MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 23 - 04:44 PM

Hands down Rap got the last post on the resurrected MOAB thread.
What parodies and poetries
of the thread are dead and
lost forever to never
be seen again.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 23 - 09:31 PM

Turns out that putting all the Trump post eggs in one basket was a bad idea. History is written by the winners. Destroying counter histories is part of that process.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 23 - 09:55 PM

It turns out the daughter of the King of BS, Ivanka, suffered injuries from a malfunctioning court X-ray security machine. The 'extruded plastic implants' in her nose face and breasts de-adhered and sagged from the overheated radiation. An emergency plastic surgery procedure will try to reverse the accident to change the result that resembles Rosie O'Donnell.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 23 - 09:36 AM

PS the PM feature is disabled for me.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 23 - 03:16 PM

I did not know that about Roseanne.

MOAB has been a sanctuary for the biggest whoppers as well as the deepest truths, art, and confessions.
In the last 5 to 8 years the police and federal government have used a technology called Stingray made by Harris Corporation and its clandestine use has been reported in the WSJ. It can be handheld, driven around, or fly high by drone over populations that have cell phone use. It acts like a cell tower that takes everything without permission. Untold numbers of immigrants have been located and all their data collected. It has also been used to collect all the data of protesters like the women's march after the Trump inauguration. What is wrong with this practice is that a search warrant is not requested to take all of the data. Its like the 4th amendment has disappeared.

Many aspects of our current information crises are covered in the documentary 'Web of Make Believe', death lies & the internet.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 23 - 04:18 PM

btw transmogrification is seldom seen on Mudcat. The Republican party has also undergone a transmogrification.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Nov 23 - 07:03 AM

Is it only below the line that is torn asunder?

Subject: RE: DECLUTTER * Health/Home Ecologic-Innovation *2023
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Nov 23 - 07:27 AM

There is a health innovation that is prone to AI discovery that is too complex for the human mind. It is the folding of proteins in our cells that are governed by our genes. The errors in the shape of proteins are relatively many and either correct themselves or sends cells into self-destruct mode. There are hundreds of disorders and disease systems that can result from misshapen proteins. Some may make you feel like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed and others can cause retinitis pigmentosa or dementia. We did reverse a couple malformed proteins and restored vision in mice but doing so for humans and the hundreds of cooperating genes is well in the future.

We used to crowd source computer space to solve protein problems but AI may speed up this process. Put a pin in it.

Subject: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Nov 23 - 10:06 AM

The original Mother of all BS threads had 59238 posts when it expired, and many thousands more lost in a couple of major Mudcat crashes.

The MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex] has a puny (but poetic) 3636 posts. It has died the death of a thousand 500 codes, kept from dropping off the bottom of the page solely with infusions of posts transferred there by moderation.

This thread is one that will look at some of the historic original posts. Because you can see them if you know where to look - the original folks who posted there all have post histories that include their MOAB posts, even if you can't open the thread itself. So posting links to a few of the original participants will help revisit MOM's glory days, when Tweed and Khandu and Amos and Bee-dubya-ell and others dropped in to tell stories and share poetry.

I'll move over a couple of the last posts from the [annex] thread to see if we can give this one some legs to run with, so this "first" post will probably drop down the list some.

---

How's this for a little Mudelf magic? There are posts from the original MOM thread! ---mudelf

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Nov 23 - 05:23 PM

There's an error message on the MOAB/annex thread, so the BS will have to live here.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Nov 23 - 07:31 PM

I tried pushing a message over into the MOAB annex to point people back here, but it seems to have vanished in the ether.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Nov 23 - 11:53 AM

If you want to pick a comedian to suggest is a transmogrification for Ivanka, Rosie O'Donnell isn't the one. I'd suggest using Rosanne Barr who actually hangs out with the family and/or their attorneys.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Nov 23 - 03:09 PM

I guess this means that
we can't post to the annex thread any more?
Then where will all the current BS go?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 19 Nov 23 - 08:33 AM

> The Republican party has also undergone a transmogrification.

If so, it's got the Greebo nature. Repeat-by: tickle it under the chin, then check whether your arm is still attached.

Subject: RE: MOAB - Mother of All BS [annex]
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Oct 23 - 08:32 PM

Good News! The warships of the fleet of the Galactic Overlord have been determined to be ensnared in the Galactic Web! This is not expected to last long.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Nov 23 - 09:44 AM

Aw, a cute li’l baby girl!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Nov 23 - 04:31 AM

Aw, snoogie-woogie li’l woogums! You are just like your granny-wanny, always drinking from a bottle.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Nov 23 - 10:09 AM

THE NEW OIL

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Nov 23 - 08:07 PM

Remember the asteroid movie Armageddon, here is a comet with a dust eruption. poof

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Nov 23 - 04:35 PM

The harder the powers that be fight your FOIA request the more they have to hide.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Nov 23 - 07:10 PM

In the war against tolerance Joe posted that he can not understand why Stilly would allow me to post ideas and history. Well when it comes to my notes on Rachel Maddow's podcast Prequel she deletes them on the grounds they are off topic philosophy.
So check out Rachel Maddow podcasts on your own to expand your sense of history.

Joe goes on to say my head is up my ass but I still believe that when history is being changed or deleted by agenda, you should know the history that is being attacked and why.

Subject: RE: BS: New news *not* about the virus
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Nov 23 - 08:47 AM

I will name the iceberg Donueland and charge fees for tourists on the mystery cruise. It is spring and summer for the iceberg and it should last until winter when a second season is possible. Icebergs melt from the bottom up at a millimeter a second. At 1000 feet thick it could really last a long time. With any luck, I hope it eventually docks in the Seychelles but Australia is possible. Comon down and beat the heat of global warming.
Up here this is the winter for discount tents so bring your tent and money for the improv restaurants via flights from South Africa.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Nov 23 - 09:08 AM

Mom? I’ll be home for supper. I’d like some of your famous barbecued chicken gizzards, please.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Nov 23 - 08:23 PM

I’m home, mom. Even te 92mph wind and 30+ foot waves didn’t get me! And I defended your honor against a scurrilous troll! He called a you a ¥£[<>§§&$@! In twelfth century Norwegian and I just couldn’t let that slide! Anyway, he’s a 30 meter high boulder now.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Dec 23 - 08:00 PM

I still can't get used to seeing a MOAB thread with so few posts in it.
Glad to hear that Rapparee is safely home and hungry as ever.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Dec 23 - 10:14 PM

If you don't know, I fell outside my room in a hotel in Oslo, Norway. I have a REAL shiner of a black eye and my glasses frame cut a slit just below my right eyebrow. It's quite a mess and yes, there was a decent amount of blood shed (some of it got on the cover the book I had just purchased). When I finally got up I located the things I'd been carrying and got into the room, from which I called my wife. I went to the front desk and reported the incident. I chose not to go to the doctor/hospital/ambulance/etc.

When I got back home I made an appointment with my ophthalmologist and primary care medico. The latter I saw yesterday (also about a cold I have contracted) and the former today.

Apart from being achy and have an "eye area bruise" that's a real beauty, I'm just a bit vertiginous now and then. Yesterday the PCP told me to take the cough medicine and be VERY careful for a while when walking, etc. The eye doctor told me that I was "damend lucky" because apart from "giving your eye a shaking up there isn't anything I can see that's wrong." Of course, both said the come quickly or even go to the ER/AE if problems develop, stuff like flashes of light, which can indicate a detached retina. Stuff I don't want to have.

Anyway, that's the run down on my injury. The fall occurred last Sunday, five days ago.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Dec 23 - 02:11 PM

Sorry that happened to you, Rapparee.
I had a fall last month, still nursing a hurt knee from it.
The worst part was the shock.
I was lucky that that was the worst of it.

Do what the doctor tells you, and feel better soon.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Dec 23 - 05:29 AM

I hope steps were not involved. They can be a menace.
You could tell the Legion you had a knockdown drag-out bar room fight
over beer brands.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Dec 23 - 08:05 PM

It gets worse. Pat (my wife) went to the ER Saturday. Testing showed COVID, rhinovirus, and a couple other things. She asked to go. This is her third COVID case, she has residuals from the first two. She is taking I don’t know how many medicines right now. I’m trying to hold it all together until she’s at least a little better. She is, however, at home this time.

I told the Legion I got the eye fighting with a troll.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Dec 23 - 05:45 AM

Idaho attacked by unknown particles WOW

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Dec 23 - 09:49 AM

These high energy particles are evidenced in our visual spectrum.
I have felt invisible soundwaves of the deepest grand organ pipes on stage that one could feel in the lungs chest and tissues but in Maryland, I was exposed to an even deeper vibration that caused all my bones to vibrate in a manner unlike sound waves.
Horatio, there are stranger things...

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Dec 23 - 10:25 AM

Kyoto / Idaho - easily confused with each other.

(Great photo that makes absolutely no sense but it is from NASA.)

Subject: RE: DECLUTTER * Health/Home Ecologic-Innovation *2023
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Dec 23 - 12:23 PM

A carbon sink absorbs carbon back into the soil. There are ground rocks that can be spread over agricultural soil around the world that can accomplish this reabsorption.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Dec 23 - 08:18 PM

Why would I want a carbon sink? It’s hard enough to keep the one I have clean.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Dec 23 - 09:11 AM

There are several 'To Catch a Smuggler' shows. The detection seems to be done primarily by trained dogs and Xrays. Cartels might be interested in a workaround for those 2 challenges.

Unlike enzymatic formulas that work slowly and leave odors behind, Pooph dismantles odors on a molecular level to eliminate them at the source --turning any organic odor into clean fresh air. It's as if the odor was never there! And as powerful as it is Pooph is safe for people, pets, your home, and the planet.

That leaves X-ray detection unless a product is changed to be the same density and specific gravity as the medium it is inside. Instead of dense hard bricks, a foam version of the product could render it invisible.
They would have to trade more volume for the same old dense quantity
Shhh, don't tell the criminals.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Dec 23 - 08:28 PM

Make the shipping container out of the same material being smuggled. For instance, a suitcase made of diamond would have the same density at the diamonds being smuggled and therefore the smuggled diamonds would be undetectable on an x-ray.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Dec 23 - 09:06 PM

Mom! Please stay away from that awful Trump thread. You know what sort of stinker he is.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Dec 23 - 08:11 PM

It was terrible awful.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Dec 23 - 12:20 AM

I watched my favorite holiday special David Zeiger documentary feature 'Sir! No Sir!'
It might be described as a therapeutic film, since it seeks to cure some small part of America's amnesia regarding our veterans.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Dec 23 - 08:25 PM

I think I’ll channel Amos for a while.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Dec 23 - 10:41 AM

Amos says, “Can I have you for steak and follies the evening of Friday the 1st, or do you need to stay with
the Corps?”

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Dec 23 - 10:58 AM

Only if Spaw and son can attend too. A father and son reunion is only a poet away.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Dec 23 - 07:52 PM

Gluon's skills are needed. NASA can't open the container with asteroid pieces.

It's Been 2 Months. Why Can't NASA Open the Asteroid Sample Container?
The space agency is having to develop new tools to crack open the canister containing bits from asteroid Bennu.

Wouldn't you know it. The lid is stuck on the jar.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Dec 23 - 08:47 PM

Perhaps some things are better left unopened. Gluon could help but I haven't had that critter humping my leg for a coon's age.

Oops, I spoke too soon. The duckdog is baaaaack.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Dec 23 - 09:10 PM

sleepy time song

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Dec 23 - 07:59 PM

DAMMIT Gluon! Go hump someone else's leg right now. I've got to go get the mail...M-A-I-L, not M-A-L-E. NASA's get problems with that asteroid can. Maybe if you get inside you can open it from there?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter Might makes Right
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Dec 23 - 06:20 AM

Every man wants to be a MAGA, MAGA man
To have the kind of weapon always in demand
Joggin' in the mornings, go man go
Workouts in the militia, muscles grow
You can best believe me, he's a MAGA man
Glad he took you down with anyone you can
Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
MAGA MAGA man ( yeah)
I gotta be a MAGA man (I gotta be a MAGA man)
MAGA MAGA man (yeah)
I gotta be a MAGA (oowh)
MAGA MAGA man (yeah)
I gotta be a MAGA maN

Body (baby), it's so good, my body (heey)
You can tell a MAGA, he has a funky walk
His western shirts and leather, always look so boss
Funky with his body, he's a king
Call him Mister Ego, dig his chains
You can best believe that, he's a MAGA man
He likes to be the leader, he never dresses grand
Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
MAGA MAGA man ( yeah)
I gotta be a MAGA man (I gotta be a MAGA man)
MAGA MAGA man (yeah)
I gotta be a MAGA (oowh)
MAGA MAGA man (yeah)
I gotta be a MAGA maN

To live a life of freedom, machos make a stand
Have your own lifestyles and ideals
Possess the strength of confidence, that's the skill
You can best believe that he's a MAGA man
He's the special god son in anybody's land
Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
MAGA MAGA man (macho man, yeah)
I gotta be a MAGA man (I gotta be a)
MAGA MAGA man (mucho, mucho, macho man)
I've got to be a MAGA! (Dig the hair on my chest)
MAGA MAGA man (see my big thick mustache)
I gotta be a MAGA man (all right, I gotta be a)
MAGAS MAGA man (mucho, mucho, macho man)
I've got to be a MAGA! (Dig broad shoulders, yeah)
Macho, macho man (dig my muscles!)
I gotta be a MAGA man (talking about)
MAGA MAGA man (mucho, mucho, macho man)
I gotta be a MAGA (hey)
I gotta be a MAGA man
(I gotta be a mucho mucho, macho MAGA man)
(Alright, I said I'm a man, yeah!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Dec 23 - 08:50 PM

Amos once said to me, “ You certainly jumped some vortices there,”

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Dec 23 - 11:13 AM

Tornados in volcanos foreshadow feasts in Barbados
Nature's air fryer roasts birds with divine fires
but burnin human vermin with cumin tastes like tires

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Dec 23 - 05:03 PM

As I once and more said to Amos,


       Let Sporus tremble—"What? that thing of silk,
Sporus, that mere white curd of ass's milk?
Satire or sense, alas! can Sporus feel?
Who breaks a butterfly upon a wheel?"
Yet let me flap this bug with gilded wings,
This painted child of dirt that stinks and stings;
Whose buzz the witty and the fair annoys,
Yet wit ne'er tastes, and beauty ne'r enjoys,
So well-bred spaniels civilly delight
In mumbling of the game they dare not bite.
Eternal smiles his emptiness betray,
As shallow streams run dimpling all the way.
Whether in florid impotence he speaks,
And, as the prompter breathes, the puppet squeaks;
Or at the ear of Eve, familiar toad,
Half froth, half venom, spits himself abroad,
In puns, or politics, or tales, or lies,
Or spite, or smut, or rhymes, or blasphemies.
His wit all see-saw, between that and this ,
Now high, now low, now Master up, now Miss,
And he himself one vile antithesis.
Amphibious thing! that acting either part,
The trifling head, or the corrupted heart,
Fop at the toilet, flatt'rer at the board,
Now trips a lady, and now struts a lord.
Eve's tempter thus the rabbins have express'd,
A cherub's face, a reptile all the rest;
Beauty that shocks you, parts that none will trust,
Wit that can creep, and pride that licks the dust.

And which I now dedicate to a certain Don Juan in Florida.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Dec 23 - 06:58 PM

Thinking of Rapparee and his good wife Pat,
and hoping that both are recovering well from what ails each of them.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Dec 23 - 08:19 PM

He’s here, Mom. Hear the sides of the chimney collapsing?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Dec 23 - 03:52 PM

MMario dropped by on Christmas Eve. He said to say hello. So did Spaw.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Dec 23 - 08:55 PM

Anyone heard from John from Hull recently?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Dec 23 - 09:32 AM

John from Kansas settled a dispute on Friday.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jan 24 - 08:53 PM

Another year, another journey around the sun has been accomplished, Mom. Please simply keep your resolutions from 2005, okay?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Jan 24 - 08:07 AM

As the sun orbits our galaxy our journey is a spiral around the sun ad infinitum right down to the spiral of our DNA. Even black holes spiral space-time in what we call frame dragging.

Rap why so cryptic?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jan 24 - 10:09 AM

Happy Nude Year!!!!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jan 24 - 02:03 PM

The winter doldrums are here. Is MOM ready for the snow? Does she still have a sled or has she shifted to sliding on an inner tube or a plastic slide? That will cheer her up!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jan 24 - 07:55 PM

Last I saw she was sliding on an ice slide downhill toward ice covered "Bottomless Lake." Had a pretty smart speed going, too. I think she was going to attempt to jump the lake.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jan 24 - 08:09 PM

Mom's okay. I just got a call from the police station and she's resting quietly in her usual cell. Her usual lawyer has been called, and she's eaten her usual hearty breakfast. They expect that the usual bail will be set and she'll be out again in a day or so, as usual.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jan 24 - 07:06 PM

A Green Winter

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jan 24 - 09:02 PM

That's why we go to the Arctic. It's certainly not to fall down and hurt myself.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jan 24 - 06:42 AM

I just heard from gnu's nephew - G.O. is at the hospital in palliative/end-of-life care.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 15 Jan 24 - 08:35 AM

Thinking of gnu and his surviving family at this sensitive time.
Thanks for the news, Stilly.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jan 24 - 08:10 PM

Gnu is no longer on this side of The Great Divide. He was one of the good ones. Hope he, Amos, Kendall, MMario, Spaw and the rest are having a great time!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Jan 24 - 09:50 PM

As he once said to me, “                         you.”

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 24 - 01:42 PM

and the horse you rode in on.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jan 24 - 09:21 PM

What did my poor horse ever do to you?

Subject: RE: BS: Apple TV series - Foundation
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 08:40 PM

I'm not saying anyone forgot Holocaust Remembrance Day but on Saturday I watched the 9 1/2 hour European 'Shoa' documentary.
I learned more than from all other documentaries combined.
It was in German, Polish, Yiddish, and French with English subtitles.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Jan 24 - 08:45 PM

Mother, once again I find you associated with denizens of the lower depths, swilling cheap wine and acting like a ne’er do well. Your clothing is filthy, you hose downgyved, your purse empty of coin or bills, and I don’t know what you’ve done but there’s blood on your switchblade. Get in the cab, you’re going home. In the morning you’ll see the priest to be exorcised again.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Feb 24 - 07:14 PM

Once again, MOM and her Daughter
need to get up to the top of the queue.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Feb 24 - 05:44 PM

Monday the narrow surgeon is going to drill holes in my head to let the evil spirits out. I have ordered them to avoid their friends in DC, London, and suchlike places as there are enough evil spirits there.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Feb 24 - 07:08 AM

Good luck with your timpanation. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/demons-and-evil-spirits-from-idaho/id1477139871?i=1000543830448

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 08:57 AM

The Boston typewriter orchestra

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Feb 24 - 05:02 PM

The first hospital in the USA was founded by Ben Franklin.
The second largest commodity in the world is concrete.
The red team will win the Super Bowl without a doubt.

all stuff I didn't know when I woke this morning.

Subject: Its time to condemn Simon Says games.
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 09:18 AM

The 'average person' gets a bad rap.
At least I hope so. Most politicians are willing to say the average American is exceedingly stupid. Worse than that it is said stupid average people are in the majority.

IF true, those who can manipulate the average person must ensure that the average person stays stupid and never smarten up. There is plenty of evidence that the ignorance campaign is alive and well. Part of that campaign is to convince the rest of us that the average person is stupid. I believe that is a big fat lie.

Barricades to the smart average people are internet apps, cults, and weakest links to religion. Rewarding old hateful knowledge is also a strategy.

Its time to exclaim the wisdom of the average person.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 10:31 AM

So much depends on context. When headlines say "Florida man" did this or that (in the non-Trump meaning) it tends to say average or below average who you've never heard of.

If you want to do the math then in the spread, 25% would be below average, you could give the middle 26 to 50% as average, and the top IQ or some other functional measurement to the 76-100% of the group. Or you could do 33.3 for each group.

100% of the people who vote for the majority of the GOP slate of electors at least have a screw loose if they can't figure out that they're being taken to the cleaners by Trump's gang.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 11:30 AM

Hate is a far more potent emotion than love, Stilly: a red rage takes rather longer to wear off than a pink glow. That's why political attack ads work. If you can get the masses to hate someone else (eg foreigners) enough, you've got a zombie army at your command.

.... Just make sure that, when you're leading your zombie army, you don't trip over. Oh, and aim at the institutions of learning first, as critical thinking is Kryptonite to a berserker.*

* Apologies for crashing gears in mid-metaphor without using the clutch.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 02:19 PM

I was thinking more about the term "average" than I was the rest of the content in that post.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 06:00 PM

My scatter shot thoughts on the Kansas City shooting today are about the emotions of all those involved; from the politicians that allow/encourage mass shootings to the hateful shooter to all the victims wounded physically or not.

Some politicians don't care, some will feign a prayer.
The shooter had a moment of satisfaction probably stemming from bullying at some point.
The victims include 8 children with gunshot wounds. What they are feeling is beyond my comprehension.

This rips apart the spirit, destroys hope and kills safety in all celebrations.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Feb 24 - 06:11 PM

And it is a problem unique to the US, the number of gun shootings per capita.

MOM outta send Gluon out to retrieve all of those assault rifles and drop them into whatever volcano is newly churning out lava.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 08:14 AM

well oiled military weapons won't rust shut for hundreds of years.
The leading cause of childhood death isn't disease anymore.
There has never been an incident abhorrent enough to change a thing.

Sanity regarding guns will never be threatened by rational minds in America. Somehow crazy trumps common sense here.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Feb 24 - 07:36 PM

The Invention of Race NPR listen here

Race distinction is as artificial as the Caste system.
The ancient Greeks had no concept of race, only different cultures.
Race was invented by a Portuguese man in the 14th century...

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Feb 24 - 02:47 PM

With the sudden disappearance of my stalker, I found I was suffering from a version of the Stockholm effect. Perhaps he had found his true calling and became the author, editor, and publisher of 'Critic's Corner' where all critics of every genre were criticized.
It would have a companion book 'The Autocritocrisy of the World's Greatest Critic'.

While the book was full of glowing self-praise, 'Critics Corner' was a scathing digital profane diatribe of libelous insults. Perhaps the book propelled the online critics corner or simply the phenomenon of the most negative influencer caught on, but in no time there were more followers than on Truth Social.

This success was followed up with emails from MAGA internet threateners, Swatters, and apps from stalkers of young women influencers that have had threats via Venn diagram information of every person who was acquainted. Stalking and threatening turned out to be a huge industry.

Suddenly my exstalker was a small fish in a big sea. To be as important as he desired meant that he had to become a global villain and that did not have the appeal he had always wanted. Stopping hurt and torture had some withdrawal symptoms but soon he felt happier than before. He had time to enjoy life and lived happily ever after.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Feb 24 - 07:08 PM

The last thing J Allan Hynek showed me what he was working on was a compendium of different types of UFO shapes. There were over 30 types but the one type that has been recorded since his death that did not appear in his collection is the dynamic type that separated into many like images from three to many and form patterns or shapes.

Over the last 60 years there is a progressive change in the shape and navigation abilities. Some earlier types do not appear anymore.

Subject: RE: DECLUTTER *hoards *bad habits *toxic stuff - 2024
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Mar 24 - 01:20 PM

What is toxic is the manipulation and addiction society. We used to be a tool and skill society. Now apps on your phone, that you do not know is there; will measure your dopamine reward levels and lets you play against AI features for your attention. Its not a fair fight.

Suicide levels have doubled for adolescents exposed to social trashing techniques by other users whose playground has addictive app features.
Speaking of users, there are drug users and tech users but for other things we are customers, clients or patients.

Smart and secure people can use the internet rabbit hole to investigate many issues. The negative rabbit holes are tunnels of disinformation like Pizzagate and the holy Trump. Tools of persuasion normally move slowly Like Nazi laws that gradually criminalized a certain branch of society. Facebook and other techs can move faster.

I addressed addiction by limiting hypnosis sessions to three. More than that would be considered unnecessary but possibly helpful. Apps have no limits on there growth. AI will never solve the problem of fake news. The existential threat is as real and abusive to democracy as slavery. Laws against addictive tech is a rational eventual outcome. I hope. But I am the odd man out who does not use or carry a digital phone.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Mar 24 - 02:25 PM

Not sure where that last post was intended to go but it didn't fit the declutter thread so is parked over here where just about everything fits in somehow or other.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Mar 24 - 08:16 AM

Once again I'm towed to the impound lot. At least there is no fine.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Mar 24 - 04:59 PM

I miss Rapparee.
His last post here said he was to be treated by a narrow surgeon?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 24 - 05:30 AM

I thought he said Fresno Sturgeon.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 24 - 04:46 PM

It gives all the oil and gas that it can give
But the USA just takes it all for granted
We forgive you when you hurt us
For a while we think you love the US
But all you really do is use us, what can we do, Texas
It's so hard to be a Texan
Every man is after something
Is it wrong when we give in
If we like the Constitution is it a sin
Every Walmart shooting we regret it
But it happens 'cause we let it
Is it the only way to hold you
'Cause your strong desires control you
And I just don't want to lose you, what else can we do, Texas
It's so hard to be a Texan
There is so much hate at your border
Is it wrong to let folks in
If you steal kids is it a sin
It's so hard to be a Texan
You win with the most executions
Is it wrong when you give in

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Mar 24 - 06:23 PM

I miss gnu filling my Facebook account with posts he shared. Haven't seen Rap for a little while. Hmmm. Travelling?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 06:19 PM

Worry goes to your empathetic credit. If there was bad news, it would travel faster than good news.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 06:53 PM

Every heart has tasted bitter betrayal
We all know lies but the poor swim in them
Governments are famous for their lies
In troubled times truth is told silently
like the furtive solemn glances at a funeral.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Mar 24 - 09:39 PM

He hasn't posted on Mudcat since February 8.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 06:02 AM

As you might expect a skilled carpenter makes a superior orthopedic surgeon. The same is true of artists and astrophysicists. The reason is the skill of seeing in new imaginative ways with their mind's eye.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 09:09 AM

What a load of hooey. I was a skilled carpenter at one time, I doubt you would have wanted me to perform a hip arthroplasty on you.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 10:16 AM

gillymore, you just identified the reason for this thread. So settle in for the nonsense or find a different thread.

I texted with Rap a few days ago - he is dealing with a medical situation (again).

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 10:23 AM

Well, I'm not doing anything tomorrow, if anyone needs a hinky joint scoped, I'm your man.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 11:31 AM

Naturally, a well-trained orthopedist would benefit from well-honed carpentry skills which is not the nonsense Maggie implied.
My ultimate point is that our limited 5 senses can not image the quantum realm without a virtual imagination. Atoms are not spheres with orbiting particles like planetary mechanics. Atoms are more like vibrating energy fields that operate more like perpetual motion particle waves.

Imagination can unlock the concept that what we perceive as solid is actually empty space that also contains vibratory energy. Energy and mass are two aspects of the same thing just as space and time are a different aspect of a similar energy. It helps to have an artist's concept to imagine the reality of our quantum universe. The quality of the mind's eye and imagination is our best tool to know more of the universe and scientists speculate that we only know about 4% of reality. Math is our other best tool.

Even the art of music offers clues to the quantum world. It seems like a particle occupying the same space at the same time is a paradox but music allows for two or more frequencies in the same sound space without confusion. The wisdom of the music is that the relationship between the notes is most important in the effect it has.

It is said truth is beauty and beauty is truth. It is in our mind that beauty exists. If the universe has a consciousness it too may perceive beauty. If not, the universe is blind. I doubt that.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 11:48 AM

My musical relationship with gillmor is that of a tritone.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 11:55 AM

The skills required of an orthopedic surgeon are so far in advance of what even a master carpenter can do that what you're proposing is pure nonsense.
And SRS, you obviously know how to spell my handle correctly so please spare me the passive aggression.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 12:10 PM

Yeah, no.
You are not a victim. You are a discordant disharmony in err.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: gillymor
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 12:19 PM

I think we have a 3 part disharmony going this morning.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Mar 24 - 12:34 PM

The connection between art and science is particularly evident to me lately. Trial and error with experimentation separates imagination from truth. It is a slow but accelerating process.

There is such a chasm between intelligence and wisdom I would say institutional insanity has been the predominant human story so far.
Our nuclear weapon race is but one example.
US gun policy is a microcosm of the mass destruction industry.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Mar 24 - 11:42 AM

dyslexia is a different door to perception that can have savant aspects but fails at school regimes. It is also a gift with negative externalities. Imagination and dreams make for poor science but truly great leaps do come from imaginative unlikely places in rare circumstances. These leaps are not intuitive and are often not accepted for years.

IF YOU TRY TO GRAVITATIONALIZE THE QUANTUM WORLD, people would think you are nuts since no one has succeeded with quantum gravity. However, if you allow macro gravity to convert to an electrical potential of a pair of gluons in the quantum world we may have united some important theories. Just look at dust bunnies that coalesce by electric charge or asteroidal dust that combines.

All energies seem to have the ability to exist in another form whether it is mass and energy or a neutrino which can metamorphose into a different neutrino. This notion would simplify many energy relationships. But in the meantime since we can't even find evidence for supersymmetry this idea will be put on hold.

Everyone who looks at it agrees that quantum mechanics is incomplete.
Finding its form of gravity will not complete its nature. Science has been called the new religion. It is true that most of it can be as dull as church. A great breakthrough will probably have to bypass administration.

Such a breakthrough will probably demonstrate that converting space into time may exceed the energy that converts mass into energy.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 08:58 AM

Hi Mom! Yesterday they let me out of the hospital after 34 days in durance vile.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 05:56 PM

Quark! Quark! Quark!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 06:28 PM

Good to see you back. You'll have to whip this thread into shape - too many folks want to come here to argue.

And Gilly - Passive/aggressive my ass - just bad spelling.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 06:48 PM

Rapparee, what was that earlier post about getting holes drilled in your head? Was that BS or not?
Good to see you back, your silence had me worried.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 24 - 07:02 PM

From what he told me it wasn't hyperbole. Sounds uncomfortable!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 07:52 AM

It's great the pressure is off and you're home again.
Kate Middleton has had a rough time of it as well.
That's not to say you are not one tough cookie, a jaw-breaker, and a survivor extraordinaire. Mom would be jealous.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 03:44 PM

Surgery for chronic subdural hematoma. Four burr holes drilled. Drainage that messed up the tidy operating room. 3.5 weeks rehab, still going on but at home.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 05:00 PM

The main thing is, you're home, Rapparee. You are a survivor.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Mar 24 - 08:12 PM

Trephination refers to the process of creating a hole in the skull and, in specific cases, the nail and is one of the oldest surgical procedures documented to date. It has been used throughout history with the goal of relieving pressure; managing symptoms of head trauma, such as subdural and epidural hematomas; and accessing brain tumors. Trephination can be performed using a trephine, a drill, by scraping with an abrasive instrument, or for the hard headed, cutting with a jackhammer. Rare complications that may arise with trephination include infection and, if the dura matter surrounding the brain is damaged in the process, damage to the underlying blood vessels, meninges, and brain. Modern medicine has used trephination as part of treatments for frontal sinus disease, glaucoma, and subungual hematomas.

Newagers believe that Akashic memories and signals from the universe are enhanced with trephination.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Mar 24 - 11:39 AM

Knowing Rap, I suspect he required his surgeon to use one of the fine steel weapons he has in his collection at home.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Mar 24 - 08:40 PM

I keep getting signals from the universe, they're incoherent.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 24 - 12:14 PM

My favorite mashup movie is on, The Day After Strangelove On the Beach.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 24 - 07:03 PM

The new physics we need to be open-source is actually almost a hundred years old. Much of that tech was explored by Thomas Thompson Brown Who died in 1985. Electrogravitics was one of his inventions that used high voltage low current science. The last 20% of this video explains his contributions. An explanation how UFO's work.

Sorry but classified info is often approached obliquely.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Mar 24 - 09:06 AM

Only two tidbits of innovative cosmology have become apparent to me this decade. 1 is that the inflation theory is far from what we are led to believe leading to a much older universe than we deduced from background microwave radiation.
2 is that black holes are space-time generators.

There is a meme that says if you don't contribute a major discovery by 30 you never will. The problem is too many people believe that is true.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Mar 24 - 01:09 PM

I did, over a cuppa with Steve Hawking at Kings one afternoon. We came up with the whole lack hole thing. I did the thinking and he did the math.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 06:03 AM

I cannot say that I know you well
But you can't lie to me with all these books that you sell
I'm not trying to follow you to the end of the world
I'm just trying to leave something behind
Words have come from men and mouse
Oh, but I can't help thinking that I have heard the wrong crowd
When all the water is gone my job will be too
So I'm trying to leave something behind
Oh, money is free but love costs more than our bread
And the ceiling is hard to reach
Oh, the future ahead is broken and red
And I'm trying to leave something behind
This whole world is a foreign land
We swallow the moon, but we do not know our own hand
Oh, we're running with the case, but we ain't got the gold
Yet we're trying to leave something behind
My friends, I belive we are at the wrong fight
And I can not read what I did not write
I've been to his house, but the master is gone
Yet we're trying to leave something behind
Now there is a beast who has taken my brain
You can put me to bed, but you can't feel my pain
When the machine has taken the soul from the man
It's time to leave something behind
Oh, money is free but love costs more than our bread
And the ceiling is hard to reach
Oh, the future ahead is already dead
And it's time to leave something behind
Now, I've got this feeling that I'm still at the shore
And pockets don't know what it means to be poor
I can get through the wall if you give me a door
So I can leave something behind
Oh, wisdom is lost in the trees somewhere
Oh, you're not gonna find it in some mental gray hair
It's locked up from those who hurry ahead
And it's time to leave something behind
Oh, money is free but love costs more than our bread
And the ceiling is hard to reach
When my son is a man, he will know what I meant
When I was just trying to leave something behind
And I'm trying to leave something behind
Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: Sean Rowe

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 07:38 AM

> I keep getting signals from the universe, they're incoherent.

Are you a radioastronomer, Rap? it's the only field I've been in where noise is the signal, and coherent signals are the noise.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 10:45 AM

Rap, has Gluon been by to see you lately?

QUARK!!!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Mar 24 - 06:38 PM

Yes, but didn’t stay long. Barely long enough to hump my leg eight or ten times.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Mar 24 - 02:37 PM

Well, the city golf course workers starting to clean up after the heavy snow three weeks or so back.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Mar 24 - 07:32 AM

The world's burnin at both ends
but we're waking up slowly
News is a game of pretend
and the best liars are holy

Change has always been this way
but were waking up slowly
Morning feels like a new day
The same old thing is phony

When you're waking up slowly
think of one thing you can change
and then just go out boldly
and do it even if its strange

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Apr 24 - 06:44 PM

I awakened from a nap and picked up a book — and there was a reference to Eleanor of Aquitaine. This triggered another memory and I quietly sang all of “Quen Eleanor’s Confession.” Odd. I can remember lyrics I learned fifty years back, but not things that happened three weeks ago.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 03 Apr 24 - 06:39 AM

> I can remember lyrics I learned fifty years back, but not
> things that happened three weeks ago.

The wax of the tablet of memory gets hardened with age. Once you've seen it all, nothing new makes much of an impression.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Apr 24 - 03:57 PM

The wax of my memory was scraped and melted for a couple of months. Right now, a drain will be installed next Tuesday and then plugged to stop the continued leak of cerebral-spinal fluid. The leak is considerably slowed but not yet stopped.   My life seems to be one medical thing after another right now.

Gluon dropped by and tried to console me with a fresh tokamak.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Apr 24 - 10:50 AM

Thinking of you, Rapparee.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Apr 24 - 04:40 PM

I went with a friend for a nice long ride this morning. Lots of snow up in them thar hills 'round hyar.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Apr 24 - 07:27 PM

I seem to remember, Rapparee, that you live in
what you called the "banana belt" of Idaho.
So, along with the snow,
I hope there are soon flowers to enjoy, like crocuses.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 04:14 PM

Anything interesting happening out on the golf course? Have you set up a golf ball vending machine at your back fence?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 07:08 PM

With my vintage mixer I am making natural casing pastrami dogs.
Its 4 parts minced pastrami and one part Nathan's hot dog.

Today was nice with iconic puffy clouds so we went for a long walk down to Turtle Pond but it felt like it was uphill both ways.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 24 - 01:11 PM

Goodness me!   Mom, why are ou hanging out with the old folks? And shake those cigar ashes off your shawl!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Apr 24 - 09:23 PM

Today was National Librarian Day.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Apr 24 - 02:28 PM

Everyday is, it’s not just celebrated. WE RULE!!!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Apr 24 - 08:24 PM

Librarians are the secret masters of the Universe. DON'T ever piss one off.

                                 Spider Robinson

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Apr 24 - 09:11 PM

Since the ophthalmologist I've been seeing for 20 years has retired, I had an appointment today with another one (who worked with the first and has his records). HOWEVER, he is in a practice of ophthamology only -- he can't prescribe glasses. Sooo...I have an appointment with another person who can (who also worked with my original eye doctor) at the end of May, unless there's a cancellation and they can work me in. Fortunately, the optician is still the same in the same place so getting new specs isn't a problem (save for the cost).

This is the first time in my life I've run into this situation.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Apr 24 - 02:49 PM

Mom! Am I the only one who now cares?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Apr 24 - 03:51 PM

No, you aren't.
I was away for three days.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Apr 24 - 06:11 AM

It ain't the sixties but there are still some young people who care and believe they can change the world. After our leaders like JFK, RFK and MLK were assassinated, today there are leaderless collectives of dissent. However, there has been enough disinterest and old-time religion to turn the clock back on women 200 years. There are more guns than peace signs and more fascists than progressives in the House. There are more mass shootings than Taylor Swift songs, and more extinctions than politicians.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Apr 24 - 06:59 PM

Like MOM, like daughter:
sinking to the bottom of the queue.
Let's head back up to the top.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Apr 24 - 10:49 AM

Glucosamine Chondroitin worked on my stuck shoulder.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Apr 24 - 11:48 AM

Discontinue use if it causes death.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Apr 24 - 05:41 PM

So far today I have spent better that five (5) hours installing a new Netgear Nighthawk MESH network system here in the house. The sprinkler people come out, replaced the bent pipe comprising the top rail of the back fence, dug out and replaced TWO breaks in the main sprinkler line in the back yard, and replaced a busted sprinkler head.

I had planned to do other things today that mess with routers, satellites, IP addresses, and suchlike nonsense. Of course, neither had I planned to do what the sprinkler guys did. I had hoped to read and nap.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Apr 24 - 12:52 PM

The network is working fine. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. That's why I'm down here again working on it.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Apr 24 - 02:11 PM

Rap, having to set up or restore the home system is the price we pay for not letting the IP company send a tech out who fiddles with stuff and leaves you with whatever their default setting is, and not giving you much information. I've helped several friends with the systems the cable or phone company left behind, usually with setting up a booster or extra ports for the router.

If I ever get the house leveled (right now it is at its most level time of the year, the soil is moist and the cracks have almost disappeared in the walls and at the ceiling edge) I'll put in a sprinkler system. That I will diagram and supervise because too often those sprinkler guys just wing it. (Neighbors up the street paid for a high dollar system only to find later that they put in a cheap set of buried hoses and such, workmen long gone along with their cash).

MOM should have Gluon train to help with this stuff, I bet a duckdog would be great at digging and working out the water end of things.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Apr 24 - 09:07 PM

We have a good sprinkler system and good sprinkler techs. We do NOT have good weather or control over tiny earthquakes which barely move a seismograph needle. Or rodents that live underground and gnaw on plastic sprinkler pipes and whom I shall feed a poison dinner as soon as I am able.

Yes, I shall be certain that what I use is well underground and that the corpses are not when they might be eaten by the various hawks, owls, eagles, and other critters who frequent the golf course behind the house. Oddly enough, the cops take a dim view of shooting in the city limits, even with an air rifle (BB gun).

I'd trap them, but releasing them out in the national forest is nearly certain death for them anyway. I've checked before and our animal control bunch doesn't deal with moles, voles, skunks, feral cats, and certain others.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Apr 24 - 10:10 PM

Trouble with that "poison dinner" is that the next hawk that eats one of those critters will also die of the poison. Don't you have any other options? Lead poisoning is probably preferable to the other poisons.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Apr 24 - 06:08 AM

Good news for Putin. Journalists from Reuters, AP, and even Forbes have been arrested.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Apr 24 - 06:24 AM

Their crime is fake news about the Russian Army.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Apr 24 - 07:55 PM

Stilly, I agree about lead poisoning. The cops and the city, however, frown on it. Otherwise I'd just use a .22 or an air rifle.

But...I have a friend who is a legal trapper and supports his family partially by the pelts he sells and the money he makes trapping for various ranchers. He's very ethical and may have another suggestion. I'll ask him.

I could be persuaded to do nothing, except that the tunnels run downhill from my lawn to the golf course and I don't want my backyard to develop a bad case of erosion.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Apr 24 - 09:24 PM

Today the neurosurgeon told me not to come back until I need him again. He approved the way I walk and use a stick to help with balance when needed.

Subject: RE: MOAB science trivia (of all BS)
From: Donuel
Date: 01 May 24 - 11:16 PM

Tantalum, Boron and a touch of Iridium make an alloy that has solid solutions, a nonoxidizing subsurface and high conductivity that makes a good hard but flexible skin for UFOs. (EYES ONLY)

Gold is only formed in the largest massive supernovas or colliding neutron stars but silver is produced in any ol' run-of-the-mill nova.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 02 May 24 - 05:28 PM

The firemen and police left a half hour ago. It all started by leaving the car interior lights on. I accidentally hit the switch when I opened the sunroof days ago. I have seen episodes of airplane disasters when the pilot hit the wrong switch. I didn't expect I would do the same.

This morning the door opened but it would not start, dead battery.
I could call AAA and get a jump but I thought if I waited when it was 90 degrees it might start this afternoon. So when I went out an hour ago the door would not even open. Aha a tow truck driver taught me how to unlock the door if disabled due to an attempted break-in or dead battery. There is a secret key slot at the rear of the car that opens the trunk and from there a hidden cable that can be pulled to open the door.

It all worked so now I could unlatch the hood. I was feeling pretty smart when I sat down. Muscle memory was closing the door when my brain said don't do that. Click. I was now locked in a small 90 degree car with no horn or phone. The windows were sealed but by lying down and kicking it I could jam a pair of scissors and umbrella in the crack to get an inch of air by bending the window outward. I was winded and hot from the kicking so I took of my shirt. Eventually my neighbor was unloading her kids when she heard my yell for help. She called the fire dept and I gave my info through the small window opening.

I heard the sirens when the first lady cop arrived. I explained how to find the secret cable to unlock the door while she held a window breaker. It worked and I explained to the firemen how she had opened the door and thanked them all. She wanted to know how I knew about the secret cable and I explained about the tow truck driver. I thanked the neighbor and went in the house. My wife was none the wiser wearing her noise cancelling headphones and in a meeting about ribosomic DNA.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 05 May 24 - 05:23 AM

ignisecond, n:
        The overlapping moment of time when the hand is locking the car
        door even as the brain is saying, "my keys are in there!"
                -- Rich Hall, "Sniglets"

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 05 May 24 - 06:14 PM

Katagelasticism is a psychological condition in which a person excessively enjoys mocking others. Katagelasticists actively seek and establish situations in which they can laugh at others (at the expense of these people). There is a broad variety of things that katagelasticists would do—starting from harmless pranks or word plays to truly embarrassing and even harmful, mean-spirited jokes. They would be of the opinion that mocking others is part of the daily life and if others do not like being laughed at, they should just fight back. For katagelasticists, it is fun mocking others and there is almost nothing that might hinder them from doing so. For them, some people might even provoke getting mocked. This condition often makes it difficult for sufferers behave on social media.

however some deserve mockery

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 05 May 24 - 07:58 PM

Donald Trump ordered his chief of staff to Condemn the recently arrested journalists and politicians.
At the prison he gave each prisoner a Condom.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 May 24 - 08:25 PM

Little Jack Horner
Sits in a corner
Extracting cube roots to infinity,
An assignment for boys
The will minimize noise
And produce a more peaceful vicinity.

Automation
Is vexation,
Quaternions are bad;
Analysis Situs
Is only detritus,
I wonder: Have I been had?

Little Bo-Peep
Has lost her sheep,
The radar has failed to find them.
They'll all, face to face,
Meet in parallel space,
Preceding their leaders behind them.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 06 May 24 - 06:13 AM

1. AQUADEXTROUS (ak wa deks'trus)adj. Possessing the ability to turn the bathtub faucet on and off with your toes.

2. CARPETUATION (kar pet' u a shun)n. The act, when vacuuming, of running over a string or a piece of lint at least a dozen times, reaching over and picking it up, examining it, then putting it back down to give the vacuum one more chance.

3. DISCONFECT (dis kon fekt') v. To sterilize the piece of candy you dropped on the floor by blowing on it, assuming this will somehow 'remove' all the germs.

4. ELBONICS (el bon'iks) n. The actions of two people maneuvering for one armrest in a movie theater.

5. UNDUST (un dust')n. The small line of debris that refuses to be swept onto the dust pan and keeps backing a person across the room until he finally decides to give up and sweep it under the rug.

6. LACTOMANGULATION (lak' to man gyu lay' shun)n. The act of manhandling the "open here" spout on a milk container so badly that one has to resort to the 'illegal' side.

7. PEPPIER (peph ee ay')n. The waiter at a fancy restaurant whose sole purpose seems to be walking around asking diners if they want ground pepper.

8. PHONESIA (fo nee' zhuh)n. The affliction of dialing a phone number and forgetting whom you were calling just as they answer.

9. LATTEBLOW (la tay' blow)v. Unintentional expusion of milk through the nose during a laugh.

10. TELECRASTINATION (tel e kras tin ay' shun)n. The act of always letting the phone ring at least twice before you pick it up, even when you're only six inches away.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 May 24 - 08:51 PM

And for something entirely different....

Go mbí do chaid amuigh agat.

Go gcuire sé sconna siar sí ort, agus scread maidne ort.

Nár fhaighir slí i geaiseal.

Now go practice your Irish curses!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 06 May 24 - 10:27 PM

Yiddish curses are a mouthful too.

Subject: RE: BS: Joke thread for 2024
From: Donuel
Date: 06 May 24 - 10:32 PM

A black hole is where God divides by zero

The gene pool could use a little chlorine."

"Forget about World Peace.....Visualize Using Your Turn Signal!"

"Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."

"I love cats...they taste just like chicken."

"Out of my mind. Back in five minutes."

"Cover me. I'm changing lanes."

"As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools."

"Laugh alone and the world thinks you're an idiot."

"Sometimes I wake up grumpy; other times I let him sleep."

"I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather...Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car...."

"I didn't fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian."

"Don't blame me - I'm from Uranus."

"Your kid may be an honor student but YOU'RE still an IDIOT!"

"It's as BAD as you think, and they ARE out to get you."

"When you do a good deed, get a receipt, in case heaven is like the IRS."

"Smile - it's the second best thing you can do with your lips."

"Friends don't let friends drive Naked."

"Wink, I'll do the rest!"

"I took an IQ test and the results were negative."

"When there's a will, I want to be in it!"

"Okay, who stopped the payment on my reality check?"

"If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat?"

"Time is the best teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its students!"

"It's lonely at the top, but you eat better."

"Warning: Dates in calendar are closer than they appear."

"Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes."

"Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."

"Consciousness: that annoying time between naps."

"I souport publik edekasion."

"We are Microsoft. Resistance Is Futile. You Will Be Assimilated."

"Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home."

"3 kinds of people: those who can count and those who can't."

"Why is 'abbreviation' such a long word?"

"Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?"

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... till you can find a rock."

"2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2."

"I like you, but I wouldn't want to see you working with sub-atomic particles."

"I killed a 6-pack just to watch it die."





On Criticism...
Before you criticize people, you should walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, when you criticize them...
you are a mile away from them...
and you have their shoes.





Some Time-Honored Truths...
1. Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

2. One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

3. One nice thing about egotists: They don't talk about other people.

4. To be intoxicated is to feel sophisticated but not be able to say it.

5. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

6. The older you get, the better you realize you were.

7. I doubt, therefore I might be.

8. Age is a very high price to pay for maturity.

9. Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday.

10. Women like silent men, they think they're listening.

11. Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it.

12. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.

13. A fool and his money are soon partying.

14. Do pediatricians play miniature golf on Wednesdays?

15. Before they invented drawing boards, what did they go back to?

16. Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery.

17. If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?

18. If God dropped acid, would he see people?

19. If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown too?

20. If the #2 pencil is the most popular, why is it still #2?

21. If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it?

22. If you're born again, do you have two bellybuttons?

23. If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry?

24. If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 May 24 - 12:20 AM

6. LACTOMANGULATION (lak' to man gyu lay' shun)n. The act of manhandling the "open here" spout on a milk container so badly that one has to resort to the 'illegal' side.

The easier definition of this is when the child you nurse at home is riding in a tummy pack in the grocery store and they're trying to break through your shirt and bra to nurse while in a grocery store. (Throw a small blanket over the shoulder and head of the child and let them have access and no one in the store is the wiser.)

Donuel, stick to MOAB for a while, let the joke thread alone. I love you and your whimsy but your darker side is not helping that other thread.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 07 May 24 - 11:24 AM

My fault, Stilly, for sneaking in the relevant Sniglet in response to Donuel's description of an ignisecond. I abase myself in dust and ashes.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 May 24 - 09:12 AM

Up to the top of the queue now.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 May 24 - 10:51 AM

Happy Mothers Day MOM!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 May 24 - 08:48 PM

What Stilly said, Mom.

And Mom? I went out target shooting yesterday (.22 at 50 feet) and hit the 9 or 10 ring 22 times out of 23 standing. Pretty good for someone who hasn't touched a firearm for 9+ months. Then I went home. That was all I wanted to do, so see how the surgeon messing with my brain might have affected some of my fine motor function. And today I WENT OUT DRIVING!! Not alone, but I did the driving and didn't hit anybody or anything!

Then I came home and did the laundry and cooked supper.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 May 24 - 10:13 AM

Mom, in a few minutes I a-leavin' the house to jin up with the fellers down at the Elks' Lodge fer some sixty-rod coffee. Gonna buy some dough nuts on the way so's them fellers git somethin decent to eat fer a change. Usually they jist survive on bacon and beans, which make fer a certin coffee atmosfear to fear. And I'll be drivin in the morning rush hour ALONE AND ALL BY MYSELF.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 May 24 - 07:22 PM

top of the queue, again.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 May 24 - 11:44 AM

I spared myself about three hours of torture yesterday by NOT driving to Dallas. The party was for a friend who spent five days at my house earlier in the week so it wasn't like we hadn't had a chance to visit already. I'll drive west from here happily, but east, nope. Just nope. (Amon Carter had a rivalry going with Dallas and always packed his lunch when he went there so he didn't even need to spend money eating out. I have more-or-less adopted that policy and just don't go there. Every single time I seem to end up following an impaired driver on a high-speed interstate highway under construction.)

MOM, it's time to set up Gluon's taxi service. I bet she could have whisked me to that party in a nanosecond.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 May 24 - 08:16 PM

Gluon can do lots and lots more than she does. You have heard that the James Watt telescope has taken a picture of two black holes "colliding?" Gluon brought them together and now they're actually getting married, not just casually "encountering" each other!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 May 24 - 07:13 PM

Glad to hear that Rapparee can now drive on his own.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 May 24 - 06:11 PM

Up to the top of the queue.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 31 May 24 - 11:39 AM

Another boost to the top.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 May 24 - 10:05 PM

My 90-year-old recent house guest is waiting for her new pair of glasses to arrive in the mail, so she can go renew her driver's license. Until they arrive she's only driving to the gym or the store. [slaps forehead] The new glasses aren't that different from the old, so why the hesitancy to get the license is a puzzle. Maybe they do the vision test each time now after 80?

Good luck with the drive, Rap! (Have you done any driving out back beyond the house, with a golf club and some of the balls that have come across the fence?)

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Jun 24 - 09:39 PM

Rap, is this a friend of yours? Over at your house for a visit and decided to slip in few holes of golf before lunch?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 24 - 01:54 PM

Yes, that's Mitzi von Moose. She was trying to lure "Mangy" Moose (from South Of Town) into a lodging with her (a Moose Lodge but some Eagles and Elks put her daddy (Mighty Moose) wise and he put the shazaam on her plans. If you buy some milk you might see her picture on the carton if you buy Moose Milk.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 24 - 08:22 PM

If you didn't know, being stung by a yellowjacket hurt, and hurts, and hurts. At least I don't have an allergy!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jun 24 - 03:03 PM

Now it’s supraventicular tachycardia. I’ll be contacted about an appointment with the electrocardiologist. I told Pat that it’s she who makes my heart beat fast, but she said something about getting the appointment.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Jun 24 - 03:33 PM

I expect Donuel back any time now. He seems to have taken a vacation from Mudcat (well, after the block was lifted a couple of weeks ago he can have come back.)

When he does return, he needs to spend more time in MOAB and the family threads.

Just a thought.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Jun 24 - 11:50 AM

Rap, your doctors all must have an up-to-date edition of the PDR; you're probably keeping them busy comparing side effects and avoiding harmful interactions. I posted a meme on FB a while back about a little pill box becoming part of the older adult's routine. I suspect you have at least one by now. Stay safe!

We've had so much rain in Texas this year we've almost reached last year's total half-way through this year. 27.5" as of two days ago (it rained again last night) and last year we got 29.3". No wonder there are weird mushrooms popping up all over the place. Now where was this rain supposed to end up? We need to have Gluon give the jet stream a shove and move it over some.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 24 - 11:43 AM

Gluon will do most anything for a Higgs Boson Biscuit. I bribed with one to move the weather south, meaning Utah, and Gluon got overexcited.

Now I get to visit and electrocardiologist AND VA psychiatrist (to determine if I’m as nuts as people think, I guess).

Next Monday we’re off to see Dylan — sorry, Dillon. The town In Montana, not the Bob or the Thomas. This four day trip is my practice trip for two weeks in July when my youngest nephew, the Wisconsin Rabbit Ranger, gets married in Champagne — er, Champaign (the town in Illinois, not the drink).

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 24 - 08:22 PM

So far today we've had hail, heavy rain, and the occasional snowflake amidst the hail. The weather forecast earlier today said "No precipitation for the next 10 days.

Ah, off to Montana tomorrow! Yeeha! Gonna ride that Honda!

(Did anyone else note that a bull got loose at the rodeo in Sisters, Oregon and sent two people to the hospital? Or that the Teton Pass highway in Wyoming collapsed today?)

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Jun 24 - 09:48 PM

I did see the bit about the Tetons. I also read that and 83-year-old woman was gored in Yellowstone. You'd think with age comes wisdom, but apparently not.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Jun 24 - 02:22 PM

Wonder if Rapparee is back from Montana?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Jun 24 - 09:28 PM

Yes’m, I’m back. We went out and saw some new scenery. Bad traffic on I-15 due to the holiday being today, and the usual construction.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jun 24 - 09:12 PM

Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I have little if anything on my schedule! And the high is supposed to be 56° F. here for a HIGH! There is a frost advisory out for tomorrow night! Geez, it's nearly JULY!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Jun 24 - 08:45 PM

A Short Break in the Woods While it Snows

I think I know who owns these woods.
He lives in town.
He would not like it for me to pause here
To watch the snow fall.

My horse knows it is odd
To stop here on a whim.
He would like to get home.

Hey! These woods go far!
There is not a soul here but me!
And the light is dim, at best!

I have said that I will do things.
It will take me some time to get there.
Good grief! I still have a long way to go.
I should move on.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Jun 24 - 09:59 AM

Rapparee, is your part of Idaho
influenced by the current heat wave?
The latter has made it to Massachusetts today.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Jun 24 - 08:43 PM

It was a high of 64 here today. HOWEVER! Starting Saturday we're in for 90s for at least a week. We like to send our heat to those in the East who never experience it.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Jun 24 - 11:18 AM

Heavens, I don’t know how much longer I can stand this heat! It’s already 75°F with a blue sky and light clouds! And people towing trailers zoom along with the safety chains dangling, causing sparks that start fires along the interstates.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Jun 24 - 05:34 PM

In the Northeast we had low 80's with light clouds.
No thunderstorms for a change;
those thunderstorms brought high winds
that brought down tree limbs and whole trees.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Jun 24 - 08:29 PM

Gosh whiz, we're under a THUNDERSTORM WATCH for about 2 1/2 more hours! And a high wind advisory until tomorrow evening, so I couldn't take my sailboat out on the reservoir if I had a sailboat! It's about 80 degrees F. outside! I don't know if I can take all this much longer!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Jun 24 - 07:46 PM

Rapparee, I hope you have a comfortable Fourth of July, however you wish to observe it.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Jun 24 - 02:08 PM

Hiding in the basement, as I usually spend the glorious 4th.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Jul 24 - 11:22 AM

200!!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Jul 24 - 07:53 PM

Spend 25 minutes....

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Jul 24 - 03:58 PM

Glad you made it through another Fourth, Rapparee.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Jul 24 - 04:39 PM

We had wonderful thunderstorms today - too bad they didn't arrive around dusk yesterday, it might have dampened some of the ardour for setting off explosive devices for many hours.

How was it down at the Legion Hovel? Anyone shot or arrested?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Jul 24 - 08:43 PM

One of the Legion-Wannabees got into a gunfight with a Ranger at Yellowstone. The Ranger will recover from his wounds, the Wannabee won't. Since he was never a member of the Legion he won't be remembered even after the NPS releases his name. The Ranger, on the other hand, is being toasted even as I type this.

Apparently some ne're-do-wells in Pocatello got reckless with fireworks yesterday and started a brush fire DOWNHILL from a bunch of houses. The FD evacuated several of the homes and folks couldn't return for some hours. The FD also was very, very grateful to the goddess of the wind for not doing her usual thing and blowing her wind uphill, as that could have wiped out a whole neighborhood not too far from where we live. That would have also taken out Big Lots, Ridley's Supermarket, and AAA Office -- not to mention sparks and cinders blowing across and setting fire the the local Fire Station. If captured the FD will offer at least one of the reckless ones to the wind goddess as a suitable sacrifice.
See?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: leeneia
Date: 07 Jul 24 - 12:36 AM

Fireworks are not for amateurs, that's for sure.

Four of us did something new on the 4th - parked on the rooftop of a hospital parking garage and watched fireworks from all over the city - some amateur, some pro, some quite near and some a few miles away.

There were about 50 people there. It was fun to watch the reflections of the nearby fireworks in the hospital windows. Even modern glass had waves or imperfections in it that made a sea change in the display.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Jul 24 - 09:20 PM

Rapparee, it's a good thing that
the wind goddess and the fire goddess
didn't get together for that incident.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jul 24 - 10:37 AM

Pele's a friend of mine. Boy oh boy, was she one hot chick!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jul 24 - 08:41 AM

Chongo says: "You ain't got the guts to take on Pele."

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Jul 24 - 03:25 PM

Up to the top of the queue.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Jul 24 - 03:59 PM

Chongx wouldn’t know “hot”if she/he/it fell into a pool of Pele’s lava.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Jul 24 - 02:58 PM

A boost of hot air to lift to the top of the queue.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Jul 24 - 06:25 PM

The wedding is over and I’m visiting my brother.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Jul 24 - 11:15 PM

Hmmm. I missed a bit about a wedding.

I imagine if Chongo were there the reception tent would be in tatters by now and gunshots would ring out.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jul 24 - 04:09 PM

Well, that would depend on whether Rapparee showed up. He and Chongo have unfinished business.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Jul 24 - 10:12 AM

Oh, I was there. There were gallups, scottishes, waltzes, minuets — the usual. No reels, horn pipes, or other vulgar displays. Almost everyone kept most of their clothing on and arranged, and there was no knifings or shooting. Oh, a couple of the young bloods drew out on the veranda but that was quickly squelched and their rapiers broken. All in all, a nice affair with no chimp-howler monkey hybrids present.

The groom is, after all, a game warden in Wisconsin.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jul 24 - 08:44 PM

Tomorrow, the reunion of my maternal side of the family.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Jul 24 - 09:59 AM

Brunch and dinner today, then to St. Louie and fly back. The reunion was fun, saw relatives I hadn’t seen in years. Gluon showed up, of course, and tried to hump Ziggy (a pug) who objected vociferously.   No fights, no real excitement like in the past. The only cops who showed up were retired family members.

Ah well. Ou sont les neiges d’antan?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Jul 24 - 10:00 AM

Hope you are safely back Home, Rapparee.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Jul 24 - 06:52 PM

I’m back home and plodding again through medical appointments. The last of the trip laundry is done.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Jul 24 - 11:19 PM

MOM's working - the original thread (for now, anyway) - BS: The Mother of all BS threads.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Aug 24 - 02:20 PM

Well, that was quick --
the Mother of all BS Threads is closed for repairs now.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Aug 24 - 05:59 PM

Ah well! It was nice to see Mom again, even briefly.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Aug 24 - 08:30 PM

It was! But I think that what happens is that trolls or whoever does DNS stuff open it several times in a row and that ties up the Mudcat bandwidth. If you go to your own posts and look for those that went to the MOAB you can see it piecemeal. There are ways. . . I suggested to Max that he probably needed to pull the plug if we want to use the rest of the site.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Aug 24 - 12:15 PM

Goddard to to top!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 04 Aug 24 - 06:01 PM

Humble suggestion: Is it possible to arrange for the Old Thread to be viewed one page at a time, eg by using the link-to-first-page links on the index page, while keeping the full thread closed? I'm fully aware I'm flouting my own "don't say JUST" rule here, as there'll doubtless be some severe magic underneath each such link which needs no further complication.

.... Or did I suggest that before?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Aug 24 - 06:33 PM

You can see parts of it but it involves searching on individuals who posted to it and then looking at their posts and going from there.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Aug 24 - 08:11 PM

You can search for me, for Amos, for any number of people Bee-dubya-ell is a good one, as is MMario. I'll post more of our brethren as I think of them.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Aug 24 - 11:56 PM

And some of those folks are in the Annex before the last crash also.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 07 Aug 24 - 08:16 AM

up to the top of the queue.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Aug 24 - 03:22 PM

MOM! You will never guess what I get to do this evening! For example, right now I'm dictating this! Directly dictating this!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Aug 24 - 05:00 PM

Okay, what sounds weirder as a Native American tribal name...the Kickapoos or the Passamaquoddy? And then there are the Penobscots, who do not hail from Scotland.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Aug 24 - 08:56 PM

How about the Salish, the Tlingit, the Potawatomi, the Shoshone, the Abseroka? "Yes, I'd like the Abseroka, medium rare, with the Tlingit Salish, and I'll have the huckleberry Shoshone for dessert."

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Aug 24 - 02:46 PM

In New England it would include Wampanoag.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Aug 24 - 11:30 AM

I think the Potawatomi win the prize!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Aug 24 - 08:06 PM

Not the Nimiipuu? Or the Haudenosaunee? Or the Absaalooke (little though they are)?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Aug 24 - 11:43 PM

Skykomish, Swinomish, Snohomish, Wahkiakum, Skagit, Yakima, Kittitas, Skamania, Walla Walla - and those are the anglicised versions of the names. The Pacific Northwest has some great names. You want a good password? Try Whatcom or Nooksack. Add a couple of symbols for letters and you're set. No codebreaker will ever defeat it.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Aug 24 - 02:49 PM

Bumping her back upstairs for now.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Aug 24 - 06:21 PM

MOM!!! You git back up where you belong! Enough of this gutter sniping, young lady!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Aug 24 - 05:06 PM

MOM!!! You git back up where you belong! Enough of this gutter sniping, young lady! I mean it!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Aug 24 - 07:02 PM

Ahem. This is her Daughter, as opposed to MOAB herself.
The latter seems to be in permanent crash mode.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 25 Aug 24 - 09:43 AM

Like mother, like daughter.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Aug 24 - 02:13 PM

Up to the top of the queue before you disappear.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Aug 24 - 02:59 PM

MOAB has a tough time competing with the realtime BS going on in our political landscape. She's feeling a bit abandoned.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Aug 24 - 09:09 PM

MOM MOAB FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Sep 24 - 02:11 PM

Another boost upward for Moab's daughter.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Sep 24 - 03:08 PM

For president?
I guess you could do worse than
a president who crashes periodically.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Sep 24 - 10:57 AM

Mom's kid Amos Jessup for President!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Sep 24 - 04:13 PM

I'm surprised there isn't any BS over here from
the presidential debates ...

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Sep 24 - 03:38 PM

There must be a witty post one could put on this thread about
the eating of dogs and cats (see: second presidential debate),
but I can't come up with it myself for some reason.
I suppose because I don't think it's all that funny.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 17 Sep 24 - 07:12 PM

It's been a long time since any BS from Donuel appeared here.
At least Rapparee is still at large.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Sep 24 - 01:25 PM

Yes, I am still around. Yesterday I gave a class (Life-Long Learning sort of thing) entitled something like "Riverboats, Steamboats, and the Growth of America." It went okay, and I even got applause because I didn't sing anything. I went on for 90 minutes, and talked to about 60 people if you count the Zoomers.

We (oops, slipped into the First Person Imperial) I may do another class in the Spring on Printing and the Reformation.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Sep 24 - 01:41 PM

Good job! Did this involve actually going to the river or getting onto a boat? MOM would love that!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Sep 24 - 04:36 PM

Librarians rule!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Sep 24 - 08:37 PM

The river that flows here is the Mighty and Powerful Portneuf, which sometimes carries enough water to float a stick (the story that a betrayed young maiden decided to throw herself from a bridge and end it all but only sprained her ankle when she landed is a folktale). So no, we didn’t even visit Mink Creek or Pocatello Creek.

I, however, grew up on the banks and water of the Upper River and have steamboated from St. Paul to Nawlins, as well as being personally involved with the Hudson, Potomac, Columbia, Tehana, Missouri, Illinois, Ohio, Tennessee, Tombigbee, Yazoo, intercostal waterway, St. Lawrence River and Seaway, and other such waters.

Mostly it was putting a bunch of stuff together in a way that made it interesting.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 23 Sep 24 - 08:05 PM

I have a secret about doing this sort of thing. I figure that if it's interesting to me it's probably interesting to others. So I can use presenting a class as a reason to research something and buy books about it. Like a few years ago when I did a class on "Pandemics Of The Past" for this sort of thing. COVID was going on and there was all sorts of talk about whether or not it was real, if it was dangerous, and if so what did people do about such things as plagues in times gone by. I became interested and did some research and put together a presentation on past epidemics. Most of the audience was by Zoom but it seemed to be well received.

I got a question about the title of one, "The Recent Crime Wave in Idaho, 1840 to 1910" but I answered that it's just a nanosecond ago in geologic time. AND I got to look up the crooks, and there were a lot of them.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 24 Sep 24 - 11:15 AM

> the story that a betrayed young maiden decided to
> throw herself from a bridge and end it all, but only
> sprained her ankle when she landed, is a folktale

Was she called Agnes?

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Sep 24 - 10:15 AM

No, not Agnes. Her name was Clementine and her daddy was a miner and she raised ducklings to help with the family bills.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 27 Sep 24 - 11:17 AM

Apologies, Rap: my thoughts had flown to the gnarly-county part of Carpe Jugulum.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 27 Sep 24 - 11:34 AM

Oh, and our local river occasionally has enough water to float a stick, but we wouldn't be able to tell the stick from the sewage by colour. It's even worse than the Ankh, especially in high summer.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Sep 24 - 06:09 PM

Believe it or don’t, but our drinking water is pumped from the aquifer. It is minimally treated for nitrates (farming and ranching country), examined and treated for waterborne pathogens, and pumped to the city. Very little treatment overall. The mountains act as a natural filter as the stuff soaks to the aquifer.

On the other hand, slurping down some from a creek up in the hills will almost certainly guarantee you a case of giardiasis or worse.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Sep 24 - 07:42 PM

Mom! Tell her to get up there and stay up there!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Oct 24 - 01:41 PM

Mom! Just what did I tell you?!

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Oct 24 - 11:36 AM

Let's get you upstairs before Rapparee sees you down here.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Oct 24 - 04:19 PM

A dispatch from the Mudcat Tavern for the Bewildered links to
a story from the Scottish Highlands that a herd of special cattle
is to be located close to Loch Ness.

Maybe the Loch Ness Monster will come out and devour them.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Oct 24 - 08:41 PM

Even Nessie can't digest all that hair on Highland cattle.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Oct 24 - 02:58 PM

So Nessie could spit out the hairball -- it would be a large hairball. Like a cat.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 16 Oct 24 - 06:32 PM

Up again to the top.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Oct 24 - 06:48 PM

AI has done interesting things portraying Nessie, but she will never be caught. Gluon will look to that.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Oct 24 - 01:56 PM

Let's get you up to the top of the queue
before Rapparee catches you downstairs.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Oct 24 - 12:43 PM

Mom’s always been an “Upstairs Girl.”

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Oct 24 - 06:25 PM

ANother bump to the top of the queue.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 26 Oct 24 - 05:53 PM

Mom, I know you like to chat and drink with the customers in the parlor, but all who know you will ask for you.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Oct 24 - 11:15 AM

Gravity is still not quantized. We found its waves, but its particle is not found. Gluons, the massless particles with a 1 spin, are responsible for the strong force but are busted as possible gravitons.
Gluons bind quarks together as well as other things. However, quarks only exist as pairs and never stand alone. There are 8 versions/configurations of quarks. When we try to pry quarks apart, the more energy applied only produces more new pairs of quarks. E=MC2 is at work making mass out of energy.
Where would abundant energy make more quarks like the sorcerer's apprentice made more mops and buckets? - Inside black holes. The only thing stopping that process would be the total stoppage of time at a singularity. On the other side of the stoppage of time is the conversion of quarks into the fabric of new space energy. It will never be seen or known but the unseen universe may have been quarks in their previous life.

So Rap, there is an individual gluon but quarks only exist as twins because of a gluon.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Oct 24 - 12:17 PM

Look who's back, stranger! Good to see you again.

MOM is going to throw a party out on the porch. Rap is bringing the booze, but he'd better leave the guns at the Legion Hovel. You remember what happened the last time . . . with target practice at acorns still in the tree it is just too hard to judge who is winning.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Oct 24 - 08:01 AM

I'm a good shot with homemade blowguns but not with lead and black powder.

I've been time traveling at 24 hours per Earth day but at 12 times the normal event speed. Events are still accelerating.

Here is a picture of STEVE, https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2410/SteveFrance_leroux_2160.jpg

: Sometimes a river of hot gas flows over your head. In this case the river created a Strong Thermal Emission Velocity Enhancement (STEVE) that glowed bright red, white, and pink. Details of how STEVEs work remain a topic of research, but recent evidence holds that their glow results from a fast-moving river of hot ions flowing over a hundred kilometers up in the Earth's atmosphere: the ionosphere. The more expansive dull red glow might be related to the flowing STEVE, but alternatively might be a Stable Auroral Red (SAR) arc, a more general heat-related glow. The featured picture, taken earlier this month in Côte d'Opale, France, is a wide-angle digital composite made as the STEVE arc formed nearly overhead. Although the apparition lasted only a few minutes, this was long enough for the quick-thinking astrophotographer to get in the picture -- can you find him?

My intent has always been to expand our radius of science wonder and discovery

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Oct 24 - 08:14 PM

Excuse me, but I have seen that particular event many times. Gluon gets tired of humping my leg or doing something and decides to take off, leaving that particular sort of thing behind instead of a trail of yellow snow, etc.

In fact, Gluon just left here a few moments ago. At least, it was just a few moments ago for me. I measure duration but I'm unsure just how or what if anything Gluon uses to measure duration. That, of course, presumes that "duration" has meaning. And that begs the question of whether "meaning" has meaning.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Oct 24 - 02:20 PM

Semantics aside, I have discovered why black holes do have white holes.
What exits as white holes is newly created space from mass transformed by singularity forces. We just don't see space.

btw inventing new forces out of thin air like dark energy or dark matter is where science is fudging our knowledge today. What's next dark donut theory?   mmm chocolate.

I learned about the double slit experiment and the collapse of the wave function in 7th grade. I do not understand quantum mechanics any better today except that the mathematical perfection of quantum mechanics is no defense for it being true, complete or fundamental law. It can simply be wrong for the same reasons that the Ptolemic Aritototelian celestial spheres seemed correct with the perfect measurements it provided. Is consciousness involved?, probably not but if I knew I would have united physics and won a Nobel Prize by now.

Don't forget to sharpen your hiking sticks.

Subject: RE: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 3
From: Donuel
Date: 31 Oct 24 - 08:25 PM

I've seen a cigar shape travel from horizon to horizon in less than 3 seconds, a flying triangular UFO, and another that had a sound that was felt in my bones. I've seen objects pass right through brick walls and phenomena that are beyond human physics explanation. I conclude there is a physics that we are missing entirely. Perhaps it is true that it is beyond what we can understand but we could sure as hell use it anyway. We all only know things from our own perspective. I don't think my perspective is weird but this universe is definitively on the strange side with randomness.