BS: Palin sips tea tonight

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Mar 10 - 09:42 PM

The religious backing she receives is important, John, and pretending otherwise is folly, in my opinion.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Mar 10 - 10:34 PM

I agree that religion is important among her supporters. One must also recognise that in a small puddle such as her corner of Alaska, membership in the church that is popular locally is desirable.
As Palin enters a larger stage, she undoubtedly will broaden her stance.

Remember that Obama had to distance himself from the views of the pastor of a church he attended, and modify his stance.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Mar 10 - 10:52 PM

Q, I'm not talking about her being religious or having supporters who are religious. I'm talking about a religious movement with a political agenda that has been grooming her for political office. Those are two very different things. The first I have no problem with. The second is, in my opinion, very dangerous.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Mar 10 - 10:53 PM

I should mention that the agenda of this movement is the establishment of a theocracy in the US.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 06:39 AM

"I'm not talking about her being religious or having supporters who are religious. I'm talking about a religious movement with a political agenda that has been grooming her for political office. Those are two very different things. The first I have no problem with. The second is, in my opinion, very dangerous"

Like Obama was not carefully groomed for a political agenda??????

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 07:17 AM

He certainly wasn't groomed for a political agenda by a religious group that wants to establish a theocracy in the US to replace our democratic form of government. Which is the problem I have with Palin. Because that's what she's being groomed for.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 07:33 AM

He was groomed to establish a more sinister take over than that.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 07:35 AM

Which take over would that be, Riginslinger?

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 03:36 PM

The theocratic push seems to be coming mostly from Texas. I don't see Palin as central to it although she has espoused some of its ideas.

The idea is to enshrine the idea of the U. S. as a 'Christian' nation in the Constitution and the law.

Obama groomed for a sinister takeover? Well, possibly to aid a Daly takeover nationally, but we have had other political machines come and go. Nothing sinister, just business as usual.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 04:18 PM

You may not have seen it, Q, but she's been getting help in her rise to power from members of that movement for years. Personally, I don't think she would have gotten as far as she has without their assistance.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 04:20 PM

"Which take over would that be, Riginslinger?"


             The George Soros, David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel take over.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 05:50 PM

I don't see how what Obama's doing is any more sinister. One is secular corporatocracy, and the other is theocratic corporatocracy. I think, if I have to choose between the two (and apparently, I do), I definitely choose the secular corporatocracy.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 05:53 PM

Sarah's a big fan of socialized health care (just not for those in the US who really need it)

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 06:10 PM

She sure finds unique ways to stay in the news.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 07:05 PM

LOL Yeah.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 09:41 PM

Sarah's speech in Calgary gave Albertans pretty much what they wanted to hear. She praised the energy policy and the development of Canadian petroleum resources, and called for small government with low expenditures, low taxes and free markets.

"What she really pushed at the BMO Centre (Bank of Montreal Building auditorium) was a message of energy development, competition, smaller government- and her doubts that climate change science was a settled thing.
"We've got to become more energy independent," she said.
"Her concern, Palin said, is waiting around for unfriendly regimes to develop their resources. Relying on those nations puts the United States in a less safe and less prosperous position, Palin said.
......
"Lauding Canada's approach to the environment, Palin said this country has sought to balance environmental progress with economic concerns."

She criticized the mainstream media. She mentioned the false reporting of her statements, and the press taking remarks in parody or comedy routines as her own- one she mentioned was the one which credited her with saying she could look out her window and see Russia- this one was from a comedy routine and was not said by her.

"Her low tax, small government assertions went down well with a Calgary audience that appeared sympathetic to her vision.
"The massive debt the United States has incurred is "immoral," Palin said, as it will be left for today's children to eventually pick up the bill.
"In the audience were both Calgary business leaders and politicians."
.............. Tory Lee Richardson, the Calgary Centre MP (member of Parliament) said "Palin drew an audience that was receptive to her message.
"I thought it was impressive," he said.
Another in the audience was Gary Holden, CEO of ENMAX (supplier of gas to Calgary, etc.). "He said Palin was someone of high principle whose conservative views went down well here."
Holden also remarked on her championing of the Alaska pipeline, which he views as competition to Alberta.

Richard Cuthbertson, Calgary Herald article, March 7, 2010.

(Palin did not mention religion in her talk)

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 10:07 PM

Sounds like she would be a perfect fit for Alberta. Please accept her as our gift.

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 10:40 PM

I don't think conservative middle America is ready to give her up.
I don't see her as top candidate in 2012, but she is garnering support from the business community as well as small town and rural America.

Your gift? Our current premier in Alberta is even more conservative- she is about on a par with the Prime Minister of Canada.
In Canadian politics, she would be one in the crowd (prettier, though).

Subject: RE: BS: Palin sips tea tonight
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Mar 10 - 10:55 PM

You couldn't use the eye candy during those long winters?