

The mayor of Kerrville TX was told not to mention that there was no 1 AM phone warning of the flood until 5 AM at the Governor's press conference.

The Trump decimation of the weather service and all the science climate groups and responders like FEMA was to eliminate mention of climate change and put that money toward the wealthy tax cuts.
No one told Trump to think it through. Now he says the weather service did their job.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 Jul 25 - 02:17 PM

> I bet the band and audience all have hearing aids.

.... turned up to 11.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jul 25 - 10:05 AM

Hold onto your illusions of beauty and joy.
Teachers, religions, and politicians grew
limitations to freedom meant to destroy.
The sky can be any color, not just blue.

but beauty belongs to you.

The most glorious truths are illusions
That does not mean they're not real.
Life in the sea and land aren't delusions.
They are as real as the way you feel.

but beauty belongs to you.

We are just an interface that translates.
Reality goes farther than we can see
Illusions like the heavenly gates
for some is as real as can be.

but beauty belongs to you.



donuel


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Subject: RE: BS: Joke thread for 2025
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jul 25 - 11:14 AM

The key to happiness is lowered expectations.

No lower....

Even lower...

There you go.




Money is not the key to happiness
But if you can afford it,
you can have a key made.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Jul 25 - 12:40 PM

MOM is intrigued that there is a large orb spider web on the screen porch. It's near the porchlight, so applicants present themselves for the dinner menu nightly. Watching a spider eat beetles is more entertaining than politics and other social activities these days.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jul 25 - 11:51 AM

Musk is no genius when it comes to launching a Mars mission from Earth. It is far more wise to stage and build the spacecraft from lunar orbit and shield the craft with water from lunar polar ice.

Its only a couple days journey to lunar orbit that limits exposure to solar and cosmic radiation. Spending a year or more in an unshielded craft all the way to Mars is a good way to kill astronauts if you give a damn.

Yes we have had astronauts in lower Earth orbits for a year but that still limits radiation poisoning with the Earth's magnetic shield.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jul 25 - 05:48 PM

The betrayal of the MAGA fan.
sung by Ella Fitzgerald spinning in the grave



After one whole quart of brandy
Like a daisy, I'm awake
With no Alka-Seltzer handy
I don't even shake
Trump is not a new sensation
I've done pretty well, I think
But this half-ton imitation
Put me on the blink

I'm wild again, beguiled again
A simpering, whimpering child again
baited, bothered and bamboozeled - am I

Couldn't sleep and wouldn't sleep
When Trump came and told me, I shouldn't sleep
baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I


Lost my mind, but what of it
He is cold, I agree
He can laugh, but I love it
Although the laugh's on me

I'll vote for him, and midterms for him
And long for the day when we'll cling to him
baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I


He's a fool and don't I know it
But a fool can have his charms
I'm all in and don't I show it
Like a babe in arms
Trumps's the same old sad sensation
Lately I've not slept a wink
Since this half-pint imitation
Put me on the blink

I've sinned a lot, I mean, a lot
But I'm like Q of QAnon
baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I


I voted for him, did midterms for him
And worship the hair style that clings to him
baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I


When he talks, he is seeking
Words to get off his chest
Off the monitor speaking
He's at his very best

Vexed again, perplexed again
Thank God, I can be ever blessed again
baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I


Wise at last, my eyes at last
Are cutting you down to your size at last
baited, bothered and bamboozled - no more

Burned a lot, but learned a lot
And now you are King, so you earned a lot
baited, bothered and bamboozled - no more

Couldn't eat, was short on cash
Life's so hard as fascist
Now my heart's antiseptic
Since you don't seem to care

Bromance, finis; your chance, finis
Those antics that invaded my mind, finis
baited, bothered and bamboozled
- no more


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Jul 25 - 05:39 PM

Mom, you know what we've been up to the last 48 or so hours. It all seems to be straightened out now, and I'm triple twisting and triple distilling our network safeguards. No, I think the thing came about by social engineeering somewhere, but I'm not taking any chances.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jul 25 - 07:44 PM

Has anyone else gotten a Fed Ex stating that you should self deport yourself before ICE agents are deployed. This week Rosie O' Donnel was told her citizenship is to be removed.

During this moral and financial vacuum, so far, half of it is for show.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 13 Jul 25 - 06:41 AM

> half of it is for show

I thought it was *all* performative cruelty (cf the migrants issue here in the Zeroth State): circuses to distract from the shortages of bread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Joke thread for 2025
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 25 - 11:17 AM

What is the difference between a critic and a puppy?
With time, training and patience, it is possible to make a puppy stop whining.

Critics are to comedy writers what dogs are to trees.

The unpaid profession of being a heckler is dropping now that guard jobs are hiring at Trump's deportation prisons.

Title-Author Jokes
by Colin Blow and Kenda Poor
Get Your Eyes Tested
by Seymore Clearly
My Motorbike Accident
by Kay Moffatt
Drinking Too Much Water
by I. P. Allott
Ready To Go
by Sadie Word
Urine Sample
by Phil A. Beaker
Spending More Than You Earn
by Owen Munny
Too Tired To Go On
by Eli Downe
African Wildlife
by Ella Fants
I slipped up
by Ben Anaskin
I’ve Wet Myself
by Dan Pundies


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jul 25 - 03:58 PM

Half is for show and the rest is to foster fear. You have a point that it is all performative if it weren't for the actual torture camps here and in war zones and despotic foreign countries.

You strike me as a disciple of experience like Stilly but do you also have an advanced degree?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 14 Jul 25 - 06:01 AM

The acts in this theatre of cruelty are the show; the fear comes from the randomness of their application.

But may I suggest we discuss all this in other threads? MOM is beginning to look distinctly restless, if not downright thunderous, and we all know what *that* means.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jul 25 - 06:16 AM

I fully expect Ghislaine handled things like an Epstein client list.

Lightning Crack BOOM


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jul 25 - 12:13 PM

Oh, I have been to Ludlow Fair
And left my necktie God knows where
and down in lovely muck I’ve lain,
Happy, ‘til I rose again.
The sub it was the old sun yet,
And I was I, my things were wet.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jul 25 - 06:18 PM

Our dear Mr. Trump would lurk
at Jr. Miss America dressing rooms
He couldn't resist being a jerk.
When it came to Epstein, I assume
that rapist Trump did the worst.
When teenage Ivanka began to bloom
Daddy was likely her first.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Jul 25 - 06:19 PM

Where are you gonna go now?
Where are you going to land?
You could have stayed on Comedy Central
You sure have plenty of fans
You know you can't hold on forever
We all signed up together with you
You're not a present for your friends to open
You are still too young to be singin' the blues

[Refrain]
Ah, ah-ah, ah, ah
Ah-ah-ah, ah

[Chorus]
So goodbye Stephen Colbert
Where the gods of comedy howl
You were kicked out of your place on Late Night TV
It sure is a kick in the bowels
Back to the howlin' old owl in the woods
Huntin' the horny-orange toad
Oh, You need to decide where your future lies
Beyond the yellow brick road

[Refrain]
Ah, ah-ah, ah, ah
Ah-ah-ah, ah


[Verse 2]
What do you think you'll do, then?
I bet they shoot down the plane
It'll take you a couple of vodka and tonics
To set you on your feet again
You say there is no replacement
There's not many like you to be found
Comics who have got plenty
With talent and feet on the ground

[Refrain]
Ah, ah-ah, ah, ah
Ah-ah-ah, ah

[Chorus]
So goodbye Stephen Colbert
Where the gods of comedy howl
You were kicked out of your place on Late Night tv
It sure is a kick in the bowels
Back to the howlin' old owl in the woods
Huntin' the horny-orange toad
Oh, You need to decide where your future lies
Beyond the yellow brick road


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 25 - 09:06 PM

The grayness of Spring colors my soul
And the quiet river, full of flood,
Carries its sticks from eddy to eddy
Until at last
They find rest
On the soft, silent bottom of the sea.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Jul 25 - 11:26 PM

Do one about making fresh refrigerator pickles from garden cukes. And don't forget the garlic!


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jul 25 - 10:23 AM

Cruelly ripped from mothers’ bodies,
Flayed, remorselessly cut and chopped ,
Salt water splashed into fresh wounds,
Then later enjoyed amidst laughter..


How’s that, Stilly?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jul 25 - 07:20 PM

We have all recently been taught that the universe is expanding but if one takes a deep dive into Einstein's statistical universe it is an illusion of time from our perspective. This is because the universe is dispersed like a sponge with great voids surrounded by dense filaments of visible and dark matter that slows time but the voids have an opposite effect on time . The farther you measure through many voids to a distant point the more time will be skewed to our point of view.

The universe is not expanding in the way we first thought, based on Nobel Prize-winning ideas regarding Type 1A supernovas. We jumped at the clear illusion because we tend to think all regions of space are the same as where we are. We don't live in voids. Time is very different there.

It just goes to show ya how easy we jump at the Occam Razor solution when in fact there are forces beyond our first thought that are not obvious.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 25 - 05:40 AM

In a nutshell, there is expansion but not the exaggerated acceleration blamed on an unknown dark energy. I have also theorized that the inflation theory is primarily an illusion due to time dilation caused by mass and gravity.
Like an optical illusion, there are time illusions.
Enormous null voids contribute to the illusion. Similar to an atom or a bubble, the largest structures in the universe are empty.
These illusions are enticing, but like early Copernican thought that the Earth was the center of the universe, it is a trick of our mind's perspective.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 25 - 08:09 AM

Thanks to black holes, we have had about a hundred years to think in terms of space having no speed limit and time being so maluable as to be beyond absurdity. It has shown us that the nature of nature can be absurd from our perspective.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Jul 25 - 09:13 AM

When time ends at the singularity region, it transforms under incredible pressure into dark matter that wormholes its way into the universe. Meanwhile, the compressed matter transforms into a space-time that is independent of gravity.

If you find that this switching is bizarre you will find that Roger Penrose has been honored for his diagrams showing how this is done.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jul 25 - 11:42 PM

If Amos or gnu were still around this would be their kind of story. (Also of interest to others, but this is something they might share.)

“This Kills Big Oil in One Stroke”: Record-Breaking Solar Tech Slashes Hydrogen Costs by 70% and Sparks Energy Industry Uproar
In a groundbreaking advancement poised to revolutionize renewable energy, Chinese researchers have developed a novel method for solar-to-hydrogen conversion that dramatically enhances efficiency and reduces costs, potentially transforming the future of sustainable energy production.

It's your classic interesting science engineering article that is way over most of our heads.
The implications of this breakthrough are far-reaching. The ability to produce low-cost green hydrogen directly from seawater positions CZTS as a cornerstone for sustainable solar fuels and a circular hydrogen economy. This innovation could potentially redefine how we approach energy sustainability, aligning with global efforts to reduce carbon footprints and combat climate change.

With the PSLE strategy, the path to gigawatt-scale clean energy production becomes more tangible. As researchers continue to refine and enhance this method, the potential for widespread application becomes increasingly viable. The future of energy is indeed promising, as we inch closer to realizing a greener and more sustainable world.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jul 25 - 08:39 AM

WOW fertilizer and safe hydrogen fuel from solar cells and seawater?!

European news is not incumbered by big oil as American media seems to be.

Bad move for US tariffs on China if cheap energy is desired.
Meanwhile, Trump has defunded all climate change research and remediation programs.

Guess who will probably make Hydrogen hybrid electric cars?

Let's hope this is as earth-shattering as it sounds.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Jul 25 - 09:25 AM

Okay, I'm back from the DC Area. Notice that when I went, Trump flew to Scotland. He's afraid of me and what I can do to his little shenanigans.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jul 25 - 02:10 PM

Which fort did you see?


Science is a meticulous pain in the ass. It offers no guarantees that it will ideally advance our future, but it has had successes in our past. It has always done so in a nonlinear fashion. The challenge is whether it is employed as a weapon or a wonder for our lives. The defunding of science via the white christian nationalist project 2025 is like retreating to religious tribalism that troglodytes experienced in prehistory, all the way through the Renaissance.

Some may blame ourselves for being vulnerable to con men and psychopaths. That is a fault of our evolution and not each individual's philosophy. In today's atmosphere, we might even relitigate the Scopes monkey trial.

Insulated groups in the military-industrial congressional complex
have created the greatest threat to trust in government. If trust can be reclaimed in the government by way of honest disclosure, we may have a chance to advance science naturally.

Science is a close race, and America has been penalized by the Trump administration.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jul 25 - 02:18 PM

The ongoing threat is if science will advance weaponry or wonder in our lives.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Jul 25 - 07:41 PM

Or both. Look at the advances in aircraft made during WW2.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Jul 25 - 10:26 PM

Rap, when is the next time you'll be in Salt Lake City?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Jul 25 - 06:48 PM

Rosette Nebula


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 01:50 PM

Somewhat lost in the mist of historic ancestry is the remarkable, if not impossible, joining of the last descendant of Jesus and an Austrian ancestor of Hitler.

The Scottish McLeod family had protection from the Knights Templar in their time as the remaining descendants of Jesus, whose earlier roots had been in France. The small Island in the north of Scotland had suffered greatly in WWII by losing 1,000 of its young men. Then, at war's end, the drowning of 200 returning soldiers in the Stornaway harbor sinking of their ship. That left Mary McLeod, born in 1917, the last descendant.

In Germany, the Drumpf family had maternal descendants in Austria who included Maria Anna Schicklgruber: Adolf Hitler's paternal grandmother. A sister of Maria Anna, Gretchen had one child out of wedlock, who was Fred Trump's grandfather.

What do you get from the union of Hitler genes and Christ? Apparently, you get an amoral monster called Donald John Trump.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 02:00 PM

Fred Trump and Anna Maria were unaware of their unlikely ancestry, but their children ranged from the just to the conflicted to the amoral.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Aug 25 - 07:51 PM

The early root family of the Scottish McCleods was known as Saint Nuages in France and was defended by De Molay and associates.

In Germany, great-great-grandfather Drumpf was known to be an influential pimp.

As much as Donald Trump wants to brag about his German heritage, he has been advised to hide that side of his family.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Aug 25 - 06:25 PM

I dunno, Stilly. Almost certainly Thanksgiving-ish.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Aug 25 - 09:17 AM

GRANDFATHER Drumpf fled Bavaria to avoid the draft (soud familiar?) and went to the Klondike. He found gold by opening the "Arctic Hotel", a wayside tavern/brothel on the way to Dawson City. He took his "earnings" to NYC, where he bought real estate. Visiting Germany, he was to be arrested for draft-dodging but apparently money changed hands and he was allowed to return to the US.

Nice family. Makes me cautious about being an American of German descent.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Aug 25 - 09:36 AM

I had another new idea this morning. Just like adding sound to movies changed everything about the motion picture business, a leap in technology could change movies forever. A big screen will not be required. Instead, streaming data to 8K visual googles with a controller will allow the viewer to change their POV and move about with freedom.
The 'film' would never be the same twice with each viewing or among different observers. You could even move around an object or person that might block your view of something.

In this artificial holographic world, you become a participant in a brand-new way. Cameras would be both visual and laser scanners. The rendering would be AI. The theatres would own the googles, data, controllers, and headphones that would also have POV volume.

While some people would enjoy looking at a dynamic sunset from a mountaintop, others might dare to peer down the cliffside. I think you get the idea and possibilities now.

This could change motion pictures just like my idea for phone-controlled doorbells changed the doorbell.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Aug 25 - 02:57 PM

Then no one would have to go do much of anything....


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Aug 25 - 04:17 PM

Naw, they said that about internet porn. It may have cost us a generation of socially sound young men, but that's all.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Aug 25 - 09:55 AM

Like everything else there, Internet porn is REAL!


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Aug 25 - 10:31 AM

Today is Nagasaki day, which invites the question: Who is more likely to out crazy the other, Putin or Trump?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Aug 25 - 10:49 AM

Very funny Rap but;

My experience is that the internet has many examples of REAL; fraud, cons, exploitation, uninformed opinions, and that YouTube will not remove such posts.

While there are wonderful posts on YouTube, the lies, exaggerations, and criminal fraud are tolerated with equal time. You know, just like MOABS.

There are red flag warnings on some posts, which is an improvement.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 13 Aug 25 - 08:58 AM

Just got forward to the hydrogen-from-sunlight entry, and had to make this comment before continuing. There's two things (other than Big Oil money) that'll kill using hydrogen for fuel, except under extremely specialised circumstances like rocketry:

1) Hydrogen leaks like the bugger. The standard way to find a leak in a cryo situation (eg cooling down superconducting magnets) is to test for a helium leak, as it's almost as good at finding the least little leak as hydrogen, and it's easier to detect helium in vanishingly small amounts as there's not much of it in breathable air.

2) When hydrogen burns in air, the flame is invisible to the naked eye. The standard way in NASA of checking whether (and where) there's a hydrogen leak that's aflame is to carry a brush broom in front of yourself, bristles first, and see whether that catches fire.*

Put those two together, and *foom*. And *that*, medames et messieurs, is why the idea of using hydrogen as fuel gets, erm, shot down every time it's put forward, which is about once a decade.

* Perhaps that's where Sir Pterry got the idea from for CMOT Dibbler's patented dragon detector.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 13 Aug 25 - 09:18 AM

Heads-up VR cinema: methinks that'll go down as well as 3D glasses (something else that comes around once a decade or two). And that's before you factor in the nausea induced by the millisecond lag between the user's head moving and the picture adjusting to compensate, which is what sank it for military use in the trenches. Remember the expression "glassholes" .... ?

Nice try, Donuel, but no cookie. You'd only throw it up.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 13 Aug 25 - 09:41 AM

.... but keep 'em coming, Donuel. It does the ol' grey matter good to be given a workout from time to time. Massage for the mind.

Question of the Day: Why do all the Wall Street traders need to applaud every time someone rings a bell? As a separate but related question, why do they feel the need to take selfies every time? It's not as if exactly the same thing won't happen at the same time the next working trading day.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Aug 25 - 12:14 PM

VR movies are probably a Zuckerberg dream. They would be very expensive.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Aug 25 - 12:01 PM

The bell is a symbol of survival and predictability. It is an expensive privilege to be the group to ring the bell. It's a box of chocolates, they don't know if the day will soar or crash at closing.

History of the NYSE bell
Early Days: The initial method for signaling the start and end of trading at the NYSE was a gavel.
Transition to gong: In the late 1800s, the gavel was replaced with a gong.
Iconic brass bell: In 1903, the NYSE moved to its current location and installed an electrically operated brass bell that has become the iconic symbol we know today.
Modern era: While the physical bell is still present, the act of "ringing" the bell is now typically initiated by pressing a large button on the podium.
Even with the rise of electronic trading, the tradition of ringing the NYSE bell persists and holds significant symbolic value for both the financial world and the broader public.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Aug 25 - 12:15 PM

I really enjoy 3D TV. The end of Valdamort is never better.
Also the 3D navigation globe in Aliens 4 is masterful.
I have the 3D versions of Cameron's Avatar movies.

Real POV freedom movies might be good for mysteries.

Filk may not know that I made a cochlear assist device decades ago but it was external and caused synesthesia. I was inspired by a deaf guitarist at RIT.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Aug 25 - 06:35 PM

If you train yourself to speed up your perception, you can see the individual flashes of fluorescent lights. Some baseball players can see a fastball at a slower rate. Seeing individual flashes does not work on LED fluorescent tubes, since I believe there aren't any. I speculate that other dimensions have their own unique temporal rates still within the Planck scale. You may have seen the STNG plots based on different time dimensions. Suppose a dimension has a time signature so unique that it is adjacent to all regions of space without elapsed time. It would be very useful in sci-fi scenarios.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 16 Aug 25 - 02:12 PM

> you can see the individual flashes of fluorescent
> lights

I don't know why, but I can see one particular bar of ceiling lights in the kitchen coming on in two steps, maybe 100ms apart, where nobody else seems to. But then the first time I saw The Sound Of Music in the cinema, I saw the trees judder between frames in the panning aerial shot in the opening sequence. I don't *think* I've trained myself particularly, but I used to be able to spot missing lines in MSDOS boot-up message sequences ("Ah! *that* line's missing, so you're missing *this* driver").

[snip: saga of a work colleague]


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Aug 25 - 09:29 AM

Tis the season of pumpkin spice
like the decay of dumping sites
Followed by an artificial cinnamon
smelling like a dismal carcinogen


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Aug 25 - 08:26 PM

I clearly see a flash of light when I turn on the switch. When I push it the other way I clearly see darkness.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Aug 25 - 12:51 AM

Not yet, Don. Give it a few weeks. Though I have been drinking more hot tea these days, just for a change from iced tea.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Aug 25 - 08:28 AM

Its so unseasonably cool this week. I've seen more pumpkin spice at the grocery and drug store already.

As for my metaphysics hobby, I am firmly in the camp that the UFO technology is manipulating space and time. We manipulate matter and energy much to the aggravation of non-human intelligences.

Whether their mastery of time is great or small, I do not know, although some think the 'aliens' don't want to harm us because they would be subject to the grandfather paradox hazard. That implies a great mastery, but they could simply coexist with our timeline without time travel. Then their time manipulation would be technologically smaller.

Along with time manipulation is the phenomenon that nothing in our dominion can be locked away from them. They would have full access to everything since there would not be a vault that would be impenetrable.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Aug 25 - 05:28 PM

Because something exists that we currently don't understand doesn't mean we will never understand it.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 20 Aug 25 - 01:38 PM

*Agree*, Rap: over time, humans tend to misunderstand things less. Sadly, the rate of progress is far from linear (or even monotonic), nor is the distribution of misunderstanding uniform. But at least most of us have advanced from weather being at the whim of some poor overworked deity to it being at the whim of the Quantum Weather Butterfly.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Aug 25 - 03:16 PM

I don't know doesn't mean something will never be known to mankind.
Every impossible thing witnessed is a clue that there is more we don't know and a pointer to new knowledge yet to be understood.

I have only seen about 6 physics impossibilities that conflict with what we have been taught. Based on new data, there are thousands of 'whys' I can not comprehend, like why is Parkinson's accelerating past Alzheimer's? Why America has stopped the research of mRNA vaccines against cancer, dementia, flu, and other devastating conditions is easy to understand. =Idiots love to own the libs with bibles and guns.=


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Aug 25 - 05:16 PM

Ain't Trump cute
He's enough to make you puke
I tell you very confidentially
Trump's a fluke


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Aug 25 - 05:08 AM

Good morning our Capitol how are ya?
now that troops direct your every move.
All the checkpoints and arrests are fairly heavy.
Many will be gone when the day is done.

School kids and workers try to hide
the fear and worry goes far and wide
the police take over is on the news
and is watched in case relatives disappear.

The fear and loathing makes citizens sad and blue.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Aug 25 - 01:23 PM

He was an old thin skinned man
They said he had a smile.
So I went online and followed him awhile
I don't know what they're thinking
He even cheats at golf and con man deals
He's taxing us making profits when he steals
He's killing me harshly with his wrongs
Killing me harshly, with his wrongs.
Killing me harshly
with his wrongs


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Aug 25 - 01:31 PM

THIS if number 99! A palindromic number!


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Aug 25 - 08:29 AM

100 is binary code for...


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Aug 25 - 02:51 PM

You don’t KNOW?!???


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Aug 25 - 06:57 AM

Like Sgt. Shultz or Ghislaine Maxwell, "I KNOW NOTHING!"


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Aug 25 - 07:23 AM

In my book. Netanyahu now ranks with the moat cruel Nazi genocide Generals.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Aug 25 - 09:20 AM

There is a movie for people who like to think.
It is called 'Frequencies'.
It defines free will, fate, politics, and profound music in such a way that is excedingly simple yet haunting in its implications.
It is available for free on Prime.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Aug 25 - 07:58 AM

Today is National Dog Day. Every dog has its day.
It's the canine version of 15 minutes of fame.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Aug 25 - 05:33 PM

Apparently, enough is never enough.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Aug 25 - 09:06 AM

Well, I had a capilliotomy yesterday. Yes, some of my hair was cut off and thrown away, instead of being saved and revered as relics.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Aug 25 - 11:53 AM

There are well over 5,000 near-miss reports of UFOs from pilots willing to report. There are 100 times as many distant sightings by pilots. Never has there been a collision.


There is a likelihood that UFOs are vulnerable to lighting but not hittingS our aircraft. Since 2017 when the US military admitted that many UFOs are material realities, but there has been no outcry or public outrage. On the other hand there is far more concern regarding Trump tariffs.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Aug 25 - 09:35 AM

THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE EXPERT

Mnay experts have been fired but the real vacuum will come from AL taking over novice jobs at first and more advanced skills as time goew on. Mentors that remain may not be called upon to teach or inspire.
Going down tech roads that are programmed to be bigots or unintuitive will mislead societies and culture. What it is to be human may become a bored, unemployed, overweight observer of life and art. Or life will have panaceas never dreamed of with idealized adventure. Utopia or depression are both possible. But the expert will probably go extinct.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Sep 25 - 08:31 AM

The criminal will endure.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 04 Sep 25 - 12:00 PM

> taking over novice jobs at first

That's the long-term problem with Artificial Incompetence: once one generation of trainees has been replaced, where will the next generation of experts come from? I still treasure my ability to do arithmetic by hand, despite having an electronic calculator, as wetware doesn't need a battery or mains supply.

.... That's assuming there *is* a long term for LLMs. The bubble may have been given the skin of a dirigible, but I can hear the creaking of canvas under strain.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Sep 25 - 12:02 PM

Google doesn't want to offer up any information about "capilliotomy." What are we to know about this procedure?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Sep 25 - 08:43 PM

The surgeon, named Megan (Ol' Doc Megan) grabbed me and threw me into a chair. No anesthesia, she wrapped a bedsheet around me neck and attacked my head with scissors and electric clippers. When it was over, parts of me lay on the floor, the chair, the counter, and all over the surgery chair.

Then she charged me USD30.00 and tossed me out into the street.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Sep 25 - 11:04 AM

Yes, Mom. Sunday, the day after tomorrow, I leave for Seattle to fly to Nome. Yes, I will pick you up a Nome gnome for our home, but not for our Rome home. Your roaming kid is going Noming. Tuesday I'll set sail for Vancouver (the BC one, not the WA one). In the meantime I'll check in whenever I can, as service is spotty when you're living in a kayak on the Bering Sea, the Gulf of Alaska, and the Inside Passage.
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Sep 25 - 10:31 AM

2.5 hours left before airport pickup. I'll have a Seattle drink for Stilly.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Sep 25 - 01:38 PM

This area has old-fashioned vines of simple roses that climb high into the trees without being parasitic. There are also many Mulberry trees from over a century ago when they tried growing silkworms that feed off the Mulberry. The trees survived the winters here but the silk worms did not. We also have orchards of Paw Paw thanks to the former now defunded Agriculture Department.

I have been seeding for poppy fields in back but no luck so far without soil preparation. They should sprout in poor soils from surface seeding.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Sep 25 - 04:47 AM

Rover found fossilized life on Mars


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Sep 25 - 10:49 AM

UFO hit by missle


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 25 - 11:14 AM

Our UFO drive will use negative matter, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gOkamfgIvE


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Sep 25 - 02:43 PM

I have some poppy seeds sent by a Mudcat member in a secret Santa pack many years ago. I grew a few and kept those seeds. They're lovely, but I lost track of them and probably accidentally dug up the area so they didn't come back.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Sep 25 - 02:06 PM

I buy them by the lb. Even the ones meant for baking are viable.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Sep 25 - 08:12 PM

Water, water, everywhere but here no ten foot waves! Where are you, asked? 54°54’ north, 159°45’ west.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Sep 25 - 11:15 AM

There are more than 22 versions of the Big Bang theory.
Besides the improbability of a singularity, the inflation theory afterwards is BS. The James Webb telescope supports my theory of a much older universe, as in my many posts, which are lost in the original MOAB.

You know how time slows down and stops at a massive black hole so imagine all the emerging mass of the universe emanating from a quantum phase change. There would be so much density for so long it would be like a stoppage of time until the expanding radius density of the universe would slowly allow time to exist.

The James Webb shows primordial black holes and ancient galaxies soon after the universe became less opaque. Dark matter could be emergent from the debris of matter-antimatter annihilation or it may be part of the phase collapse of the quantum realm. Even heavy elements are present at these earliest times, which also means the galactic stars are far more ancient. This would allow advanced life to be as old as 20 billion years or more. Compare that to 100,000 years of homo sapiens.

The universe we inhabit is at least twice as old as some thought or even older. It is hard so say how much older.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Sep 25 - 09:21 AM

Einstein did not know anything about dark matter and the dominant role it plays with gravity. It is as though the curvature of space time is a minor form of gravity but there is another form of a much stronger gravity that is dimensionally adjacent to us.

I portend dark matter was emergent after a quantum phase collapse but it could be primordial from the beginning, just like black holes.

A daughter of cosmological genius.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Sep 25 - 08:35 PM

A photon that is released from the surface of a star 20 billion light-years from the Webb telescope hits the surface of the telescope's CCD in the same instant when it departed the star. That is because at the speed of light, time stands still. A neutrino can penetrate mass that would absorb a photon, but time does tick slowly for the neutrino. It has a smidgeon of mass, so it can not travel at light speed.


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Subject: RE: The unofficial biography of Charles Kirk
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 25 - 01:16 PM

Charlie was born on a roller coaster in Iowa during a tornado warning.
From age 2 to the fifth grade, Charlie and his mother lived in a bunker run by a born-again preacher with bizarre survival ideas. Due to depleted topsoil, the bunker was mostly above ground, so he was exposed to vitamin D through the barred windows.

He excelled at homeschooling for white Nationalist children. He was accepted to Baylor University in Waco, Texas, but chose to enroll at Harper College, a community college in Palatine, Illinois, a northwestern suburb of Chicago. He dropped out after one semester. In 2015, Kirk was enrolled part-time at King's College in New York City, where he took a few online religion classes.

He was a natural campaigner for Trump and began a speaking tour career, and co-founded the conservative organization Turning Point USA (TPUSA) in 2012 and was its executive director. He published a range of ghostwritten books and hosted The Charlie Kirk Show, a talk radio program.

One of his favorite arguments for intelligent design was that random properties of atheistic evolution arguements were as likely as a hurricane blowing through a junkyard and assembling a flight-ready 747 jet airplane suitable for a King.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Sep 25 - 03:10 PM

Kirk definitely belongs in the BS thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Sep 25 - 05:51 PM

His actual childhood...
Charles James Kirk was born on October 14, 1993, in the Chicago suburb of Arlington Heights, Illinois, and raised in nearby Prospect Heights. His father Robert W. Kirk is an architect who was involved in the construction of Trump Tower. His mother Kathryn (née Smith) is a former trader at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange who subsequently worked as a mental health counselor. He had one sibling, a younger sister Mary, who went on to become an art curator in Chicago.

Kirk described his parents as moderate Republicans. They were active in conservative circles and his father was a major donor to the Mitt Romney 2012 presidential campaign. Raised in the Presbyterian Church, Kirk was a member of the Boy Scouts of America and earned the rank of Eagle Scout. He experienced a period of political awakening in middle school, during which he read books by economist Milton Friedman and became more attracted to Republican Party principles.

In 2010, during his junior year at Wheeling High School, Kirk volunteered for the successful U.S. Senate campaign of Illinois Republican Mark Kirk (no relation). Also during his junior year, he began listening to The Rush Limbaugh Show, a prominent conservative talk radio broadcast. In his senior year, he initiated a boycott of cookies at the school's cafeteria to reverse a price increase. He also wrote an essay for Breitbart News alleging liberal bias in high-school textbooks; it led to his first media appearance on Fox Business at age 17.

Kirk applied to the United States Military Academy in West Point, New York, but was rejected in 2012. He was accepted to Baylor University in Waco, Texas, but chose to enroll at Harper College, a community college in Palatine, Illinois...


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Sep 25 - 05:51 AM

I know of Abraham Lincoln.
Abraham Lincoln was a hero of mine.
Charlie Kirk was no Abraham Lincoln.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Sep 25 - 03:47 PM

Radar shows that UFOs jump rather than merely accelerate in many cases.
The jump is immune to G forces. If a UFO were traveling at a quarter million miles an hour and stopped, where would that energy go?
Therefore some sort of warp or time manipulation is involved.
At 1,000 G acceleration, it would take 17 hours to get to near light speed. Since time goes super slow at relativistic speeds, distance to the stars would be a reality for mortals.

The immense size of some of these objects can be bigger than an aircraft carrier or the Phoenix craft at half a mile is mind-blowing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG04I_vtQFA


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Sep 25 - 07:05 AM

Fifty years ago I watched a cigar-shaped object cross horizon to horizon in less than two seconds at high altitude. Compared to the triangular UFO I saw, they seemed like different technologies.
Some UFOs produce brilliant light and some don't.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Sep 25 - 07:44 PM

Sniper's song

When this old world starts getting me down
People are just too much for me to face
I'll climb way up to the top of the stairs
And all my cares just drift right into space
On the roof, it's peaceful as can be
And there the world below can't bother me
So when I come home feeling tired and beat
I'll go up where the air is fresh and sweet
I'll get far away from the hustling crowd
And all that rat-race noise down on the street
Oh, on the roof, that's the only place I know
Look at the crazy city
Where you just have to wish to make it so
I'll go up on the roof
At night the stars they put on a show for free
And, damnit, the world can share it with me,
Oh I know that you will see
That right smack dab in the middle of my town
I found a paradise that's target-proof
And if this old world starts a-getting me down
There's room enough to shoot, up on the roof
Up on the roof, oh, up on a roof
Up on the roof, up on a roof, on the roof
If I've ever told you, that tonight I don't mind
They'll seize me this evening
Hey, they'll seize me, eh
I got the stars above me and the city lights below
(Oh, oh, yeah, yeah)
Up on the roof (up on the roof)
Up on the roof (up on the roof)


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Sep 25 - 06:41 PM

Okay, Mom, I’m home. We survived being stove in by two whales, another shipwreck, and the bottom falling out of the ship during the category 6 hurricane-like storm.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 08:15 AM

Was your mission to transport the whales to the future successful?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 08:46 AM

Priceless, Donuel. It took me a few seconds for the penny to drop, but it was worth the wait.

Oh, and for your delight and delectation, I've been keeping this XKCD in cold storage awhile:

Phase changes

.... the mouseover text has the "I saw this and thought of you" nature.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 11:16 AM

There are no such things as “whales” or anything related to this mythical animal. That which are so called are in actuality exiled inhabitants of the land below the crust of the Earth. Originally varying brilliant colors they take on the colors we humans see when they are exuded through subsea volcanoes into our world, the “world above” or “the punishment place.”


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 11:31 AM

... truly the mother of all B. S. ...


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 04:31 PM

You may have a point Rap. It takes life to feel punishing pain on heavenly Earth, but a hellish planet like Venus, which seems not to have any robust life, feels no pain.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Sep 25 - 04:46 PM

Regarding Unusual Flying Orbs, the brilliant light craft are probably generating warp fields while the unilluminating ones are not. The natural color craft are probably using gravimetric control.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Sep 25 - 06:41 PM

Start spreading fake news, you're steaming today
You want to be a part of it, DC, DC
Your kanclebound shoes, they are longing to stray
And schlep around the heart of it, DC, dc
I wanna wake up in that city, that gives the creeps
And find your king of the hill, top of the heap
Your small Queens blues, they're melting away
You'll make a brand-new run of it, in old DC
If you can make it there, you'll make it anywhere
It's up to you, DC, DC

You better believe it, folks
You always make it there, you'll make it anywhere
Come on, come through you
dictator toddler
King of DC,


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 25 - 07:08 AM

The gespacho Gestapo ICE troops are cold, toxic, and disappear people into ghettos of detention camps awaiting deportation to foreign prisons, and countries by planes instead of the old-fashioned trains.

The leg irons and handcuffs are a new addition, as their budget is almost double that of the Marines.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Oct 25 - 07:48 AM

Rap did the radio nerve ablation procedure help?


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Oct 25 - 01:04 PM

It seems to have done so. Not complete, but much better.


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Oct 25 - 10:35 AM

Arise, Oh Daughter of Mom!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Oct 25 - 05:57 PM

Rap for Emperor, the Kindle version, is only 99 cents but it demonstrates human nature in real time.

Maggie's Declutter thread in its entirety is only 1.99 and is titled A Day in the Life on Kindle.

Keb's Kindle deal is 2.99 and is called A View from Inside.

My collected posts on Kindle costs me a dime for every download.


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