Guy FawkesDay celebration Baltimore 2002

Subject: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From:
Date: 20 Oct 02 - 09:32 AM

Greetings!

Be it known to one and all every one that Guy Fawkes Day Bonfire night celebrations will be held in Linthicum Md. Nov.9 Saturday from 4:30 onward.
All are welcome to the festivities which include food and drink and a huge christmas pudding (because it burns) a bonfire and real torches.
The musically inclined will enjoy the chants competition and the many period songs some written about the Guy Himself.

Who was Guy Fawkes and what is all this?
Check here
http://www.bcpl.net/%7Ecbladey/guy/html/mainz.html
especially interesting is our new updated section in the ritual area about guys and our complete collection of chants.

For details send me an e.mail.
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Oct 02 - 09:57 AM

.....Have a fawkin great time and get completely fawked up you fawkin little pissant fawker.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From:
Date: 20 Oct 02 - 10:09 AM

http://www.bcpl.net/~cbladey/guy/html/mainz.html

What a wonderful response!
see corrected url above

clickithere

Conrad

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Oct 02 - 11:05 AM

Actually Conrad, I look forward to Guy fawkes Day every year so I can fawkin use his fawkin name to fawkin fake over and fawkers that my own fawkin self fawkin decides to fawk with.........Hmmmmmmm, I'm sure I could have worked some more fawkes into that last bit.........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Oct 02 - 11:36 AM

Here our slogan for the Center for Fawkesian Pursuits bonfire society
-the only bonfire society in North America
is'

NO FAUX FAWKES

Stop by for some virtual fireworks and a virtual bonfire.

Lots of Fawkesen around

Conrad


">clickit here

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 21 Oct 02 - 08:33 AM

Why are there Guy Fawkes celebrations in Baltimore?

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: GUEST,T-boy
Date: 22 Oct 02 - 08:23 AM

I'm glad to hear that the Americans are keeping it going. Here in UK, which is where it started after all, it's being strangled out of existence by over-regulation and by reluctance of insurance companies to give cover due to the modern propensity of people to sue each other. So now it's big commercial displays or nothing. Enjoy !!!

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From:
Date: 22 Oct 02 - 08:55 PM

Yes! We are keeping it going! A bad year in the Uk this time with a firemans strike etc....
Anyone nearby can attend here- we are just outside of baltimore not far from DC near BWI air port- only 10 minutes or less- so you can fly in!
Just off I95 and BW parkway.
All are welcome!
You can reach us at [e-mail]
for instructions.

We celebrate for many reasons and tolerate all points of view on the celebration. -great food, games for kids, real burning torches and chants!
For more on the plot and celebration go to
http://www.cbladey.com
select reference pages from the menu on left then fawkes.
say yes at main page and head through to the main menu.

I have just expanded our Bonfire Prayers and customs booklet-

Bonfire Prayers, customs Recipes songs and chants for Guy fawkes day
isbn 0970238665

Dont go without one. All the known chants and basic guide got guys and customs.



Prices at amazon are much more expensive than from me direct I think
it goes for $5 or so...

to enquire about prices and shipping send e.mail to

cbladey@bcplnet

Remember Remember!

Conrad

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: Fiolar
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 08:50 AM

What exactly is to celebrate in the death by torture of a man who had the misfortune to be used as a catspaw by the then anti-Catholic state? Now if you were the celebrate the original bon-fire night of St John's Eve.

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 09:45 AM

Conrad is the Internet's most notorious Orange bigot, and he celebrates the persecution of Irish Catholics in particular anywhere people let him get away with it. Try asking about him on the Irish and Celtic music newsgroups and lists sometime, and see what response you get.

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From:
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 12:02 PM

Actually we do not celebrate the death of any one. We celebrate the preservation of king and parliament. At our celebration we even pause for a moment to consider the bravery of the plotters. (we try to suit every interest-most of those in attendance are catholics.) The plot was not just a plot of English Citizens It was a part of the Counter Reformation -a political movement on the part of a political pope to dominate England. Fortunately by 1605 English Nationalism was sufficiently developed to be able to reject foreign domination. The rising in the midlands which was the centerpiece of the entire plot failed miserably rejected by the ordinary people.

Actually we do not celebrate the persecution of Irish catholics or any other. We celebrate the fact that english catholics and representatives of the pope failed to torture maim and kill english citizens and bring down the government in favor of a catholic state. Let us be clear here who the persecutors were- they were clearly all catholic.

The separation of church and state and freedom from dominance by foreign powers is at the center of the celebration.
This is a problem that we have today with some of the "religious"

Father Henry Garnet chief jesuit of england at the time knew all about the plot. As an english citizen his first obligation was to save life and limb and turn in the plotters. He did not do this. Instead he deferred to the opinion of the pope.

The same is true today. We in the USA have seen the Catholic "religious" fail to act lawfully as citizens of the USA. Those knowing about the sex crimes did not do their duty and turn the offenders in or remove them from service. Clearly catholic "religious" still think they are above the law of our country. This is the disturbing aspect of the recent scandals. Much more disturbing than the crimes themselves. Even recently the catholic administrators, bishops and cardinals when coming up with a plan to bring sex offenders to justice could not simply follow the law and implement it. Quite the contrary- they first had to get the ok of the pope. One should not have to have the permission of any other party to be a law abiding citizen.

We must continue to remember what happened in 1605.
Nations have recently seen their governments brought down by the pope.
While I would agree with that action (vs. east block) I do not think it is legitimate or permissable for a religious leader to bring down any state. We are just lucky that the pope did not target us!

As we can see clearly the us bishops would have a hard time deciding wether to support church or country.

Our Web Page resources are here for anyone interested in learning of the history of the plot and celebration.

http://www.bcpl.net/%7Ecbladey/guy/html/mainz.html

all are welcome to our celebration near Baltimore on Nov.9 Saturday
starting at 4:30 PM

Many will also be interested in our new book:

Bonfire Prayers Customs Recipes Songs and Chants for Guy Fawkes Day
isbn 0970238665
Hutman Productions
PO 268
Linthicum Md. 21090

$4.50 including us postage
for out of country postage please inquire
[e-mail]

Available soon via amazon but the price there is much higher.

Remember, Remember the fifth of November

Gunpowder Treason and Plot

I see NO reason that gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.

THOSE WHO DO NOT REMEMBER THEIR HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT

Conrad

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 12:50 PM

Guy Fawkes - the only man ever to enter the houses of parliament with honest intentions!!

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 01:02 PM

BTw there Guest, several of us have beaten the crap out of Conrad around here on numerous occasions. Sadly, we do have an open membership and some people around the joint are real champions of "poor Conrad" because he posts some songs. I now limit myself to telling him to Fawke himself instead of referring to him as the world's #1 super pissant and an unmitigated cocksucker of major proportion, capable of sucking the shit out of a hippo's ass.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 01:17 PM

You might do better to just ignore him, rather than abuse him. He very much enjoys the abuse.

BTW, the other forums where he once posted were also open, none required membership. He was shunned, and eventually gave it up. He has now taken to roosting here, as the membership is so easily trolled. People like Conrad always gravitate to those of like kind...

There is no mention this year by Conrad or anyone else in the Usenet folk music forums of celebrating the 12th of July or Guy Fawkes.

Public shunning of bigots is a tactic some Mudcat members might like to explore a little further. It makes for a much more pleasant internet chat experience.

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From:
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 07:49 PM

Well! I must be getting old and slipping....must do something about that.
By the way Guest....might be fun if you signed your attacks.
or that is to say abuse....

No bigots here just honest historians connecting the dots.
Sorry.....some times people you want to like do bad things.
Too bad people did not save their children from those they trusted
without reason. Ignoring the facts is perhaps a trait of certain groups.
They are identified by their reaction to every observation with the cry of Biggotry....tisk tisk...

That time of year again!
For all the proper chants and prayers and songs related to the gunpowder plot and the celebration of its discovery go here:
http://www.bcpl.net/~cbladey/guy/html/ritual.html
From this page go to the main menu where you will find chants,songs and all kinds of information about celebration.
Have a great bonfire!
The main page for the Fawkes/Bonfire/Gunpowder Plot pages is here:
http://www.bcpl.net/~cbladey/guy/html/ritual.html
The most extensive resource concerning the gunpowder Plot/Guy Fawkes Day/Bonfire night on the internet.
You can even blow up parliament, create a virtual bonfire and have virtual fireworks.....check it out!

Remember to Remember the 5th of November!

Conrad

Subject: RE: BS: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 07:56 PM

Reset my cookie!
Forgot to mention that we also remember remember the landing of king william III in 1689-
November 5

Another step toward liberation and democracy occuring on that day!

Conrad Bladey

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Subject: Folklore: Celebrate Guy Fawkes/Bonfire- Baltimor
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 23 Sep 04 - 01:31 PM

Remember Remember the Fifth of November- But do it on the 6th....
Your free admission to our Guy Fawkes Celebration includes-
-Beer
-Turkey dinner(turkey cooked in pit on hot rocks1)
-Food
-Loads of chants and fireworks....
-Bonfire
-Real torch procession

Come one come all....we open the gates and in you walk....
All are welcome especially children....

Date- November 5, 2004
Place- 402 Nancy Ave.
       Linthicum (suburb of baltimore) 21090

Contact- [e-mail]

We are five minutes from I 95 and BW Parkway probably less....
We are 3 blocks from Baltimore Light rail station- North Linthicum
We are 10 minutes from BWI airport!

Keg tapped at 4:30 Festivities start 5:30

CB

Subject: RE: Folklore: Celebrate Guy Fawkes/Bonfire- Baltimor
From: PoppaGator
Date: 23 Sep 04 - 01:40 PM

Irish (and other Catholics) Need Not Apply?

Subject: RE: Folklore: Celebrate Guy Fawkes/Bonfire- Baltim
From: open mike
Date: 23 Sep 04 - 02:31 PM

THIS IS ALSO NEAR TO THE TIME OF THE DAY OF THE DEAD MEXICAN CELEBRATION

Subject: RE: Folklore: Celebrate Guy Fawkes/Bonfire- Baltim
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 23 Sep 04 - 03:48 PM

Everyone welcome.
Those who know about the celebration know that is about many things for many people and open to many interpretations. Just fun, bonfire and fireworks. In most places and at ours!

Conrad

Subject: RE: GUY FAWKES CELEBRATIONS BALTIMORE
From: GUEST,the scot gal
Date: 19 Oct 04 - 12:53 PM

well done conrad, do something for your country ignore the slang, if i could afford to fly over to america i would, but england is rather a long way to come have a good time.............