BS: Republican Stench

Subject: BS: More Republican Stench
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Dec 04 - 11:37 PM

Hey, fuck adequate health care! - we got towelheads ta kill & poor starving millionaires to care for.

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By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Michael Leavitt, President Bush's choice to be secretary of Health and Human Services, may have to cut billions of dollars from the government's mammoth health programs for the elderly, poor and disabled to pare the budget deficit.

Medicare and Medicaid programs, consuming nearly $500 billion a year and growing quickly, could be vulnerable in the context of last year's $413 billion budget deficit, the ongoing war in Iraq (news - web sites), costly domestic security commitments and administration plans to revamp Social Security (news - web sites) without raising taxes.

[Leavitt]was chief operating officer of the Leavitt Group, a family insurance firm in which he maintains an investment worth between $5 million and $25 million, according to a financial disclosure report he filed in 2003.

The company owns 100 independent insurance agencies that sell supplemental Medicare policies, among other insurance products, according to company literature.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041214/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cabinet

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Dec 04 - 11:56 PM

Or he may not.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Amos
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 05:37 PM

More modernly, look how Bill Frist puts his own requirements above the commonweal:

"Dr. Frist's Late-Night Surgery
Gambling with Port Security

What does a ban on Internet gambling have to do with port security? If
you said "nothing" than you haven't been following the goings on in
Congress. Late Friday night/early Saturday morning, the House and
Senate passed an important bill increasing security at our nation's
ports. However, the bill contained an unrelated provision banning the
use of credit cards for most forms of Internet gambling. Highly-placed
Hill sources have informed yours truly that the gambling provisions were
placed there because of a last-minute demand by Senate Majority Leader
Bill Frist.

According to my sources, First walked into the House-Senate Conference
Committee Friday night as they where completing work on the bill and
demanding that they insert the gambling provision in the bill or else he
would block it from consideration on the Senate floor. Most
representatives and senators probably had no idea the gambling provision
was in the bill.

Congressman Ron Paul's Sunlight Rule would put an end to these type of
late-night shenanigans.

Richard Wilkins"

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 07:50 PM

My wife is a Fed in charge of the economics of national health . On a good day she can save the country a million or 2 or recommend what needs to be done to save lives. Its depressing that it gets wiped out in 25 seconds by the corporate cost of war.

Overall in the last 6 years there has been a war against research that seems to fly in the face of objectivity.
Its almost as though there is a deliberate effort to bring US scientific expertise down to a third world status.
The US ranks #23 in the advancement of certain health issues.
(irrelevant comparison -> US ranks #1 in school shootings.)
The methodology that is employed to kill research lately is to first combine research of 'apples' with 'oranges'. The second step is then to declare the project ineffective and discontinue both.

Most of the money that is "lost" in the government is due to outsourcing/ paying 20 times more money to a private corporation.
Today for example the news reported how Los Alamos outsourced there data archiving job to a private corporation. They found some of that data in print and on disk at a meth amphetamine lab in New Mexico today. I'm not saying outsourcing is a Republican crime, I'm just saying that the government used to be able to do the work 20 times cheaper.

The Republican revolution said we will shrink government!
They did. They did so well that for a couple years there was no one in Congress (experienced staffers) that even knew how to write a bill. Now it is common for private corporations to write the new laws for our Country. Then the laws are inserted without debate or oversight in the dead of night as an "ear mark".

I'm being kind when I describe Congress in these terms. It is far worse than I am privy to.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: kendall
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 08:43 PM

And that's why their approval rating is only 16%

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Amos
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 10:42 PM

The 109th Congress has not been kind to you or this country.

A retrospective of actions and laws undertaken can be found on this page. Very informative.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 08:09 AM

In the end it all comes down to the same things:-

1) the other side have to pick a candidate who doesn't speak or resemble an alien life form. these do not grow on trees. the labour party of England had to wait 18 years before it came up with Tony Blair. They haven't clicked on yet, that they will be lost once they dethrone him.

2) more of you have to vote, and you have to persuade your friends that it matters if they don't vote. the people of England are quite as cynical as Americans, but even so nearly 20% more go out to vote at the time of a general election. if you can't appeal to their common sense, appeal to their unfair predjudices. But either way - if you want change, you must organise.

And its no use bitching about the lousy unfair media. Murdoch switched from backing the tories when he saw they were about to lose the next election - guys like Murdoch, and the big networks - they're like jackals - they want as big a slice as possible of whatever's going on.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Metchosin
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 02:31 PM

A Republican candidate for the US Senate , Bob Corker, from Tennessee, has raised the ire of some Candians within our government, with his campaign ads. Seems the ad basically accused Canada of contributing nothing to the US's war on terrorism.

Considering that a Canadian soldier serving in Afghanistan is 6 times more likely to die, than an American soldier serving in Iraq, I'm a bit curious to know exactly by what yardstick Mr. Corker measures our contribution. It certainly doesn't seem to be a yardstick with any value based upon human life. At the very least Mr. Corker owes an apology to the families of the Canadian soldiers who have paid the ultimate price for their involvement.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 02:37 PM

At the very least Mr. Corker owes an apology...

No, no NO! You just don't get it.

Being a Republican means never having to say you're sorry..... or wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 03:56 PM

I was sent this:

The difference between Democrats and Republicans:

Democrats use bookmarks.
Republicans like to bend over the pages.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 12:04 AM

The stench is just as offensive when the Democrats are in power. Why can we not find honest decent people to run our country? Why do we tolerate a system that forces a politician to prostitute himself in order to get into or remain in power? And most importantly, why do we even listen to, never mind believe, campaign promises?

I voted today via absentee ballot. For the first time in my life I am seriously considering never voting again.

Mary, thoroughly disgusted.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 02:27 AM

Democrats vote for the Republican measures. Democrats don't stall or filibuster. Hillary's the biggest supporter of the latest war, one that's produced 65,000 American amputees so far. Pelosi says she won't impeach Bush. The 2 parties cover for each other.

The Clintons and Bushes don't give a crap about you. You are just the dirt on their shoes. There is no difference between the parties. You all know this, and yet you're afraid to let go of the myth of the two-party system.

You need to vote incumbents out of office. Republican AND Democrat. The people who got us to the point of WW3 are bad. Vote them out of office. And start talking to the people in your community now about getting rid of the local scoundrels. The local yokle with a badge is going to go gestapo on you if he or she has gone along with the program this far, so vote 'em out. This election is our last chance to get it right.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: 282RA
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 08:07 AM

>>Republicans like to bend over the pages.<<

Apparently republicans enjoy bending over.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 09:18 AM

...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness....

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 09:22 AM

It seems Bush and Co. do NOT consider those rights inalienable.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 09:49 AM

"and Company" includes many of the Democrats who were too afraid of losing votes to oppose bush's agenda. The American people fall in line too - they would have voted out anyone unpatriotic enough to oppose a president in time of war, at least a while back.
I am disgusted.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Charley Noble
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 09:33 PM

"...the latest war, one that's produced 65,000 American amputees so far."

Hell, I've never supported this war but even I know that 65,000 is an incredible inflation of our wounded, let alone amputees.

I do wish our guests would marshal up the real facts which are grim enough, and if they would have the grace to include Iraqies in the count their argument would be even more persuasive. Do some basis Goggling instead of shooting from the hip!

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Big Mick
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 09:37 PM

Yeah, Charley. The facts are good enough. When one throws shit like this out, they don't help the cause, they hurt it. Folks then start attacking erroneous figures instead of debating the issue.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 09:40 PM

Liebermann, Clinton, Pelosi, Feinstein...fascist mindsets. They want big-govt control as much as any of the Bush mafioso. Don't buy into the "difference" between Reps and Dems. If it's an incumbent, get rid of it.

I went in to vote early this week but decided to wait until there are some poll watchers around on election day. Got into a dispute about our small county's first use of electronic voting machines, too. Big change this time is optical scanning, but that's of paper ballots and the ballots will be held for 22 months, they say. The thing that upset me more was the single electronic machine in the courthouse. Sitting there just to condition us...get us used to its nasty presence. I grilled the women at the polling place about it and they didn't know squat. It's an ESS machine, I know about the software, etc. I told them it was an abomination and asked how they could allow it inside the building...they should be fine tuning it with sledge hammers. In walked a big oaf in boots and a cowboy hat, with his mousy wife, and he directed her to the electronic machine while I was still debating whether to vote early or wait...studying my sample ballot. I continued my conversation with the ladies and Hopalong chimed in saying I didn't know what I was talking about. Said he'd been using electronic voting for years in New York (should've known, a yankee). All I had to say was "Hillary" and "Schumer" to shut him up, then I pointed out to his wife that the machine she was voting on was private property, and the courts had already ruled that in a recount, ESS can deny access to their machines on the basis that the software is patented private propterty. Which means they will own her vote. She got HIGHLY agitated at this news, and the women at the table started barking at me and I thanked them and told them I'd be back on election day, when more people were looking over their shoulders.

These were the same three crones I danced with last time around because all the local candidates were running unopposed (gave them the "Soviet Union" lecture that time). And this is in a central Texas Republican county. Republicans running unopposed. But the same thing is going on 80 miles away on the other side of Austin. I know of one county over there where all the Democratic candidates are running unopposed. See, they predetermine who will win what in order to achieve a 50-50 balance. They offset that balance from time to time to create tension and backlash, but people, we're being played. The only way to beat the system is to VOTE AGAINST ALL INCUMBENTS. And vote for the one with the chance to win. There needs to be a MASSIVE rejection of the Republican/Democrat torture state. So vote the people who gave it to us out of office. Vote against the incumbents and vote for the one with the chance to win. This is the last chance we'll get to correct things with the ballot box in America.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: GUEST, another one entirely.
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 02:04 AM

That's not a plan. That's the sort of thing you do when you don't have a plan.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Oct 06 - 01:04 AM

Gone.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Amos
Date: 31 Oct 06 - 12:17 PM

An interesting editorial on the right-wing racist tactics used against Harold Ford in his senate campaign should be read as a reminder of what the bad old days were like. It can be found here.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Oct 06 - 12:46 PM

Just in (via email) - *the* explanation for the situation in the US:

"A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the
densest element yet known to science. The new element has been named
"Bushcronium."

Bushcronium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75
deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311. These particles are held together by dark forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

The symbol for Bushcronium is "W". Bushcronium's mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons in a Bushcronium molecule, forming isodopes.

This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to believe that Bushcronium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as "Critical Morass".

When catalyzed with money, Bushcronium activates Foxnewsium, an element that radiates orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since it has 1/2 as many peons but twice as many morons."

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 01:07 AM

The days of putting a Bush mask on America's problems are over. You too old to change or something?

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 07:07 PM

Rapaire,

Your post is seditious in nature and may be viewed by this administration as treasonous. It sounds like the kind of stuff "activist judges" would say.

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 10:09 PM

If you are interested in casualties check out this web site:
http://www.icasualties.org/oif/
How the data was obtained is available on the website.

Nonfatal casualties:
Army = 33,838
Navy = 1,099
Marines = 8,589
Air Force = 11,253
TOTAL 44,779

Cap't Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Republican Stench
From: Amos
Date: 01 Nov 06 - 10:36 PM

In addition to the above here's the other half of King George's bill:

Iraqi Deaths Since April 28, 2005
(Shiite-led government announced):
Police/Mil: 3879
Civilians: 18458
Total: 22337

Iraqi Deaths Since February 22, 2006
(Al Askari Mosque bombing):
Police/Mil: 1581
Civilians: 12350
Total: 13931

U.S. Deaths Confirmed By The DoD:        2816
Reported U.S. Deaths Pending DoD Confirmation:        3
Total        2819

Just imagine, if 22,300 Iraqi citizens and 2800 American trained men and women were to deploy together with lots of funding to accomplish something positive in the Middle East, what they might be capable of.

Oh, not those....they're dead. Sorry. Choose some others.

A