BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.

Subject: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:13 AM

Given that our Prince Harry chose to dress up as a Nazi (and was photographed in this costume) in order to attend a private fancy-dress party - perhaps the whole concept of this form of dressing up is worth a review.

For in truth - dressing-up as anything threatens to offend someone. Or should this form of dressing always be seen as harmless fun?

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:18 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4170083.stm

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: The Shambles
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:20 AM

The Sun reported that Prince William was also at the party - dressed as a lion.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:34 AM

Well at least William was slightly more in tune with the party theme (Colonial and Native - whatever happened to Tarts and Vicars!) than Harry... As far as I'm aware, Germany, and particularly Nazi Germany was never one of our colonies, nor is Harry a native of that country, despite having German forebears.

He is guilty of bad taste and should apologise himself. He is old enough to make these mistakes, drink and smoke, so he is old enough to say sorry for them himself.

Personally, I think it would have been funnier if he went dressed as Queen Victoria.....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:59 AM

There a bunch of idiots, shoot the lot of them.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST,John from Hull
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 04:00 AM

last guest was me.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 04:04 AM

Dressed as a Nazi? Did he raid the family dressing up box for a uniform belongng to a distant great uncle or summat?
Prat!

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 07:50 AM

I used to think Battenberg was just a cake, till I met Ponce Harry!

Don't be silly be smarty
Come and join the Nazi Party

Was he auditioning for a part in The Producers, or were his antecedents [ like that Amos? ] showing?

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST,harp
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 07:53 AM

Harry's going to be in MAJOR SHIT with Queenie!!!! Oh boy...how does one punish a prince?????

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST,shiplap structure
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 07:54 AM

I blame it on his deprived upbringing and lack of proper education Blame it on the parents

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST,artbrooks
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:40 AM

Tasteless, but I'll leave the Harry-bashing to our friends across the pond. However, just as a point of historical fact, I believe that the very small part of his ancestry that's German dates from well before Hitler was born, so it's very unlikely that he has Nazis in his family tree.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST,Giok After the power cut
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:44 AM

I don't know about in his family tree, but I do know the he is out of his tree.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST,Rapaire
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:48 AM

If he was doing historical re-enactment it might be different, but it was bad judgement on his part.

How do you punish a prince? Well, Richard III demonstrated one way. And in Burma they used to use velvet sacks....

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 08:53 AM

bad taste yes - but if you believe the war movies the Nazis were very active amongst the colonial areas - so it was in keeping with the theme.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 09:35 AM

it's very unlikely that he has Nazis in his family tree ... Edward VIII comes close, though! Maybe not actually a Nazi, but certainly a sympathiser!

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST,Brucie
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 10:31 AM

I thought this thread title was saying that he wore a fancy DRESS somewhere.

As to the Nazi uniform: what a bloody fool.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 11:42 AM

Inbreeding, Brucie, inbreeding.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 11:53 AM

I think Harry exposed a basic British and European mentality.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: PoppaGator
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 11:54 AM

Tempest in a teapot, as far as I can see.

What I heard on the news was that the theme for the costume party was "bad taste" as well as "colonial and native," and Harry certainly succeeded in portraying bad taste.

FYI to my fellow Amuricans: In Britspeak, a "fancy-dress party" is what we'd call a "costume party."

The Shambles asks:

"...dressing-up as anything threatens to offend someone. Or should this form of dressing always be seen as harmless fun? "

I say "yes," it's nothing BUT harmless fun. Of course, I live in a city where masking/costuming is a way of life; we're used to it and manage to maintain a clam perspective about it. Anyone who can't take a joke? F*** 'im!

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:02 PM

Once again, the press have latched on to a silly mistake and blown it out of all proportion...don't know if it is the same over the pond but the papparazi have gone loopy here. I saw a programme last night on TV which portrayed their cloak and dagger tactics to get a scoop...an original story that no other newspaper has...or some sort of embarrassing photograph of a celebrity..taken in secret. In my personal opinion, there should be a law that keeps anyones privacy from the camera. But that's the way of the commercial world I suppose and we all have to accept it...or do we?
Best wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:11 PM

It was a private party, not a public occasion. In my book that makes it absolutely bugger-all to do with anyone else. If Joe Soap from Somewhereville had done it we'd never have heard about it, but those shitty-arsewipe so-called 'journalists' are so bone-idle and bereft of talent or imagination that they're incapable of finding or recognising a real 'story', so they take the easy option of following poor buggers like him around hoping he'll drop a bollock so they can enrich themselves by crucifying him. Leave him alone, he's just a kid being a kid - we all had bad taste when we were kids, didn't we? I remember going through a phase of drawing swastikas all over the covers of my school and college books, holding my comb under my nose and goose-stepping around the place 'Heil-Hitlering' and thinking I was really clever, but eventually I grew up and realised I'd been behaving like a shit. He'll grow up too, if he's given some peace and time to do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Gervase
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:19 PM

This wasn't a pap snap - this was a picture taken on a chuckaway camera by one of his mates at the party!
Still a prat, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:21 PM

Even worse - a treacherous twat.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: frogprince
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:28 PM

I've been waiting for "for the other shoe to drop"; that is, for the one detail that would put this in some perspective. If the party had an explicit "bad taste" theme, that is it. The young man should have realized that, in his position, it wasn't really a "cool move"; but talk of keeping someone out of the army because he wore the wrong distasteful costume to a party with a "bad taste" theme is pitiful.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:30 PM

I'm guessing we'll be seeing a lot more outrageous, attention-getting behavior from Prince Harry. Just think about how invisible he must feel living in the shadows of so many prominent people. He doesn't look much like his mother, who casts an enormous shadow (so he can't have her glory-by-association as his brother does), and he isn't likely to ever become King, as his father may be, and his brother William is. He's the perfect candidate for perpetual "bad boy".

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:38 PM

What a complete moron he is and the same for those making some kind of excuse for this idiot.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Les from Hull
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:41 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:46 PM

Martin, I don't know if you are refering to my post when you say "making excuse". But if you are, I am doing no such thing. What I am doing is making a prediction.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:51 PM

I predict that you will always live in a trailer and never work and contribute much of anything to the greater American society.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:57 PM

We're all capable of stupidity sometimes Martin - doesn't make us worthless, just 'occasionally stupid'. Words like 'glasshouses' and 'stones' should be borne in mind by those who would seek to damn completely a young man who occasionally behaves foolishly. 'Let he who is without blemish cast the first stone' as The Man said.

And maybe those of us who live in the mellifluous warmth and comfort of Anonimity (i.e. you, me and 99.99999999999% of the world's population) have no real concept of what it is to spend ones life under an extremely public microscope. One is whom one is is simply by accident - there's no justification for crucifixion of the famous, simply because of the fact of their fame, by the anonymous. It's a vicious and cowardly act.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:59 PM

Martin you are a worthless, scumsucking, psychopath and I know who you are and you have always been a psychopath since you first showed up here. Why not walk out in front of a bus and improve the world?

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 12:59 PM

One too many 'is'-es in there, but you know what I mean!
S:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: robomatic
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:01 PM

Not his finest hour. Possibly he needs some attention. Possibly he didn't have his thinking cap on. He's only 20 (I think) and there's them in that family that take a while to mature.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:01 PM

And 'GUEST' absolutely wasn't me.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:02 PM

Well, your prediction would be wrong then, Martin.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:32 PM

The funniest thing about this was hearing it on the radio just as I woke up, and the time it took me to realize they weren't talking about Harry POTTER!

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Grab
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:40 PM

Good job no-one got photos of the "Sound of Music" party in Cambridge last year, where apparently there were a dozen or so people (male and female) in SS uniforms goose-stepping down the centre of town!

Bit of a silly thing for Harry to do though, bcos it clearly isn't in context for the party.

Graham.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:44 PM

again - why wouldn't it be in context for the party - as the nazies were quite active in the colonies? or presumed to be - judging by novels, movies, etc?

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:44 PM

It was clearly in bad taste, especially in the run-up to holocaust memorial day on the 27th of this month, which the Royal Family will be taking a leading role in commemorating."

One can only hope that our Harry will now to be seen as playing a major part in this. The huge volume of negative publicity generated by his ill-advised choice of costume can then result in a lot of positive publicity being focused on this event

Hopefully ensuring that other young folk of Harry's generation will be better informed than he was.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Gervase
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:44 PM

Well, he takes after his father. Always thought Hewitt was a Grade-A w*nker.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: *Laura*
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:46 PM

*he isn't likely to ever become king*

I would have thought that was a relief to be honest!
He probably did it on purpose bacause he knew everyone would have a reaction.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 01:47 PM

His father - you mean the Kensington Palace milkman?

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 02:00 PM

I thought that had all died a death... he looks more like his uncle Althorp (pronounced prat) than he does any other candidate....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 02:16 PM

You mean Diana and her brother? That's gross!

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Ooh-Aah2
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 02:42 PM

I had no idea that the theme of the party was 'bad taste' - this cools down my initial intense anger somewhat. Still, he should have known a lot better. The only person who can dress up as a Nazi to take the piss is Charlie Chaplin.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 02:46 PM

My prediction is right.

OK, Guest you know who I am. I'm really, really impressed.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:13 PM

We should all rally around the British Royal Family in their hour of need. I'm sure they'll appreciate our total support during this 'major' crisis. Let's start an appeal fund of some sort. There must be some money left in our pockets .....................

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:24 PM

Surely just following in the footsteps of dear great great Ucle teddy and Aunty Walace those well known British Nazis- I feel sorry for the poor valet who let him out of Clarence House in the clobber in the first place probably an ex vaet now -surely someone might have suggested it was in poor taste? his elder brother for example?

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:29 PM

Martin, nothing you say is ever right. That's not about to change now.

Subject: RE: BS: Prince Harry and fancy dress.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Jan 05 - 03:35 PM

In fact I believe it was supposed to be a Rommel Afrika Korps uniform.

Taking the piss out of the Nazis by dressing up in one of their comical uniforms has been done before often enough. It's generally understood as an expression of contempt rather than admiration.

However the whole idea of a Home and Colonial party with an African theme seems a bit distasteful, largely because it's only too likely to be seen as an expression of nostalgia rather than contempt.

Maybe he'd have done better to dress up as someone from the North American Colonies.