 sj |
||
|
||
Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 14 Apr 25 - 07:53 AM Trump has shot himself in the foot, but Congress has gelded itself. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 14 Apr 25 - 11:54 AM I'll see you those golfing trips, Aethelric, and raise you: Pentagon celebrates snipping 0.58% from defense budget in IT, DEI cuts $5.1B cancellations pitched as efficiency move, though costly Trump birthday parade mulled
.... see article in full, please. There's a surpisingly positive sting in the tail. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 14 Apr 25 - 12:56 PM It occurred to me that as the confidence and value of the US dollar fall, Trump's and others' cryptocurrency is expected to rise in a typical hedge maneuver. This is the ultimate James Bond villain plot that goes far beyond Goldfinger. While I could be wrong, there does not seem to be mere coincidence involved here. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 14 Apr 25 - 01:05 PM H F S |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Helen Date: 14 Apr 25 - 04:19 PM This Newsweek article examines recent popularity polls and discusses some related issues. The three paragraphs I quoted from the middle of the article indicate that buyers' remorse for some Republicans might be increasing. This could be a hopeful change of opinion from his previous supporters, IMHO. Donald Trump's Approval Rating Falls to New Low With Republican Pollster "President Donald Trump's approval rating has hit a new low, according to a recent poll conducted by a Republican-leaning firm. Why It Matters "Trump's approval rating is a key indicator of his political strength as he navigates his second presidential term and prepares for future policy battles. "A shift in his numbers could influence support from Republican lawmakers, affect his ability to push through his agenda and shape the political landscape heading into the midterm election cycle in 2026." ... "'A large majority of voters acknowledge the tariffs are delivering a bruising body blow to the economy in the near term. Will time reduce the pain? Some think it will, but a majority don't envision that happening,"' Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said. "Thomas Gift, an associate professor of political science and the director of the Centre on U.S. Politics at University College London, said Trump's handling of the tariff situation had alienated many voters. "'Trump hasn't earned himself many supporters with his handling of the tariff situation. It's not only the policy that seems to irk voters but also the apparent lack of strategy, the impulsive decision-making, and the inconsistent messaging from the White House. Trump has long built his brand on being a master dealmaker and a savvy businessman. However, the last several days have dealt a serious huge blow to that image,' he said." ... |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 14 Apr 25 - 05:43 PM Trump still has 90% primary influence among Republicans. He would need to poll 38 or below to suffer any mutinies. He is at 48 at its lowest. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 14 Apr 25 - 06:21 PM United States citizens could be taken off the streets onto planes for deportation. History is no stranger to such lawless regimes. sounds like me but this is a quote from Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Helen Date: 14 Apr 25 - 06:22 PM Yes but can you foresee his favourability rating getting higher or lower in the near future? What does H F S mean? |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 14 Apr 25 - 06:46 PM Holy F-ing Shit "If you ignore the current lawless regime, you do so at your own peril" quote Bernie Sanders on stage at Coachella last night. 48% is Trump's popularity poll but it is beginning to go underwater by some indications. Trump said today, alongside the President of El Salvador, that there are certain homegrown people in the US he wants to deport to El Salvador prisons once more are built. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Helen Date: 14 Apr 25 - 07:26 PM using this photo of him Trump is angry at NBC News for using this photo of him, so please don't use this enhanced, enlarged version of it for anything |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 15 Apr 25 - 05:02 AM Trump’s gut tells him he’s got China on the ropes. He couldn’t be more wrong That Donald Trump, he’s a crafty fellow. His madcap series of tariffs followed by escalations and then exemptions and then more tariffs may have looked like “peak stupid”, as one British commentator called it. But his secret intention all along was to isolate China, apparently. Other countries ended up with lower tariff penalties while China alone is slammed with a prohibitive 145 per cent tariff on all exports to the US ... ... According to Xi, it’s the US that has isolated itself by putting a tariff wall around the American economy, alienating every US ally and friend in the process. This week, Xi is embarking on a charm offensive of South-East Asia to emphasise the contrast between China’s stability and America’s destructive erraticism. Who’s right? First, remember what Deng Xiaoping said. The father of modern China’s economic success observed that: “The Middle East has oil. China has rare earths.” ... ... Despite their name, rare earths aren’t rare at all. But concentrated, high-grade deposits are hard to find. The US isn’t well-endowed. It has only about 1 per cent of known economic reserves. ... ... So Xi’s new export ban is a potential boot on the throat of US manufacturing, medicine and military capability. Beijing is working out a detailed export licensing system so that it can resume exports with tight control over who gets what and when. Does Donald Trump understand America’s vulnerability? Yes, that’s why he’s put a very public priority on shaking down Ukraine and Greenland for their rare earths deposits. But he might not realise that it would take as long as 10 years for any of them to be developed into functioning mines. And his grasp of the detail might not be strong – in one extended set of remarks he repeatedly called them “raw earths” ... ...“The Trump administration may think it’s acting tough, but it’s, in fact, putting the US economy at the mercy of Chinese escalation. The US will face shortages of critical inputs ranging from basic ingredients of most pharmaceuticals to inexpensive semiconductors used in cars and home appliances to critical minerals for industrial processes including weapons production.” ... ... As world trade rearranges itself around America’s self-imposed tariff wall, it will be the US, not China, that finds itself isolated. Trump said last week that he was making tariff decisions “instinctively”. Information? Expertise? That’s for wimps. Trump explained in his first term the source of his unique insight: “My gut tells me more sometimes than anybody else’s brain can ever tell me.” Peter Hartcher is political editor and international editor of The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 15 Apr 25 - 06:00 AM Just because he uses a gold toilet does not mean his gut has golden ideas. His global economic wisdom is in fact WORSE than the worst case scenario. His delusions of having his 'ass kissed',as he puts it, by countries begging for his mercy are unfounded when it comes to meaningful trade. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 15 Apr 25 - 04:55 PM This economic tidal wave will not arrive until midsummer. Until then, I hope that invertebrate Congressmen are raptured, must attend to their family, or run for cover before the S storm. A 3rd impeachment may be the charm. Stephen Miller deserves more harm. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Apr 25 - 03:09 AM Taken from Facebook so apologies for the long C&P The following is a reposting off a post from Peter Birkenhead and it made me cry, because he made me realize it’s all true. It’s long and if you don’t wanna cry too, you probably shouldn’t read it. __________ We’ve been reading stories like this for over a decade. Each one meant to signify an inflection point, a turning of the tide. Yet the tide never turns. As of today, Donald Trump’s supposedly “tanking” approval rating stands at 47%. Which is pretty much where it’s been for the past eleven years. Yes, there have been minor upticks and downturns of a few points here and there. Yes, a majority of Americans disapprove of the tariffs. Yes, a majority think the economy is heading in the wrong direction. And yes, a majority disapprove of the job Trump is doing. That’s not new. Trump’s popularity has almost never been above 50%, except for very brief periods of time. He’s never needed it to be. His power derives not from the size but the durability of his popular support, and there’s rarely been an approval rating as stubbornly durable as his. Especially given the hundreds — thousands — of incidents over the past decade that would have sunk the careers of, say, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, or Hillary Clinton. Think of it. All the corruption, the scandal, the pain and death and misery. All the insults to human decency and injuries to democratic ideals. And his numbers are still pretty much where they were when it all started. I am uninterested in whatever minor fluctuation will follow yesterday’s vile display in the Oval Office, or tomorrow’s outrage, or next week’s. They will mean nothing. What Trump supporters (as a whole, as a voting bloc, PLEASE don’t tell me about your MAGA cousin who’s having second thoughts) are thinking means nothing. The only thing that matters is what Trump’s opponents are thinking. What we’re thinking. I remember making posts like this during Trump’s first term, and wondering exactly what I’m wondering right now. Which is very much not, “What will it take for his supporters to turn away from him,” but rather, “What will it take for his opponents to realize his supporters won’t turn away from him?” Because the answer to that question is crucial. It will shape everything that happens over the next few weeks and months. If, as I suspect, a sizable number of us are sitting at home today thinking that Trump’s open defiance of a Supreme Court ruling, refusal to return an innocent, legal resident of the US from a gulag in El Salvador, and declaration that he wants to send American citizens to the same prison without due process, will somehow harm his approval rating, that does not bode well for our side. Nothing will harm his approval rating. Sure it might — might — go down a few points in the next few days. It won’t mean a thing. Give it a few weeks. To believe otherwise is to not understand the story of the Trump era. The story of the Trump era isn’t “A bad man came along and duped a bunch of well-meaning, gullible people.” Donald Trump didn’t conjure his supporters from the ether with his magic MAGA wand. His supporters conjured him. They wanted him. Badly. They’d been looking, searching, begging, screaming for someone like him, pushing every Republican candidate further and further to the right with every election cycle, demanding loudly that they “take a tougher” line on this, and “not give an inch” on that, that they “tell it like it is,” and “say what everyone is thinking,” for years. For decades. They weren’t duped. They are never going to see the light. (Of course a few will, here and there. But not in meaningful numbers.) There will be no scales falling from eyes, no epiphanies, no death bed conversions. Not among the bedrock base, which has not budged an inch in ten years. They waved signs that said, MASS DEPORTATIONS NOW at their third Trump convention. They weren’t duped. The only duping that’s gone on is the self-duping many of us have been guilty of for many years. It’s a very human, very understandable, thing to do. To think better of your fellow human beings than perhaps they do themselves. To believe that, with enough patience, empathy, education and reason they are bound to see the error of their ways. That belief is a dangerous one in this moment. It manifests in political choices that are bound to not only fail, but help the bad guys continue doing bad things. It doesn’t matter if a few thousand Trump supporters see the error of their ways. It doesn’t matter if this or that Republican politician is momentarily seized by courage or conscience and speaks up about his or her disappointment in the president. The overwhelming majority of Trump supporters will remain Trump supporters NO MATTER WHAT. Did you ever think you’d see Republican voters support a candidate who was openly subservient to Russia? Did you ever think you’d see them support a flagrant, serial adulterer and drug user? A denigrator of the military? A draft dodger? A New Yorker? In 2014 Republicans raged at President Obama for supposedly not working hard enough to stop the Ebola epidemic. Six years later they followed Trump’s lead and physically threatened people working to stop an epidemic. Nothing will shake them. Well, almost nothing. There is one thing, one thing Donald Trump could do to lose significant support. And no, it is not making his supporters “feel the pain.” It is not making them poor. These are people who are openly welcoming an imminent recession. No, the one and only thing Donald Trump could do to tank his approval rating would be to stand in front of a camera and say, “Black and Latino people are as fully human as any white man or woman. They are possessed of the same inalienable rights, and deserving of the full enjoyment of those rights and the opportunities they promise, opportunities they have for too long been denied.” Now THAT would be a deal breaker. Because that’s the deal. They give him everything, he gives them fewer Black actors on their TV’s, fewer Black managers at their offices, fewer Latino pilots on their planes, fewer Spanish names on the backs of their team’s uniforms. He breaks THAT deal, and all bets are off. So we need to get it straight. We cannot see this struggle as a debate, as a project of persuasion. If some MAGA supporters are persuaded along the way, great! I say welcome them with open arms. And never, ever stop fighting hard to make their lives better. All of their lives. But progress is going to come when we, not they, see the light. Before the left can meaningfully slow the MAGA rampage it needs to come to terms with the fact that the enemy isn’t merely Trump, but the people who put him in the White House. That is a very hard thing for a lot of us on the left to accept about our countrymen. But this struggle is more analogous to a civil war than it is to a heightened disagreement between political parties. We won’t win it by persuading the enemy, but by overwhelming him. Our energies should be channeled towards each other. Galvanizing, motivating, and enabling each other. Creating and sustaining solidarity. We can get a hundred first-time protestors out in the streets, or first-time voters to the polls, for the same investment it takes to turn one MAGA supporter toward the light. Our hope doesn’t lie in Trump’s poll numbers going down. It lies in our commitment to keeping students from being disappeared and government workers from being fired and cancer research labs from being defunded and democracy from being destroyed. Our hope doesn’t lie with them, it lies with us. __________ PS. It should be pretty obvious that I did not take this photograph. This is my black and white version of the portrait Sarah A. Boardman painted for the Colorado State Capitol. She did an amazing job of making him look better than he is, but I guess that’s what a portrait artist is supposed to do. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Apr 25 - 03:58 AM Just to make it clear, only the first line of the above post is mine |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 16 Apr 25 - 07:19 AM Woo Hoo Harvard and farmers in Iowa are both resisting Trump's Nazi decrees. Meanwhile, Trump's instructions for dealing with 9-to-0 Supreme Court rulings against him are the same as for shampoo, lather, rinse and repeat. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 16 Apr 25 - 07:51 AM Trump has already lost his trade war against China Beijing is hardly likely to roll over given its financial and global trading strength ... So who suffers most political stress from a total and violent economic decoupling? Xi’s tightly controlled China; or Trump’s febrile, restless America, where 100m consumers live on maxed-out credit cards and zero savings, acutely vulnerable to a price spike in day-to-day goods, with no safety margin if they lose their jobs? Scott Bessent, the US treasury secretary, says China is “playing with a pair of twos”, which is one way to describe its stranglehold over critical minerals and much of the resource base of the 21st century hi-tech economy. “The US civilian economy is totally disorganised and has no coherent plan if China cuts off rare earth supply,” said Jack Lifton, chairman of the Critical Minerals Institute. China has already restricted exports of gallium, germanium, antimony and graphite over the last two years, and has now widened the list. This stranglehold is no accident of the free market or geography. China has pursued a strategic policy to knock out rivals via predatory dumping and compelled its own smelting companies to overbuild refining capacity. As is by now well known, it has gained 90pc control over the rare earth supply chain needed for robots, semiconductors, aviation, magnets, radar, electric vehicles, 5G & 6G wireless, power electronics, you name it ... |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 16 Apr 25 - 10:38 AM That's right, Sandra, but the restriction on Hollywood films has now been added to the trade war. Missing another Transformers movie is a win-win for them. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 16 Apr 25 - 11:42 AM Fresh news on the Beeb (one hour old, as I speak): Harvard just stood up to Trump. How long can it last? .... plus two or more previous articles about Tr*mp freezing $2billion funding and threatening its tax-exempt status. Now I've got Neil Young's "Ohio" on an infinite loop in my head :-( . (Hm: is Crosby/Still/Nash/Young's entire back catalogue on the verboten list in Project 2025?) "And so it begins," says Ambassador Kosh. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Apr 25 - 11:42 AM I realise that my earlier post was a long read so, to summarise, you will not win the war by converting trump supporters. They have created him in their own image and other than him becoming "liberal" they will support him whatever he does. The best option is to mobilise everyone else to do something about it. Makes sense to me! |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Apr 25 - 11:57 AM Dave, Trump supporters will have to come around, because Social Security is very catholic in its recipients - and in many of the red states there are more GOP voters than Democratic who get Medicaid also. If they want to get the benefits they paid into they're going to have to get their representatives to take back many of the jobs they've willingly handed to Trump. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 16 Apr 25 - 11:59 AM You're right about the trade war, Sandra. China has always played a very long game, traditionally getting in their retaliation not only first, but first by a generation or two; and the Klutz of the Golden Throne walked straight into their bear trap. His controller is doubtless in stitches .... for the moment. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 16 Apr 25 - 02:12 PM I don't think they will realise, Stilly. The great god trump will tell them it is the fault of the Mexicans/Chinese/Democrats etc and they will believe him. You can't cure stupid :-( |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Apr 25 - 02:16 PM Their news sources (OAN, FAUX, etc.) probably aren't telling them about this right now. But one of these days they'll hear about a friend or family (or see themselves) the checks are not hitting the bank and then there will be a response. I'm headed to a march on Saturday. Looks like rain (but the weather forecasting isn't as accurate now the Musk defunded NOAA). |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Helen Date: 16 Apr 25 - 02:34 PM China is not taking the tariff war lying down but it appears there will be no real winners: China halts orders of US-made Boeing planes in retaliation to Trump's tariffs "In short: China has reportedly told its biggest airlines to pause deliveries of American-made Boeing jets. "China's three biggest airlines were expected to buy more than 170 Boeing jets over the next three years in deals worth billions of dollars. "What's next? An international aviation consultant says it may be 'a good thing' for the rest of the aviation world amid high demand for aircraft." ... "International aviation consultant Neil Hansford said China would be the biggest loser from this latest trade spat. "'In the end China is cutting off its nose to spite its face because [the country] has a shortage of aircraft after COVID,' he said." |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 16 Apr 25 - 04:59 PM A new meme describes Trump as mixing economic tequila and Qualudes. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 16 Apr 25 - 05:09 PM Next, this: Pentagon needs China's rare earths, Beijing just put them behind a permit wall. Oops Trump’s tremendous trade tussle triggers troubling twist, theoretically Well, well, well. If it isn't the consequences of thine actions. The Trump administration's global trade war is threatening to hit US military readiness. Read the original for more details, and ElReg's traditional stings in the tail. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 16 Apr 25 - 06:28 PM Thats OK, the market has turned away from US weapons and is just going with other manufacturers who are still superior to Russian weapons. The layoffs and recession will hit progressives and magamites alike. Welcome back, dioxin, hexachromium, and a rainbow of highly toxic and fatal pollution that Musk/Trump deregulation is inviting back to neighborhoods near you. It's billionaires who want deregulation for more profits and can live wherever there is no cancerous land and water. The air is another matter. Even with regulations, the cheating and surreptitious polluting were horrific, be it chemical or radioactive waste. Still, regulations saved some lives. Its open season on we the people. There are some regulations that border on the ridiculous but the important ones are also going away by Billionaire orders. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: gillymor Date: 16 Apr 25 - 07:20 PM Of the Billionaires, by the Billionaires and for the Billionaires. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Richard Atkins Date: 16 Apr 25 - 09:07 PM The sooner the impeachment process begins on the Trump dictator who passes his "Executive orders" above congress debate the better. A shame I have lost respect for America now |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Apr 25 - 10:10 PM I am not finding a "gift article" link to the article I'm going to share to here - it is from the May issue so they may not be ready for it to be widely shared by subscribers. In The Atlantic is the piece "America is Watching the Rise of a Dual State" by Aziz Huq. Mr. Huq was interviewed today on a North Texas National Public Radio station (one that Trump is wanting to defund) noon interview program called Think; today's subject is Dictators sometimes take power quietly. Krys Boyd spent an hour talking to Huq about the article he wrote, and about the Fraenkel book he describes. You get a lot more information about the situation in the hour interview than you might get in the article. From Think: Authoritarian regimes sometimes take power all at once – but other times they chip away at societal norms bit by bit. Aziz Huq teaches law at the University of Chicago, and he joins host Krys Boyd to discuss specifically how the Nazis rose to power and began to persecute Jews in part because the rest of German society just went about its business without objection. His article published in The Atlantic is “America Is Watching the Rise of a Dual State.” There is a link at the top of that page to listen to the interview. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 17 Apr 25 - 08:51 AM Meanwhile, back on the insecurity front: EU gives staff 'burner phones, laptops' for US visits That would put America on the same level as China for espionage
What I'd like to know is, given the tight integration between the UK and US spying institutions, whether the UK is also on the naughty list. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 17 Apr 25 - 10:48 AM .... *Agree*, BwM and DtG: the whole mess is a civil war waiting to boil over. It's been said that we've only had one world war with a 20-year intermission; methinks the current troubles in the US have been pending since at least 1865 (2020 was merely a trial run). I really, really hope England doesn't back the wrong side again, but .... :-( |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Apr 25 - 11:56 AM I removed that very long copy/paste bit attributed to Liz Cheney. She didn't write it. Do some fact checking before sharing those, please. If you want to read more about it, here is the fact check page. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Backwoodsman Date: 17 Apr 25 - 12:09 PM OK, not written by Cheney, but it raised a lot of very valid points about the uselessness of the seemingly paralysed Congress, and I believe it was worth leaving up on here for that reason. Itchy trigger-finger syndrome, Maggie? |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Helen Date: 17 Apr 25 - 03:50 PM It's always worth checking Snopes for fact checks: Liz Cheney didn't write letter urging Democratic Party to fight Trump's 'authoritarian machine' There is so much misinformation on the 'net. We can't get it right every time but SRS's trigger finger is essential to keep Mudcat on track. Thanks heaps SRS! |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 17 Apr 25 - 04:23 PM Surprise: Signalgate chats vanish from CIA chief phone Extraordinary rendition of data, or just dropped it out of a helicopter?
Seems they left it too late, and the messages evaporated like, urm, let's say, like so much scotch mist. It's almost as if they think they've got something to hide, despite having published the book, but perhaps that's what makes them smart. First entry in the Comments section:
|
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Apr 25 - 05:02 PM The link I posted goes to a site that contains the same text, it just isn't a long tome in our thread now. There was nothing wrong with the points, but what bothers me is when people take perfectly good ideas and add a famous name to give it legs. That to me defeats the purpose of the post. I purposely do a lot more research now that Facebook doesn't do fact checking (not that they did a very good job of it before, and there are still conservative special interests out there flagging posts they don't like) and I'd already read this misattribution once today. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Apr 25 - 05:14 PM Trump has given attorney general Barbie Doll the names of two people he wants investigated, from his first administration. Not people who he thinks committed crimes; they simply didn't support his stolen election story in 2020 and now he wants the Justice Department to find something on them. And in the Homegoods section of the administration, the My Pillow Guy has asked if Trump's IRS will stop an audit of his company. A Treasury Dept. official wrote to the IRS about "a high-profile friend of the President recently received an audit letter" and in the New York Times they spell out that "the message alarmed [IRS] agency staff that President Trump hoped to use the tax collector to protect his friends and allies from normal scrutiny. . ." You think? |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Helen Date: 17 Apr 25 - 08:00 PM Liz Cheney is a hero in my estimation because she stands up for what she believes in, so her name should not be taken in vain IMHO. Also IMHO Farcebook "facts" should be taken with a grain of salt. Fact checking social media posts should be second nature. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Apr 25 - 10:44 PM Trump is now trying to bash universities that won't take out DEI programs or courses. Take away their grants and federal funding (all of this is illegal impoundment of funds already granted by past administrations and funded by congress.) He's trying to shut out law firms that worked for people who he doesn't like, or who worked against him (and the foolish ones buckle - but this is one of the easiest cases for law firms to win against Trump). Many amendments of the Constitution have been trampled by these executive orders. He's acting like a goddammed king, and too many people are letting him get away with it (we hear about corporate CEOs paying $1 million for meals at Maralago to meet with Trump to keep doing business or lift tariff effects). Congress is letting him get away with it, even though they are the ones constitutionally assigned the task of negotiating and setting tariffs. It seems that the only thing that gives Trump pleasure and a feeling of power is making people miserable. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 18 Apr 25 - 03:17 AM Not just Trump - his supporters too! Another view from Facebook. This one by "Feminist News" The question was posed, "Why do people continue supporting Trump no matter what he does?" A lady named Bev answered it this way: “You all don't get it. I live in Trump country, in the Ozarks in southern Missouri, one of the last places where the KKK still has a relatively strong established presence. They don't give a shit what he does. He's just something to rally around and hate liberals, that's it, period. He absolutely realizes that and plays it up. They love it. He knows they love it. The fact that people act like it's anything other than that proves to them that liberals are idiots, all the more reason for high fives all around. If you keep getting caught up in "why do they not realize this problem" and "how can they still back Trump after this scandal," then you do not understand what the underlying motivating factor of his support is. It's fuck liberals, that's pretty much it. Have you noticed he can do pretty much anything imaginable, and they'll explain some way that rationalizes it that makes zero logical sense? Because they're not even keeping track of any coherent narrative, it's irrelevant. Fuck liberals is the only relevant thing. Trust me; I know firsthand what I'm talking about. That's why they just laugh at it all because you all don't even realize they truly don't give a fuck about whatever the conversation is about. It's just a side mission story that doesn't matter anyway. That's all just trivial details - the economy, health care, whatever. Fuck liberals. Look at the issue with not wearing the masks. I can tell you what that's about. It's about exposing fear. They're playing chicken with nature, and whoever flinches just moved down their internal pecking order, one step closer to being a liberal. You've got to understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness because that's what they believe strength is, hatred of weakness. And I mean passionate, sadistic hatred. And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me. Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness. Sometimes they will lump vulnerability in with weakness. They do that because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in some compromising or overwhelming circumstance, and to them, that's an obvious sign of weakness. Kindness = weakness. Honesty = weakness. Compromise = weakness. They consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do. They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority. Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them. Just keep in mind what I said here and be forewarned.” |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Backwoodsman Date: 18 Apr 25 - 03:38 AM Helen , I’m normally very careful about fact checking, I slipped up this time - Mea Culpa, and ten ’Hail Mary’s’. I’m always happy to admit my errors. If only others were so honest! |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Helen Date: 18 Apr 25 - 04:35 AM Thanks BWM. :-) |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 18 Apr 25 - 05:13 AM Trump acting like a king ? |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 18 Apr 25 - 05:51 AM I showed that to Herself, Sandra: Much laughter, and a wry "If only ...." The difference between GoldenThrone and Charlie Boy is that the latter knows it, while the former* is reenacting the last days of his own father. Meanwhile, California sues President Tariff (as if the courts weren't his campaigning theatre of choice), and .... Whistleblower describes DOGE IT dept rampage at America's labor watchdog Ignored infosec rules, exfiltrated data … then the mysterious login attempts from a Russian IP address began – claim
* The former .... if only .... |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 18 Apr 25 - 10:16 AM Meanwhile, back at the pretender: Europe's cloud customers eyeing exit from US hyperscalers 'It's amazing how fast the change has been'
.... not that the oik-in-chief would care, as long as he's got piles of top-secret bog paper next to his golden throne, and there's a continuous supply of sharpies.* * I've only this last couple of weeks seen "sharpies": a display box of felt-tip pens in WH Smith's window. First thought: There's only twenty there. That wouldn't last the little offender five minutes. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Aethelric Date: 18 Apr 25 - 10:20 AM Italy has found the secret to dealing with the orange muppet - send an attractive female. Maybe Zelensky should have sent his wife. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Apr 25 - 10:58 AM Michigan sent their governor a couple of weeks ago and they ambushed her. She was at the White House on business and some of his aids hurried her into the Oval Office - she assumed it was a one-on-one visit but instead he was ready with his obnoxious Sharpie and signed a couple of more Executive Orders, to do with topical stuff (to him). She was humiliated and at one point hid her face behind a binder she was holding. Was this to make her less good in Democratic eyes (that was a side effect) or to use her presence in the room as a marketing ploy when talking to MAGA - "see, even Democratic governors are here for this stuff." Don't send women thinking they'll be more effective, to Trump his only tool is a hammer and everyone who arrives looks like a nail. |
|
Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 18 Apr 25 - 11:25 AM Chris Krebs has the right approach: after he, and the company he's joined since being fired, get targeted for him having said that the 2020 election was "the most secure in American history" .... Krebs throws himself on the grenade, resigns from SentinelOne after Trump revokes clearances
Neat punchline, but it may be a career-limiting move. Once it's explained to him, the Pretender will be doubly pissed off. |
| Share Thread: |
