Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 05:06 AM

The world may need a collective deep breath.
The Donald says he does not need International Law; he only needs his own morality.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 07:32 AM

US is in state of Civil War ~ a rogue President who does not think the law applies to him and others that do

Taking too much on is bound to end in others taking advantage

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 11:36 AM

He went on to say, "I'm not out to hurt people.
Tell that to the boaters and the 80 who died in the kidnapping mission. Tell that to the million fired or, business wrecked by tariffs or, institutions milked by extortion or, those wrecked by lawsuits.

The collection of billionaires at his inauguration has not all profited as promised.

The fascist 2025 project expects to rule ad infinitum.
Mr. anti-charisma JD Vance is expected to lead their charge.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 11:48 AM

A lack of intelligence isn't an indicator of inability to get elected. (To serve effectively in office is an entirely different question: See Ronald Reagan, both Bushes, and Dan Quayle, topped off with Trump twice.) Being smart and efficient seems to be a liability when it's the delivery of one-liners that gets people elected. (I'm reading Andy Borowitz's Profiles in Ignorance: How America's Politicians Got Dumb and Dumber - when writing history instead of satire he still pulls no punches.)

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 12:01 PM

Politicians who are dumb are favored by the ruling banking families and the good ol boys oligarchic families. It is an aberration if they are populist and smart like Lincoln, Obama, or Mamdani.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 03:23 PM

I'd add Nixon to the list of smart presidents, Donuel; he was at least smart enough to know when the game was up. In retirement, I understand, he was valued enough to be consulted by his successors, who viewed him as a resource on foreign-policy matters.

Thanks for that author and title, Stilly. Sadly, when I tried to follow that link, my browser took one look and said "*bletch*", and that were that; I remember reading something similar in the last couple of weeks, but it had *gawn* before I could quote it here. Did the sequence end with "dumb and celebrated", perchance?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 04:49 PM

Himmler was in charge of the SS. Steven Miller is ACTUALLY in charge of our Gestapo, known as ICE. With his new reading glasses, he even looks like a spitting image of Himmler.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 06:08 PM

There is a war on Americans by this authoritarian regime.
It is the beginning of the lethality that fascists feel pride and power in their stranglehold of authority. They want us to be normalized to the murder yet frightened to protest.

There are current debates that claim protestors are domestic terrorists. You know how Bush treated terrorists. Those concentration camps were outside the US border. Now they are in many States.
What will the youngest kids learn and react to the lawless lies and evil committed by the President?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 06:41 PM

MaJoC, does this help? Amazon link to the book.

Ironic that Trump is threatening an invasion of Iran if they don't stop harming their protestors. Pot calls Kettle black.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Jan 26 - 11:13 PM

Bad day for the KING. Federal courts have ruled against him about 6 times, rejecting nearly a quarter of a trillion in cuts for the poor in blue states. Demonstrations against his Gestapo are coast to coast
Even the elites and oligarchs are against his criminal investigation of the Fed chair.

On the plus side, he is still the self-proclaimed ruler of a Latin American country.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Helen
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 04:50 AM

The lawsuit actions or reactions are not just in the US:

BBC seeks to have Donald Trump's $15b defamation lawsuit dismissed

"In short: The BBC is seeking to have Donald Trump's defamation lawsuit against the broadcaster — filed in the United States — dismissed.

"Mr Trump's lawsuit alleges the BBC violated a Florida law over its editing of a speech he gave in 2021 before the storming of the US Capitol.

"The BBC's dismissal motion in court says the US president could not plausibly allege that the documentary edit was published with 'actual malice'."

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Aethelric
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 05:37 AM

I see Greenland is changing it's name to Epsteinland.
Then Trump will stop talking about it.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 06:21 AM

an excellent move!

2 extracts from Helen's article - ... In a filing late on Monday, local time, the broadcaster argued that the court in Florida lacked personal jurisdiction in the case because it did not broadcast the programme in Florida, and that the president could not prove damages because he was re-elected after it aired ...

... "As Plaintiff failed to plead actual damages, claiming only vague 'harm to his professional and occupational interests,' his claim fails," the BBC filing stated. ...

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 06:46 AM

Bernie Sanders’ comment on Trump suing Jerome Powell.

Has there ever been a POTUS so litigacious as the Fat, Ugly, Orange Baboon? He seems to sue anyone and everyone who disagrees with him. How many of these actions ever actually make it to court, and how many does the FUOB win?

More importantly, where does the money come from to pay for all this litigation?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 09:28 AM

Trump is a caged animal that obeys no laws.

The Epstein files are still not released despite the law that demanded release weeks ago. Trump is even more dangerous as a lame duck idiot wild animal.

Peanut's Lucy provided inexpensive psychiatric advice.
I believe she would find that Donald has a great many repressed memories of abuse from his KKK father. His older brother did not repress many of the same abuses and sought alcohol to help repress them.

For Donald those repressed memories of the abuse and other people's reaction to the hate he was taught created a reservoir of a need of retribution. His life's foundation is built upon sand that makes this late regressive time of his life collapse into an abyss of hate and revenge.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 09:44 AM

I thought this video of The Greenland defense front was well done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS0wFiWpU4U need to copy and paste the link though

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 09:50 AM

Trump loses 2/3 of his lawsuits. He learned to be litigious in NYC.

The independent Department of Justice is no longer independent.
He has fired the best, and the most ethical have quit on their own.
Now it is run by Pam Bondi, who only knows how to belittle, attempt to intimidate, and follow Trump's orders of lawfare.
The US Treasury supports the administration through taxation.

I assume your questions were actual and not rhetorical.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 10:04 AM

Greenlanders are a bunch of terrorist fishermen as overheard by Hegseth at the bar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS0wFiWpU4U

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 11:36 AM

”I assume your questions were actual and not rhetorical.”

It would help conversation here to move smoothly if you made it clear whom you are addressing. If you’re replying to me, then yes, my questions are actual, not rhetorical.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 11:50 AM

The FUOB and his henchmen support and protect ICE agents who murder protesters in the US whilst, at the same time, he encourages protest in Iran and threatens military action if the Iran regime suppresses protest.

He doesn’t get ‘irony’, does he?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Helen
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 01:00 PM

And the other irony of his quest for the Peace Prize while killing people and starting wars. And all his other actions in his whole life including ensuring poverty and suffering for ordinary (i.e. not rich) people in the rest of the world and his own home country, abusing and denigrating women, encouraging suffering and death in relation to health e.g. his actions during COVID, his encouragement and protection of RFK Jr and his whacko claims, and his me-me-me attitude to everything.


Regarding the BBC seeking to have Donald Trump's $15b defamation lawsuit dismissed, thanks Sandra for posting those two extra bits from the article. I was going to do that but you beat me to it.

I still have a giggle that if he tries to claim financial damage he would have to produce his financial records to prove it. He has managed to be elected twice and wriggle out of showing his true financial colours to this point so the chances of him doing that now for relatively minor legal case are Buckleys and none*.

* Aussie saying: One chance in a million or no chance at all.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 03:12 PM

The objective of oligarchic war is to make war continuous.
It stimulates production and justifies poverty for the masses.
Trump craves any retaliation for his actions to unleash a war that finds popular support. He'll say, "See, we were attacked."

The desire for a peace prize is just a ruse. He may as well desire Olympic medals for figure skating.

If the threat of sending citizens to Room 101 isn't enough, a war will exceed the worst threats.

Even the most uninformed know war is a racket.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jan 26 - 05:21 PM

The living witnesses of the rise of the 3rd Reich all explain the incremental method of suppression. Each time a new incident, rule or oppression happened, they said it was just one more thing, it'll blow over. After one crazy thing after another, after each outrageous lie, there came a time when the deportation was not only secretive but deadly.

It was naive to think fellow citizens would be part of the high crimes. These were, after all, just ordinary neighbors and friends.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 06:54 AM

For a year, I have used the word Gestapo for ICE. Now ARCH CONSERVATIVE Joe Rogan is equating ICE with the Gestapo.
I am prescient enough to be ahead of events much of the time with good reason.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 07:10 AM

I hope that Trump doesn't have a brainstorm and sends his ICE troops to Greebland to deport all 30,000 residents to Venezuela.

He actually has subpoenaed Hillary and Bill Clinton to testify in an Epstein investigation.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 08:57 AM

From the official FB Page of Janis Ian, a transcript of the letter from Bill and Hillary Clinton to James Comer, responding to his attempt to subpœna them over the Epstein Files. Some very good points made in there…

”WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

January 13, 2026

Chairman Comer,

We want to take a moment, given everything, to address you directly.

This past year has seen our Government engage in unprecedented acts, including against our own citizens. People have been seized by masked federal agents from their homes, their workplaces, and the streets of their communities. Students and scientists with visas permitting them to study and work here have been deported without due process. The people who laid siege to the U.S. Capitol have been pardoned and called heroes. Agencies vital to the country's national security have been dismantled. Universities, media companies, and law firms have been subjected to threats to their funding, access, and licensing unless they made concessions and surrendered their right to constitutionally protected free speech. American troops have been deployed on the streets of our towns and cities. The Justice Department has been used as a weapon, at the direction of the President, to pursue political opponents. And most recently and searingly, an ICE agent killed an unarmed mother only days ago.

Every person has to decide when they have seen or had enough and are ready to fight for this country, its principles and its people, no matter the consequences.

For us, now is that time.

We are lucky by virtue of the positions we held, and the protections afforded by them. But we are not blind. Every day we see the country we have dedicated our lives to improving take step after step after step backwards.

As chairman of this powerful congressional committee, you have immense power to target anyone and subject them to closed door interrogation and more. The decisions you have made, and the priorities you have set as chairman regarding the Epstein investigation, have prevented progress in discovering the facts about the government's role.

The facts speak for themselves: You subpoenaed eight people in addition to us. You dismissed seven of those eight without any of them saying a single word to you. You made no attempt to force them to appear. In fact, since you started your investigation last year, you have interviewed a total of two people. Two.

A legal analysis prepared by two law firms and provided to you yesterday makes clear your subpoenas are legally invalid. You claim your subpoenas are inviolate when they are used against us yet were silent when the sitting President took the same position, as a former president, barely more than three years ago. We call on you to release that analysis to the public to allow them to see how this is yet another example of the casual disregard of the law of the land. All the while, you have done nothing with your oversight capacity to force the Department of Justice to follow the law and release all its Epstein files, including any material regarding us as we have publicly called for.

Over the last year in the House, extending health care for Americans in any state succeeded only because enough Republicans joined with Democrats. The fact that the public and we are seeing any of the Department of Justice's Epstein files is only because four Republicans, out of 220, joined every Democrat to reach the minimum number of Members to force a vote. You were not one of those four. Even now, despite the Department of Justice's failure to follow the law the Congress passed, you have chosen not to consider subpoenaing the sitting Attorney General to follow the law.

Despite everything that needs to be done to help our country, you are on the cusp of bringing Congress to a halt to pursue rarely used process literally designed to result in our imprisonment. This is not the way out of America's ills, and we will forcefully defend ourselves.

Indeed, bringing the Republicans' cruel agenda to a standstill while you work harder to pass a contempt charge against us than you have done on your investigation this past year would be our contribution to fighting the madness.

We have tried to give you the little information we have. We've done so because Mr. Epstein's crimes were horrific. If the Government didn't do all it could to investigate and prosecute these crimes, for whatever reason, that should be be the focus of your work - to learn why and to prevent that from happening ever again. There is no evidence that you are doing so. Instead, you have forced the victims to relive their painful experiences, while doing little to give them and everybody else what's deserved: truth and justice. There is no plausible explanation for what you are doing other than partisan politics.

You accepted the least from those who know the most but demand the most from those who know the least. To say you can't complete your work without speaking to us is simply bizarre.

You have asked what we know. To answer your inquiry, we are providing you with the same or more than seven of the other eight individuals you subpoenaed regarding the handling of the Epstein investigations and prosecutions, which may be why you have not publicly released their written statements.

We expect you will say it is not enough. We expect you'll reject it. You may even set out an empty empty chair chair o or stand in front of the cameras and outright dismiss what we have provided. We expect you will direct your committee to seek to hold us in contempt. You may even release irrelevant, decades-old photos that you hope will embarrass us. You will say your caucus, and the Speaker and the President are behind you 100%. We hope, perhaps in vain, that they will not allow you to singlehandedly hijack the Congress by unilaterally making this decision for your colleagues, your party, and our country.

You will say it is not our decision to make. But we have made it. Now you have to make yours.

We are prepared to make our case to your 45 committee members, and if need be, more. Importantly, we also will defend ourselves in the public arena and ensure this country knows exactly what you are doing and why you are doing so, instead of helping the American people who need this Congress's work and protection.

For most people, maybe even the bulk of the Congress, today will be the first they learn of this dispute. We are confident that any reasonable person in or out of Congress will see, based on everything we release, that what you are doing is trying to punish those who you see as your enemies and to protect those think are your friends.

Continue to mislead Americans about what is truly at stake, and you will learn that Americans are better at finding the truth than you are at burying it.

Continue to pursue autopens instead of penning laws Americans need, and you will learn that you are signing away any remaining chance of being on the right side of history.

Continue to abet the dismantling of America, and you will learn that it takes more than a wrecking ball to demolish what Americans have built over 250 years.

Sincerely,

[signed]
Bill Clinton
Hillary Rodham Clinton”

And, for the non-Facebook-phobes, a link to the FB piece…

https://www.facebook.com/100044425839641/posts/pfbid0eaYtbmepL6yNFASZa3dEANZFXqLweZ8Da6dVLpxjvyyEpfZGPRPXsCxXtrG8ZhJul/?

Thank goodness someone has the balls to stand up to the Nazis.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 09:25 AM

ICE clips have shown some disgusting behaviour of late ~ these louts have broken every law going and expect to be exonerated by the Trump administration

This cannot be right

ICE should get the hell out of there before Civil war really takes hold

God 'elp us

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 09:30 AM

The day of reckoning and retribution is coming.
quote Donald J. Trump yesterday.

Do not be surprised, he is as sick as he sounds.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 10:18 AM

Ha, and you thought that Putin would be first to attack Europe.
https://www.77diamonds.com/greenland-rubies

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 11:35 AM

Every person has to decide when they have seen or had enough and are ready to fight for this country, its principles and its people, no matter the consequences.

For us, now is that time.

Hmmm? I'm not sure I believe this. The term 'fake news' springs to mind. No disrespect, BWM, but I think I will wait for a more reliable source than something lifted from Facebook.

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 11:42 AM

It was carried on Facebook and many other places, but it also appeared in the New York Times. That should be a gift article that is making the rounds for at least a few days.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 11:54 AM

OK. I'll go with the New York Times as a reliable source.

DC

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 12:01 PM

Doug, the FB piece was taken from the NYT. I checked that it was legit. before I shared it (as, I strongly imagine, did Janis Ian, who shared it originally). I take the trouble to verify the source of stuff I share from FB, which is why I also give a link to the original piece.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: r.padgett
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 01:39 PM

Always a good idea to check sources before posting, well done all

Ray

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 03:51 PM

For a former President (and a former Secretary of state) to defy a Congressional subpoena is no small matter.

In theory, they could be charged, indicted, tried, and sent to prison.

That's what happened to Trumpster Peter Navarro.

Of course, the Clintons could always be pardoned by the sitting President....

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 26 - 06:58 PM

A clown with his pants all on fire
Or the act that's a nightmare of death
Or the scene where the villain's on meth
That's execution!

The lights on the lady in a spot
Or the cop with the gun thats still hot
Or the ICE where they give it a shot
That's execution!

The plot can be hot, simply full of trauma
Or a guy killed by tariffs who once was a farmer
It could be the fault of Obama
Where a chap kills his father and causes lots of bother

The clerk who is thrown out of work
By the boss who acts like a jerk
Or the skirt who is doing him dirt
The world is a stage; the stage is a world of entertainment!

It might be a fight like you see on the screen
A king being slain for the love of a queen
Some great Shakespearean scene
Where police meet a gal, then she ends in mincemeat

The guy who was waving the flag
That began with hating the fags
Hip hooray! The American way
The world is a stage; the stage is a world of execution!

When it rains, Donald's suing the sky
He wants to buy Greenland, only god knows why
Its Revenge, not drugs, that makes him high
The world is a stage; the stage is a world of execution!

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jan 26 - 09:41 AM

The data of every voter in Texas is now in the hands of the Trump administration. I wonder what that means and portends.

The EPA has been ordered to end the effects and factors on health and lives on the standards set for air pollution. anything goes...

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jan 26 - 11:23 AM

Since FB is broken (they changed their code so Facebook Purity can't filter out the keywords I try to block and the ads are coming through) I saw a post saying the Orange blob is threatening the Insurrection Act. This was always what he wanted.

In a sidebar, a congress member has introduced articles of impeachment for Noem. They can't be acted on too quickly.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 15 Jan 26 - 11:56 AM

They should be impeaching the FUOB.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jan 26 - 03:54 PM

Indeed, chaos is what he wants to justify martial law and seizing voting machines by the military. Intimidation unto death is the prime directive for dictators.