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BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please

Sorcha 21 Nov 03 - 11:06 AM
wysiwyg 21 Nov 03 - 11:22 AM
GUEST,MMario 21 Nov 03 - 11:30 AM
jeffp 21 Nov 03 - 11:39 AM
Sorcha 21 Nov 03 - 11:41 AM
Stilly River Sage 21 Nov 03 - 11:51 AM
GUEST,MMario 21 Nov 03 - 11:54 AM
Sorcha 21 Nov 03 - 11:54 AM
GUEST,MMario 21 Nov 03 - 11:56 AM
open mike 21 Nov 03 - 12:48 PM
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Subject: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 11:06 AM

Hi, all! Mr. Sorcha is a DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) instructor by way of his police job....the 5th year class is saving pull tabs from soda, beer, etc. cans to give to the Children's Hospital in Denver. The classes have a contest to see who can collect the most. Somehow, I'm not really sure, the hospital can cash in the tabs for care, or something. I thought it would be neat if we could collect tabs from all over the world and give them to his class and help them win the contest.

If you are interested in saving tabs and mailing them to me, PM me and I'll send you my address. Thanks!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 11:22 AM

If it's tabs innit a music thread?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 11:30 AM

Sorcha - what kind of pull tabs? They used to have ones that actually came off - but I haven't seen one in YEARS! Or is it just the little rocker levers they save now? cause the tab goes down into the can...


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: jeffp
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 11:39 AM

Hate to be a wet blanket, but is your husband sure this is real? The reason I ask is that this sounds very much like an urban legend.

This link to Snopes will explain my skepticism. Also, I went to the Children's Hospital of Denver's web site and it makes no mention whatsoever of any sort of pull tab collection scheme.

He might want to check further. I hope it's legit, but probably worth investigation.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 11:41 AM

Well, the teacher has assured me it is, and even if it isn't, the kids have fun with the contest. It's not like it's going to hurt anybody. MMario, just the regular ones on cans--you do have to rock them back and forth to get them to come off....


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 11:51 AM

My kids have been collecting those for years. I think McDonald's has something they do in this area, they redeem them for cash. I've never seen it happen, but places like the daycare where my children used to stay always collected them. There are still a few sandwich baggies with the tabs around here. As suggested, it's the "rocker" thingie that pushes open the can (remember how people used to either litter the old pull tabs or drop them into the can? I'm sure more than a few people hurt themselves swallowing those things, and even more people complained about the litter).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 11:54 AM

yeah - but they made fantastic "chain mail" *grin*

there are a number of different programs - the collection centers evidnlty recycle the aluminium. Some of the programs kick back a percentage to the collectors - some don't. all seem to be worthwhile programs that I've found.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Sorcha
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 11:54 AM

Tell you what, I'll talk to the school today and get all the correct info......


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 11:56 AM

meanwhile I'm grabbing tabs from all the cans here at work....*grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: open mike
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 12:48 PM

if you turn them around they snap off.
i have been saving red ones for a breast cancer charity.
i remember hearing that those tabs or rings one
were used to buy time on a kidney dialysis machine..
maybe some prgram connected with the fact that
too much beer damages kidneys--i can';t thienk of the word
i a can think of is psoriasis--but i know that's not it..
so maybe some brewery thought of a way to try to help
by encouraging people to drink more beer so they could
save more tops--oh yes it is Cirrhosis...or somat?
psoraisis (sp?) is outside, cirosis (sp) is inside


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 02:51 PM

There are NO charities that collect pull tabs... And if they did, there's nothing they can do with them after they're collected...

But I know ALL kinds of people who WILL pay for them, to make stuff like
-THIS-

They'll pay by the link, or by the pound...

If anyone is serious, I'll ask what the going rate is... you folks can sell them, and use the MONEY for fund raising...


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:01 PM

Clinton - if NO chaity collects - then how come Ronald McDonald house executives have issued statements about the progress of their collections?

They collect and sell it as scrap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:32 PM

Can you source that MMario? (Cause if I AM wrong, I'll start saving them for charity again...)

Cause I went looking last year sometime, when my wife came home from work and said her office was collecting them... All I found were debunkers...

The cost of storing and shipping a pull-tab is twice what the alluminum in the pull tab is worth... So the idea of selling them for scrap makes very little sense (Cents?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:37 PM

The snopes quote on Ronald McDonald House...

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Seeing as how folks were bound and determined to collect pull-tabs for charity, in 1987 McDonald's found it a good idea to get into the act. Their Pop Tab Collection program is a response to pull tab mania, and although its web presence perpetuates the myth that the tabs are made of a purer form of aluminium than the rest of the can, it at least provides folks with a place to dump the tabs they've been hoarding over the years in the belief they could use them to purchase dialysis time for an ailing child. Tabs dropped off at various McDonald's are taken to a local recycling company, and the money made from selling them for their scrap value is given to the local Ronald McDonald House to help defray operating costs.

(Ronald McDonald houses are inexpensive family lodgings located near hospitals. Families of sick children stay there so as to be close to their hospitalized child. Typically, it costs the house $40 a night a room to operate and families are asked to make a donation of $10 a night when they stay. The shortfall is made up through various charitable endeavors, of which the pull-tab collection and recycling program is but one.)

It needs be stressed yet again that pull tabs are far from "found money" — even the Ronald McDonald House gets only 40 cents a pound for them (or $474 per million tabs, according to their web page). You'd still do far more good organizing a local soda can recycling program and donating the proceeds of same to Ronald McDonald House (or any other charity).
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So, honestly sorcha... collect 'em, and the folks -I- know will buy 'em off ya!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:40 PM

McDonald's website


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: jeffp
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:41 PM

Clinton, check the link I posted above. Down near the bottom it explains how McDonalds will recycle pull tabs (and any aluminum). It is, however, much more efficient to recycle the entire can.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: jeffp
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:41 PM

I see you already got there while I was posting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:43 PM

Wow... we're good at cross posting eh! LOL

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:43 PM

I think it works to some extent because it's something people can do - and when there are local centers you can drop your stuff off at rather then shipping them out, etc.

Like the pepsi proof of purchase stuff - If I had donated the cost of mailing the P.o.P. stuff to the school rather then sending them the items - the school may have been monatarily ahead of the game - but...


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:44 PM

except you don't get the deposit if you send them the can...


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:47 PM

No... but they would...

and well, 400 million tabs to generate a measly 300 thousand bucks???

I think I'll stay sided with Snopes on this one...


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 06:44 PM

Of course McDonald's is perfectly pleased to sell you a Happy Meal when you come in with the little darling clutching a baggie fill of tabs, and no doubt soccer mama must have her Big Mac and Diet Coke as long as they're visiting, eh? And after all there is the playground handy, maybe the next birthday party gets booked.... Multiply that by all the good little tab-collectors and their families...

The PR for doing good with RMcD House is the point, not the actual dollars netted. It's a promotion-- part of a marketing plan.

~S, perhaps a tad cynical after running a do-good nonprofit!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 04:36 PM

OK, I checked with the school, and yes, they did it last year and it was legit, but decided not to do it this year, so no need to send me anymore. Clinton, who did you say these people were that buy them?? (Other than my local reclclers.....grin) I don't really have a LOT, but hate to just dump them, and I'm going to keep pulling mine off because I find it easier to drink out of the can that way.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 05:13 PM

The folks like me who make chainmaille jewellery and outfits can use 'em to make some pretty sweet 'club' wear for the dance-club-&-E crowd...

Check the link above that I provided...

(Good to see you up and about Sorch!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 06:13 PM

Now, if folks just sent a dollareach to the Childrens' Hospital instead of screwing around with the pull-tab scam....


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Cluin
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 07:33 PM

Lisa needs braces!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 07:40 PM

Dental Plan!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Cluin
Date: 01 Dec 03 - 07:45 PM

Lisa needs braces!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 02 Dec 03 - 05:22 AM

There have been quite a few hoaxes about collecting ring-pulls, haven't there? I can't see what the benefit is, except the kids could hae a lot of fun (which is fine with me) ad the drink manufacturers can sell more cans (which is fine with them). If it's scrap aluminium you're after, collect the cans!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: GUEST,Ted
Date: 10 May 04 - 11:19 PM

this is real, the tabs of the cans have more metal than all of the can itself. My local recycling center (Atlanta, GA) gives $100 for a gallon


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 May 04 - 11:21 AM

"the tabs of the cans have more metal than all of the can itself"

Another one duped by the BS...

thanks for coming out ted....


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Cluin
Date: 11 May 04 - 01:57 PM

"the tabs of the cans have more metal than all of the can itself"

Yeah, and a torn-off Levi's red tab can be redemmed at your local Wal-Mart for a new pair of jeans.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:06 PM

Well, dude... you'll recall that Levi's USED to have a life-time warrenty... Perhaps you recall me getting pairs and pairs of them in the mail...

They no longer have that policy...


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Cluin
Date: 11 May 04 - 02:13 PM

You broke `em, eh?

Clinton Hammond ruins something else for the rest of us!    ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 May 04 - 03:28 PM

Wait till ya see what I've done to all the "Musicians Drink And Eat As Much As They Want For Free" gigs around here!

:-P~~~~~~~


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Cluin
Date: 12 May 04 - 12:19 AM

Workin' on that one myself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 12 May 04 - 12:42 AM

Unfornately, Sorcha has spawned this clap-trap into multiple threads....not all of which have been beheaded in the past six months.



It is particularyly saddening...that an officer of the law ....is repeatedly dragged through the slurry-slime-of-speculation by this better half.



This has been adressed in in similar treads:


Cut and paste text deleted by Mudelf. Please follow the link provided by Gargoyle below to read the article detailing how the myth started and what the facts are regarding the collecting of tabs

http://www.snopes.com/business/redeem/pulltabs.asp

A MudCatter who should know better...and had access to current sources Is THROWING YOU a line of pure ...huey!!!!!



Sincerely,

Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Cluin
Date: 12 May 04 - 04:34 PM

Aw, garg, a link to the Snopes article would have sufficed; you didn't have to paste the whole thing.

As a matter of fact, it WAS linked to in an above post by jeffp a while back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 May 04 - 05:19 PM

Ya... but yer assuming Garg can even read mate...

That's giving it way too much credit


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Subject: RE: BS: Sorcha Needs Pull Tabs, Please
From: Coyote Breath
Date: 12 May 04 - 06:40 PM

Well doggone Sorcha, whatcha done with them other ones I sent?

Hey come up to the Sylvan Lake lodge in Custer State Park this summer and I'll give you some more, in person. Or if I can get away for a day I'll come down there.

CB


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